Wednesday, July 20, 2016

These guys are just nonchalantly walking around the streets outside of the Republican convention.

Courtesy of Salon: 

A dozen armed white men marched around outside the Republican National Convention in downtown Cleveland on Monday afternoon. 

Salon spoke with the men, who call themselves the West Ohio Minutemen. 

Tim Alexander, 32, identified the group as a right-wing “militia,” and said they are from Mercer County, Ohio. 

“We’re tired of the way the country’s going,” Alexander explained. 

He condemned “the over-reaching government.” When asked what he meant by that, Alexander claimed that the U.S. government is using mass shootings to impose harsh gun control measures — although none have yet been passed. 

Alexander said he opposes all gun laws.

When asked what they do, they claimed that they "help people," and apparently they do so with the AR-15's, AK-47's and G3 assault rifles strapped to their chests.

How we have reached day three of this convention without anybody being shot or killed, is beyond me.

But if I had to guess I would attribute that to the incredible police presence.

The police even managed to rescue Alex Jones after he attempted to create a conflict with the other protesters and almost got his ass kicked.

Personally I might have actually allowed that to happen.

Guess that's why I'm not a cop.

104 comments:

  1. Anonymous11:31 AM

    Cleveland is safe. Ask Sarah.

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  2. Anonymous11:36 AM

    And nardbaldo Trumpmarineweenie says bad things about Hillary? A real little man that abuses abused women, is a very sick and very tiny small little man with HUGELY bigly complex.

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  3. Anonymous11:42 AM

    Sometimes I am embarrassed to be white. Scared little pussies, every last one of them.

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    1. Anonymous2:09 PM

      Me too.

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    2. hell, I'm usually ashamed to be human....

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  4. Anonymous11:45 AM

    I wonder how many of these dickheads have served in combat? These are the ones that should have ended up as semen running down their momma's leg, only to be wiped and flushed. Sigh. Thanks, God!

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  5. Anonymous11:46 AM

    If they weren't white, they would be dead. Period.

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    1. Anonymous11:48 AM

      Very true

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    2. Anonymous11:54 AM

      New Orleans 'Shell Shocked' documentary examines grim reality of murder through the eyes of children.
      http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2013/05/shell_shocked_documentary_exam.html

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    3. Anonymous12:07 PM

      Ha. Bullshit. There were plenty of 'non-white' (as you say) people legally open carrying in Dallas before the shooting.... As well as there have been in past events, with no problem. Just because you have an agenda to push, doesn't mean you are right.

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    4. Anonymous12:16 PM

      I hope parents are keeping as much of this Republican bullshit away from their children's eyes and ears as possible.

      Actually think it might be a good idea not having TV in homes at all! I only like the education channel, home and state news (even that is awful in Alaska!) and QVC! You can see I watch little!

      Strongly recommend reading books of interest to you and especially to study and read of the history of Alaska, America and the world!

      Sections of the internet would be good too!

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    5. Anonymous12:22 PM

      My agenda, 12:07? I am a law abiding 60 year old white. I just watched a black man get shot at point blank range with a gun in his pocket and two police men on him. I just saw a video of a dying black man, who tried to produce his with a gun drawn on him. My agenda is equality and civility. What is your agenda and why are you even posting on IM? Are you lonely, now that you no longer post at c4p?

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    6. Anonymous12:29 PM

      who tried to produce his ID with a gun drawn on him.
      Damn spell check.

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    7. Anonymous12:42 PM

      Ah, you like to compare apples to oranges 12:22.

      There were plenty of black people open carrying in the same fashion as the people in the picture above at the Dallas BLM protest, without major problems. According to you, they should be dead, what went wrong?

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    8. Anonymous12:56 PM

      12:22 you are aware that more white people are killed by police every year than black people are you not? You know that right, more white people killed by police yearly?

      And if you return argument is that there are fewer black people (as is always the retort)... then let us visit the violent crime and murder statistics by race, and understand why the black population as a whole (not as individuals mind you) has so many interactions with police that end badly for everyone, whether justified or in error.

      Go ahead call me a racist, but numbers aren't racist.

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    9. Anonymous1:53 PM

      12:42/12:56, Proof? Links (no Breitbart, Right Scoop, Red State crap)?

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    10. Anonymous2:11 PM

      Uhhhh, really 1:53?

      Try federal agency reports.

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    11. Anonymous2:14 PM

      12:07, 12:42, 12:56
      Assclown troll is in the house again. Yeah, genius, numbers aren't racist, but you obviously have no understanding of statistics and how to evaluate whether or not they're lying'. So toddle on back to the Urinal. You don't belong here where we actually have civil discussions. Buh bye!

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    12. Anonymous2:32 PM

      lol... civil discussions at IM? The very irony fully embedded in your ridiculous retort 2:14.

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    13. While it is true that more white people are shot by cops than black people, that number is meaningless because THERE ARE FAR MORE WHITE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY THAN BLACK PEOPLE.

      In case you don't understand the concept of ratios, read on:

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      In 2015, The Washington Post launched a real-time database to track fatal police shootings, and the project continues this year. As of Sunday, 1,502 people have been shot and killed by on-duty police officers since Jan. 1, 2015. Of them, 732 were white, and 381 were black (and 382 were of another or unknown race).

      But as data scientists and policing experts often note, comparing how many or how often white people are killed by police to how many or how often black people are killed by the police is statistically dubious unless you first adjust for population.

      According to the most recent census data, there are nearly 160 million more white people in America than there are black people. White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis published last week, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.

      U.S. police officers have shot and killed the exact same number of unarmed white people as they have unarmed black people: 50 each. But because the white population is approximately five times larger than the black population, that means unarmed black Americans were five times as likely as unarmed white Americans to be shot and killed by a police officer.

      Police have shot and killed a young black man (ages 18 to 29) — such as Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo. —175 times since January 2015; 24 of them were unarmed. Over that same period, police have shot and killed 172 young white men, 18 of whom were unarmed. Once again, while in raw numbers there were similar totals of white and black victims, blacks were killed at rates disproportionate to their percentage of the U.S. population. Of all of the unarmed people shot and killed by police in 2015, 40 percent of them were black men, even though black men make up just 6 percent of the nation’s population.

      And, when considering shootings confined within a single race, a black person shot and killed by police is more likely to have been unarmed than a white person. About 13 percent of all black people who have been fatally shot by police since January 2015 were unarmed, compared with 7 percent of all white people.

      -- end quote

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    14. Anonymous2:50 PM

      So you fell into the same old rabbit hole I said you would redneck. How dumb.

      How is this for a ratio?

      "According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of white victims killed by whites, and 93% of black victims killed by blacks"

      8 times higher! 8 Times!

      And that is just homicide.

      Do YOU understand ratios redneck?

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    15. Anonymous2:59 PM

      OMG! We need a SMARTER FuCKiNG troll instead of Assclown! Shit-for-brains, that is based on raw data. It isn't per capita, and therefore is basically meaningless you dumb maroon.

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    16. Anonymous3:23 PM

      Well based on numbers, Redneck says that black people are 5 times more likely to be killed by police. Yet if you look at even just homicide, the black population is 8 times more likely to commit homicide than the white population.

      Seems like the black criminals are getting off easier than the white criminals if you equalize the numbers.

      We are talking ratios now, 2:59 you dumbass, since redneck was dumb enough to go there.

      Shall we also look at the ratio of other violent crimes, maybe the ratios of robbery and theft too? Population vs numbers...

      You probably won't like the results. Just sayin'.

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    17. Anonymous3:23 PM

      It's true that more white people than black people are killed by police every year. However, when adjusted for the population difference - whites are 62% of the population and blacks are 13% - the rate at which blacks are killed by police is disproportionately higher. We have a problem in this country with black people experiencing the criminal justice system, from encounter with police through imprisonment, in a disproportionately more negative way than white people. People who deny this have their heads in the sand.

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    18. Anonymous3:28 PM

      And the why behind the numbers? A group of people with a skin color different from the ruling class that are oppressed for years, more in poverty and uneducated. Not as many have mothers like Sarah Palin who has a corrupt legal system to get her children out of any legal issues no matter how serious their crimes.

      Nothing skews those numbers?

      Sure white on white crime is prolific. That does not change the systemic social and legal injustices that have ruled for so long. Obviously there are many fear fueled scared white men, they didn't just appear one day. They come from a long line of fearful people. Some of the ones that are heavy into religion are the most scared, that religion doesn't work for them.

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    19. Anonymous5:38 PM

      Please, if you don't understand statistics, and not everyone does, refrain from posting. Redneck, 2:59, and 3:23 are absolutely right, and no I am not them. Lack of understanding of statistics is how the masses are duped.

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    20. Anonymous7:02 PM

      YOU don't understand statistics 5:38.

      YOU don't.

      Equalize the populations and look at the crime numbers per race. It is frankly astounding that you keep deflecting reality. Thank god the entire population is not as foolishly and purposely ignorant as you are.

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    21. Anonymous7:10 PM

      Damn, 2:50 and 5:38, get a fucking room!!

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    22. Anonymous8:29 PM

      Assclown, delete your account.

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  6. Anonymous11:49 AM

    Nothing better to do than walk around with guns? Why aren't they at work? Bunch of losers

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    1. Anonymous11:54 AM

      No work. They live in their mother's basements

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    2. Anonymous2:16 PM

      Or sit on the couch drinking' beer and stroking their extended penises while ranting at the TV. Geniuses one and all. (eye roll)

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  7. Anonymous11:52 AM

    These guys obviously have listened to too much Alex Jones, and spent too much time playing xbox. They are crossing over from their pretend world over to ours. Go back! Go back!

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    1. Anonymous2:17 PM

      Yes, just like our assclown redneck trailer trash troll.

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  8. Anonymous11:53 AM

    OT.....have you seen this? http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

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    1. ibwilliamsi12:27 PM

      I'm thinking that the mysterious Meredith McIver is in all actuality another Trump Alias. Yes, she seems to have a past back to 2001 with the Trump organization, but does she have any other past? Perhaps she's the wife of "John Barron".

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    2. Anonymous1:06 PM

      @12:27 yep!"In working with Melania Trump on her recent First Lady speech" WTF?
      http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=32114
      Is this legal?
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/melania-trump-speech-campaign-contribution_us_578fb709e4b0f180da641208?section=

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    3. Anonymous4:06 PM

      There is a Meredith McIver. Melania just didn't know she helped her write the speech until now.

      Melania is not going to be at the big deal RNC event today? She may not feel good about the lie they want her to live and does not want to show her face.

      She will have to be a good wife and come out eventually to support the latest spin.

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  9. Anonymous11:54 AM

    Gonna repeat what I said on another thread:

    GAG! What has this country come to?

    And I am a gun owner.

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    1. I can see upper NY state from my back deck. It would take me approx. 20 minutes to cross the border.
      I will not. Neither will my husband. And just to reinforce my decision, I just heard on NPR a report that said Hillary is leading Trump by 12% in New York City, but Trump leads Hillary by 12% in upper NY State. Trump's chief campaigner there is the absolutely disgusting, horrible Carl Palladino. I'm quite sure there are progressives across the river, but unfortunately they are outnumbered. I'm staying in my own safe country.

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    2. Crystal Sage12:39 PM

      Palladino ran for governor with a baseball bat. He lost in a landslide. He has bought a horse race track in Canada and those of us who live here are appalled that this Trump wannabe has branched out from the US. Not to worry though. The majority of the people in Buffalo, Syracuse and the Tri-city area will vote Democratic. The other small communities of Repubs will be greatly outnumbered at the polls. Those of us who know about Palladino will work to out-vote his BFF, Drumpf.

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    3. Anonymous12:56 PM

      @ maple - I would become an ex-pat in a hot NY second if I was younger and employable. Seems other countries aren't so anxious to embrace us old farts though.

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    4. Anonymous12:57 PM

      @12:08 - Ditto for me. I've read that many countries are now issuing travel warnings for those wishing to visit the U.S.

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  10. Anonymous12:09 PM

    What Donald Trump, et al, bring out of the woodwork is unbelievable.

    I can hardly wait for this idiotic/hateful Republican Convention to be over!

    Trump should be sent to the gallows!

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    1. Anonymous12:48 PM

      Don't you think they will go to the DNC convention? That is where they would like the violence to break out.

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    2. ibwilliamsi1:27 PM

      I absolutely believe that they will stir up bloodshed at the DNC.

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    3. Anonymous2:03 PM

      http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/gop-convention-flag-burning-protest-arrests-225902
      Earlier, police had escorted away a right-wing group that stepped on a rainbow flag.

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    4. Balzafiar5:26 PM

      @12:09 That would be a waste of good rope.

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    5. Anonymous6:27 PM

      @2:03, and the police confiscated the hundreds of pink and green tennis balls that the Code Pink protesters brought to their rally. Police told them that they might fill them with feces and then throw them which would be dangerous. Their hands were tied when it came to doing anything about the open-carry crowd.

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  11. Anonymous12:13 PM

    "How we have reached day three of this convention without anybody being shot or killed, is beyond me."

    Thats funny. If you take a look at all the problems that have occurred around politically and socially charged gatherings of people, all the violence, lootings, riots, shootings, shootings of police, killing of police... all that... has pretty much been circling around all the BLM events. The open carry folks, like you see above, strange as they may seem, for the most part haven't experienced nearly the same level of problems. Although it seems like you really want them too.

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    1. Anonymous12:32 PM

      BULLSHIT, 12:13! Don't come here and try to rewrite the truth! The violence breaks out after unjustified shooting of blacks. Period. Not justified, but understandable.

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    2. Anonymous12:45 PM

      Actually, the violence typically breaks out before any facts or reports or court hearings have occurred, 12:32.

      What exactly are you saying? Are you justifying the shootings of police randomly, as an exaction of sorts?

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    3. Anonymous1:56 PM

      I guess the words 'not justified' were lost on you?

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    4. Anonymous2:33 PM

      Hey, assclown (waving)! How ya been? You know what I've noticed more than color? The shooters are more often discharged military. Things that should make you go, "Hmmm?" But then again, you're an assclown troll, and that has been known to affect IQ and judgment. Just saying'. Bless your heart! :-)

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    5. Anonymous2:43 PM

      You are cute when you get confused and agitated because you cannot process complex issues due to your low IQ, 2:33.

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    6. Anonymous3:21 PM

      2:43/12:45-I would never justify or condone the killing of police officers. I actually go out of my way to personally thank any I encounter. I have a cop brother-in-law. But, I do understand the rage and frustration that some express through violence. I do not defend it any more than I defend the recent killings of black men.

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    7. Anonymous4:20 PM

      The shooters are more often discharged military.


      The dudes in top picture, are they discharged military? What kind of training did they have?

      Good grief that gun place the gave Sarah, Bristol and Willow certificates also posted pictures that did not look like they knew about gun safety.

      If these guys were trained like that, how sad.

      I do think the NRA would want the open carry and anything with guns to be looking real good for their convention. I would think most of the Republicans on the outside would want the NRA event showing AR-15s and open carry to be a good thing.

      The DNC is another situation.

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    8. Anonymous5:41 PM

      Assclown troll is defensive and trying to act superior. Epic fail, sweetie. Thanks for playing. Oh and bless your heart, pinhead. Now go put your head back up your ass and pretend to know what the adults are discussing.

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    9. Anonymous10:57 AM

      From someone who's been working in the middle of it and keeping a scanner running to listen for trouble around our workplace's location- BULLSHIT. The issues have been between the Klan and the Westboro dumbasses. Neither group most anyone you talk to would admit to supporting. Try again though.

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  12. Anonymous12:16 PM

    dRumpf and Giuly boy/girl>
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8

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    1. Anonymous12:18 PM

      Bitch slapped!

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  13. Anonymous12:18 PM

    When will the trump owned media begin to report on the rigged system? When will they report on the "Pledge" made by "signers" to defund military security their ben gazi? Allowing republican, trump owned media and rump internet service to buy America is wrong. period. very very bad.

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    1. Anonymous2:40 PM

      I think you mean Murdoch owned media unless you were just referring to the media (all) carrying Trump's water.

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  14. Anonymous12:22 PM

    This is so bizarre to me. I grew up in Cleveland and went to college at Cleveland State downtown and worked downtown. The hotel these guys are in front of is the Renaissance and the arches you see in the distance belong to the wonderful old Terminal Tower. (Higbee's used to be right there too--if you remember the scene at the beginning of A Christmas Story where the family's looking in animated Xmas windows, that's Higbee's). The Terminal Tower is where the rapid transit drops you off at Euclid Ave. It's also access to The Q and is the only reason why you're seeing so many white people and these gun idiots. It may look like whiteyville in the pic, but this is downtown and normally a group of white assholes with guns is the last thing you'd see. It's so strange for me to see so much whiteness this week on TV during the convention. Where did everyone else go?!!

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    1. Anonymous12:52 PM

      Wasn't it Trump with one of his casino deals, have an area cleaned up for some kind of opening?

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    2. Anonymous1:24 PM

      12:22 I love Cleveland, we had such a great experience visiting there several years ago. You're right, that doesn't look like the diverse city we saw. Wonderful, friendly people.

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    3. I grew up near Cleveland; thanks for the trip down memory lane. :)

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    4. Anonymous3:21 PM

      Me, too! Elyria.
      Q

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    5. Anonymous6:18 PM

      "whiteyville"? Love it!! Made me laugh.

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    6. Anonymous6:58 PM

      3:21, I had aunts and cousins in Elyria while growing up. Took the turnpike often. I loved getting the toll ready to hand to my day to pay. My great-aunt and great-uncle lived on Vassar. They were the first people I knew to have an electric garage door--I was so impressed!

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  15. ibwilliamsi12:26 PM

    How many arrest warrants do you suppose they have between them?

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    1. ...all of them, I think.

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  16. Anonymous12:27 PM

    Doesn't it ever occur to these mental midgets that if Alex Jones was onto any real government conspiracy, the government would have silenced him immediately? Hell, I wish they would anyways! Where is the evil government when you need them?

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  17. Crystal Sage12:43 PM

    I'm embarrassed to see this picture. I feel sorry for their relatives. If one of my fiends or family were in this picture, I would have to pretend that I don't know him. What possesses guys to do this?

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    1. Anonymous1:10 PM

      Total agreement 12:43. If someone in my family did this I would be horrified too. I look back at my life on this planet since 1954 and it shocks me to realize most of these idiots have enjoyed the fruits of our ancestors’ labors. What have they decided to do with their lives? Fanning the flames of ignorance by fear-mongering Fox News and conspiracy entertainers like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck produces obvious insanity in some people.

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    2. Anonymous6:04 PM

      Inbred idiots? Just a guess.

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  18. Anonymous12:53 PM

    They want this:"“Obama is standing there and there appears to be a noose draped around his neck with a knot hanging off to one side as I recall,” said Sonny Yellott."

    http://www.kgw.com/news/politics/ore-gop-house-candidate-asked-to-withdraw-over-facebook-post/276964097

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  19. As a gun(s) owner, I see these dinguses (pl. of dingus) as the problem. What a bunch of sheepdog maroons who make everything less safe, more chaotic, and the world a worse place.

    As a gun(s) owner, I call this out as petulant, immature, inherently dangerous behavior, and wouldn't trust them with a length of string, let alone a firearm on the range.

    As a gun(s) owner, I denounce this type of demonstration as comical, not even worthy of a carnival sideshow act, but with the realization they are openly carrying powerful tools around in public - as is their right, but c'mon. really?

    As a gun(s) owner, I don't feel the need to carry just to feel safe to express my political/societal opinion - I suppose I could show you pictures of my guns on my phone if you really wanted to see them, but I am confident enough to be able to speak my thoughts without the need to intimidate by wielding my guns in public.

    And. As a gun(s) owner, my identity isn't based on superfluous items I own to show off in public such as my 401k, my credit score, the car I drive, my kid's trophies, my beautiful, beautiful, smart, witty, kickass wife (whom I don't own - duh) to project or insinuate my opinion is more worthy than the next rando.

    As a gun(s) owner... hey, thats a nice G3.

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      LOL that was good.

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  20. Anonymous1:11 PM

    READ THIS! Stay Safe HRC>
    http://bluenationreview.com/explicit-calls-for-violence-against-hillary-on-the-rise/

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  21. Anonymous1:12 PM

    What happens to ammosexuals when you take their guns away? Do they curl up into a fetal position or do they throw tantrums?

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    1. Anonymous1:58 PM

      They gulp Viagra...

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      ROFLMAO

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  22. Anonymous1:21 PM

    ot
    Donald Trump has already quit?

    Donald Trump Planning To Just Let Mike Pence Run The Country, Apparently
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-mike-pence_us_578fa289e4b0f180da63defd

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    1. Anonymous1:35 PM

      NUKEUM Drumpf
      Wake up people>
      https://www.buzzfeed.com/hayesbrown/a-car-bomb-killed-a-prominent-journalist-in-ukraine?utm_term=.ko25B87KP#.mkYaJNwnq

      WTF is going on?
      http://www.politifact.com/global-news/article/2016/may/02/paul-manafort-donald-trumps-top-adviser-and-his-ti/

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    2. Anonymous6:15 PM

      An award-winning journalist working for the online investigative website Ukrayinska Pravda was killed by a car bomb in central Kiev early on Wednesday morning, in what President Petro Poroshenko said was an attempt to destabilize Ukraine.
      http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-journalist-idUSKCN1000J3

      Where I grew up car bombs were the way gangsters did it. They also did Bonnie and Clyde styled shot gun riddled cars. We saw one once walking to school in the morning before it was hauled off. It was a nice neighborhood, too. Gangsters weren't all poor.

      Don't forget John McCain's friends in Az.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Bolles

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  23. Anonymous2:00 PM

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/gop-convention-flag-burning-protest-arrests-225902

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  24. TwoBlueJays2:24 PM

    I'm from Ohio. Mercer is a little rural county n the west side of Ohio, on parallel with Marion Indiana. Anecdotally, Marion is a bastion of the midwest KKK.

    Ohio is an odd mix. Cleveland is blue and liberal. Columbus and Dayton are stereotypical midwest Ohio cities. Cincinnati, where we are, is an older city on the verge of a renaissance; we have millenials brewing beer, suburbanites riding bikes to work, and crusty old folks lamenting the end of the world through the evil medium of tattoos. Even in our urban areas, you have folks coming in from rural areas (see photo) trying out their personal version of home-grown militia, and almost always getting the side-eye or moms pulling their kids out of the way. It is not usual to see dudes with guns - it's more usual to see dudes with big trucks and a million nasty slogan stickers celebrating their guns and white supremacy. The guys in the picture are not the norm here.

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  25. Anonymous3:11 PM

    Had these gun maniacs been African American, they would have been shot to death before anyone even asked to see their identification.

    Which leads me to a similar story. Last week in a small northwest MI tourist village, a man was seen walking down the main street (St. Joseph Street) with a canvas bag over his shoulder and an AR-15 cradled in his arms. {That's the kind of weapon used to kill the policemen in Dallas.} Some 30 people were concerned enough to call 911. When a sheriff deputy finally stopped the man, walking down the highway to the next small town, the deputy deemed him to be harmless. A few minutes of conversation led the deputy to conclude that he was just a man who was annoyed that he had lost his driver's license and was carrying his weapon because the world around him is so unsafe. The deputy said that the man was only trying to get some attention, just like someone who dyes their hair pink or blue, literally the comparison made by the deputy. Well, all of the people who have gunned down groups of people over the past few years have been annoyed, frightened of the world as it is now, angry and in need of attention. This guy could well have been taking a "dry run" for all anyone knows; last week with an unloaded weapon, who knows next time. Had the man been Hispanic or African American I am absolutely sure that the whole scene would have ended differently - and tragically. Personally I think the man should have been escorted back to the county police station and talked to at length, just as I think these dangerous clowns should be escorted to the nearest police station in Cleveland. These gun nuts all need to understand that their swaggering intimidates citizens simply going about their lawful business; they are obstructing other people's basic rights. And they are making the work of the police a thousand times more difficult.
    Beaglemom

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    1. Anonymous3:27 PM

      Interesting that the black demonstrators open carrying in Dallas during the tragic BLM march did not get shot beaglemom. You are so sure that happens. They were there marching and open carrying and they did not get shot. You are so sure though.

      How did they not get shot beaglemom? Was there a mistake?

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    2. Anonymous3:35 PM

      You tell them, Beaglemom!


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    3. Anonymous3:40 PM

      Troll @3:27, they eyes of the world and the media were present for the demonstration in Dallas. I am sure that all agencies were told to avoid using deadly force.

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    4. Anonymous4:16 PM

      "Personally I think the man should have been escorted back to the county police station and talked to at length, just as I think these dangerous clowns should be escorted to the nearest police station in Cleveland."

      You can personally think whatever you want but in open carry states like Michigan and Ohio, it would be illegal for the police to detain someone for open carrying a firearm they legally own and when they aren't doing anything illegal. They can't even tell the person to take the gun home. While the Cleveland police probably checked out those guys and kept an eye on them, what they're doing is perfectly legal in Ohio. No officer's going to "escort" them into a police station. Arguing they're obstructing people rights would fall on deaf ears in Ohio because by Ohio law the rifle guys are simply going about their lawful business, too.

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    5. Anonymous3:12 AM

      Anon at 4:16 pm. What concerned me the most about the man stopped by the sheriff deputy in the village close to us is the description of why the man felt he needed to do what he was doing. It fit the profile of just about every madman who has gone on a killing spree in this country over the past decade or so. Anger, unreasonable fear and need for attention. I was also quite alarmed at the absurd comparison made by the deputy. This man no way fitted the profile of someone who dyes their hair pink or blue. These folks are making a statement, true, but not one that could have lethal effects. Remember that 30 people on the street were alarmed enough that they phoned 911.
      Beaglemom

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  26. Anonymous3:32 PM

    What are the whistles for? To call for help?

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    1. Anonymous3:54 PM

      Dog whistles. But, not DOG/dog whistles. These are the kind that alert other traitorous scum to arm themselves.

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  27. Anonymous3:42 PM

    I live in Ohio and I don't mind open carry. When I see it it's almost always a handgun. Frankly, I like being able to see that someone has a gun instead of being concealed in a purse or under a jacket. Don't be naive about how many people around you have concealed weapons when you're out and about in the world no matter where you live in the US.

    The guys carrying the AR's in Cleveland look silly, but at least they have them on straps, they're not carrying them loose. AR stands for Armalite Rifle not Assault Rifle.

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  28. Anonymous4:22 PM

    These guys have not seen over reach if Drumpf gets anywhere near the White House.

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  29. Anonymous5:57 PM

    Awww, aren't they cute? It's the tiny pee pee club.

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  30. Anonymous6:01 PM

    Looks to me like a bunch of guys that masturbate while thumbing through Guns & Ammo magazine.

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  31. Anita Winecooler6:04 PM

    These idjits need a new hobby or something.
    Cruz just spoke at the convention and said "vote your conscience" Seemed to be saying you don't have to vote Republican this time. Bwaaaaaaahhhh after bashing Hillary, and the GOP allowed it!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cuban Liberace didn't give a full throated endorsement.

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  32. Anonymous7:48 PM

    But there's a part of this story that's been overshadowed by the shocking nature of what Al Baldasaro said. That's the response from the Trump campaign. In response to Baldasaro's attack, Trump Campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks said: "We’re incredibly grateful for his support, but we don’t agree with his comments."
    I'm not sure why no one has referenced this. But this is the kind of statement one usually hears about a policy disagreement rather than a demand to murder the opposing party's nominee.
    Calls for violence or the killing of a political opponent usually spurs the other candidate to totally disavow the person in question.
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-trump-campaign-is-now-wink-winking-calls-to-murder-clinton

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  33. Anonymous11:16 AM

    PTSD VET
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/baton-rouge-cop-killer-suffered-from-ptsd-report-164715803.html?nhp=1

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  34. Anita Winecooler6:17 PM

    I had the "honor" of dealing with guys like those armed in the photo above, fortunately I'll be retiring in less than a year and it'll be someone else's problem. I live in a state that doesn't have open carry laws, I can't count how many times I've had to ask someone to secure their weapons in their trunks or glove compartment. There are days when I walk in, and my boss leaves a note "Fire so and so" I'm at the point where I'm going to either get an ulcer or get killed, but in all honesty, a lot of these guys are just harmless depending on your reaction and style. I always make sure we're not alone, and make sure that it's about work performance. I've worked for the same company since I was in college way back in the mid seventies. I don't like the way things are going with the kkk and rampant racism and killing. This company has offices in many major cities coast to coast and overseas. So far, the only weapon I've used is a cell phone.

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