So in the wake of that video showing Hillary Clinton on the verge of collapse on 9-11, the health of both candidates has been on the forefront of everybody's mind.
In response Hillary has released this letter from her doctor:
The letter appears to be fairly standard with an overall healthy assessment, but also mention of an ongoing hypothyroidism concerns, a sinus and ear infection, and of course the pneumonia.
On the other hand Trump has been a little evasive with his his health records, and instead went on the Dr. Oz show to share a letter from the same doctor who declared that he would be the healthiest individual ever elected president.
Here is Politico's reporting on that letter:
Bernstein’s note released on Thursday was more restrained. It reveals that Trump takes a cholesterol-lowering drug (rosuvastatin) and a low-dose aspirin in addition to reiterating that his only hospitalization was for an appendectomy at the age of 11. Trump is 6-foot-3, weighing 236 pounds, placing him in the upper bound of what is considered "overweight" by the National Institutes of Health Body Mass Index calculator.
Bornstein wrote that Trump’s test showed a cholesterol level of 169, HDL cholesterol 63, LDL cholesterol 94, triglycerides 61, PSA 0.15, blood pressure 116/70, blood sugar 99 and C Reactive Protein UQ 0.7.
Bornstein reported Trump’s liver and thyroid function tests as “all within the normal range,” with an annual physical exam taking place every spring. Trump’s last colonoscopy was on July 10, 2013, according to the note, and it was normal and “revealed no polyps.” His calcium score was 98 in 2013. An EKG and chest X-ray conducted on April 14 of this year showed “normal” results, Bernstein added, going on to note that Trump received a transthroacic echocardiogram on Dec. 16, 2014 that “was reported within the range of normal.”
Trump’s testosterone level is 441.6, according to the report, which also states that his family has no history of premature cardiac or neoplastic disease, nor does the candidate use tobacco or alcohol.
“In summary, Mr. Trump is in excellent physical health,” Bornstein wrote in the note dated Wednesday, released in conjunction with the airing of Trump's appearance on "The Dr. Oz Show," also taped Wednesday in New York.
First off I have to admit that I am somewhat skeptical of anything that this doctor writes in a letter for Trump, based mostly on the ridiculous letter from before.
Now it was previously reported by some members of the audience that Trump's weight was 267 lbs. However I heard the exchange between Trump and Dr. Oz and he clearly said 236 lbs. which I find almost impossible to believe.
In my opinion, as somebody who used to do personal training, Trump is packing at the very least 250 to 260 pounds on his frame, and what is more he clearly does not engage in any physical fitness regime, which also makes me doubt the validity of the other numbers on this letter. (Trump literally suggested that he gets exercise giving speeches and using hand gestures. I am not making that up.)
I think for me the main reason I have trouble accepting the validity of this letter concerning Trump's health is due to the almost overwhelming number of times Trump has been caught lying.
So do I think that Trump is lying about his health? Yes.
Do I think that Hillary might be fudging some of her health issues in order to win this election? It's possible.
However the next question I have to ask myself is if something terrible were to befall either person should they win the White House, whose running mate am I more comfortable with taking over.
Tim Kaine?
Or Mike Pence?
Oh yeah, I don't care if Hillary has terminal cancer in every pore of her body and only minutes to live after her swearing in ceremony, I would still rather have the country in the hands of the affable Tim Kaine and the Democratic party than in the hands of the Russian Winter Soldier, or his pal Mike "Cotton Mather" Pence.
So in my opinion this whole health debate is no longer even an issue.
tRump, as usual is hiding something. My vet has given a more detailed health report of my dog, than that "report" from tRump's whacko doctor. Dr. Oz just confirmed his reputation as a fake with that so-called interview with tRump.
ReplyDeleteI am so sick of this motherfucker I hope he drops dead from a heart attack on live TV!
DeleteYes he is hiding something! Drugs! When he "projected" that Hillary was being given inj of something it is HIM! Last week when he had his "Drs appt" the GOP said he was "more presidential" and it was b/c he was off the shit, oxycondin!
In fact he was still having the shakes yesterday when the pastor told him to STFU and now he is back to his nasty drugged up self.
Yes he is hiding major health shit.
And he is hiding the fact that he get a inj in that fat fucking ass of his of some hillbilly heroin!
Why the heck is a gastroenterologist his 'primary' doctor??????????
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DeleteWhy the heck is a gastroenterologist his 'primary' doctor??????????
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He's the one who took the bribe! See last week his wife very protectively kicked out any news. They should look into his taxes and stuff also!
Trump prob needed a new supply of oxy.
"Do I think that Hillary might be fudging some of her health issues in order to win this election? It's possible."
DeleteOne more seizure moment, one more stumble, one faint, one episode of anything caught on camera again, and Hillary is done in this election.
He is on a statin drug which at his age indicates a blocking of major arteries. Dr's do not put you on a statin category drug just because you reach age 70, they only do it when there is a medical need.
DeleteYep! And with his eating habits, it will only get worse. Statins long term cause liver damage.
DeleteI don't believe the 0.15 PSA. EVERY man over 60 has a prostate that is at least slightly enlarged. As the prostate gland enlarges, it secretes more PSA, thereby driving up the PSA level. It's not that Trump has an enlarged prostate, it's that, at his age, his PSA should be higher.
ReplyDeleteWith our increasing life spans it is very certain that most men will develop prostate cancer in their lifetime.
DeleteNot to mention that Bald ass dome is a dead giveaway!
DeleteHe's lying.
That Dr. is paid off in weed to put whatever trump wants.
I don't believe a word of it!
Another thing he's lying about is his height. He is not 6'3", I doubt he's even 6' even. I stood for over 5 minutes right next to him one day years ago while attending an event when he was married to Marla Maples. He is not 6'3"! Plus, during the debates he stood next to Jeb Bush, who is a tall guy at 6'3" or 6'4". He cannot even stop lying about something as easily debunked as his height! I'm starting to think he's not hooked up right!
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Is Trump taller than Barack Obama (6'1)? I don't think so.
DeleteObama looks taller, too, because he's lean and athletic.
DeleteTrump -- a hugely overweight pig of a man.
We don't hear cat calls about Obama playing golf anymore, do we? I doubt Trump could actually last 18 holes, and he certainly couldn't walk a course. He's a lazy bum.
We don't hear cat calls about Obama playing golf anymore, do we?
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I noticed that also! The poser have suddenly decided its ok b/c fat slob does it.
My father is 70 and he still golfs around the east coast on a senior tour and even though he is a Republican he agrees that Trump is a poser when it comes to his golfing prowess.
DeleteJeb is 6'3" Look at this pic. They are all against the desk - T.Rump is clearly an inch shorter two + if you don't count the orange rat's nest.
DeleteLike drumpt handlers declared. He is a lair. He lies about everything. He falsified his results. What lab? and where are the original copies of the results? He simply lies about his victims and the pending lawsuits. His children lie for him and about him, his butler lies and next his grandchild. It is a very un-American family of global kind. A mess and Not a good fit for America.
ReplyDelete99 is on the border. A little higher and he's pre-diabetic.
ReplyDeleteI also question why Trump is taking aspirin daily if he's never had any conditions or indications of an impending heart attack or stroke. You don't just take aspirin for the hell of it.
Speeches and hand gestures? That's not exercise.
And I would have said more like 280 but what do I know.
BTW I read a rumor on the internet (maybe here?) that Trump wears a corset. That's why the baggy suit coat he never takes off and never buttons and why the very long and wide ties that he must have special made since no off the rack ties would hang that low on a 6 foot frame.
I do congratulate him on not smoking or drinking. See, I can find something nice to say about him. But that's the only thing.
Calvin Trillin has a funny/not-so-funny essay in this week's New Yorker speculating on a corset.
DeleteThe neck ties cover the guy's crotch. He's an obese, spray-tanned comb-over fast-food addict who no one would look at twice if he didn't have money and wasn't 100% a nasty bully.
That's right - he admits to eating fast food all the time 'because like that, I know what's in the food' - yeah, RIGHT! In reasonably priced restaurants, you get way better and fresher ingredients, and way less chemical ingredients.
Deleteand with only eating fast food. he has such a great BP and cholesterol and such?!
yeah, and I have a bridge to nowhere to sell!
Shows how supportive he'll be of small businesses.
DeleteLook at President Obama. He goes to a new area of the country - he goes to the local restaurant and orders whatever they are known for. Adventurous palate.
T.Rump? He has the palate of a two year old "picky eater." AKA BIG pain in the ass.
Tim Kaine has everything one would like to have in a president, although he doesn't have the charisma to have aspired to run for that office. Powered through college in three years? Check. Harvard Law School grad? Check. Lifelong commitment to social justice? Check. Grounded in reality? Plays a mean harmonica? Check.
ReplyDeleteWe could do well with a Tim Kaine as President.
Mike Pence, on the other hand, is a far right-wing tool. Not too bright, slippery, malleable. There are thousands more qualified and more in tune with the country's needs.
I have always thought Pence looked German - can actually visualize him wearing the Nazi uniform! The role fits him perfectly! Especially with he and Trump being proven racists! (Fact proven, folks!)
ReplyDeleteVote for Hillary Clinton and continue the saving of our country!
Trump and Pence would be dictators - with police and National Guard doing bloody deeds at the very 'hint' of a demonstration or uprising that included blacks, browns, Asians or Jews!
Plus, Trump has already said he'd close down our press/media when anything negative was said about him. He's been doing it for the past year (proven again) with his banning of various journalists and news/media outlets at his gatherings.
Trump, Pence and the Republican party are frightening as Hell!
Pence is a dead ringer for the albino villain in "Foul Play." Old Chevy Chase/Goldie Hawn movie.
DeleteI've had the same impression of Pence. He looks so incredibly uptight with the stranglehold shirts and ties. Does not seem to have any personality at all. What a dullard.
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Trump is shorter than Jeb Bush and Rick Santorum, both listed as 6'3", when you look at them on stage at the GOP debates.
ReplyDeleteHe'd like to be 6'3", and who'd going to go measure him?
Wikipedia has him at 6'2".
Exactly. He is really 6'2". We know that.
DeleteTrump is counting his shoe lifts, I guess.
DeleteI just talked to a man about Trump's age. He said he had been to the doctor and he lost 4-6 inches in height. His doc said this can happen with people his age. He explained in more detail.
DeleteDid that happen to Donald Trump?
There are things that do shrink with age.
A lot of sites are commenting today on his claimed height (and that if did go by his real height then that would make his BMI definitely obese) and showing pics of Trump standing next to many other men over the years and not being his claimed height of 6'3" or even 6'2". In older pics with Trump, Don King (not counting the hair)is taller (and this was when Trump wasn't a hunchback) and then when King ages he appears the same height and shorter. Jesse Jackson, who was once 6'3" but he lost an inch of height, was taller than Trump. Trump next to Letterman is a go-to set of pics, with Letterman at 6'2" and taller--obviously taller. Some people have defended Trump by saying that people shrink with age, but he is still claiming to be oh-so-tall. Some people claim that Jeb is trying to look tall in a photo of the candidates, but there are soooo many pics showing Jeb as a couple inches taller. Jeb says he's 6'3" and I believe that.
DeleteI think Barbara is onto something with the lifts. Hes totally the type.
Delete"I'm not overweight, I'm under tall."
DeleteMen like Trump always pad their height. Usually 1-2 inches.
He may have been 6'2" and is now 6'1" or even 6'.
No matter how you measure it, he is obese, not overweight.
326 is much more accurate.
ReplyDelete"I'm starting to think he is not hooked up right."
ReplyDeleteLMAO!
That maybe explains why his PSA is so off.
He sits to pee.
Hillary's calcium is 0. His is 99. On the chart, up to 100 is considered "mild evidence of CAD" (coronary artery disease) but 101 takes you into the "moderate" range.
ReplyDeleteHe's probably lying about that too. It's more likely over 100. Hence the daily aspirin.
DeletePlease Hillary, smile on tv now. I know how crappy the media are stuck on your health. They need to do this to donnie .
ReplyDeleteYsy Hillary
ReplyDeleteNo way do I believe his BP. My sis has a cuff and needs to keep track of her BP. We usually measure both of ours and do it three times to see just how consistent things are. We might play around and take our BP a few times in a day at rest. We'll get so many different numbers. He pry had the doctor take his BP a # of times, or the doc simply lied for him.
ReplyDeleteThe sugar is fine, really, but who knows what he had eaten or not eaten that day and during the days before.
And as far as the cholesterol goes, he knew he'd be getting a checkup and pry changed his diet for a week or two, plus of course he's been on a med to keep the # down.
He actually admitted to being on cholesterol lowering meds. so, he might have actually taken an extra dose. Also does not say what he takes or the dose...
DeleteOops. I said before that his calcium is 99. It's 98. But he's barely in the "mild" range--three more points, 101, and he's "moderate."
ReplyDeleteBut hey, this was back in 2013. Nothing was said about this year.
However the next question I have to ask myself is if something terrible were to befall either person should they win the White House, whose running mate am I more comfortable with taking over.
ReplyDeleteWhat gets me is John McCain and his running mate. At his age he had zero regard in 2008 for his veep candidate and her medical mess, that joke of a letter from Dr. Cathy Baldwin-Johnston. It is like he is saying look at me, I release everything. Pay no attention to the fraud I pick to run the country if I die.
Oh, that's right. Sarah Palin was commander-in-Chief, no one has to vet her. No media has to ask questions. Just trust McCain, Palin and Baldwin-Johnston.
Cathy Baldwin Johnson, not Johnston.
DeleteI'd love to know his liver enzyme numbers. Processed meat (especially things like kielbasa and bacon) and red meat are so bad for the liver, but we know that's all he wants to eat. The doc is vague in using the wording "normal range." I bet that Trump is just barely in that range. Plus there are lists out there that vary in terms of what is considered a healthy range for different things. I bet his liver #s are pretty high.
ReplyDeleteMy husband eats meat, and especially loves salami and lunch meats but I make sure I purchase him the no-nitrate or preservative meats.
DeleteMeat eaters tend to not get enough fiber and those nitrates sit in the colon and lead to colon cancer.
I figure if he's going to eat meat I'll just get him the stuff that won't kill him as fast (mostly because he needs to stay around for a while longer because his 401K and investments aren't quite large enough yet to support me should he die at 60 because of his bad diet ;-)
Cholesterol meds increase your chance of developing diabetes. That's why I stopped taking them.
DeleteIf he's taking anything for GERD, and at his weight and with his diet he most likely has it, those meds can damage the liver.
I'm an active female, higher than average muscle mass (Crossfit!) age 58, 5'7" weigh 190 and wear a size 12. There is no way in hell that tub of lard at 6'3" weighs only 236, more like 336.
ReplyDeleteLiar, that's all he does is lie, he's Fat, Florid and (over) Fifty, a heart attack on wheels.
Might as well throw in "flaccid" as long as you're doing the alliteration thing...
DeleteFlaccid could actually play into the "Three F's" that are used for assessing health of men 50 and over.
DeleteIf he can't get it up then yes, that should count for something. FFS he's only 70, he should still be able to screw like a bunny!
Well, I am a not very active 60 y/o, about 5'7, weighing 210. That flabby a$$ is NOT weighing 236 lbs.
DeleteI agree with you - he weighs more like 326 lbs!
I'm 5'5", 63, and weigh 248, and fit into women's 20. There is no way in hell that a man 8 inches taller than I am, with that gut, weighs LESS than I do. My goodness. My husband is 6'2" and weighs 200, and has a 34" waist. I'd bet Trump's waist is 10 inches larger, easily. He'd fudging his weight like he inflates his wealth.
DeleteI don't care about the health of either candidate. I'm not going to vote for the healthiest candidate I'm going to vote for the best candidate Clinton and not the worst candidate in history trump. I voted for Mel Carnahan against Ashcroft and Mel Carnahan was dead from a plane crash.
ReplyDeleteNo way is he as tall as he claims. Also his reported weight is bs.
ReplyDeleteI wish Hil would shed a few pounds - although in some recent pictures she looked a bit trimmer. It would be good for her basic health - and her public "image". Rush is already making jokes about the sizes of her pants suits - as if Mr. Blob has a right to say anything about anyone's weight.
We have to win this one, folks. So much at stake.
Pat Padrnos
She's old, she doesn't work out and she genetically has an unhealthy body type. I don't think that Hillary ever was very active physically, but she doesn't have the type of body that lends itself to physical activity, perhaps that's why she's been more of a "cerebral person" because with her body type working out may have just been a waste of time.
DeleteShe's old, she's out of shape but she does know her business when it comes to government and the political process, plus she wants it so badly that she will do anything to become POTUS, that has to count for something.
Okay that is some truly ignorant bullshit right there.
DeleteIt is never a waste of time to work out, and as for having a "body type" that dictates whether you should exercise or not, I have trained people in wheelchairs without use of their legs, as well as obese people, and people recovering from illness and surgeries.
Exercise can prolong your life several decades in some cases and increase the quality of your life in numerous ways.
If you are ready to die, then don't bother to exercise. But if you want to live a long and prosperous life.....
Anon at 2:12 pm. Given all that Hillary Clinton has accomplished in her lifetime I think we can forgive her for not spending hours in the company of a personal trainer (a la any one of the Kardashian dimwits). After serving two terms as First Lady, Hillary Clinton became a US Senator and then Secretary of State for four years. During President Obama's second term she's been organizing her life for her presidential candidacy. That's seems to be plenty active from my point of view. And she looks very good for a woman of her generation. By the same token, Trump looks like a stroke or heart attack just waiting to happen. His temperament is not at all healthy.
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In the comments section following a Yahoo article on how Oz edited out a comment that Trump made re Ivanka--that he tries to kiss his duaghter as often as possible--there are several links to icky sexual-looking pics of Ivanka and her father. One I had never seen before. It's of them actually in bed and he's on the phone while she's barely dressed and sprawled all over him the way a lover does this when wanting to distract a guy who takes a call in the middle of a make-out session:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.gopocalypse.org/the-newest-donald-ivanka-creepy-daddy-love-pic-she-just-keeps-getting-younger-image/
Embarrassing.
DeleteWeirdos.
I do believe something unhealthy's going on here. Just a vibe.
DeleteI don't know if it is sexually creepy but it's creepy in the sense that Donald Trump is a huge narcissist and in his daughter he sees himself and thus has what we consider an unnatural relationship with her because it is founded on self-love.
DeleteQuite honestly I was most impressed that a 70 year old man with the body of a Greek god (with their much sought after tiny members) managed to score a mega-positive "atta boy!" on every single test without studying, including the very challenging urine test which starts with "get urine into cup" and just gets harder from there.
ReplyDeleteLet me be the first - but not the last - to wish Mr Drumpf a long, prosperous, quiet and healthy retirement beginning as soon as possible. Tomorrow is not too soon to begin. Believe me.
Hubby actually thinks that the ReThugs might want Don the Red Con to win, and once he has won, within the very first year, they will impeach him and get to have Pence as Prez, what they wanted all along.
ReplyDeleteThoughts?
This is exactly the scenario I envision and just this morning shared with my husband. After thinking about it for a bit, he also believes it's a strong possibility; or they have him assassinated. There's just no way they think this man can be CIC, but he will likely commit treason within the first month in office. They impeach and still get their bigoted President to appoint their like-minded Supreme Court Judges. The media can take credit for this frightening situation we are all facing. FFS, what's happened to this country? Never mind.
DeletePence would certainly appeal to the Teabaggers, of which there are many in Congress, but don't see mainstream Republicans, of which there are few, celebrating if he were to replace Trump.
DeleteI do agree, however, that once elected impeachment proceedings would begin posthaste.
Trump's letter had no mention of Viagra.
ReplyDeleteA 70 yr old man with a 46 yr old wife?
Donald uses enhancement. Needs to make up for his small fingers.
She's most likely happy he has ED. FSS, can you imagine having relations with that obese Oompa-Loompa? I'm thinking she's running out the clock and then ba-boom-ba! She out of there and on to the REALLY rewarding life with tons of money to enjoy herself.
DeleteWhat money?
DeleteThe creditors will take everything. She'll be lucky to keep her clothes and jewelry.
A single blood sugar check is not worth much. What is missing is a test hemoglobin A1C that is results in a number that determines if a patient routinely has higher than normal blood sugars over a 3 month period. It may not have been tested.
ReplyDeleteIf Trumps reported height is accurate I doubt the reported weight.
My 18 year old son is 6'3", muscular and 180 pounds...and looks very healthy and thinnish. Drumpf is waaaaaaaaaay heavier looking than said son. Like easily 80 pounds heavier.
ReplyDeleteYep. Spouse is 6'1" Which appear to be T.Rumps actual height. Spouse works out (weightlifts/cardio sport) and is about the same weight as T.Rump claims. But spouse has a 52" chest, legs like tree trunks, an ass that mmm mmmm ... oh, sorry.. got distracted... he is solid muscle all over, not thin. No way, T.Rump at the same height weighs the same. 270 at least.
DeleteAND he'll get away with this lie, just like he got away with all the other lies.
ReplyDeleteAnd the MSM will keep on going after Hillary for not being 'transparent enough'.
I just knew that the Dr. Oz thingy was going to be a scam. Dr. Oz is into the money like Trump. Didn't his ethics get questioned last year on something? I never pay attention to those tv doctors and judges. They have obviously sold out. It didn't surprise me when they wouldn't be up front. And even if they show anything, I wouldn't believe it. It's a yuge scam just like Donald. I know a few sociopaths and steer clear of them. The Republican party are going to have to go full Nazi when he gets elected. It's going to be so bad.
ReplyDelete"Dr" Oz, just another shitty thing that Oprah thrust upon our world.
DeleteIt is not possible for a man of his age who eats junk food and doesn't exercise to have the HDL, LDL, and triclyceride numbers he claims to have
ReplyDeletethose are the results with the statins.
DeleteWho goes on a fake doctor's show to divulge a two page letter written by a "doctor" who looks like the dead heads didn't want him around? That's not a record and says nothing of substance, it's an outline anyone can make up.
ReplyDeletePersonally I could careless what Trump's clown doctor letter said. I find it too convenient that Hillary has pneumonia and little Donnie just happened to have had a physical. I am sure if someone could pin him down exactly when he had this physical, we would find out he was in another state at some rally at the same time.
ReplyDeleteI am more interesting in a full psychiatric evaluation of sociopath Donnie.
Also, I don't believe he doesn't have high blood pressure, all that anger at any criticism, yelling, lying and ranting til his face is red is not conducive to low blood pressure.
I'm uncomfortable with the level of 'Christianity' Tim Kaine embraces because I prefer leaders that understand the difference between superstition and reality.
ReplyDeleteBut - yeah - Kaine would be better than Pence - Pence is NUTS as well as being a festering asshole.
Yeah, I hate that about him as well, but no one is perfect and despite his religion he seems like a decent person, I know, famous last words, but I'm willing to give him a chance as long as he keeps that shit to himself.
DeleteThis country and our government has religion shoved so far up its collective ass. National prayer breakfast anyone?
Ya know, just like us atheists, some Christians are pretty good people. Not because of their religion - though they may think that, but because they are just decent people. And some religions really do follow their teachers. And that Christ dude was pretty cool.
Delete-So in my opinion this whole health debate is no longer even an issue.-
ReplyDeleteThat is is quite an opinion. If she headbobs, goes googely eyed, or drops during the debates. Game over. And that is what a lot of people are watching for right now.
This is why you vote for the Vice President, not just the President.
ReplyDeleteIt's what made John McCain unfit for office. Because if he died, Sarah Palin would be president.
So you look at Kaine and Pence and there's your answer.
President Kaine, fine.
President Pence, nightmare.
GOING OUT TO DINNER..."HOW ABOUT A FRENCH FRY...." "YES, THANK Q"
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