Sunday, April 30, 2017

Trump takes to Twitter to attack Democrats and promise better health care bill than Obamacare.

Actually I would argue that the Democrats have better leaders than the Republicans right now.

After this shot at the Dems Trump immediately jumped into selling some new and improved healthcare plan to his Twitter followers.

Wait, what?

So NOW the Republicans have a bill that covers preexisting conditions and  brings down deductibles?

What kind of wizardry is this?

That's what John Dickerson wanted to know on Face the Nation this morning.
Of course that does not really pass the smell test.

Courtesy of Think Progress 

It isn’t clear what Trump means when he claims that “pre-existing conditions” are in the bill. In fact, Republicans gutted protections for people with pre-existing conditions last week. On Tuesday, Republican leaders proposed an amendment to the latest version of the legislation that would raise premiums by thousands of dollars for people with pre-existing conditions and thus make health care unaffordable for many Americans. 

That’s why it was so puzzling that Trump insisted pre-existing conditions were covered “beautifully.” 

Journalists and health care experts, such as Andy Slavitt, Andy Slavitt, the former acting administrator for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, all pointed out that the president doesn’t seem to be familiar with his party’s current plan or how it functions.

You see the problem is that Trump has been conditioned by the response of his most ardent supporters who swallow everything he says like guppies waiting for the fish food to fall into their open mouths, while  more intelligent folks, let's call them "NOT Trump supporters," fact check everything he says and realize that he simply lies all of the damn time.

26 comments:

  1. Anonymous11:33 AM

    Pardon my language but I hate these Reich wing mother fuckers. Hate. Strong ugly word, but it's how I feel.

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    1. Anonymous12:51 PM

      I have found myself struggling with the use of the word "hate" regarding these miscreants but I honestly cannot come up with a more aot description. I didn't hate then at first because I really try to give them any benefit of the doubt but as time goes on, I just can't do that any longer. It certainly isn't apathy that I feel for these people, it's hate, because not only are they willfully ignorant, they revel in that ignorance and their own hatred of anything "other" than them, which is anything not white, Christian, straight and male. I've seen this my whole life as a white, straight agnostic female.

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  2. Anonymous11:52 AM

    Trump is a very ugly liar. He is pathological. A very dangerous ill liar. Republican's obstructed progress for 8 solid years. They rigged elections during those 8 yrs in districts they had plants in. They spent 8 yrs preparing for a useful idiot to accomplish what we have today. They are behind this entire nasty hateful election process and my hope is it will all be divulged and these LIARS will be exposed and prosecuted. Assholes like trump, chaney, Rumsfeld, Petras, Flynn, and many more. They are all out of the same mold from the swamp. LIE For money. Cheat Americans out of money and jobs. Steal from the taxpayers with military contracts. They suck beyond belief. They have committed documented Treason. Human trafficking, espionage, money laundering, rigging elections, lying under oath. Guilty as SIN.

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  3. Trump is describing Universal Healthcare. Single payer.

    That is not going to happen. The Republicans will not allow it. Insurance companies would go bankrupt. They can't make money that way.

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  4. Anonymous12:30 PM

    I will never denounce people for making money and becoming billionaires. Anyone. But when presidents leave office and then make their 400k checks from Wall Street (latest obama) they show they do not deserve as big of a pension as they receive.

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    1. Bullshit! Every President who leaves office goes on a speaking tour afterward.

      Why is the first black president held to a different standard?

      And as for being paid by Wall Street, do you really think he went there and told them they are all doing a great job and to keep it up?

      Or do you think he might have talked about reforms needed in the business world, and laws put in place to protect the investors?

      You know who this President is, do you really think he pretends to be somebody else depending on who pays him?

      Bitch please.

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    2. Virginia12:59 PM

      Oh go fuck yourself, 12:30 PM.

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    3. Anonymous1:10 PM

      12:30
      I work in this industry and have seen many people who get paid because they are experts or celebrities or consultants.

      Mr. Obama is a man who gives a speech because he was invited to share his insight and experience.

      One of the best speeches I heard was Bono talking to bankers.

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    4. "But when presidents leave office and then make their 400k checks from Wall Street"
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      Oh, what utter nonsense. Making paid speeches does not equal thinking everything wall street does is great.

      Indeed, it is an opportunity to present a different perspective to financiers in terms they can understand (ex. healthy workers are productive workers, the more workers earn, the more they can buy, etc.).

      Are you seriously suggesting that no one should ever try to present another perspective to wall street bankers, or whoever else you consider to be untouchable, or that they should only do it for free?

      You are a damn fool. And a selfish, self-centered one, too.

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    5. Anonymous1:32 PM

      President Obama has well earned the big bucks for making speeches after his two-term presidency! He's a proven outstanding speaker that is eloquent, well spoken, knowledgeable, experienced as well as having done one heck of an outstanding job as our first, half-black POTUS!

      ALL presidents (of recent years) have provided speaking engagements after their term(s) have been completed and have been paid for doing so! My conclusion is that President Obama will surpass them all as to income generated for his speeches!

      Donald Trump has not and will NEVER measure UP to President Obama after he has completed his first term (or perhaps he'll never complete a 'first' term!).

      Trump is already a proven imbecile and does not represent this American woman or the majority of Americans!

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    6. Anonymous4:15 PM

      While $400,000 per year is an enormous amount of money to me, in the grand scheme of things, it's not a very large salary for the responsibilities of President of the United States. His pension is about half of that.

      Many CEOs, entertainers and pro athletes, on the other hand, get salaries in the multiple millions or even billions. Many top executives who are fired or forced to resign for failing to do their jobs still receive severance packages in the millions while the employees they betrayed lose everything. Are you as angry about what those people receive as you are about President Obama's speaking fee?

      Presidents of the United States sacrifice their privacy, their freedom, their safety, their peace of mind, and often their health while they are in office. Even after they are no longer in the White House, their lives are forever changed. With very few exceptions, they deserve every penny they get in government compensation during their terms and after, as well as whatever money they can earn on the open market.

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    7. How much did Jimmy Carter make for all his speeches to Wall Street? Anyone have a number?

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    8. Anonymous12:54 AM

      Exactly, 4:15, Exactly. Well said.
      JillyG

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    9. Anonymous6:45 AM

      But you have no problem with trump making money by shafting the taxpayers while in office and putting Wall St CEOs in his cabinet.

      It is called supply and demand and obviously President Obama is in big demand.

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  5. Anonymous12:34 PM

    I don't trust Trump at all. He constantly lies and is caught in them every time.

    I have a preexisting condition and am scared to death what my premiums are going to be as well as the things that will be allowed for coverage, care and tests. I worry too as to what I'll be expected to pay for my care as I have zero clue right now! There is no way we can even plan for our care financially with these idiot Republicans in charge!

    I've been able to pay for everything so far - Medicare, secondary (Blue Cross Premiera - the premiums go up each year, but are manageable), specific insurance for drug coverage and out-of-pocket costs for them.

    I worry as to my medical future under Trump and that is not good for a 70+ year old senior! Cannot image the worry of those in their 80's and 90's! May someone comfort them!

    There is NO plan as to what they are doing (Republicans) - no pertinent information being given - they are hiding everything!

    Donald Trump, his cabinet members, state governors, mayors, assembly heads and members that are Republicans throughout the land are NOT to be trusted! They do not work for America and Americans! I have zero respect, admiration and assuredly no trust for anyone that calls themselves a Republican! Are you noticing that many now are not showing the "R" behind their names throughout our country?

    Trump has turned our country upside down and needs to be eliminated, impeached or run out of D.C. ASAP! He is Satan himself!

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    1. Anonymous1:00 AM

      During the interview on Face The Nation this morning, Trump was pushed over and over on this and he hedged it bigly ;) but finally said it's going to be guaranteed - which means nothing since he/they haven't given any details as to what that coverage might cost or look like.
      Meanwhile, Pence was out there saying it would be left to the states to decide - he said they could decide to opt out of it "if they had a high risk pool to cover those who want/need it." Well, IMO, we all know that means higher premiums for those of us who do need it. That's kind of how it was before the ACA, isn't it? The only person in my family without a pre-existing condition is my husband. I'm thankful that the company he works for has a self-funded plan for our healthcare and that we'll likely be OK no matter what bill passes - but I sure do worry about the many others who don't have such luck.
      Praying they don't let this through unless it's comprehensive and affordable and guaranteed for ALL.
      JillyG

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  6. Wingnuts can't govern. Simple, undeniable fact of life. They can lie, obfuscate and obstruct. They can out spend Dems by trillions. They cannot govern.

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  7. Anonymous12:53 PM

    Trump Has No Idea What's In His Health Care Bill



    JOHN DICKERSON: So but in the bill, as it was analyzed, there were two problems. One, and you talked about this with Congressman Robert Aderholt, who brought you the example of the 64-year-old who under Obamacare the premiums--

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: But that was a long time ago, John.

    JOHN DICKERSON: But has that been fixed?

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Totally fixed.

    JOHN DICKERSON: How?

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: How? We've made many changes to the bill. You know, this bill is--

    JOHN DICKERSON: What kind though?

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: --very much different than it was three weeks ago.

    JOHN DICKERSON: Help us explain because there are people--

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: The bill--

    JOHN DICKERSON: --out there wondering what kind of changes.

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Let me explain. Let me explain it to you.

    JOHN DICKERSON: Okay.

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: This bill is much different than it was a little while ago, okay? This bill has evolved. And we didn't have a failure on the bill. You know, it was reported like a failure. Now, the one thing I wouldn't have done again is put a timeline. That's why on the second iteration, I didn't put a timeline.

    But we have now pre-existing conditions in the bill. We have -- we've set up a pool for the pre-existing conditions so that the premiums can be allowed to fall. We're taking across all of the borders or the lines so that insurance companies can compete--

    JOHN DICKERSON: But that's not in--

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: --nationwide.

    JOHN DICKERSON: --this bill. The borders are not in--

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Of course, it's in.

    Needless to say, it's not in. It might be in a future bill, but it's not in the current bill.

    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/04/trump-has-no-idea-whats-his-health-care-bill

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  8. Anonymous1:04 PM

    I watched 40 hours of GOP town halls, and here’s what I learned

    http://shareblue.com/i-watched-a-million-hours-of-gop-town-halls-and-heres-what-i-learned/

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  9. Anonymous1:06 PM

    Pence lied: Led the Flynn vetting process, knew about foreign ties

    Donald Trump's transition team vetted Michael Flynn and knew about his financial ties to foreign governments, but approved him for a sensitive national security position anyway. And Vice President Mike Pence, who was in charge of the entire process and lied about it afterwards, has finally been implicated in this growing scandal.

    The Trump administration is digging itself in even deeper over the scandal surrounding former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.

    In addition to his contacts with the Russian government, including being paid several thousand dollars for an appearance on state-owned television and his attendance at a dinner party with Vladimir Putin, Flynn also lobbied on behalf of the Turkish government. He later registered as a foreign agent after he was removed from the Trump administration.

    Back in March, speaking to Fox News, Vice President Mike Pence claimed that he was just then learning the news, saying, “Hearing that story today was first I heard of it.”

    But this is demonstrably false, as MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow laid out on her show.

    http://shareblue.com/pence-lied-led-the-flynn-vetting-process-knew-about-foreign-ties/

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-team-did-vet-flynn-hired-him-anyway-nbc-news-932519491657

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  10. Anonymous1:10 PM

    Republican strategist Rick Wilson confirms grand juries underway in Donald Trump’s Russia scandal

    Last night Palmer Report brought you the story of an inside source asserting that multiple grand juries are underway in Donald Trump’s Russia scandal, with one of them nearing completion. Now another source emanating from the other side of the political aisle is relying on different inside sourcing to confirm the same thing.

    The storyline began twenty hours ago when Washington insider Claude Taylor from the Bill Clinton White House tweeted that his inside source had told him that “two grand juries have convened” and that “one is almost complete” (link). Then this evening, longtime Republican strategist Rick Wilson responded to Taylor with a single definitive word: “same” (link). Taylor then went on to explain that he and Wilson had not communicated on this matter and were not relying on each other’s sourcing.

    Considering that Wilson and Taylor are from opposite sides of the political aisle, it’s nearly a given that they’re not coincidentally and unknowingly relying on the same source. That means this story is now confirmed from multiple sources and can be treated accordingly. So what does it mean for Donald Trump and his Russia scandal?

    http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/wilson-grand-jury-donald-trump-russia/2507/

    https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/858463055910498304

    https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/858163068731371520

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  11. Anonymous1:45 PM



    1) Two grand juries-two cases. One is a RICO case. The other is a FARA (Foreign Agents Registration Act) case.

    https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/858720744582377473

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  12. Anonymous3:36 PM

    There goes the liar in charge again. Making up shit. Next week some real news will be coming out for the collusion, treason and espionage charges. Looks like the ugly creep show will end very soon. Resign or Impeach? What will it be?

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  13. Anonymous6:18 PM

    The GOP bill brings back the state-based death panel High Risk Pools. That's what Trump's word salad means.

    So the onus will be placed on states, with the Feds guaranteeing a paltry 25 bil over 10 years to help the states out.

    HRPs have been utter failures - premiums too expensive for the individual and way way too expensive for states to administer. Some states jacked up taxes (sin, taxes on group-plans), or took general funds, or had annual/lifetime limits or limited enrollment or wait lists of 6 months, but every state still struggled financially.

    Studies have shown that the ACA's re-insurance to insurers is far cheaper to taxpayers than state HRPs.

    But because the re-insurance was part of Obama's legacy, who cares. Just go back to the HRPs and it'll take about 10 years for the rubes to once again figure out that HRPs are costly and inefficient death panels.

    The GOP plan not only will take us back to how awful it was before the ACA, but it's going to be much much worse.

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    1. Well, yeah.

      It is a signature of the Republicans to make whatever they touch much, much worse.

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  14. Perhaps this explains why Trump went on a Twitter rampage Sunday morning:

    -- quote

    Top Capitol Hill negotiators have reached a hard-won agreement on a huge $1 trillion-plus spending bill that would fund the day-to-day operations of virtually every federal agency through September.

    Aides to lawmakers involved in the talks announced the agreement after weeks of negotiations. It's expected to be made public Sunday night.

    The catchall spending bill would be the first major piece of bipartisan legislation to advance during President Donald Trump's presidency. It denies Trump a win on his oft-promised wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, but it gives him a $15 billion down payment on his request to strengthen the military.

    The measure rejects White House proposals to cut popular programs such as funding medical research and community development grants. It adds $1.5 billion for border security.

    Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CONGRESS_THE_LATEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-04-30-21-47-19

    -- end quote

    I'll bet on Sunday morning Trump was briefed about this development, he realized he had been rolled as irrelevant, and he exploded on Twitter.

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