Morality is not determined by the church you attend nor the faith you embrace. It is determined by the quality of your character and the positive impact you have on those you meet along your journey
Hey Gryphen,I read you all the time, and it's really rare that I disagree with you. You could've supported the non religious socialist guy, and it wouldn't have surprised me one bit. I supported him. And yesterday when I pulled up the Bernie sign and replaced it with my Hillary sign, I felt proud that I was now supporting our first female prez. We Dems really couldn't lose either way. Not all the Bernie folks were jerks, and I promise you, this whole unity thing is BS. We'll be there for HRC this Fall with our cash, our voices and our votes.Be well my friend,Betsy
now you're talkin berniebros
BernieBros are more like people paid by Drumpf to confuse people like Gryphen.
I'm with Betsy. My whole family supported Bernie, and among us are ADHD, austisic, nonbinary gendered, engineers, scientists, and professional creatives. I love your blog, but I don't enjoy the gloating or demonization of the Bernie supporters that just wanted to see him through the primary. Just like you, we love this country and want a future that gives a chance back to the lower and middle incomes. We long for the day when the venom of bigotry and racism has worked its way out of our national systems. We want a future where America learns from her mistakes when it comes to toppling or supporting foreign governments that become breeding grounds for violence and tyranny. You can count on us to do the right thing, but please lay off the needling. (I still read your blog first thing every morning - alway hoping for that baby bombshell to go off!) Thanks for your hard work and having the courage to face the potential for a mysterious fire. :)
Agree with 8:18 AM anonymous.
To be clear, a good portion of Bernie supporters used viciousness and deceitfulness against Hillary in their support of Bernie.
9:06, the same statement could be made about HRC supporters. Shall we climb into the sandbox and cry, "You started it!"? Time to mend our fences and work towards party unity-in both camps.Q
As did some Hillary supporters against Sanders and his supporters. Time to move on, even if your feelings are bruised and regardless of who you supported. Q
I was called a "Democratic whore" due to my support for Hillary, but I'm ready for unity, too. Thank you, Bernie followers who are voting for HRC. Let's work together to stop Trump. Bernie himself will say the same soon.
Goid for the guy in the photograph. Gryphen, have the decency to blur out his license plate. There are many Trump brownshirts reading this blog.
Thanks for kindness, folks. I've been reading this blog since 2008, and I almost feel like I know Gryphen. Some of my favorite posts (other than the obvious Sarah smackdowns), are those in which he shares some of his life's struggles. He's helped me deal with my atheism, with understanding my beautiful gay daughter and sometimes, he's just helped me get through a shitty day. I almost never post comments, though, because while I'm sure Gryphen wouldn't judge me, I'm a little afraid others will in a hostile way. I'm afraid someone will think I'm a troll or a Palin plant or just be mean, and I really don't need that in my life. I bet if we all met in person, we'd be really funny and have a blast, but some days the comment section here is a scary place. Or maybe I'm just a 🐓. Take care peeps. Betsy
I imagine the rump is burning.
I read a conspiracy theory online. A few thousand criminals are staging a bundy takeover of America. After all, trump spent millions to pull it off. All the bribes, threats, and cost. Such a ugly, thin skinned, tiny fingers bully must GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT. YOUR FIRED DONALD J TRUMP GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT. You are a disgusting human.
dumpster needs to get the hell off the stage
Pay to play with Hillary...http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-donor-sensitive-intelligence-board/story?id=39710624
I drive a little gas-sipping Mini Cooper as well as a RedneckMobile: Ford F250 Super Duty 4WD.Cooper is clean with no bumper stickers. The truck is another matter -- it's emblazoned with:-- Vietnam Veteran-- US Army Retired-- Remington-- SigSauer-- Spiritual people inspire me; religious people frighten me-- Feel the Bern-- I'm with Hillary-- Proud Democrat-- a sticker indicating I'm an EMT-- I Stand With Planned ParenthoodSo, early this morning, I scraped off the Bernie sticker and sent Hillary more money.I started to add a bumper sticker that has a pic of Donald Trump with the caption: "Does this ass make my truck look fat?" Sweet Thing said there will NEVER be a pic of Donald Trump anywhere on our property -- guess that seals that.
Are you really helping? Gloating ain't pretty. I am a Hillary fan.
Totally agree! The gloating is kind of getting old. I support Hillary, but not everyone who wanted Bernie to win is a foaming-at-the-mouth lunatic who is unable to accept reality...Despite what too many people like to suggest. Most of them simply preferred another liberal candidate who they thought was more in line with their views. What is so terrible about that? So they were excited and passionate about their candidate? I think that's great. That kind of excitement and passion is what swept Obama into office in 2008. Laughing and making fun of them isn't going to be what makes them excited to turn out for Hillary in November I hope the Bernie supporters realize that there's a lot of Hillary supporters that respect and appreciate you and Bernie. He ran a hell of a campaign. From polling at 5% to becoming damn close to being the nominee. It's impressive. I hope Hillary integrates as much of Bernie's ideas into her platform as possible and I hope his supporters come out and vote for Hillary. Her platform is a million times closer to Bernie's than Donald is and we absolutely can't let Trump win. I don't think our country would survive a Trump presidency
@5.23I agree with everything you have said. I posted under anon because I have been told numerous times to butt out of American politics.I have been critical of Bernie and written a few posts about it.In the end, we want was is good for the USA and the rest of the world. It is a time for the left to unite.
Agree. If Bernie, Hillary, and Obama can come together with dignity, so should we who admire any one of them.It's the adult thing to do, the only thing to do, considering the alternative. Let's not be stupid. They can do it, we can do it.Mildred
Never butt out of American politics, Irishgirl! Politics of one country effect the world. And it's too small of a planet for any one country to think they can isolate themselves from the rest.Mildred
Come on Jesse. As Joe Biden said, "'We should be a little graceful'.
As a Sanders supporter who will vote for Clinton, I agree with the commenters who are asking you to stop with the antagonistic anti-Bernie rhetoric. It does more harm than good and this isn't a football game where you are goading the opposing team. And, speaking for myself, I find myself clicking on, reading and commenting here less and less, because of the constant barrage.Q
How do you think we felt about Bernie supporters' nastiness towards Hillary? They earned our wrath.
9:09, I cannot speak for anyone but myself and am not responsible for the conduct of anyone else.If you choose to give ALL Sander's supporters your wrath, not only are you being grossly unfair, but you are also being childish. We must ALL unite behind our nominee for the good of our country.Q
Irishgirl, thank you for caring about US politics. Please always weigh in.
9:09 you sound like the ignoramuses that hate all Muslims because of 9/11. Just stop. If you don't like Bernie, or Hillary, but want what's best for the country, get out and vote. But for pete's sake stop the fighting. There is no resolve at this point.Mildred
5:32 Gryphen is not the same nice guy I liked immensely when I first found this blog. He comes across as mean and douchey, but I'm addicted to IM tried to quit the habit but it's hard.
2:32 - have you gone into treatment or therapy yet for internet addiction and loneliness?
This is what I would expect from A Trump fan, crass, no class and beneath contempt.
I will take my Bernie yard sign down after the convention takes place. Sen. Sanders ran on individual's contributions; I don't see a problem with continuing to show support for the ideas in his platform. I'm not a radical or a millenial, just someone who thinks this country has been on the wrong track for a long time.I plan on supporting Hillary after the convention (though I wish Bill Clinton wasn't part of the deal). Very tired of the anti-Bernie shaming.
... very, very tired of being made to feel like a stupid idiot...I guess there's no room for the Socialists in the discussions on this blog when the blog owner is relentlessly opting for war and fracking as evidenced by his posts about Hillary.Did Bernie not keep Hillary to the left? Did Bernie not mobilize a generation? I give the man credit rather than throw rocks at him.
7:44 nobody invited you here. If you don't like it, tough. Quit complaining. our contribution to this blog is a negative.
That is a picture of me.
I'm a Bernie supporter, and will NOT cover up my B sticker with an H. Bernie was the original progressive, and if it wasn't for him, Hillary would still be wavering back and forth on her support for Husband Bill's NAFTA evil twin TPP. Have you ever seen an election where the republican is talking like a democrat on an issue. Listen to Trump on Trade. He may be able to win quite a few democrats on that issue.
typical asswide Bernie bro 8:43FEAR Hillary!
Yet Bernie's own staff is trying to get hired by Hillary. They are certainly not moving to Trump. People like Roseanne are, though.
Bernie was the original progressive? That's the funniest thing I've heatd all day as well as the mist foolish.
Do you really need to keep being an asshole about this Gryphen? Is it really so wrong that Bernie has supporters? Why does that just ruin your oatmeal every morning. Why does the fact that some people (including yourself until just recently) are having a difficult time warming up to Hillary really piss you off? Get off your high horse and post something positive for once instead of this constant Bernie bashing. We get it. Taking all these victory laps for little more than a Republican in a pant suit, that you admit leaves a bad taste in your mouth every fucking day is getting old. You had absolutely NOTHING to do with her nomination, in fact she lost Alaska by a landslide! Quit acting like you discovered her, built her up, gave her cred and won her the nomination. Your arrogance is appalling
This is not about Bernie fool.
I voted for Bernie, but come November will vote for Hillary.
Thank you! Much appreciated!
Please quit smashing my face in cake, Jesse. It was abhorrent when the Paymes did it to Piper, and it's insulting when you do it to the people who lean more to the left than your precious Queen.
put your manpants on
I think G's been covering Sarah Palin for so long he's starting to act like her. Enough with the high school mean girl shit, already. No one on the losing side of a campaign they've felt passionate about for the better part of a year, wants to have their nose rubbed in it.We've got a lot of work to do between now and November and we need everybody on board. And I do mean EVERYBODY.
Damn there are a lot of crybabies on this thread. Look it is not my job to wipe your noses for you and soothe your hurt little feelings. My job is to talk about the facts and to keep our attention focused on the reality we are facing and leave the fantasies to others. If you cannot handle that then you have no business even being here.
Whoa, Gryphen, doubling down on your arrogance is not pretty. Why don't you just give some credit to Bernie. He DOES deserve it. I'm a long time reader here, too and I'm trying so hard to understand your position on Bernie. It's not about being a crybaby and it's not about hurt feelings, it's about being generous of heart and recognizing the contribution that Bernie's campaign has made to this country, bringing tons of young people into politics and pushing the conversation left towards progressive ideas that have not had the kind of exposure they are now enjoying in the minds of millions. I really encourage you to take a look at how power players in the Dem party are being gracious, patient and respectful about Bernie finishing his campaign. You could be the same. I know you could. That you are choosing to be a bit immature and defensive is perplexing. And then striking out at your readers who are calling you out for your bad taste is really shocking.Hillary has the nom. Bernie knows it. The country knows it. Let him be.
Interestingly, one of the top Democratic "grassroots experts" on social media just said the same thing. I get that Bernie supporters who are Democrats and altruistic independents will now vote for HRC, and that is much appreciated. But there was a lot of unnecessary vitriol from Bernie supporters--a lot. There was a story in the LA Times about how many women for HRC were afraid to show it due to fear for their safety or social repercussions, due to the toxicity of many of his vociferous supporters. They were even afraid to tell pollsters of their support for her. They did not have yard signs or bumper stickers. But they showed up to vote.
I will gladly ignore him forever once he stops trying to convince his followers that he still has a shot at the nomination, which is what he did in a speech just yesterday in D.C.
>>My job is to talk about the factsWell, then stick to facts, and not your personal animosity for Bernie. You aren't doing anyone any good by continuing this odd vendetta against Bernie. You are not allowing a process to occur that always happens at the end of a primary. Listen to your president who spoke it so well. You are not doing your job, you are venting your personal feelings of frustration and displaying such impatience. Chill, G. It's all gonna be over on Tuesday.
Who is going to wipe your nose for you if Hillary is forced to drop out?
9:25 - keep dreaming!
Damn Gryphen, that stung! I don't need you or anyone else to wipe my nose or soothe my feelings.Did you shrink your "roomy" pj's? Cause something has you irritable.Q
You speak often about the greatness of President Obama and Vice President Biden. Why have you not attacked the two of them for asking for some grace towards Bernie? For the record, acting like a gloating little snot is not "talking about the facts"...it's acting like a gloating little snot. (I say this as a fervent die-hard Hillary supporter) And it's pretty ironic that it's coming from somebody who regularly points out the petty vindictiveness of the Palin family
I applaud you, 11:09!Q
"In my opinion the Bernie Sanders supporters should have seen the writing on the wall months ago, and seen through Bernie's bullshit much much earlier. If you failed to do that it is certainly not my job to make you feel better about your stupidity, it is my job to rub your nose in it so you do not do anything that ignorant again."Perhaps the writing on the wall was a warning that our two party system has become impossibly toxic. Citizens United allowed the Kochs and their Tea Party minions to paralyze and poison the US government. Bernie brought many important progressive issues to the forefront of the primary campaigns. The response by an army of Americans offering one small donation at a time was just as heartening as it was when Barack Obama pulled off such a feat. Bernie's candidacy made Hillary Clinton a much better candidate than if she had been handed the nomination without any challenge.So, please stop with the"rub your nose in it" rhetoric. It sounds like something Sarah Palin would say, and it's not any prettier or more impressive coming from you, Gryphen.
A Bern too far...Here's what one Bernie woman did after Warren's speech:https://twitter.com/amazingbernie/status/741101963920715776
Most of Bernie's paid campaign staffers are now trying to get hired by Hillary, so that's another step towards unity. They are certainly NOT Bernie or bust.
Bernie's top student advisor hired by Hillary: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/clinton-hires-sanders-student-organizer-224166
I stopped coming here regularly once Gryphen became an asshole about Sanders and only check in very occasionally. Stopped by today. Yup - still an asshole.
Have a good summer!
Feel free not to return. I like it when assholes stay off of (or at least don't comment) on the blogs I like to read. Makes the comments easier to digest. Thanks again.
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem voting for Hillary. But the Democrat party really does not get that they are in as much danger of a tea-party-style revolution as the GOP was. What Sanders represents needs to be taken seriously.
Library Mark: first rule - "Democratic Party." Or else it's become the "Republic Party." Get it? #adjectivesfor100Alex
Bernie's last two speeches gave CLEAR indication that, when push comes to shove, he WILL back Clinton over Trump.I guess Gryphen was expecting him to kneel down and kiss her ring or something.Even the freaking Palins have not been the target of this much raw anger on this site.What the hell, Gryph?You. Won.'Sore winners' will not help the Clinton campaign.
Absolutely! Warren said herself Bernie served an amazing purpose in this election. He should be applauded for his passion, his accomplishments, and am excited to see what good he'll do after the convention even when Hillary is the nominee officially. For someone to be so pathetically obsessed with the Palins and their dirt you'd think he'd have some sort of small appreciation for people's excitement for Bernie and his honesty and love for this country.
Won't help his readership, either. He just lost me.
Bad, Bad, Gryphen, forcing all those delegates, superdelegates and people from coast to coast to cast more votes for one nominee over the other one. I can commiserate to a point. One time I voted for this guy named Al Gore who got his popular vote stolen from him. I was spitting tacks wanting a revolution, too.
Don't feed the trolls! It just goes directly to their thighs.