Courtesy of CNN:The full back and forth between Hillary Clinton and Colin Powell is here. And wow. pic.twitter.com/jHKpEbTS8W— Matt Viser (@mviser) September 7, 2016
Former Secretary of State Colin Powell told his successor, Hillary Clinton, that he used his own personal computer to communicate with friends and foreign leaders and sent emails without going through the State Department server, according to emails released Wednesday by congressional Democrats.
Clinton has previously said she reached out to Powell when she began serving as the nation's top diplomat to find out how he used personal devices. In a four-paragraph email response from Powell, he told Clinton he didn't use a BlackBerry, but detailed how he got around having his communications with both employees and people outside the State Department becoming part of the agency's official record.
"What I did do was have a personal computer that was hooked up to a private phone line (sounds ancient). So I could communicate with a wide range of friends directly without it going through the State Department on their personal email accounts. I did the same thing on the road in hotels," Powell wrote.
Powell also admitted that he conducted business with foreign leaders on his private e-mail account, and warned Clinton to keep her Blackberry use private so that it would not be considered part of the official record.
Gee that does not sound like Colin Powell's version of events at all now does it?
Staying with Clinton's e-mail kerfuffle, FBI Director James Comey also just released a memo defending his decision not to prosecute and his decision to make the FBI notes public:
"We don't play games," the FBI director said as he further defended his decision not to recommend charges in the matter.
"[D]espite all the chest-beating by people no longer in government, there really wasn't a prosecutable case," Comey wrote in the message obtained by ABC News. "The hard part was whether to offer unprecedented transparency about our thinking."
"I'm okay if folks have a different view of the investigation (although I struggle to see how they actually could, especially when they didn't do the investigation), or about the wisdom of announcing it as we did (although even with hindsight I think that was the best course)," Comey said. "[B]ut I have no patience for suggestions that we conducted ourselves as anything but what we are -- honest, competent, and independent. Those suggesting that we are 'political' or part of some 'fix' either don't know us, or they are full of baloney (and maybe some of both)."
Comey told his employees they “may be sick” of hearing about the Clinton email probe, and he ended his message by saying, “I will try not to bother you with this any longer.”
Last night during the Commander-in-Chief forum Hillary also stated once again that she did not send nor receive any e-mails with the official markings of a confidential document.
And whether the Right Wing likes that or not it is supported by the FBI's investigation.
OT>Can you say "NATIONAL SECURITY RISK"?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-veterans_us_57d16e09e4b03d2d4598a87f?auxtdibl9qqia4i
Oh they all find a way. But the way people slam some and forgive others creates a problem.
ReplyDeleteSo where are the multiple investigations over Colin Powell's email use? Oh, that's right...he's a republican.
ReplyDeleteAlso a man.
DeleteHe's not running for office.
DeleteSo the wingers have insulted the military and Defense Department (Trump's CIC softball interview last night) and the FBI, who is next the NSA, CIA, etc?
ReplyDeleteFor the record, Matt Lauer is a pig.
DeleteWingers (good moniker) hate all government departments they are not in completely charge of.
DeleteThey still hate the GOP-majority Congress because it can't deliver the alt-right demands to stop every single friggin' thing Obama tries to do.
He still accomplished so much.
Makes them spitting mad.
It will only get worse if Hillary is elected. So-long-thwarted rigid men and women can be dangerous beasts.
@9:47 You got THAT Right.
DeleteMatt Lauer was simply way out of his league. He was trying to build "serious news cred" but showed that he's really only up to interviewing giant balloons at Thanksgiving.
DeleteI just got goosebumps listening to Hillary Clinton's Charlottesville North Carolina speech.
ReplyDeleteHillary brought up how Trump talked about killing terrorist families.
Then Hillary talked about the Bin Laden mission and brought up when one of our helicopters was damaged in Bin Laden's compound and had to be blown up, our soldiers gathered the women and children (terrorist families) in the compound and moved them a safe distance away from the helicopter they were about to blow up so they wouldn't be killed or hurt.
Hillary showed how our soldiers did the opposite of what Trump would have done which was to kill terrorist families.
THAT..
Deleteis wonderful and makes ME PROUD of who our SOLDIERS REALLY are.
Comey and the State Dept say some of the emails contained information that was classified at the time whether they were marked or not. So I don't believe she's helping herself claiming no emails were "marked" as classified. She makes it sound like if they weren't marked, they weren't classified and that is untrue. She's leaving herself open to the question that maybe she couldn't recognize classified information if it wasn't marked. And that would be a bad thing for aSec of State not to be able to recognize when something she's reading is or isn't classified. If she can't, she's not as knowledgeable as she claims.
ReplyDelete"She makes it sound like if they weren't marked, they weren't classified and that is untrue."
DeleteThat is true, dumbass. They were classified after the fact.
@9:50 AM Are you reading from Sean Hannity's transcripts? Good luck with that. Throw your vote away on Donald Trump the rapist and non-payment scam artist.
DeleteI worked with classified documents as an aerospace engineer. They were clearly marked as so. Not marked, assumed not classified.
DeleteNo, 10:34, they were not all classified after the fact.
DeleteComey said in his July 5 statement, "From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received."
So that makes you the dumbass, dumbass. Read the statement for yourself and inform yourself.
https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system
11:19 - I'll give you an example from the emails that shows what you've written is untrue.
DeleteSome of the emails the FBi recovered from Clinton's server were between diplomats in Pakistan and DC and contained references to planned drone strikes, emails that were forwarded to Clinton's personal email account by her staff. Drone strikes are classified information. The emails weren't marked. The information in the messages was nonetheless classified. Not being marked didn't make the information unclassified. That is one of the points the FBI made about carelessness and that there may be consequences - loss of security clearance, disqualification from getting a security clearance - for individuals involved. And that diplomats and staff, including the Sec of State, should have the knowledge to recognize classified information whether it's marked or not.
"...Hillary also stated once again that she did not send nor receive any e-mails with the official markings of a confidential document... it is supported by the FBI's investigation."
ReplyDeleteThat's incorrect. FBI just showed us an email from her private server that was marked (C) for Confidential which is a classified marking.
FBI hasn't said she received or sent NO emails with classified markings. They've only said that there were emails on her server that contained information that was classified at the time.
The FBI said there were only three e-mails with a "C" in the body of the message, and none with the official classified markings in the header.
DeleteAnd none of those three were sent, or forwarded, by Hillary.
And once again the entire argument is moot because there is no evidence that her server was ever hacked, while there IS evidence that the State Department e-mail server was hacked.
If our enemies retrieved secrets from hacked e-mails those came from the White House, the State Department, the FBI, or the NSA. NOT from Hillary's oh so "vulnerable" e-mail server.
FBI Director Admits Hillary Clinton Emails Were Not Properly Marked Classified
Deleteby Tommy Christopher | 2:21 pm, July 7th, 2016 VIDEO 244
Hillary Clinton‘s political and media critics jumped all over a key portion of FBI Director James Comey‘s lengthy statement on the investigation into email practices at the State Department in which Comey said that a “very small number” of emails sent or received by Secretary Clinton “bore markings indicating the presence of classified information” as evidence that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton lied when she said she hadn’t sent or received material that was marked classified.
At a Congressional hearing Thursday morning, however, Comey admitted that the three emails to which he was referring were not, in fact, properly marked as classified, and that even a person with reasonable expertise in identifying classified material could make the “reasonable inference” that these emails were not classified:
@10:09 AM Is English your second language? Do you need a Palinese interpreter to help you to understand? Obviously you have been reading Palin's word salad as a news source.
Delete"The FBI said there were only three e-mails with a "C" in the body of the message"
DeleteWell, no, Gryphen, that's not what the FBI has said either. The FBI has said there were emails with "C" markings. The FBI has said at least 3 mails contained information that was classified at the time.
Back to my point: "C" is a classified marking. 3 is a quantity more than zero. So the statement, "She did not send nor receive any e-mails with the official markings of a confidential document" isn't accurate. I don't think you deliberately wrote something that's untrue.
!0:09 and 11:52
DeleteYou must have gotten relieved of your place on the debate squad. At least once or twice.
I know. I know. Trump does it.
Actually laurensd1, I'm right to point out where Gryphen is mistaken. He's not helping Clinton by misreporting the facts about her email. In fact a lot of Clinton's problem right now results from when her fans and surrogates have misrepresented the facts about the emails, whether intentionally or unintentionally. She has admitted it was a mistake. Take her word for it. Insisting it wasn't after she's said it was a mistake doesn't help her. Crowing that it may actually a good thing because the State department system got hacking and the FBI found no evidence hers was doesn't help her. Claiming absence of evidence is evidence is illogical. Not helping.
DeleteTrump has made ignoring evidence and facts, and baldfaced lying about everything so commonplace, that even people with nothing to gain, are following his lead.
ReplyDeleteYes, we have entered the Trumpian Era -- Unaccountablity, Unethicality, & Lying Pigdom.
DeleteWe can only hope his losing the election (resoundingly) will wipe it out.
But I actually heard a teenager say, "It's not cheating if you don't get caught." wow
Joining the Clintonian era where "It didn't violate the law/ the FBI didn't refer for prosecution" equals "nobody did anything wrong."
DeleteO/T: I'm listening to Trump live speech. When he wants to sound "presidential" he lowers his voice like he's whispering just to you. Why does he always sound like a pedophile uncle offering little children candy?
ReplyDeleteHRC is a woman so is there no fairness for females? Not yet it seems if you look at both sides.
ReplyDeleteWhen ignorance is noted with Drumpf followers, make sure you also realize that Drumpf red states are THE states that get MORE federal aid than they pay in taxes. Can you say uneducated, non-productive followers of the Teapeers, Rethugs and possible serial rapist Drumpf? (3 recorded cases naming him)
http://fusion.net/story/328522/donald-trump-accused-rape-sexual-assault/
How stupid does someone have to be to vote for this piece of shit or to re-interpret his statements in order to clean them up?
Not stupid, just racist.
DeleteSuspect a lot of his support is a vote against Democratic Hillary and Obama's "regime".
Delete1 out of every 3 Trump supporters is as stupid as the other 2.
DeleteWhat about petrayus? or snowden? were those classified documents?
ReplyDeleteWhat about all of the documents destroyed ILLEGALLY by the Bush administration, on behalf of Bush and Cheney, when they left office? Those documents belong to the Federal government but Bush and Cheney thought nothing of destroying them all. I suspect there was lots of information in them connecting Cheney's secret energy meetings in 2001 with subsequent events in the Middle East, otherwise there would have been no reason for the document destruction. No fuss was made at all by the media.
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Don's briefing. Don you are a liar and tax dodger.....Flynn....no no no.....Christie....shut up.....shut up....and DON? you are a threat to the world. Flynn? no no no .....Christie.....shut up Flynn....rump pootin.....Im so great.
ReplyDeleteThe press will hound her like the dirty lucre seeking dogs they are. They will MAKE UP stories to make her look bad. Just to sell their tripe.
ReplyDeleteThis early a blowout election won;t sell their stories. No such thing as journalism anymore.
Hillary appears ill. Wondering if she will drop out before the election.
ReplyDeleteHey Trump how's it going?
DeleteI think Hillary’s first mistake was asking that liar Powell for advice in the first place.
ReplyDeleteAnd still on MSNBC they were excusing Powell and still criticizing Clinton unreal
ReplyDeleteSo what is it, Colin? You denied and denied and denied, and now there it is in black and white. And I felt empathy for you when Bush threw you under the bus and lied to the american people for George Bush the second.
ReplyDeleteColin Powell - black Secretary of State teaching another Secretary of State on how to hide incriminating emails
ReplyDeleteBarack Obama - no good black president.
Bill Clinton - black president who stuck a seegar up a white woman's love cave
Can't trust black people in political office
Hey everybody, it's $arah under that sheet!
DeleteAll of a sudden there are some Trump trolls showing up. Hmm. Are they the same one or ones who troll when the subject is about the Palins? Annoying as they are they do not usually sink to the depth of Anon at 4:18 pm.
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Agreed, Beaglemom. And 4:18 spent some minutes typing out that pile of crap. Must be worried about something or why would Gryphen's post garner such interest from a troll?
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