Thursday, January 05, 2017

Donald Trump has plans to revamp American intelligence agencies. Well of course he does. Update!

Courtesy of the Wall Street Journal:

President-elect Donald Trump, a harsh critic of U.S. intelligence agencies, is working with top advisers on a plan that would restructure and pare back the nation’s top spy agency, people familiar with the planning said. 

The move is prompted by his belief that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence has become bloated and politicized, these people said. 

The planning comes as Mr. Trump has leveled a series of social-media attacks in recent months and the past few days against U.S. intelligence agencies, dismissing and mocking their assessment that Russia stole emails from Democratic groups and individuals and then provided them to WikiLeaks for publication in an effort to help Mr. Trump win the White House. 

One of the people familiar with Mr. Trump’s planning said advisers also are working on a plan to restructure the Central Intelligence Agency, cutting back on staffing at its Virginia headquarters and pushing more people out into field posts around the world. The CIA declined to comment. 

“The view from the Trump team is the intelligence world has become completely politicized,” said the individual, who is close to the Trump transition. “They all need to be slimmed down. The focus will be on restructuring the agencies and how they interact.”

In other words Trump is upset that the intelligence agencies have determined that the Russian hacks were designed to help him win the election, and the wants to punish them for doing their jobs.

I actually see this is a not so veiled threat to remind the intelligence agency that he will soon be their boss and to take that into consideration before they reveal anything more about the hacks.

But riddle me this Batman.

How does a man who ran on increasing security for the United States, and fighting terrorists more aggressively, plan to do all of that once he has gutted the very agencies that he relies on to provide him the information to accomplish those tasks?

P.S. To be fair Trump spokesperson, and probable part time porn actor, Sean Spicer says that there is "no truth to this idea."

However how many times have we seen that a Trump spokesmodel has had no freaking idea what Donald Trump was actually up to?

Update: It looks like Trump is trying to Twitter-back his previous tweets:

Oh, I see. Trump was not really putting faith in Julian Assange over our intelligence agencies, that was just a misrepresentation by the media.

What was it he tweeted again?
Oh yeah, the "misunderstanding" was TOTALLY the fault of the press.

How dare they read his tweets and interpret them logically. 

64 comments:

  1. Anonymous8:33 AM

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-tweets-hes-a-big-fan-of-intelligence-as-congress-begins-russia-hacking-probe_us_586e5951e4b0c8575a775957

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  2. Trump commenting on intelligence agencies reminds me of a hog looking at a wrist watch.

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    1. Anonymous9:38 AM

      Yea, and Trump looks like a hog!!! Fat-assed illiterate nut!

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  3. Anonymous8:38 AM

    At the end of the hearings, someone (sorry, don't have name) was interviewed who said that the CIA was already revamped fairly recently, and Trump probably has no clue. There are March 2015 articles, like this one below, that talk about a revamp. I'm guessing this is what the person was referring to:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-plans-major-reorganization-and-a-focus-on-digital-espionage/2015/03/06/87e94a1e-c2aa-11e4-9ec2-b418f57a4a99_story.html?utm_term=.c606579347eb

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    1. Thanks for the link... Me thinks
      Trump or one of his stooges needs some daily briefs. Get with the program buddy, we been there done that!

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    2. Anonymous10:28 AM

      Gee all these gop dummies have no idea how giovt works. I thought they did, just a few like mitch the bitch. Others just sit and earn money and vote with majority. My they will do themselves in. Trumpfaty is just even dummer. He does nothing than tweet. Goodluck amerka.

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  4. Anonymous8:40 AM

    That WSJ article is detailed and news about the story coming out broke yesterday and it sounds legit.

    And you know it's legit when right-wingers start blogging about how the WSJ is a Dem mouthpiece. Of course it's been a GOP mouthpiece since the end of its more objective days.

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    1. Anonymous9:40 AM

      Isn't the WSJ owned by Rupert Murdoch?

      dowl

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    2. Anonymous10:00 AM

      Right, and you know silly season has arrived when formerly thoughtful progressive bloggers pimp opinion essays by Breitbart writers (Epstein) appearing in one of the most conservative news product in the country. (WSJ)

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  5. Anonymous8:43 AM

    Trump is a fucking idiot and will never represent me as potus. The Jokester to the country and world and I can hardly wait to see him impeached!

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    1. Anonymous8:57 AM

      These guys are not idiots:
      http://www.salon.com/2017/01/05/what-are-steve-mnuchin-and-jeff-sessions-hiding-trumps-cabinet-appointees-have-huge-gaps-in-their-records/

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  6. Anonymous8:45 AM

    I loved that it was made absolutely clear that many in the intel agencies are current and former military personnel. Of course Trump had no idea. He thought he was attacking almost all regular citizens. Today he tweeted about his support of intel and said he was simply reporting what was being said about Assange. We know what he really said and thought/thinks. Today, he was made to look like the fool that he is, and one thing that surely ticked him off was learning that his professed love for all things military was shown not to be true. Or at the very least, mister know-more-than-the-generals was humiliated for not even knowing who makes up a large part of the intel personnel. Wonder if he's finally starting to regret making freakyass Flynn his special advisor.

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  7. Anonymous8:51 AM

    I seriously doubt a 70 year old that has no interest in furthering his education knows the basics about computers let alone anything about cyber security.

    He will probable make his 10 year old head of the new agency because he knows what the "on" button is.

    I have a feeling they are going to lock down his twitter account or it is going to be a long 4 years of his lies, then defending his lies, then blaming lies on someone else.

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  8. Anonymous8:52 AM

    MORE:
    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/05/democrats-trump-corruption-call-investigation-hhs-nominee.html

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  9. Anonymous9:01 AM

    "More dishonest than anyone knows"<drumpf knows, right?

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  10. Anonymous9:04 AM

    https://thinkprogress.org/trump-intelligence-big-fan-b537caab2caa#.eh8fc6mmu

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  11. Anonymous9:05 AM

    And where is the other hacker and rigger mr snowden? In care of pooty? What does he have to say about all this? How many so called "American's" live in Russia?

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    1. Anonymous10:13 AM

      I think you need to get out more or least try the google once in awhile, because a lot of Americans who live in Russia. And Snowden, well if you looked you'd know he's been happily tweeting about the errors in the Epstein article that our host Skippy breathlessly posted but forgot to update when it got so many holes poked in it it sank like a turd.

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    2. Anonymous10:33 AM

      10:13 look - snow den stole massive quantities of documents. STOLE the documents. If he is so altruistic and good then why won't he leave Russia and return to the states and stand trial?

      And also "Skippy" Snowden tweeting from Russia in an attempt to save his ass so he can be of further use to Vlad and not be kicked out of Russia in no way means he poked holes in the story. He has a nice, comfortable gig going and doesn't want to accept responsibility nor face the consequences of his actions. He is not a whistleblower exposing illegal activities. He is a thief and traitor who sold us out.

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    3. Anonymous10:33 AM

      Well idi amin live rest of his life in egypt in luxury.

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    4. Anonymous11:28 AM

      "He is not a whistleblower exposing illegal activities. He is a thief and traitor who sold us out. "

      You know that's word for word what was said about Daniel Ellsberg in 1971. Now he's regarded as a hero. You can't find anyone who will admit they called Ellsberg a traitor. History will see Snowden as a hero, too and all you authoritarians screeching "traitor" will deny you were on the wrong side of history about him.

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    5. Anonymous1:40 PM

      @11:28> If we can live that long.....to get to the truth.

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  12. Anonymous9:06 AM

    Remember when campaigning Trump asked Russia to "find the missing Clinton emails" and he was accused of inviting a foreign gov't to spy on America?
    Putin and Assange took him up on this and exposed Pedesta influencing the election.
    Trump is Vlad's bitch now because of Russian intel data showing criminal and monetary deals with Moscow mafia and perhaps sexual perversion escapades of the Donald.
    Afraid of being exposed Trump has been lying his ass off denying any trips, connections with Russians. Knowing the CIA and American news media will eventually unearth the truth and expose him, he has consistently been trying to neutralize the messengers with accusations "liars" and incompetence during his rallies and tweets.
    Fist order of business as potus is to get rid of U.S.intel adversaries. Also eliminate awkward news interviews replacing with tweetocracy.
    Vlad and Julian are holding the trump cards.
    808

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    1. Anonymous10:52 AM

      Don't you mean dRUMPf's balls?

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  13. Anonymous9:07 AM

    THIS!"“federal obscenity laws, child pornography laws, sexual predation laws and the sex trafficking laws,” to appoint “an Attorney General who will make the prosecution of such laws a top priority in my administration,” and to seriously consider “appointing a Presidential Commission to examine the harmful public health impact of Internet pornography on youth, families and the American culture and the prevention of the sexual exploitation of children in the digital age.” djt

    https://thinkprogress.org/republicans-return-to-war-on-porn-5694cab4eb2b#.vrnfqqd5p

    THAT tells it....

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  14. Anonymous9:12 AM

    Trump is doing all this to insult and threaten those agencies that have the goods on him."I know something you don't know...". How fucking childish. NOT MY PRESIDENT. Tick tock,Punkinhead. Friday's almost here.

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  15. Anonymous9:22 AM

    United States. Over.

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  16. Anonymous9:39 AM

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/giddy-white-nationalists-hail-ann-coulter-after-she-seemingly-tweets-out-infamous-neo-nazi-slogan/

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    1. Anonymous9:52 AM

      1488

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    2. Anonymous1:08 PM

      I'd never heard of this 1488 thing and looked it up. Here's a very useful article:

      http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/04/1488-is-the-gateway-drug-to-the-alt-right-not-the-other-way-round/

      Also, when I clicked on Coulter's tweet I saw someone else's post about what that "14" by itself means to neo-Nazis re the Aryan woman.

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  17. Anonymous9:50 AM

    Intel Expert: Trump 'One Step Away From Treason'

    http://crooksandliars.com/2017/01/intel-expert-trump-one-step-away-treason

    http://crooksandliars.com/2017/01/congressman-plans-delegation-trip-russia

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/05/trump-trusts-russian-operative-assange-americas-intelligence-community.html

    A Guide To Resisting Trump By Using Congress - And It Works!

    A practical guide For resisting the Trump agenda

    Former congressional staffers reveal best practices for making Congress listen.

    http://crooksandliars.com/2017/01/guide-resisting-trump-using-congress-and

    The guide started as a simple Google document but has gone viral in recent weeks as the country inches toward a Trump presidency and many Americans are wondering how they can get involved. It covers a range of topics, like how to build local grassroots organizations and which ways are most effective in influencing policymakers.

    It also lays out Tea Party strategies that liberals can borrow in order to effectively oppose Trump:

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/04/grassroots-anti-trump-movement-spreading-wildfire-inauguration-day.html

    https://www.indivisibleguide.com

    Watch CNN's Double Standard: GOP 'Opposes'; Dems 'Obstruct'

    When Republicans obstruct, there is no price or press. But if Democrats even threaten to, watch how the narrative shifts.

    http://crooksandliars.com/2017/01/watch-narrative-shift-cnn-says-democrats

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    1. Anonymous1:55 PM

      The fucking Republicans....get rid of them all - our country is in dire need to do so or we are no longer going to recognize our country and government.

      Trump, Pence, McConnell and Ryan need to go first and foremost. They are not in America's corner! They are ALL traitors and obstructionists and just plain evil!

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  18. Anonymous9:57 AM

    "restructure the Central Intelligence Agency, cutting back on staffing at its Virginia headquarters and pushing more people out into field posts around the world"
    Not sure how you conclude less people at HQ and more people in field posts doesn't follow with a promise to increase security and fight terrorism. Because generally less honchos and more worker bees is a good thing.

    Remember what Eisenhower said: "Beware the military-industrial complex"? In our post 9/11 world we have a security-industrial complex that has grown out of control and constantly lobbying for ways to put their product to work. Wonder why the FBI didn't need to look at the DNC's and Podesta's email servers? Because the very data collection systems Snowden told us about had already collected the upstream data.

    I can't stand the orange gibbon, but I'm all for shrinking the top of our intelligence community and putting people back out in the world instead of relying so much on data collection - which has never stopped a terrorist attack.

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  19. Anonymous9:57 AM

    Ewwwwwwww....

    http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/shutterstock_519971377-800x430.jpg

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    1. Anonymous2:12 PM

      eXXXactly>
      Serpent Pox face and little pointy tongue, to match his tiny winny. Imagine THAT tongue,
      $ulfer looking Orange Mon$ter ki$$ing, touching any part of anything or anyone.
      Ewwwwwww...

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  20. Anonymous10:27 AM

    Why Do Republicans Hate Obamacare?

    http://crooksandliars.com/2017/01/real-reason-republicans-hate-obamacare

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    1. Anonymous11:29 AM

      Listen to Lawrence, it's very reassuring.

      Trump Presidency Faces First Massive Crisis In Trying To Keep The GOP Happy (VIDEO)

      http://www.bipartisanreport.com/2017/01/04/trump-presidency-faces-first-massive-crisis-in-trying-to-keep-the-gop-happy-video/

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    2. Anonymous4:46 AM

      No kidding. Why, what questions go thru their gop mind? Surely not, hmm is it good for my constituents?, does it assist my constituents?, I should go out to my constituents and ask some questions, polls.
      People, this is what your pussygrabber should be asking and doing. You voted them to speak for you.

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  21. Anonymous10:29 AM

    Trump faces 7-hour grilling in restaurant lawsuit as soon as today

    Trump will not be tweeting for at least seven hours some time in the very near future because he’s facing a lengthy deposition under oath in a lawsuit stemming from a restaurant that never opened.

    LawNewz.com reported Thursday that the deposition is set to take place at Trump Tower due to “security reasons” and will include Trump, his legal team and attorneys representing chef Jose Andres and restauranteur Geoffrey Zakarian.

    Andres and Zakarian were set to open a new restaurant in Trump’s Washington, D.C. hotel the Trump International but pulled out of the deal in 2015 after Trump kicked off his presidential campaign by calling Latino immigrants “drug dealers” and “rapists.”

    Grubstreet.com’s Clint Rainey said that after Andres made the decision to abandon the project, the Trump International has been unable to attract a replacement restaurant.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/trump-faces-7-hour-grilling-in-restaurant-lawsuit-as-soon-as-today/

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    1. Anonymous11:34 AM

      "7-hour grilling"
      Catch your breath, according to CNN, it lasted just over one hour.

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    2. Anonymous1:16 PM

      No one needs to catch their breath. According to CNN and MSNBC earlier today, it was in fact to be a 7-hr deposition, and there was comment on how Trump shouldn't now now be in a position like that requiring the loss of almost a full work day that could be spent on presidential duties.

      But Trump won't let go of that law suit. He cannot stand that two famous chefs said f-you to him. He could have worked since then finding others to open better restaurants, but all he did was find someone to do a very mediocre limited kind of restaurant. The chef is fairly well known, but the restaurant is a basic grill you'd find anywhere. And reviews have not been good. If this hotel is to be five-star like he claims, it needs very good restaurants. Trump could have made it happen, but he chose to pursue the punishment of two people who were deeply offended by him and pulled away from the deal for moral reasons.

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    3. Anonymous1:51 PM

      I hope these guys beat the shit out of Trump.

      And, I hope their attorneys make it legally imperative that Trump does actually pay them! i.e. Liens could be placed against his real estate properties that should he refinance, the chef's liens would have to be paid along w/other liens against the property! They'd get their money eventually as long as the value of said real estate property liened is maintained.

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  22. Anonymous10:36 AM

    House Republicans revive obscure rule that allows them to slash the pay of individual federal workers to $1

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/house-republicans-revive-obscure-rule-that-could-allow-them-to-slash-the-pay-of-individual-federal-workers-to-1/2017/01/04/4e80c990-d2b2-11e6-945a-76f69a399dd5_story.html

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    1. Does this mean they don't have to pay "mincome?"

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  23. ibwilliamsi10:48 AM

    Honestly, I have to wonder if he's not walking it back because he's realized it might not be a good idea to publicly refuse to take meetings with the CIA because they're not good at their jobs or worse yet liars then cut their budget.

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  24. Anonymous10:49 AM

    He assumes the American people are in a fog and from one minute to the next don't remember what he just said. When it comes to the folks who voted for him, he's right. It's why he loves the uneducated stupid.

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  25. Anonymous10:49 AM

    dRUMPf is an IDIOT. Does he not realize the the alphabet agencies are what keep this country safe?

    Many of the employees of those agencies are not going to be happy with his fat orange fingers in the pie. Also, many of them are trained killers. I can't see them letting him compromise the safety of the US.

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    1. No, he doesn't.

      Be believes he can keep this country safe by sheer will of personality.

      You know, like threatening China, North Korea and ISIS.

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    2. Anonymous1:42 PM

      I think Donald Trump will be a goner and will not lead our country very long after taking his oath of office!

      He's been too hateful, a liar, fraud, racist and a divider! He did not get the majority vote of Americans, is not liked or respected and will never survive his presidency - I see him being impeached and put out to pasture!

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  26. Anonymous10:50 AM

    Interesting how Trump and Palin are defending the ways and means of Putinism now. Thought they were powerful people who thought those gems of thoughts on their own and here all this time they were just puppets of Putin's worldwide dominance plan. Now they are busy spinning and trying to suck the rest of American down that drain. Ouch. And all this time we thought we were on some big patriotic plan and to find we are just being led into the slaughter pen. Shit. We are back to the dark ages, and Hitler's dark, greedy, grasping shortsighted little world.
    On another note, loved Obama's letter to the people. Good stuff. We will never get one like that from Trump. Never.

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  27. Anonymous11:04 AM

    Internet Explodes On Brown-Nosing Sarah Palin For Her Apology To Julian Assange (TWEETS)

    Now that Julian Assange seems to be working against the Democratic Party, Sarah Palin has done a 180-degree turn and apologized to the cyber-espionage expert for hacking her emails.

    http://www.bipartisanreport.com/2017/01/04/internet-explodes-on-brown-nosing-sarah-palin-for-her-apology-to-julian-assange-tweets/

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    1. Anonymous4:50 AM

      She forgot she wanted blood for the college student that got to her yahoo account. Mental idiot sarry.

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  28. Anonymous11:11 AM

    California Lawmakers Bring In Huge Democratic Powerhouse To Fight Trump Agenda

    http://www.bipartisanreport.com/2017/01/04/california-lawmakers-bring-in-huge-democratic-powerhouse-to-fight-trump-agenda/

    ‘I see myself as somebody who will fight really hard for the middle class and people trying to be there. I am not afraid of Donald Trump. I am not afraid of the Republicans. And we’re gonna hold their feet to the fire.’

    http://www.bipartisanreport.com/2017/01/04/chuck-schumer-said-something-to-rachel-maddow-that-will-make-your-blood-boil-video/

    ‘And today, was day one of dealing with the reality of that promise, and it was a very bad day for Republicans…It could not have been more of a disaster.’

    http://www.bipartisanreport.com/2017/01/04/trump-presidency-faces-first-massive-crisis-in-trying-to-keep-the-gop-happy-video/

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    1. Anonymous4:53 AM

      Not going to stop, rich get richer, poor stay poor. No middle class anymore. People must somehow save money and put in markets to get compound interests. I know people are living paycheck to paycheck. Somehow we must help ourselves.

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  29. Anonymous1:00 PM

    What a moronic bozo Trump is. His first tweet says it all: "I just state what he (Assange) states." If Trump doesn't add any qualifying remarks, then he's in a agreement with what he is stating. When will he realize that tweeting is not the most appropriate way to get one's point across. Government officials should not try to communicate their thoughts in 140 characters or less. They need to spend more time thinking about the consequences of their remarks than about the letters needed.

    In the end I think the "intelligence" that Trump likes is what he hears from his new best friend, Vladimir Putin.
    Beaglemom

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    1. Anonymous1:35 PM

      OR >" I think the "intelligence" that Trump likes is what he hears from" In drumpf's on brain/mind. He only really hears himself.

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    2. Anonymous1:38 PM

      Trump's tweets are being retained and will always be accessible forever into the future.

      He truly is a fucking idiot and has to be stopped - someone w/power needs to not allow him to take the oath for the protection of our country and ALL Americans. The world governments would be far happier too!

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  30. Wonder if they knew their jobs were going to be eliminated when they conspired to get him elected?

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  31. Anonymous1:21 PM

    Trump made his intel/Assange comments more than 24 hours ago. All day yesterday there were questions about the comments and Pence was out there answering and trying to smooth things over. So many people were outraged. Trump had plenty of time to tweet again and fix things. Only this morn, before the hearings started, did he tweet again on the matter and make excuses. He tweeted early. The matter was on his mind. He knew he looked like an ignorant fool, and he knew he needed to do a fix before the hearings started.

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  32. Anonymous1:34 PM

    Jesus Christ! First Trump is against intelligence and now he's for it! He never can keep a fucking thing straight and loves operating on confusion!

    Fuck him! I hope he is stopped in his tracks from taking the oath of office. He is the least qualified idiot to be anywhere near becoming potus! Hillary Clinton should become POTUS on 1/20/17 as she has the majority vote and is liked and respected (in spite of what the media constantly pushed on a daily basis)!

    Our country is going to be very sorry Trump is 'allowed' to take the oath that he'll never understand or follow!

    America is going down, down, down and there will be civil war and more wars in other parts of the world with the asshole in charge. He needs to be STOPPED!

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  33. Anonymous1:35 PM

    Funny, but Assange was ahead of Trump in votes right at the end of November for time's Person of the Year. Birds of a feather.

    And now I also have to wonder if Trump made any moves to get that win!

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  34. Anonymous1:42 PM

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/house-republicans-revive-obscure-rule-that-could-allow-them-to-slash-the-pay-of-individual-federal-workers-to-1/2017/01/04/4e80c990-d2b2-11e6-945a-76f69a399dd5_story.html

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    1. Anonymous2:12 PM

      They're also up to no good--sorry, don't have links--on trying to take away some of Obama's protective executive moves made this past month, and they have scheduled 6 Trump nominees' hearings on the same day that Lardass will finally be doing a press conference so that attn will be on Trump and not the hearings.

      I had heard a few days ago that they'd be pushing for very short hearings of nominees. Then asshole McConnell started whining yesterday about how they had confirmed a # of Obama people back on 1/21 after Obama got in. Well, there was no reason not to. Yes they confirmed a #, but these were people who had been senators and governors, sometimes under a GOP pres, and they were respected lawyers and one was even the first Nobel Prize winner to be in the Cabinet. There were Tom Vilsack gov of Iowa, Ken Salazar Hillary senators (etc for Hillary). Janet Napolitano had been AZ's attorney general and governor. Shinsheki had been the Bush Army chief of Staff. These were all going to be so easily confirmed. Others were Steven Chu, a Nobel scientist, and Arne Duncan, Harvard degree Supervisor of Chicago schools appointed by mayor Daley. Many of Trump's picks are not well known, and if they are well known they are people who have questionable experience for their new roles and with histories that are filled with conflicts of interest and behavior that is not becoming of someone of high office.

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  35. Anonymous6:54 PM

    O/t I am so sorry about that mentally challenged boy. It just breaks my heart. I haven't watched the video and don't have any desire to. I hope the torturers suffer greatly every single day. The Gramma, I hope she will be ok as well. Sick sick individuals. But what is different from these four than guantanomo bay soldiers? Sick people.

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