Courtesy of the Chicago Tribune:
The parents of two men killed in Benghazi, Libya nearly four years ago are suing former Secretary of State and current presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, saying the attack resulted from her “reckless” handling of classified information.
The federal lawsuit, filed Monday, comes from Patricia Smith of San Diego, whose son Sean Smith was a U.S. State Department technology officer, and Charles Woods of Portland, Ore., whose son Tyrone Woods was CIA security contractor.
Four people, including Smith and Woods, died after an anti-American militia group attacked the U.S. diplomatic compound on Sept. 11, 2012.
Since then, Clinton and the question of what responsibility she may have had for those deaths prompted a two-year inquiry that revealed she had used a private email server for government business.
A yearlong FBI investigation followed, which found no grounds on which to prosecute her.
You know every time I think I have witnessed the lowest depths to which the Republican party will go to defeat Hillary Clinton I rediscover that there really is no bottom.
Manipulating grieving parents into filing a baseless lawsuit for political gain is right up there with holding a gun to a puppy's head and demanding money.
Of course more than likely this will get tossed out of court due to a lack of evidence, because there is nothing in Hillary Clinton's handling of her e-mails that has anything to do with the attack in Benghazi.
This is just another GOP fishing expedition trying to dig up more dirt on Hillary, and using these grieving parents as bait.
Simply disgusting.
I don't mean to be cold, but the media on the right continually refer to these men as "children." The mothers who spoke at the Republican Conventions lost their "children" they would keep saying. Smith was 34 and Woods 41. I think it's deliberate. They could just as easily say they lost their sons but children sounds even more tragic in a way. More manipulation by the right.
ReplyDeletethe first twenty seconds sez it all ..
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofXKLWW3SyI
Yes, and the mothers that lost their children to gun violence were called thugs. Not children, thugs. I hate the GOP. I hope they are all voted out of office cone November.
DeleteNot to mention that Smith has no standing.
DeleteThis was spoken of by one of our news anchors.
Smith was married. His WIFE is his next of kin. His mother no longer has that standing.
His WIFE does not in any way feel the same as his mother. She does not blame Hillary, Obama or the government. In fact, she wishes her mother in law would just sit down and shut the fuck up.
My guess is that the relationship was strained while the son was alive. Now it is just totally off the rails.
The Lawyers work for "Freedom works" I saw last night.
DeleteWhy aren't they suing the guy who made the video?
I hope the judge throws them all out on their asses!
To mothers and fathers their offspring, if you like that term better, are always and will always be their children. I don't care if my daughter is 43, she is still my "child" and I don't give a shit if that sits right with you or not. With so many reasons to condemn the GOP why would you be so petty as to focus on that?
DeleteFor the simple reason she is not next if kin! She must take her position in the back seat! She can voice her opinion about her son's death, but to try and sue anyone for her son's death is not her position! Her son was married and if I'm correct she's next of kin for everything! I'm a mom of two boys and I know where my place is as a mother and a son that has a wife! Mom goes to the back seat!
DeleteI hope the lawsuits are quickly dismissed. But no doubt the headlines about them will keep on circulating, which is just what the Republicans want -- and encourage. And mountains of spin will flow forth, crying that the judge on Hillary's payroll, or other such bullsh*t.
ReplyDeleteThis suit is a giant waste of time -- both of their sons have surviving spouses, who would be the only people with standing to bring a wrongful death lawsuit -- the parents do not have a valid claim here based on that alone. And the nut job lawyer who brought the suit -- Klayman -- has sued the Clintons numerous times and should have been disbarred long ago.
ReplyDeleteEven assuming that the parents are the proper parties to bring a claim against Mrs. Clinton - and they most emphatically are not - she has absolute immunity for common law torts committed while she was acting within the scope of her office as Secretary of State. The Federal Tort Claims Act is the exclusive remedy for common law torts that might be alleged against her. And the lawsuit, as filed, is not an FTCA claim. Plus, the statute of limitations of two years has long since run. This claim should be booted immediately. And the layer that filed it should be Rule 11-sanctioned.
DeleteI'll bet Trump is behind this! The filings will go nowhere and Hillary Clinton is NOT to blame! I'm sick to death of hearing about this issue!
ReplyDeleteVote Hillary Clinton! I can hardly wait to do so!
More disgusting behavior and grifting from the Trumps and his surrogates
ReplyDeletehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/08/watch-donald-trump-say-thank-you-as-a-crowd-cheers-him-for-a-20-million-gift-to-charity-does-that-gift-even-exist/
I see the GOP's dirty hands all over this. Republicans in Congress know that there was nothing Hillary Clinton could have done about the attack in Benghazi; the GOP's years of witch hunt committees ended in utter failure. They also know that there is nothing in their contrived e-mail scandal. So now they'll attach themselves to the grieving parents of two of the men who died at Benghazi. How callous they are. How cruel.
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Beagle mom
The sad thing is the spouses have tried to stay out of it, but the Democrats will try to convince them to enter the fray to oppose their parents in law in the court of public opinion and the media. So not only will it be a political battle, it will also tear two families apart.
Deletehttp://crooksandliars.com/2016/08/fox-news-judge-napolitano-explains-why
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WTF?
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They are still using the T FUCKing the P LoGo!
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The dude in the Red Shirt behind dRumpf got the implication, just LOOK at his reaction, then he SMILES.
DeleteIt is ABOMINABLE!
Good ol' Mr. "I don't know." His way of dodging responsibility.
DeleteI can picture the FBI interrogation now:
"Did I threaten Clinton? YOU TELL ME."
And the Secret Service warned him about this exact inflammatory rhetoric just THREE WEEKS ago.
It isn't called the power of unification. It's called soliciting assassination of the president of the United States.
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Republicans always always always play dirty. In every election, they've gone as low as is humanly possible to smear the Democratic candidate. This is nothing new - other than a new low for them to use grieving parents to achieve political ends. If you can't win legally, go low or fudge the district boundaries. Republicans DESERVE Donald Trump - he is them.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 11:59 AM wrote: Republicans DESERVE Donald Trump - he is them.
DeleteAs winner of their primary——NO MORE!!!
The anti-Hillary mill room is getting desperate. They must have their people in that hot, dark little room just going over and over, on how to bring Hillary down. You know they are cursing Donald for making them work extra hard. If he didn't open his big mouth they wouldn't have to go this route but it's gotta be done. And these people are no strangers on how to desperately claw at Hillary's heels. One day people will look back and see the Republicans for what they are. A bunch of crazed misogynistic bunch of men who tried to keep America women down on their knees.
ReplyDeleteAs far as I'm concerned, Republicans have proven themselves to be the 'scum of the earth' since prior to the election of President Obama THE FIRST TIME!
DeleteWe all now know they are racist, liars, frauds and will tell any story they can dream up to try and defeat Hillary Clinton in her run for POTUS!
Plus, they supported and put Donald Trump in the position of running for POTUS and now they are embarrassed by him and throwing all the blame at him vs themselves.
Vote out Republicans in the U.S.Congress that are up for reelection and in the Alaska State Legislature! We need a major change very, very badly!
And, vote for Hillary Clinton! She will make an outstanding POTUS and is ready to step into the leadership of our country after President Obama has completed his second term!
And - President Obama has done one heck of a job standing up to the Republicans and beating them in many, many instances! His actions against them have been a pleasure to watch!
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ReplyDeleteA very good article (link below) – soothing to the soul during this election season - something positive to focus on and we can all use a break from the constant garbage that comes out of don the con's mouth...
Coming This Fall: The Sublime Revenge Of Barack Obama
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-north-patterson/coming-this-fall-the-subl_b_10925030.html?
And a lawsuit for Cheney/Bush?
ReplyDeleteEvery man and woman who signed up in service to the country and was then killed or maimed could file suit against Bush/Cheney.
DeleteDid you see the lawyer that filed it? Klayman. It'll go nowhere fast.
ReplyDeleteThen people should get in line to sue George Bush and Condi Rice for September 11. They did not follow up after the warning that Bin Laden was going to attack. The, people should sue Rumsfeld because he did not provide the troops with safe vehicles. Instead, they were easily blown up, and there both injuries and deaths. While we are at it, sue Bush and Cheney for starting that war. Iraq did not attack us.
ReplyDeleteDitto that... and hope some major media spews it on the news... as IF
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ReplyDeleteYou are probably aware of this by now -
At a talk Trump gave today he discussed Clinton appointing Supreme Court Judges. His solution to that was perhaps some second amendment people could take care of that. It is just now hitting all of the news sites.
Pat Padrnos
Wanna bet Trump is funneling the money to them for attorneys.
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ReplyDeleteTrump has thrown out the idea of a "2nd Amendment" remedy for Hillary and Supreme Court nominees if she get elected and nominates Supreme Court justices. Wow!
I must be the only person that doesn’t believe Patti Smith is being manipulated. She sure stopped crying at the RNC when she started spewing her venom "Hillary for Prison". I think those were crocodile tears. She is out for revenge and money. Her performance was disgusting.
ReplyDeleteThey are suing for defamation? Defamation of what?
Also when you sign up for a position at the State Dept in Libya, I believe you are well informed of the risks.
It is also a well know fact that Ambassador Stevens took many risks going out “among” the people, even when it wasn’t safe.
sean smith. A contractor, He completed his military service in 2002. (not a soldier) was gaming during the attack. Quote>
Delete"Assuming we don't die tonight. We saw one of our 'police' that guard the compound taking pictures."
O/T Another Traitor Trump Joke: hope the secret service pays him a call and scares the crap out of him!!!
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Trump Just Told His Supporters That Assassinating Hillary Clinton Is An Option
Trump said, “By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks. Although, the Second Amendment people maybe there is. I don’t know.”
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/09/trump-urges-supporters-shoot-hillary-clinton-stop-supreme-court-picks.html
Smith comes across as a very ugly person, both inside and out. I'm a mother so I grieve her loss, however I would never, ever politicize my child's death. She clearly has issues...my guess is she was a difficult mother for her children and if her son were alive he would tell her to stuff a sock in it.
ReplyDeleteI suspect the son chose his wife over his mother and that caused a rift. After he was dead, it only got worse.
DeleteThe wife doesn't blame Clinton, Obama or the government and has been trying to stay out of it. Of course, now she may be forced to come forward and make a statement to that effect to the media.
Sean Smith was Patricia Smith's only child. Sean's widow as next of kin has legal authority with the Dept. of State, not his mother.
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O/T Another Traitor Trump Joke: hope the secret service pays him a call and scares the crap out of him!!!
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Trump Just Told His Supporters That Assassinating Hillary Clinton Is An Option
Trump said, “By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks. Although, the Second Amendment people maybe there is. I don’t know.”
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/09/trump-urges-supporters-shoot-hillary-clinton-stop-supreme-court-picks.html
From what I've read it's the second time he's brought assassination up recently. And Trump was supposedly action saner now; he's worse than ever.
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After Trump adviser Al Baldasaro told a radio host that Clinton “should be put in the firing line and shot for treason, CNN reported on July 20th, “The US Secret Service is investigating an informal adviser to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign after he called for Hillary Clinton’s execution.”
DeleteDonald Trump didn’t distance himself from Baldarsaro. Rather, he praised him
If this lawsuit is considered valid (it is not), then all the parents of "children" lost in Bush's wars can sue him Chaney, Rumsfeld, et al.
ReplyDeleteAnd the families of all of the Americans killed in embassy/consulate attacks during the Bush administration.
DeleteBeaglemom
Seems to me there is a law that you can't sue the government or someone in office like the president etc for "doing their job".
DeleteTrump's university case will be going on this fall. Someone wante one against Hillary at the same time, looks like.
ReplyDeleteTrump will delay that Court case as long as he can (in the fall). Probably will actually be winter before it gets going - knowing how the asshole plays the system!
DeleteThe Trump U case will be decided after the election. In a just world, the RICO case reams him for 150 million.
DeleteThe woman is grieving, yes, but she's also not all there--anyone can see when watching her that she surely wasn't all there even before her son died. And she's crying defamation yet what she said about Hillary during the convention was fine? if Hillary were not running for any office, she could just as easily sue her.
ReplyDeleteThis woman also acts as though her very grown son--who was living in the Hague and was married with children, and they had lived in the Netherlands and South Africa and at least one other country--was always home at night in her house to feed and tuck in bed. She never mentions his wife Heather. This mother says she wants to send her son's ashes into outer space. She speaks like she has that right. No, lady, Heather was the one who was considered immediate family (it drives the mother mad) and she will decide if something more should be done with her husband's ashes.
Larry Klayman is a bottom-feeding nut-case who has been trolling the Clintons and President Obama for years. This is likely his idea. Regardless of their own political biases, or emotional states, the grieving parents are being played as pawns.
ReplyDeleteHoly shat! Donald did what Palin did to Gabrielle Giffords. He put out a subliminal message to his crazies sounding like an assassination order. Isn't that what Palin did back then? Geez, up the security on Hillary and take that fucking Donald off to an asylum. He's lost his mind completely.
ReplyDeleteDonald might be surprised to learn that there are many folks in the country that would love to see him no longer a part of this earth!
DeleteI would think the FBI could go after him on this - instigating the assassination of Hillary Clinton!
His soul is going to rest in Hell - as is that of Sarah Palin's!
I wonder if this is the last straw and the leadership in the GOP will force him to step down owing to "sudden health issues and spending more time with his family."
DeleteLinks to two stories on Pat Smith. Both touch on wife Heather and on the mother's thinking that she, as Sean's mother,is the important woman grieving and with rights. Since some memorials and fundraisers a few years ago, Heather has lived her live and not been involved in this stuff that Patricia Smith keeps doing. She was pleased with the investigation back then and has not said anything to the contrary since.
ReplyDeleteThe mother lost her son four years ago and clearly needs to get some therapy. Seriously, she has considered selling her house to raise funds for sending her son's ashes into outer space. She barely acknowledges the wife (she mentions her in one article here but I have seen countless articles with no mention) and speaks as if she is Sean's most immediate family but then there's a quote that Sean had not been hers for a long time. She's angry and in pain and it is going to go on forever. Yes she will grieve forever, but her way of handling things is so unhealthy.
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Sean-Smith-Clairemont-Libya-Attack-Consulate-Vile-Rat-170258086.html
https://bonnierussell.wordpress.com/2016/07/19/would-sean-smith-be-proud-of-his-mother-patricia-smith/
This mother needs to spend her time in therapy, not court.
ReplyDeleteAmen to that!
DeleteI work for the Federal government. A government employee basically cannot be sued for doing their job.
ReplyDeleteThat is what I thought!!
DeleteAlso if Patti Smith thought this was so important why didn't she do it FOUR YEARS ago?
Donald Trump Suggests Shooting Hillary Clinton, Her Supreme Court Picks, Or Both
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-clinton-shoot_us_57aa2f6de4b0ba7ed23dd652?vvtsl5nxgzmyujtt9
If it is true that this woman was not Sean's biological mother where is his real mother? Since he had a wife, why does SHE think she can send his ashes into space, or is this just a way to get OPs money.
ReplyDeletePlease. Ever heard of adoption?
DeleteHe has wife and this woman did not give birth to him. He was not adopted. idiot!
DeleteDarla take your angry meds hon.
Delete@8:29AM, take your fuck-off meds hon.
DeletePay attention to who pays her legal fees.
ReplyDeleteIf that information is available, you bet I will!
DeleteThe lawyer is Larry Klayman and he's a total Trump devotee. He's out there accusing people of assassinating the character of Trump and says that if Trump wins then Obama, because of recent remarks, should be found guilty of undercutting Trump and putting the country in danger. He calls Obama Muslim King and is a birther. He's called judges' ethnicity it question. It goes on and on. He has a history of filing lawsuits against Bill Clinton. there's so much you can read about him online. The new case is at the link below. They are demanding a jury trial for misc. damages. I'm also pasting in one article on Klayman
ReplyDeletehttp://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/160808-Final%20Complaint%20.pdf
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/larry-klayman-traitor-obama-would-have-been-impeached-now-if-he-werent-black
ReplyDeleteEven Fox's on set lawyer says the case won't go anywhere:
http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/08/09/even-fox-news-admits-new-benghazi-lawsuit-against-clinton-intended-inflict-much-political-damage/212257
This will get tossed as soon as Clinton's lawyers put a motion to dismiss in front of a judge.
ReplyDeleteShe has blanket immunity as SoS.
And didn't Trump also misspeak recently when he said "Titties like Detroit...?" Shows where his mind is, like his pointing at Melanoma's breasts after she gave her plagiarized speech at the RNC and when he groped his own daughter after hers.
ReplyDeleteHe has also defended Roger Ailes as a "good man."
ReplyDeleteElizabeth Warren Slams Donald Trump as a Two-Bit Dictator Who Can’t Stand Losing to a Girl
Donald Trump is a coward who makes death threats because he can't handle losing to a girl. So says Senator Elizabeth Warren, the Democrat from Massachusetts, who seems to know just how to get under Donald Trump's very thin skin.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/09/elizabeth-warren-destroys-trump.html
FBI Contacted As Trump Could Face Criminal Charges For Violent Threat Against Clinton
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Hey parents how about guiding your kids towards jobs that don't happen in countries that are combatants against the US? Hmm? How about leading them to a career that allowed them to work full time in the good old USA? Your kids went willingly to a country that is hostile towards the US.
ReplyDeleteFFS. Your kids would probably so ashamed of you right now.
Many serve their country proudly; it's not for everyone. They KNOW their lives may be at risk. It will be thrown out of court, and not by left-leaning judges. These people need counseling; not a fat bank account.
DeleteNot to make fun of their loss and grief, and I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think they have a leg to stand on. To quote Rummy "Every one of those soldiers raised their hands and said "pick me"". While defending Bush's illegal wars. Was Hillary the one who sent anyone to work in that embassy? Isn't that on the Commander in Chief's job description? And where was the money the GOP refused to beef up the security in BenGazi????
ReplyDeleteWhat do these parents think when their child enlists . Do they really think the US can protect them at all times?
ReplyDeleteThis is a mother who has not come to terms that war is hell and not everyone comes out alive or unscathed . I am so sick of this.
I am so sick of war being glorified. She lost her son and the grief she feels is no doubt real. That women is hurting but when you sign up their is no gaurantie that you will be coming home.
That is reality.Hillary Clinton did not force her son to sign up.
My Father was a World War Two vet. Do you have any idea how many planes were shot down by mistake. Yes it happened should we sue? or should we just realize that is the price you pay in war and war is never fair . Sulpha was tested on the World War Two vets before it was given to the general public.
My Dad saw a man who had such an allergic reaction he jumped ship. When you sign up you give all.
I am a mother. I grieve with these mothers for the loss of their sons. But if every parent sued the US Govt when they lost a son or daughter while in service to America, there would be millions of law suits. That also means that the relatives all 62 diplomatic persons who died while deployed under GW Bush's administration would have legal recourse too. Most public servants sign papers acknowledging the dangers, as my father did when he joined the USAF. At that point the US Govt and the volunteer/employee enters into an agreement not to hold the US Govt responsible for events which it cannot control. I would ask instead why the Congress refused to allocate additional funds for Embassy safety. If you want to place blame, start there.
ReplyDeletethey should sue Sarah for funding that film!
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