Monday, September 26, 2016

Politico tracks Donald Trump lies for a week. Averages about one lie every 3 minutes 15 seconds.

Courtesy of Politico:

After he lied on Sept. 16 that he was not the person responsible for the birtherism campaign to delegitimize Barack Obama’s presidency, POLITICO chose to spend a week fact-checking Trump. We fact-checked Hillary Clinton over the same time. 

We subjected every statement made by both the Republican and Democratic candidates — in speeches, in interviews and on Twitter — to our magazine’s rigorous fact-checking process. The conclusion is inescapable: Trump’s mishandling of facts and propensity for exaggeration so greatly exceed Clinton’s as to make the comparison almost ludicrous. 

Though few statements match the audacity of his statement about his role in questioning Obama’s citizenship, Trump has built a cottage industry around stretching the truth. According to POLITICO’s five-day analysis, Trump averaged about one falsehood every three minutes and 15 seconds over nearly five hours of remarks. 

In raw numbers, that’s 87 erroneous statements in five days.

87 erroneous comments, ie lies, in five days?

Yes I knew Trump lied, but damn!

Now to be fair Politico did the same kind of analysis with Hillary this last week as well:

In raw numbers, Clinton made eight erroneous statements in five days.

Now Hillary did not do nearly as much talking last week as Trump, and Politico attempts to play the "fair and balanced" card by suggesting that Hillary plays a little loose with the truth as well.

However if you read through some of the "lies" that Hillary supposedly told you get examples like this:

Trump’s “economic plans would ... include an estimated $4 billion tax cut for his own family just by eliminating the estate tax.”

The problem with this is that the Clinton campaign is using the numbers that Trump himself uses for his wealth, 10 billion, instead of the 1.2 or 3 billion that Bloomberg News estimates. Which means she is "lying" because Trump is lying. Or something like that.

However the lies that Trump was caught telling are mostly whoppers, and often have very little in common with actual facts.

No matter how you look at it Donald Trump referring to Hillary Clinton as a liar is laugh out loud funny.

Unless of course people take it seriously, which sadly many actually do.


  1. Anonymous6:44 AM

    Thanks Immoral Minority for allowing Americans to vent their feelings here 😊

    I want to know his relationship with Russian businessmen.

    How much money is tied up with him and his businessmen in Russia.

    How much does he owes to anybody in Russia?

    What favors has he promised any Russian politicians or businessmen if he becomes president.

    We will never find out but just venting.

    1. Anonymous8:02 AM

      In other words - Donald Trump release your fucking tax returns!

  2. Anonymous6:49 AM

    Trump, his campaign staff, employees, everybody who plans on voting for him and his entire family knows Trump is a major chronic liar but they just don't care.

  3. Anonymous6:56 AM

    Check out last night's John Oliver!

  4. Anonymous7:07 AM

    Hillary Clinton is NOT the woman Trump continually indicates! And, remember folks - cable, the media/press have continually maligned her throughout the past year while building Trump into something he is not.

    Corporate owned are the media/press and cable networks - who are Republicans.

    Vote Hillary Clinton! She is an outstanding choice for POTUS!

  5. Anonymous7:11 AM

    Trump told the leader that under his administration the U.S. will “recognize Jerusalem as the undivided capital of the State of Israel,”


    the campaign statement read, repeating his promise to move the U.S. embassy to Tel Aviv


    Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at Trump Tower in New York, Sept. 25, 2016.

    The international community does not recognize Israel's sovereignty over all of Jerusalem

    Donald Trump told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that as president he would recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, his campaign said on Sunday.

    The statement, which was made during a meeting that lasted over an hour at Trump Tower in New ...

    .... Trump told the leader that under his administration the U.S. will “recognize Jerusalem as the undivided capital of the State of Israel,” the campaign statement read, repeating his promise to move the U.S. embassy to Tel Aviv.

    Hillary Clinton also met Netanyahu for less than an hour in Manhattan, CBS reports. Reporters were barred from covering either event.

    1. Anonymous7:46 AM

      I'm going to show my ignorance here, but why isn't Jerusalem recognized by the USA as the capital of Israel and what have been the ramifications of our stand? I have no understanding of it at all - - -

    2. Anonymous8:17 AM

      Don't worry @7:46, you know more than Donald.

  6. Anonymous7:22 AM

    During an interview on MSNBC's Morning Joe, Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway admitted that Donald Trump doesn't care about the truth, and makes up his own facts.

    1. Anonymous7:41 AM

      JHC! And, they still support him! I'm sitting here just shaking my head!

    2. Anonymous7:59 AM

      K. Conway has an easy job. Wave Trump's gallon jug of Viagra pills at him, then send him on stage. Trump DOES care about one thing enough to spurt word salad for a short while.

    3. Anonymous10:07 AM

      Kellyanne Conway claimed that since Trump didn't "know" the truth, he couldn't lie about it. If she even remotely believes that twisted logic, if Trump claims something is true, when he has no idea whether it is or not, the claim is the lie.

      It is like guessing a true or false answer on a test where you don't know any of the answers - half the time you will probably guess right, and half the time you will probably guess wrong. You may get 50% on the test, but that doesn't make you 50% truthful - it simply makes you 50% lucky. Since you knew none of the answers, you simply lied 100% of the time but fooled the system 50% of the time.

    4. Anonymous4:20 PM

      All his people do is deflect, deflect, deflect and lie on his behalf. Omarosa, the "black outreach director" of Trump's campaign was incredulous that Chris Hayes would ask her about the "birtherism" meme and why Trump started it. She said, paraphrasing, I can't believe, with all things going on, you start by asking a question like this, the media's all the same, blah blah.... people with no jobs, kids of color being killed and you're blaming this on Trump? Seriously???

      My guess is Oma doesn't get out much, watch the news, etc much.

      Can't wait for Hillary to mop the floor with him, drop the mic and walk off the stage.

    5. Anonymous11:16 PM

      To his supporters, that is his most endearing quality.

  7. Anonymous7:23 AM

    Debate Moderators Should Press Trump On Why the IRS Says He’s Lying

  8. Anonymous7:27 AM

    John Oliver Compares Trump And Clinton 'Scandals'

  9. Anonymous7:29 AM

    Big Coward Donald Trump Takes Shelter In The Fox News Cocoon

  10. Anonymous7:38 AM

    Networks Confirm They Will Not Be Fact-Checking Donald Trump In Any Way

    1. Anonymous8:01 AM

      Are they going to fact check Hillary? Hope they play by the same rules since Trump is on record for not wanting to be fact checked!

    2. Anonymous8:08 AM

      Donald told us he is a bad ass negotiator. He didn't say bad ass, but he is

  11. Anonymous7:40 AM

    The Left Underestimates the Danger of Trump

    1. Anonymous10:23 AM

      "This election is a choice between two movements. Do you want to see movements like Black Lives Matter, Climate Justice, low-wage workers, immigrant rights, and other left social forces continue to grow and develop? Or do you want to see Neo-Nazis, the Klan, the Alt-Right on the offense and backed by a Trump administration?"

  12. Anonymous7:55 AM

    One definition of judgment is the ability to distinguish outliers from outright liars, given that they tend to tell similar kinds of stories. Occasionally, an individual, by producing a great volume of mendacity, manages to occupy both categories. Donald Trump—fabulist, demagogue, and Presidential nominee—has raised unique challenges not only to the political system but to those tasked with writing about it.

  13. Anonymous7:57 AM

    New Hillary Clinton Ad Calls Out Donald Trump’s ‘Seven Deadly Lies’

    The Clinton campaign has released a new ad, highlighting Donald Trump’s lies on the eve of the first presidential debate tonight at Hofstra University. Hillary for America explains, “The video emphasizes that Trump can’t win tonight’s debate by repeatedly lying to the American people.” The new video highlights “the most outrageous his ‘Seven Deadly Lies.'”

    Watch courtesy of Hillary for America’s “The Briefing”:

  14. Fuck tRUMP8:25 AM

    Public health warning issued!

  15. Anonymous8:25 AM

    One Bizarre Campaign Photo Captures 2016 Perfectly

  16. Anonymous8:39 AM

    A marriage isn't tested until a child or spouse gets seriously ill.

    The little daily tests are nothing. Until you or your spouse, or your child falls ill, you will never know how strong your marriage is. A miscarriage could be similar.

    1. Anonymous12:40 PM

      Wrong thread, Alicia

    2. "A marriage isn't tested until a child or spouse gets seriously ill."
      Nonsense, you nutty lunatic. You have never been married and have no idea what can test a marriage.

  17. Anonymous8:52 AM

    Gryph, do you think it was not wise to let Donald know ahead of time what and when Hillary might challenge his lies?

    Trump vs. Clinton: A debate fact-check cheat sheet

    1. Anonymous9:25 AM

      That's like a professor telling the students ahead of time what the exact questions will be on the Finals.

    2. Anonymous11:32 PM

      It won't make any difference. Trump can't avoid being Trump.

  18. Anonymous9:10 AM

    No way. No rest room break? Wow how inhumaine! That is just cruel for these too old fogeys. Who thought this up. Omg. But I guess it is due to liar cheat donnie orange.

    1. Anonymous4:24 PM

      one small clothespin, and he'll be fine.

    2. Anonymous11:33 PM

      That's what Depends are for.

      In fact, that might go a long way to explain that goofy smile he has.

  19. Caroll Thompson10:19 AM

    There is an article out today advising people not to play a drinking game wherein they take a drink every time Trump lies. The article claims that this could lead to excessive alcohol consumption, alcohol poisoning and possibly death.

  20. Anonymous10:29 AM

    Good article on Trump's trait of cruelty. Of course, the deplorables don't care and they eat this stuff up.

    1. Anonymous11:29 AM

      dRumpf "“I was angry because they sued,”

      In 1999>"Then came the unveiling of Fred Sr.’s will, which Donald had helped draft. It divided the bulk of the inheritance, at least $20 million, among his children and their descendants, “OTHER than my son Fred C. Trump Jr.” Freddy’s children sued, claiming that an earlier version of the will had entitled them to their father’s share of the estate, but that DONald and his siblings had used “undue influence” over their grandfather, who had dementia, to cut them out. A week later, Mr. Trump retaliated by withdrawing the medical benefits critical to his nephew’s infant child."

  21. Anonymous10:57 AM


    The fat's in the fire!

    "A former top staffer for New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie who was recently hired by Donald Trump's campaign knew about a politically-motivated scheme to cause traffic problems on the George Washington Bridge a month before it was carried out in 2013, the government’s key witness testified on Monday."

    1. Anonymous12:47 PM

      A former Chris Christie staffer who knows about Chris's secret was recently hired by Trump sounds like a payoff to keep quiet.

  22. Anonymous11:17 AM

    drumpf's Net worth=Get this>
    -295 Million. In Debit.... It is "how he feels" he is worth that matters. It is called the "Emotional State" he is in at the time. OK??? THAT IS "NUTS and FRUITCAKE ALL IN ONE"!

  23. Anonymous12:24 PM

    Bloomberg News will be fact-checking tonight-there ARE some journalists left!!

  24. Anonymous11:02 PM

    Is that 24/7?

    Since he's only in the media maybe half the day, then let's say 12 hours which averages out to 1 lie every 90 seconds.

    Now tonight, I read 16 lies during the debate. That's only 1 lie every 5 minutes. Of course, half of that time was *supposed* to be Hillarys, so one lie every 2.5 minutes. So he actually did better during the debate.

  25. Anonymous11:03 PM

    I think I read somewhere 16 lies during the debate. Personally, I think that's low since he seemed to double down on a lot of stuff.


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