Saturday, June 04, 2016

Over one quarter of donors to Sanders campaign are unemployed.

Courtesy of the LA Times:

“ Bernie Sanders is running on a platform to lift up the have-nots and to improve the system of government we have, so that no one will ever be left behind. ”

"No one will ever be left behind." That quote came from one of Sanders' small dollar donors, and it seems to reflect the point of view that a lot of his supporters have about what he can accomplish as President.

But that is based on fantasy.

President Obama has made improving the jobs market his main focus for the entire seven and a half years he has been in office, and he has by all accounts done an amazing job. But obviously there are still those "left behind."

How in the hell do these Sanders supporters believe that he can accomplish more?

And that is only one of a number of promises that Sanders would have absolutely no way of keeping. 

For fuck's sake he is a politician, not the freaking Wizard of Oz.

If elected he would run into exactly the same road blocks that confronted President Obama, and I would argue even more since working with a self identified socialist would be a death sentence to the career of any conservative, and a number of liberals in purple states as well.

In my opinion these promises by Bernie Sanders are irresponsible and are taking advantage of the politically naive and desperate.

And if a quarter of his donors are unemployed then exactly where is the money they are sending Bernie Sanders coming from?

From the parents of college kids? From unemployment benefits?

In other words is the money being taken from older people, possibly Hillary supporters, under false pretenses? Or is it coming from government funds provided to feed and clothe these individuals which is instead going into the pocket of Bernie and Jane Sanders?

And if these donors are literally giving their last cent for a promise that will simply never come, just how desperate is that making them.

The answer, very desperate: 

Call them Hillary’s home-state haters. 

A group of rabble-rousing Bernie Sanders supporters from New York is headed for the Democratic National Convention next month as hand-picked, at-large delegates -- and they’re threatening to make trouble for Hillary Clinton at the very moment she hopes to make history as the first female nominee of either party and unite Democrats for the coming battle with Donald Trump. Story Continued Below 

The disgruntled Sanders delegation, heading to Philadelphia with deep reservations about Clinton’s brand of center-left pragmatism, serves as a reminder of how contentious the four-day meeting could become, and a warning to Democrats of the importance of bringing Sanders happily into the fold. 

Some 20,000 protesters are reportedly planning anti-Clinton protests outside of the convention hall. But interviews with members of Sanders’ New York delegation reveal that supporters of the Vermont senator are also considering bringing some of those protests inside the Wells Fargo Center itself — raising the prospect of an embarrassing spectacle on prime-time TV. 

So fueled by frustration that the false promises of Bernie Sanders will not materialize these misguided young people are going to lash out at the only political party working to give them what they want.

That is what the Bernie Sanders campaign has wrought, that and nothing more.


  1. Anonymous5:12 PM

    And what do you think these folks want in return for their "donations" to Hillary?
    And these folks for "speeches"?
    And we're not even counting the "donations" to the Clinton Foundation during Hillary's tenure as SoS.
    Those emails she "thought" were deleted will tell us all 'bout that...
    The FBI has ALL the emails and is steady studying those.
    So your point is what,Gryph?

    1. Anonymous5:36 PM

      His point is that he can't bully his daughter into supporting his candidate, so he is taking it out on his readers who are Bernie supporters. It is getting very tiresome.

    2. Anonymous6:04 PM

      Tired? Feel free to leave. Or to start your own blog. See - it's easy to make things work for you - if you are willing to take a little effort. Bye

    3. Anonymous6:09 PM

      But wait, if we have the two older androgynous, post menopausal women on the ticket will the daughter change her mind?


    4. Anonymous6:21 PM

      You're not his reader. You're a troll.

    5. Anonymous6:29 PM

      You are evil @6:09pm. As well as very funny!

    6. Anonymous6:51 PM


    7. Anonymous9:03 PM

      5:36, good one. Agreed.

    8. Anonymous5:48 AM

      4Chan troll alert!!!

    9. Anonymous12:37 PM

      Even with better ideas and the best interests of the United States and its citizens in mind, Democrats always have a tough road to hoe. There's always a democratic constituency that can't be bothered to vote, can't be bothered to show up, and always asks too much. Now we know who they are: Bernie Sanders supporters. You weren't going to vote anyway.

  2. Anonymous5:24 PM

    That is unbelievable! Normally I would say that free college is a good thing for these idiots but they would just be educated idiots.

    BTW, the correct spelling/word is 'ring bearer' you dumb bitch (not ring barrier).

    1. Anonymous5:35 PM

      They're still the people who see through shillary and the bullshit establishment.

    2. Anonymous6:11 PM


      Everyone forgets that we totally rejected Hillary once, in favor of a half-black man that didn't have nearly her political record but who offered some hope and change, which he wasn't really able to fully accomplish, but still, we've said no to Hillary once, and we'll do it again.

      What part of her doesn't understand that a lot of us just really don't ever, ever want to vote for her?

    3. Anonymous6:14 PM

      You're pretty fucking stupid yourself if you can't figure out that 28% is not a majority. If 28% of donors are unemployed then 72% of donors are employed, Einstein.

    4. Anonymous6:31 PM

      So you won't vote for Hillary cause Trump is so vastly superior? You're nuts.

  3. Anonymous5:34 PM

    Well nothing our legislation has done has affected the economy or market. The president holds no power and deserves no credit or blame. The economy never stops changing regardless. While 2010-2013 were rough and things still are rough, more and more people are taking things in their own handsand risking it all to start businesses. I have 8 friends who just opened restaurants in Ny and Chicago. One in LA.

    1. Anonymous5:50 AM

      Poor them, restaurants have the biggest failure rate of any business.

  4. Anonymous5:34 PM

    Where on Earth did you come to the conclusion that the "majority" of Sanders supporters are unemployed?
    "Doners without a job gave more than any other FEILD"
    This also doesn't account for college students and retired people.
    This "study" is incredibly flawed.
    If 28% are unemployed that means that 72% ARE employed, 72% would be the majority.
    Math is hard.

    1. Anonymous6:52 PM

      So is spelling.

    2. Anonymous7:17 PM

      Anonymous5:34 PM

      Yes, math is hard - especially for you. Are you reading impaired, you idiot? Where does anyone say "a majority"? The headline says "over a quarter". Last time I checked, 28% was over 25%.

      That explains a lot about your voting choice.

    3. Anonymous7:51 PM

      If you read down a few comments you'll see that Gryphan changed the headline.

    4. Anonymous7:53 PM

      Gryphan changed the title.
      Try to keep up.

    5. Anonymous8:25 PM

      Don't trash 7:17. Gryphen (with an e) is the one who screwed upbwhich he does in almost every post.

  5. Anonymous5:36 PM

    Well, I for one am retired. ie "not working"

    Ever think of that brainiac?

    As far as where my retirement funds come from it's NOYB but I'm sure you'll conclude that I must sell drugs. That's how full of shit that you are.

    1. Anonymous6:12 PM

      Yep. I am retired and have donated to Sanders campaign several times.

    2. Anonymous6:30 PM're ruining the anti-Bernie circle jerk with your pesky facts!!!

    3. Anonymous8:36 PM

      I'd assume many or most of the students who support Sanders are "unemployed," too.

      Gryphen, you sound like Mitt Romney. Your schtick is getting tired, and you're reaching for anything to attack Sanders. You reveal how little you really know about the electorate and the politicians.

      I'm retired and have donated to Sanders for more than a year. I've stopped now, because I cannot afford it -- but I still give small sums to Duckworth, Feingold, and other state races.

      I receive Social Security, along with a pension richly deserved. I guess I'm part of the 47% reviled by Romney -- and now by you.

  6. Anonymous5:37 PM

    Hilllarys loudmouth supporters are past their prime, jealous of youth and how they want to change the establishment. We need to get away from a two party system. Because hot damn the gop is dead and the democrats are selfish unaccomplished asshats.

    1. Anonymous6:53 PM

      Go rogue!

    2. "Hilllarys loudmouth supporters are past their prime, jealous of youth and how they want to change the establishment."
      What an asinine statement.

    3. Anonymous8:56 AM

      Now go clean the basement before your Mommy kicks you out.

    4. Anonymous12:49 PM

      If the two-party system is so bad why did Bernie run to the Democratic Party? Why didn't he run as an independent? Because he wanted the Machine. But because he can't change the rules he agreed to, he's using idiots to incite trouble. Pathetic.

  7. Anonymous5:39 PM

  8. Anonymous5:44 PM

    It's kind of entertaining to watch anti-Bernie democrats act like monumental hypocrites. Everything you condemn about him you supported when it was Barack running. And Bernie has more life and work experience. (Neither have much.) you spent 7 years bashing the GOP when they said socialism is bad while defending it.

    If you cannot see the duplicity, you need therapy. Or something. I am a proud democrat and am supporting Bernie. Becaus Hillary is a proven scoundrel , a nasty bitch, and the biggest flip flopper in history.

    1. Anonymous6:15 PM

      You just hit the nail on the head. Thanks for writing that.

    2. Anonymous6:22 PM

      That's President Obama, you alleged democrat.

    3. Anonymous6:33 PM

      Exactly. This blog is insanely entertaining though! Watching the mental gymnastics that the Hillary supporters go through to excuse her misdeeds always gives me a good laugh!

    4. Anonymous7:10 PM

      Bernie is no Barack Obama. And you need to come to the realization that just because Sanders is white does not mean he can accomplish what President Obama could not. President Obama accomplished more by the time he was 50 than it would take Sanders two lifetimes to accomplish.

      People like you probably sat out the last two midterms because you were peeved he didn't wave his magic wand and magically fix everything. You handed the senate and house to the republicans.

    5. Anonymous8:20 PM

      I've voted in every single election since I turned 18.
      I've campaigned for local politicians, and for congressional candidates. I've been active in my local womens Democratic Club for 15 years.

      Take your bullshit assumptions and shove them right up your ass.

    6. Anonymous9:09 PM

      "womens Democratic Club," lmfao

    7. Anonymous9:32 PM

      Here's a link to the National Womens Democratic Club.
      Try to get out every now and then.

    8. Anonymous9:53 PM

      9:32 - thank you. I'm going to join!

    9. Anonymous9:55 PM

      @anon 8:20pm
      There is no women's Democratic club and I have been a Democrat who happens to be a women for 40 yrs.
      But Bernie is a do nothing career politician that's big accomplishment is naming 2 post offices( or is it one?)

    10. Anonymous10:09 PM

      I'm not even gonna address your misogynistic bullshit. There are things called diplomacy and realism that Hillary knows a thing or two more than your bro.

    11. Anonymous10:21 PM

      Here's a link to most counties Clubs!!

      @9:55're not too bright, are you?

    12. Anonymous10:50 PM

      Thank you, 10:21!

    13. Anonymous12:50 PM

      Bernie Sanders is no Barack Obama. Good grief

  9. Susan Richards5:47 PM

    Let these whiny Sanders supporters cry all they want. Once Hillary Clinton is elected and continuing the progress that our great President Obama has accomplished they will be outspoken supporters for her 2020 reelection campaign. These little babies need to realize that there actually are adults that are looking out for their futures.

    1. Anonymous6:14 PM

      I am 60 & retired. I don't need you looking out for me.

    2. Anonymous6:38 PM

      What a ridiculously arrogant and erroneous comment.
      Typical Hillary supporter, full of their own bullshit.
      I'm 42, and I'm doing just fine all on my own.
      I don't need the great Hillary swooping in to look out for me. I mean, I'm not a corporation or a Wall Street bank, so she doesn't have any use for me anyway.
      Your candidate is a fraud.

    3. Anonymous7:11 PM

      Anonymous6:14 PM

      Then stop whining

    4. Anonymous7:11 PM

      I am 63, retired, and my IQ is 161.

      I sure as fuck don't need you looking out for me.

    5. Anonymous7:49 PM

      Yep, I so love having had President Obama lead us these nearly completed two terms and look forward to voting for Hillary Clinton as our next POTUS.

      She will demolish the fat, wide-assed Donald Trump who is NOT fit to hold the position of POTUS. He is a proven racist via his own words!

      Remember how the Republicans had polls galore indicating Senator Obama and then President Obama would never be elected POTUS? They were so wrong and had to eat their words! So then they chose to obstruct him in any manner they could throughout his nearly completed second term.

      It was so damned much fun watching President Obama succeed in spite of the jerks! They are really going to hate it when he is named one of the most outstanding POTUS that has served our country! He and VP Biden have done a superb job to which I say 'thank you, kind sirs'!

      And, now they are hollering similar crap about Hillary Clinton even though she is white! They just don't like having another Clinton in the White House, or a strong, government experienced WOMAN being our next POTUS.

      They - REPUBLICANS - just never learn...lie, lie, lie...pick horrible candidates and load the airwaves with baloney poll results and falsehoods about their competition! That has become their common scenarios on national, state and local levels throughout the country!

      Remember the falsehoods that Mitch McConnell has told - especially about President Obama?

      McConnell is NOT a gentlemen even though from the 'southern' State of Kentucky (where I was born too!).

      He's proven himself to be a rich racist (against blacks), just shoveling what he was taught as a boy. Wonder how many slaves his family members owned that came before him? Hope everyone watched the current "Roots" series on TV. It truly was historical and gut wrenching! Some Americans treated blacks horribly as their slaves and it is still occurring in some areas of our country today (other races included!).

      After the Civil War, the black slaves were to be set free by their plantation owners, but the majority were not. They kept them in poverty, working their fields (cotton) and very few were able to get out from under their owners (escape) and make it on their own.

      Good luck Hillary Clinton! You are stronger and smarter than the majority of the Republicans we see, or hear from, on a daily basis! I look forward to giving you my vote in November.

      Mitch McConnell is going to be on one of the Sunday shows tomorrow. I will not watch him, but will review what he says on the internet. I detest the man needless to say! I find him very, very evil!

    6. Anonymous8:28 PM

      Nobody with an IQ of 161 would read this blog, not even me. Take your feces elsewhere.

    7. Anonymous8:57 PM

      This connection is not only relevant because of the family connection, but also because Chao family often has made great millionaire donations to political campaigns McConnell, contributing much money doubtful and US policy elite groups.

      In fact, Chao family has been financing business and political life of McConnell since late 1980. Years later, in 1993, Senator McConnell married Elaine Chao and Chao told family as one of their main sources of investments .

      It has been recorded in the amount of gifts worth between 5 and 25 million dollars later made part of the Chao family in favor of McConnel, making it one of the richest senators from North America in 2008." HIS INLAWS!!

    8. Anonymous10:11 PM

      6:38 If you're truly doing "just fine", you might want to check this out. You might be surprised to find out you're one of the "super rich" that Bernie wants to punish.

  10. Anonymous5:51 PM

    28% is not a majority.
    78% are employed, thus employed are the majority.
    What about people who choose to not disclose and retired people?
    What a sloppy and misleading headline.
    You're better than this.

    1. You are quite right, my headline was poorly written and deceptive. As was a portion of the post.

      I have hopefully rectified those mistakes and it should be more accurate now.

    2. Anonymous6:24 PM

      Hmmm...looks like working people represent the top donors for Bernie, and....banks represent the top donors for Hillary.

      Come November, just remember, you get what you pay for.
      As long as you're the one paying her.

    3. Anonymous6:53 PM


      Duh. She won't talk to anyone for less than a million, unless of course she's beggin' for votes.

      Two words Hillary; Barack Obama. We liked him more than you in 2008 and our feelings haven't changed. Anyone but Hillary. The more you want it the more we don't want you to have it, kind of like that husband of yours ;-)

    4. Anonymous6:54 PM

      I gave to both of their campaigns.

    5. Anonymous10:26 PM

      6:53 You are a fucking pig. Just keep in mind that there are more woman voters than men AND Trump as a 70% disapproval rating among woman. Fucking pig.

    6. Anonymous9:36 AM



  11. Anonymous5:54 PM

    I don't understand it. My husband and I have never donated to a political campaign. If it's not tax deductible, we're not going to donate.

    We give our money to plenty of worthy non-profit, tax-deductible causes, but padding the pockets of politicians? Thanks but no thanks.

    I feel very badly for those that get suckered by our system. There are so many more worthy causes to donate to, if one must, rather than feed a machine that is very broken and already in the pocket of the unbelievably wealthy. These people don't need your money, they've already been purchased by people richer than you can imagine and I'm sorry but your measly $500 or $1000 dollar donations aren't going to make any difference in how they operate.

    1. Anonymous6:17 PM

      If it is my money, what's it to you? Seriously.
      Some people spend money at the casino, some drop it in the collection plate-do you chastise them?

    2. Anonymous6:51 PM

      I'm not chastising anyone. I just fully believe in making my money work for me or providing direct relief.

      The odds are not in ones favor on the blackjack table, the collection plate at church does nothing but purchase a larger parsonage for the already overpaid pastor, and throwing money into the political toilet is even worse.

      Now don't get me wrong. If I was one of the 1% I'd give until it hurt, because ya know what, I'd see a return, I'd have purchased myself a special interest vote, a piece of legislation that would enable me to make even more money so I could purchase even more legislation, more votes, more influence in DC.

      However, unless one is of the financial persuasion that is able to actually purchase personal attention in one of the three branches of our Government you may as well just spend it on something else that benefits you or someone else that is needier than you. Directly, not through a scamming grifting church or rotten charity that doesn't meet charitable standards. Hell, I bought a guy a $50 in groceries last week. He came to my car, he said he needed money for groceries so I walked him into Carrs/Safway and bought him some groceries, mostly non perishable, but some fresh fruit, veggies and juice too. He probably wanted money for booze, but instead he got a couple of meals.

    3. Anonymous7:13 PM

      You obviously haven't been paying attention.

    4. Anonymous10:31 PM

      AMEN!!! I won't even check that box on my tax return. How is it possible we have billions of dollars donated to presidential campaigns but not cancer research?


  12. As long as the Republicans control Congress neither Sanders nor Hillary Clinton will be able to do much for anyone.

    1. Anonymous6:51 PM

      That's why ALL voting Americans need to get out, vote and knock out Republicans whether in the U.S.Congress or their state Legislatures.

      The country needs to turn blue and get something done that will benefit ALL Americans - not just the rich!

    2. Anonymous6:55 PM

      Thank you for this important reminder.

    3. Anonymous8:51 PM

      Exactly. In fact, there is no guarantee Hillary would do better than Bernie in getting anything passed as I think the Republicans loathe her more than Obama. Even if they would be relieved that Trumplethinskin lost.

    4. Anonymous8:56 PM

      Exactly. In fact, there is no guarantee Hillary would do better than Bernie in getting anything passed as I think the Republicans loathe her more than Obama. Even if they would be relieved that Trumplethinskin lost.

    5. Anonymous10:38 PM

      Between Bernie and Hillary, I think Hillary can get more done. Bernie has pipe dreams. They sound nice, but not realistic in the least. He would take so much money out of the economy for health care and education there would be no jobs to be had once these kids get out of college. I think the near-Trump presidency might shake up the legislatures enough to actually start doing their jobs. Their 7 year working strike has begat this nightmare, and I don't think they're very proud of it.

    6. Anonymous3:54 AM

      I think they are very proud of doing nothing. Had they accomplished anything, they could run on that, instead of insults and temper tantrums.

  13. @5:54PM Actually, 100,000 average people who donate $50 each is $5,000,0000 compared to 100 rich people who each give $1,000, which is only $100,000. I consider it my civic duty to donate to Democrats, and it adds up. I don't care if it isn't tax's just one of those things that a citizen has to do in order to not let this country become completely run by corporations. Oh, and VOTING, that's important too, because despite Citizens United, corporations still can't actually vote.

    As far as Bernie goes...........not only is he a socialist, but I think that he's probably an atheist too, and he was definitely a conscientious objector during the Vietnam War. I don't have a problem with any of that, but I think that any one of those things would make him unelectable with a lot of Independents, so he appears to have three big strikes against him. Can you imagine the ads?

    1. Anonymous6:59 PM

      I agree. I gave to both Bernie and Hillary. It is my civic duty to support Democrats as well: well-said! And I've never missed a chance to vote for the past 40 years. It is a sacred privilege; many lost their lives in campaigns to acquire voting rights for all.

    2. Maple7:04 PM

      The problem is, kootchiekoo, that they HAVEN'T yet seen any ads against Sanders, and obviously in their fantasyland thinking, they can't even imagine how Sanders will be branded -- socialist, atheist, COMMUNIST. Yet they're perfectly prepared to believe all the crap the GOP have been spewing about Hillary over the past 30 years.

    3. Anonymous9:00 PM

      The people of Vermont know all this and they don't seem to have had a problem re-electing him over and over. And Vermont is hardly a liberal blue state.

    4. Anonymous10:04 PM

      First of all, being a CO never stopped anyone from being drafted. It just meant they shoved you into being a medic, orderly , or in the supply chain. It doesn't constitute any big hand clap at all. Bernie was never drafted and never served ( as thousands of others did) as a CO in our military. You might want to educate what the draft was before waving a huge flag that is much ado about nothing. Bernie did not challenge the draft at all, but got married to avoid it one yr and his GF knocked up another 18 months after that.
      As for his communist/socialist political identity, most people could care less and dislike him for other reasons.

    5. Anonymous10:46 PM

      9:00 Have you ever BEEN to Vermont? The first state to legalize gay marriage? Sure it's woodsy and they hunt and wear a lot of plaid flannel, but they're not rednecks.

    6. Phyllis11:08 PM

      Anonymous9:00 PM
      Even though you think Vermont is not a liberal blue state, they have given their electoral votes to a Democrat in the last 6 elections.

  14. Anonymous6:48 PM

    Bernie will never be POTUS!! He has screwed himself royally and now sounds like a nasty old man who is intent upon dividing the Democratic Party and endeavoring to keep Hillary Clinton from becoming POTUS.

    She has my vote, even more determinedly so than before!!

    Bernie and Trump are in categories all by themselves and neither is fit, or has the capabilities or temperament, for being POTUS.

  15. Wow-- We Don't need no stinkin Dog Whistles round here.. Less than a month ago Bill Clinton cashed a $250,000 check for a speech at a vulture capitalist firm. (Much like Bane Capital),And you're basically calling Sanders supporters welfare Queens.UFB

    1. Anonymous3:51 AM

      Gee, maybe Bernie wants to be POTUS so he can make high paying speeches in four years to support the lifestyle Jane has become accustomed to?


    1. Anonymous8:35 PM

      So what?

    2. Anonymous10:06 PM

      My tax dollars weren't supporting their asses on unemployment either. Earn your own money and I could care less how you spend it, but if you rely on my tax dollars I should be able to complain.

    3. Anonymous10:47 AM

      You sound jealous of Bill Clinton's income.

  17. Anonymous7:13 PM

    I work with young (and not so young) people at a technical college, educating them and finding them jobs in technical fields. The employers I work with are crying for help- but the jobs require specific skills, not a 4 year learn-to-think-high-thoughts degree but soldering, optical fiber splicing, electronic measurements. Friends who work with sheet metal and machining companies say the same thing- lots of jobs, no skilled workers. Maybe these unemployed folks should stop thinking of skilled work as beneath them and learn some useful skills that lead to employment. Not everyone needs a 4 year degree.

    1. Anonymous8:18 PM

      Never mind that they'd rather be a dentist than a welder.

      Everyone that wants to go to college should be able to go.

      Everyone that wants to learn a skill or trade should be able to do so.

      Every student that graduates from high school should have a saleable skill. Then they can CHOOSE what they want to do rather than forced to remain in their "caste".

    2. Anonymous9:00 PM

      Maybe you should stop assuming and pay attention.

    3. Anonymous11:29 PM

      ^THIS. What people are really angry at President Obama about (besides the obvious) is progress. They're pissed that the skills they had 20 or even 10 years ago aren't as valuable now as they were. Of course they're also justifiably pissed that they have to take on the equivalent of a mortgage for a college education, but Bernie is writing checks his ass cant cash, and Trump couldn't give a flying fuck. But I're right. There are lucrative jobs to be had if people would just admit to themselves that they need new skills.

    4. Anonymous3:50 AM

      Oh please. I graduated with a teaching certificate in 1976. I taught one full year, subbed other years, and now teach private music students in my home. I also worked in two great libraries, waitressed, rated two wonderful kids (an engineer and an attorney, both happily working,) was a parapro in a 1st grade room for 8 years where I graded papers and helped young readers, help at two schools with brass players and solo and ensemble groups, and have done lots of things.
      We were told in college that we would change careers a half dozen times. My husband is a retired (38 years) chem engineer, but his job description changed every few years, and we moved five times with the company.
      If you're relying on skills from 20 years ago, yeah, they are NOT as valuable as then, and if you haven't learned new ones, I do not see how that is Obama's fault.
      Community colleges are open to everyone, and are cheap. Learn something marketable.

  18. Anonymous8:12 PM

    I'm not working.

    I'm unemployed.

    I'm retired.

    It's no one's business where my money comes from or how I choose to spend it.

    Let the condescending insults begin.

    1. Anonymous8:29 PM

      I'm in the same position you are, 8:12 -- I'm retired, after a lifetime of hard work. That makes me "unemployed," but I'm not a "taker," as Gryphen implies. That's right out of Romney's playbook!
      I'm retired, and, until recently, contributed monthly to Sanders.
      Let the condescending insults begin here, too.

    2. Anonymous8:58 PM

      What? I thought all Bernie supporters were stoner bros.

      Just kidding. I know Gryph is just full of horse shit.

    3. Anonymous9:20 PM

      No insults from me. I hope I hope you both have a long and very happy retirement!

    4. Anonymous10:08 PM

      Technically unless you are receiving unemployment you are not unemployed according to the government so they are not counting you.

    5. Anonymous12:26 AM

      The graphic doesn't say unemployed. Gryphen said it. (In his own "impartial" Hillary ass kissing way.)

      The graphic says not working.

      I'm not working. I'm retired.

      The problem is it doesn't differentiate between unemployed, not working because they are a student or retired. And you can be unemployed without receiving unemployment compensation. Many older adults are unemployed longer than their benefits last before they find another job, *IF* they ever do. Lumping them all into "without a job" is willfully misleading and inaccurate. But then, Gryphen loves that sort of thing if it can bash Bernie more.

    6. Anonymous3:44 AM

      He isn't bashing your beloved Saint Bernie. He reported what the poll said. Lord you guys are touchy. No wonder your supporters are beating up people.

  19. Anonymous9:01 PM

    HRC could clinch the Democratic nomination tomorrow, because Puerto Rico has so many delegates (and if the AP got any more super delegates to publicly commit afterwards, on record.)

    But word on social media is that the HRC campaign wants to wait and celebrate it with a big state win, such as New Jersey. HRC will be in Brooklyn on Tuesday night, so they are thinking NJ. Also, they are supposedly asking superdelegates to hold off any comments until Tuesday night.

    1. Anonymous12:27 AM

      In New Jersey Tuesday night?

      Guess she's written off California.

    2. Anonymous3:43 AM

      She has not...she will win there as well. Grow up.

    3. Anonymous12:54 PM

      Grow up.

      There's your respectful Hillary 'shippers.

      No different than Trump's narcissists.

      My way or the high way. Insult the hell out of anyone that disagrees with you or refuses to vote the way you order them to.

      Grow up? That's how you're going to convince me to vote for your shrew?

      Eff you.

  20. Anonymous9:10 PM

    First of all, no one unemployed should be sending ANY money to a political candidate.
    But I was dismayed when I saw that Bernie Sanders had websites to get money from minor children( teens) stating that if it's their money and they have a checking account they can spend it as they wish.
    Bernie didn't need campaign funds from minor children ( neither did Hillary or Donald) But I did think it was pretty low life for any Nat'l candidate to try and steal money from minor children.

    1. Anonymous12:30 AM

      If a 16 or 17 year old is old enough to work and have a bank account, then they are old enough to start getting involved in the political process. Perhaps if they did they'd be voting once they turned 18 instead of sitting out elections. Bernie is motivating the youth vote. Good for him. Because they shouldn't think that because their voices are small no one listens. (Unless you are a CEO with millions to donate or a corporation or PAC that can bundle large donations.)

    2. Anonymous8:50 AM

      @anon 12:30pm
      You can be involved in politics in many ways, but trolling for dollars from children is not something anyone should be doing.

    3. Anonymous12:51 PM

      They can't vote. The only voice they have is their money. Money they worked for. The Supreme Court says money is speech. Since they can't vote why can't they use their money so that their political voice can be heard?

      It's not ILLEGAL for them to make political contributions.

    4. Anonymous3:15 PM

      @anon 12:51pm
      No, it's not illegal, just unethical. BTW they can phone bank, they can door knock, they can volunteer at many levels, but trolling children to take their money is unethical no matter how you put it.

  21. Anonymous9:21 PM

    For those of you that would like a breakdown of donors to the Clinton & Sanders campaigns, you can find the breakdowns at

    Here's Clinton's numbers:

    Here are Sanders numbers:

    Hillary Clinton's top contributors are the Securities & Investment Industry with over $28 million in donations for the 2016 cycle.

    Bernie Sanders top contributors are found in the Education Industry with approximately $5 million in donations for the 2016 cycle. The third largest contributors to Bernie's campaign are Retired!

    1. Anonymous9:25 PM

      I contributed to both of them and I'm none of the above.

    2. Anonymous3:42 AM

      So you think employees of S&E should be voting for Trump? Realize that those are donations from PEOPLE, not corporations.

    3. Anonymous5:53 AM

      Of course the Education industry is propping up Bernie.He has promised free tuition,meaning more jobs for them.Too bad he can't ever get that passed.

    4. Anonymous12:48 PM

      "Hillary Clinton's top contributors are the Securities & Investment Industry with over $28 million in donations for the 2016 cycle."

      And *THAT* is why Elizabeth Warren would make a terrible running mate for Hillary. They would be a terrible match.

      I wouldn't put it past Hillary to ask her and pressure her to run just to get Warren out of the way and muzzle her for her Wall St. pals.

    5. Anonymous3:13 PM

      @anon 12:48pm
      Maybe you just don't understand or maybe you are just that dense, but those contributions came from individual donors not corporations.
      Are you saying people in certain jobs shouldn't be allowed to donate to the candidates of their choice?

  22. Anonymous9:23 PM

    So 28% of Bernie Sanders donors are unemployed

    Their spirits are lifted because Bernie Sanders is going to raise minimum wage to $15 an hour.

    I'm all for raising minimum wage but is Bernie Sanders telling America that McDonald is going to pay high school students $15 to flip hamburgers? $15 an hour to fill soda cups? So in order for McDonalds to pay $15 minimum wage how much will they raise their hamburgers to pay these wages? If people are not willing to pay $5 for a regular no frills hamburger, how long will these $15 an hour hamburger flippers stay employed? Now because of Sanders you will now have teenagers who can't find jobs roaming the streets with no money and nothing to do. But why would 77 year old Bernie Sanders care when he already died of old age?

    Yes raise minimum wage but what Hillary Clinton suggests makes more sense. Hillary says let's raise minimum wage but let's make it more reasonable.

    1. Anonymous9:57 PM

      I'm a bleeding heart liberal, but I think a flat national minimum wage is ridiculous. $15 an hour might afford a luxury apartment in one region while it might only pay for a boarding room in another. Whether it should be based on state, district or town, or maybe even revenue...I don't know. But that's why I'm not a politician. ;)

    2. Anonymous3:21 PM

      Have you ever worked at McDonalds? I have! One of the worst jobs I have ever had! People think it's easy when they haven't done it themselves.

  23. Anonymous9:45 PM

    I admired Bernie until I ran across this Vox’s new presidential tax calculator

    There's not just haves and have nots anymore. There are the have nots, the have enoughs, and the have more than they'll ever need for generations to come. I'm one of the have enoughs who put most of our money into dining, shopping, home improvements and travelling. Bernie wants to take that away from us to give to the have nots. The billionaires that are sitting on their billions are not going to pump the money into the economy that Bernie wants to take from those of us who do spend.

    According to this calculator, Hillary wants about $1 a day from me. Trump wants to give me about $600 a month, but I don't want to live in the world he takes that money from. Bernie wants almost $1000 a month from me.

    I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume I'm not the only one who expends a lot of my expendable income. We're the ones that are going to put people out of work because we're not shopping or dining out or doing home improvements anymore. Then we'll all be have nots.

    1. Anonymous9:51 PM

      That's one reason my husband switched, too.

    2. Anonymous1:11 AM


      Didn't they just fire a deputy editor for inciting democratic supporters to beat up Trump supporters?

      Oh yeah. I'd sure trust VOX.

    3. Anonymous3:40 AM

      That report is out there from a government agency-VOX was just reporting it. I have seen those numbers as well. Bernie wants tax money from all of us, while growing the debt by 30 trillion more. No way any of his plans get through. Nada.

    4. Anonymous6:39 AM

      Thanks for putting the link in a clickable format. Much easier to link when on iPad.

  24. Anonymous9:46 PM

    OT Good news>

    1. Anonymous3:38 AM

      Guess they didn't poll the Palins.

  25. Anonymous12:05 AM

    Wrap your Bernie hating brain around this-students aren't working, but neither are old fuckers like me who are barely existing on Social Security. And then explain that "money for weapons" thing your sweetie had going on. If you can.

    1. Anonymous3:38 AM

      No one hates Bernie, sir. And which party wants to totally gut SS, and which one will strengthen it? Wrap your Hillary-hating brain around that. Bernie's big plans will put us 30 billion in the hole-what Congress will ever latch onto that?

    2. Anonymous5:49 AM

      If you are "barely existing on Social Security" and have not been disabled and unable to work before retirement age,then whose fault is it? I am on SS but worked my butt off for 46 years first,mostly 2 jobs during that time.Medical issues took all of my savings,but all of that work left me with a good monthly SS check. Of course,Old Bernie promises you lots of freebies,but you sir,seem to have forgotten that he can't do anything without Congress. Get Bernie,get empty promises.

    3. Anonymous8:47 AM

      Now I'm not a Bernie supporter, but just what do you expect Bernie to do for you since you didn't save for your retirement?
      I'm mostly retired and enjoy my SS check every month for my pocket money. I worked hard and saved and am still managing the properties I bought as investments so I could retire comfortably.

  26. Anonymous3:36 AM

    Guess that explains why so many of them are free to roam the nation and cause problems-they have no jobs.

  27. Anonymous4:43 AM

    It saddens me to think that Bernie Sanders is still talking "revolution." He may mean something as benign as a shift in political ideology but lots of people hear "let's ignore the rules, take to the streets and cause mayhem." It's time for Sanders to be specific about how physically riotous he wants his supporters to be. The stakes in November could not be higher and we know the GOP will take advantage of every opportunity to foment discord and chaos among Democrats. It's something that they do and they've perfected their method since Richard Nixon's time. It takes a strong and united Democratic Party to defeat them.

  28. Anonymous7:29 AM

    Here is the daily dose of the bashing of Bernie/Bernie's fans. I don't understand why wanting a better system than the corrupt system that exists now is such a bad thing.

    1. Anonymous8:14 AM

      Because it's HER TURN!!!!
      She's waited long enough and she WANTS HER TURN!!!!
      How DARE you question that?!?!

    2. Anonymous8:44 AM

      No one forced Bernie to run as a Democrat or to join the party for one yr. He chose to join and participate in the Democratic Party structure. How dare a structure be in place when Bernie wants to be crowned! How dare a woman run against Bernie, Baby Jane says it's his turn! BTW I'm still waiting to view the Sander's tax returns.

    3. Anonymous9:12 AM

      Anon at 8:14 am. Most Democrats approached this primary season with open minds. But we knew that we would support whichever candidate emerged as the most likely to be able to defeat the Klown Kar occupant chosen by the GOP.

      Sad to say but Bernie Sanders lost me a couple of months ago 1) because so many of his proposals have nothing to back them up, and 2) because his credentials seem very thin on foreign policy, the environment, and issues that concern minorities and women, and 3) because he became a terribly "sore loser." He displays that flaw whenever he whines and complains about the rules that he should have known well before entering the race in the first place. Bernie Sanders has been a great disappointment to this lifelong liberal Democrat.

      And, yes, at this point, it is certainly true that Hillary Clinton has earned her success in this primary season. She has not attacked the Democratic Party; she has consistently been supportive of Democratic candidates running in downstream elections; she has clear positions on issues that mean a lot to all Americans, she has foreign policy credibility, and she has not whined and cried "fraud" whenever something did not go her way.

    4. Anonymous12:44 PM

      Because he dared to challenge the anointed one, not for profit but for altruism.

      How dare he challenge the Dem machine and want to see a change in direction (for the better) before he dies.

    5. Anonymous2:44 PM

      Anon at 12:44 pm. If Bernie Sanders wanted to "challenge the Dem machine," then he should not have signed on to run as a Democratic candidate. By joining the party, he should have had the decency to abide by its rules.

  29. Anonymous9:12 AM

    The exact same thing can be said about Clinton.

  30. Anonymous12:39 PM

    If Bernie is so great, why didn't he run as an independent? He just didn't believe in himself and I don't believe in him either. He's got no record of accomplishment, only bluster.

  31. Anonymous12:43 PM

    Good grief you bunch a big baby Bernie bots! I liked him at first too, I even sent him money. But I've got eyes and I can see what's in front of me, he aint the guy I thought he was. However, every time I see Hillary I see an excellent candidate. She's mature, smart, experienced, and inspires a lot more confidence than either Trump or Sanders. I can admit I was wrong about Bernie.

  32. Anonymous1:53 PM

    WTF? The rich and retired are unemployed. I'm sure Hillary has more of those.


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