|Scottie Nell Hughes|
The guests are Atlantic editor James Fallows, Politico‘s Glenn Thrush and Margaret Sullivan of the Washington Post, along with Trump spokesperson Scottie Nell Hughes.
Here is the exchange:
REHM Now I know you've been listening since the top of the program, and I'm sure you've heard James Fallows talk about lies that Donald Trump has put out there in tweets, in things he's said. What do you make of that?
HUGHES Well, I think it's also an idea of an opinion. And that's -- on one hand I hear half the media saying that these are lies, but on the other half there are many people that go, no, it's true. And so one thing that has been interesting this entire campaign season to watch is that people that say facts are facts, they're not really facts. Everybody has a way, it's kind of like looking at ratings or looking at a glass of half-full water. Everybody has a way of interpreting them to be the truth or not true.
HUGHES There's no such thing, unfortunately, anymore of facts. And so Mr. Trump's tweet amongst a certain crowd, a large -- a large part of the population, are truth. When he says that millions of people illegally voted, he has some -- in his -- amongst him and his supporters, and people believe they have facts to back that up. Those that do not like Mr. Trump, they say that those are lies, and there's no facts to back it up. So...
And there you have it, the very thing that I have been predicting since before Trump won this election.
Now that he is in power facts no longer have any value.
All that matters is what you believe, what you want to believe, and what those in power want you to believe.
By the way if this batshit crazy lunatic seems familiar it may be because she was brilliantly parodied by Saturday Night Live back in April.
And now these are the people who are in charge.