Courtesy of HuffPo:Not even Jesus would buy into this and he's the forgiving sort pic.twitter.com/LBnnHIKRAh— Michele (@inthefade) August 30, 2017
Pastor Joel Osteen can’t seem to get his story straight about why he didn’t offer his 16,800-seat megachurch in Houston as a shelter sooner for those displaced by Hurricane Harvey.
During an appearance on NBC’s “TODAY” show Wednesday, the head of Lakewood Church said its doors have “always been open.” Minutes later, he appeared to reverse course and admit that the church hadn’t initially encouraged victims to seek shelter there.
“If people were here, they’d realize there were safety issues,” Osteen said during the TV appearance. “We were just being precautious, but the main thing is the city didn’t ask us to become a shelter then.”WATCH: “We were just being precautious, but the main thing is the city didn’t ask us to become a shelter then.” -Pastor @JoelOsteen pic.twitter.com/Qdn5vgm09H— TODAY (@TODAYshow) August 30, 2017
Dozens of Houston-area churches, schools and community centers opened their doors to offer temporary shelter to survivors as Hurricane Harvey pummeled the city earlier this week.
First off "precautious" is not a word.
And secondly what a load of bullshit.
For several days this Lakewood Church and its pastor were shamed on social media to open their doors and help those who desperately needed a warm dry place to stay.
Only THEN did they do anything to help.
Did Jesus refuse to multiply the loaves and fishes until somebody called him out on Twitter?
Did Moses only part the Red Sea after being shamed for sitting on his ass on Instagram?
Actually neither of those things actually happened, but you get my point.
If you are going to call yourself a Christian, and preach to people that they should love and care for each other, while accepting millions of dollars in donations, then shouldn't you at least PRETEND that you embrace the teachings of Jesus Christ?
Hey Zeus on a Cracker, Joel. You do NOT wait to be asked. You volunteer. Put some Christ in your phony grifting 'Christian" or, at a minimum give us the courtesy of at least reading your book of myths.
ReplyDeleteWhat does Zeus on a Cracker mean?
Deletewe need to be kind to true Christian-they need their God now. i said TRUE Christian-not the kind who want your money.
Delete2:49 PM; It's a non-xtian adaptation of "Jesus H. Christ on a Cracker".
Delete"Satan on a Saltine" might work as well, considering the fake Rev. Osteen's real persona.
version of "christ on a cross"
DeleteThis lying uncaring compassionless charlatan personifies how "christian" the Right Wing truly is.
ReplyDeleteThe plebeian right wing is really nothing more than primitive hateful superstitious low IQ tribalists. They think conman Trump is their savior. I had no idea there were so many of them. We are talking about retardation here.
DeleteHow Republicans Are Trying to Rig Elections in Trump's America
ReplyDeletehttp://www.newsweek.com/trump-republicans-maps-votes-power-race-districts-election-rigging-657072
Gryphen,
ReplyDeleteDo you know if Bristol and her posse beat feet back to AK before the storm? That would fit her usual MO.
Yeah maybe. Thought I saw Doughboy today being a weirdo stalker. Coulda been a look a like. Shrug.
DeleteIf she is an avid instagram devotee you would think she would be documenting an unusual memorable moment in real time for her children. If she is just using social media to create a fake persona, she may not want to deviate from what had already been planned for the faked family life she is selling.
DeleteWhat is she up to?
Is this the Doughboy you are talking about?
Delete"Your transition is so important. It's your future." - @Dakota_Meyer at #HOHCampPendleton
https://twitter.com/hiringourheroes/status/902550579435548672
He was with Mrs. Amos in California for a day or more. She has been a wonderful help and inspiration of his. They do job fair type events helping vets to find direction and jobs.
Barf$Tool and her spawn live on the outskirts of Austin. They did not see much rain there.
Deletehe immediately should have thought of using the building for shelter. period. that is what occurs to the minds of good and charitable people. he said he couldn't b/c without the building being official deemed a shelter they would not have received supplies. but it never occurred to him that someplace, anyplace, with little to nothing more to offer, was better than what people were enduring? he could have brought over blankets and pillows and clothes and food from his own house. he could have contacted people in his wide network of connections. supplies could have been brought in--fewer than with govt. help, but still something. the church was still dry when other places weren't. anything he says about water getting in doesn't make up for the fact that he never initially acted like a true man of god. i have family who live right alongside the barker reservoir (they left yesterday to stay in san antonio). there's a mosque nearby. the mosques have been taking people in. if the church couldn't be opened, what was he doing with his time? even with children, he's supposed to be his god's shepherd. he should have volunteered and rolled up his sleeves and helped.
ReplyDeleteThe Mosques and Temples were open to their flock along with anyone else. What irony.
DeleteIt's all pretend with these sociopaths. They are laser focused on the corinthian leather that the cloak of piousness affords them. Tithe often and magnanimously is their motto. And the simple fools line up and comply. God demands payment after all. 'He' is rather fickle. It's an ancient scam. You would think after millennium the 'tithers' would figure it out. They never get a meaningful return on their investment. But they never do. The lucky ones suffer only the infirmities of old age and die. The less lucky also suffer the decrepitude of additional illness. All the while the 'pious' ones enjoy the corinthian.
ReplyDelete"The city didn't ask us." Nor did they ask the thousands of people of all color who are out in boats and making human chains to rescue people, you JUDAS!
ReplyDeleteWhile "Judas" may be too strong a moniker for me, most all of them do it. The new gravy train that $arah is trying to hop aboard and failing miserably. I thought she was a JUDess from the time she hit the national stage, and how I found IM.
DeleteThank you, Gryph!
I've always wondered about and questioned Joel Osteen and his wife's lifestyle.
ReplyDeleteAs a man of God:
• They live in a 10.5 million dollar house.
• Look at their appearances, especially his wife and you will say to yourself there are kids that go hungry and do without while they look like that.
It's reported he doesn't receive a salary but when you watch his church services, he's always pushing items mentioned below and it appears that is how they make their personal money.
Also Google Joel Osteen's house and you will say wow.
Who am I to judge him, he may do a lot for people. It is a little hard for me to see his lifestyle while there are children living in poverty.
Internet:
It has been reported that Osteen stopped taking a $200,000 salary from Lakewood Church in 2005 and that his estimated net worth is $40 million. He also lives in a $10.5 million 17,000 square foot home with six bedrooms, six bathrooms, three elevators, five fireplaces, a guest house and pool house.
Also from the internet:
While Osteen has reportedly not taken a salary from his gigantic Lakewood Church since the ministry's move to the former home of the NBA's Houston Rockets in 2005, his wallet certainly hasn't been hurting for cash. Residing in a $10.5 million Houston mansion, Osteen reportedly banks over $55 million a year through the sales of his numerous best-selling books and related journals and study guides, according to Celebrity Net Worth.
Critics have previously claimed that Osteen uses his ministry, which reaches the homes of over 100 million people, as a vehicle for self-promotion and building his own fortune. Osteen has never shied away from defending his wealth, making no apologies for his success.
He takes Christmas off (what minister goes on vacation over CHRISTMAS?!) and he and the wife fly FIRST CLASS to sky in either Vale or Aspen, I don't remember which.
DeleteIf Jesus were alive he would be throwing this guy out of the "temple" and condemning him for the false prophet pharisee he is.
These are who the IRS should be investigating for their tax exempt status as a "church". I'll bet Osteen preaches politics from the pulpit.
I think we all know that Joel Osteen, Pat Robertson, Franklin Graham, Jerry Falwell and Jerry Falwell, Jr. are all in it for the lucre, not the love of Jesus. In the book of Luke Jesus teaches that those who wish to follow Him should dispose of their personal property. Can't see Joel giving his 11 million dollar house or Franklin giving his jet away. Guess these xtians don't take the New Testament to heart. I'd just like to see the IRS take their tax exempt status away. They remind me of our politicians, pad their pockets and fuck the rest of us. Pity the believers.
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Ewww, poor people. Some of them are thieves, some might even be prostitutes and some have icky diseases. Jesus did not have to put up with them so why should a successful and prosperous smart Christian preacher? Oh Hell No!
Deletei would have loved to have seen the look on falwell's face when he arrived in Hell!!
DeleteNone of the fake preachers whom you name, GeorgiaPeach, is a Christian. This brand of religiosity bears less and less resemblance to Christianity with each passing day.
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The GOP May Cut $1 Billion in FEMA Funds to Help Finance Trump's Border Wall
ReplyDeletehttp://time.com/4922472/house-republicans-fema-funding-cut-border-wall/
Now Comes the Uncomfortable Question: Who Gets to Rebuild After Harvey?
Deletehttps://theintercept.com/2017/08/30/national-flood-insurance-program-harvey-who-gets-to-rebuild/
One thing everyone should have learned from Katrina is do not wait for the government to come save you.
DeleteI think one reason Harvey hasn't become one big fiasco is all the citizen volunteers saving people.
Little donnie is going to dodge another bullet on this one because of this.
If nothing else angers Texans, the thought of having money taken away from FEMA to build Trump's insane wall should.
DeleteBeaglemom
We rebuilt after Sandy. We have a second home on the Jersey shore, for which we worked our assess off to afford the dream.
DeleteWe had flood insurance, so we got a fairly good deal, no complaints. But we get nothing from FEMA because it is not our primary residence, so we were out of pocket for about 10k plus the 3k the electrician demanded upfront but never returned to do the work.....
Anyway, people are in for a world of hurt and others are lying in wait to prey on them, without a doubt. Anyone with a vacation home on the coast also will not not not get any help to raise the house on stilts from government either. All our residential neighbors have raised their homes in NJ. We have to pay out of pocket, again since it is not primary residence. We are choosing right now not to spend 75k to do this. The price of our home is down, even after the rebuild, from what we paid and still owe on it.
Also, sorry for the rant, lots of people took the fema or insurance money and didn't do the repairs and kept the money. Several houses that weren't totally destroyed are toxic mold dumps, which they still rent to unsuspecting fellow citizens, while the owners kept the money to buy houses in Florida instead of fixing properly their NJ house.
This is going to be a shitshow of epic proportions in Houston.
joel is not a man of God. he is a worshiper of money, control, and power.
ReplyDeleteMy family has been Atheist for 4 generations and we do better by our fellow man than this cretin ever even dreamed.
DeleteIn my life I've found that an adherence to any "god" tends to bring out the worst in people.
All those "Gospel of Wealth" grifters are.
DeleteBastard was probably threatened with revocation of tax exempt status.
ReplyDeleteFox News Poll: Voters' mood sours, 56 percent say Trump tearing country apart
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Speaking of sad charlatans...
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Eric Trump Warns That Your Criticism Is Depressing Trump And Making Him Suicidal
ReplyDeletehttp://www.politicususa.com/2017/08/30/eric-trump-warns-criticism-depressing-trump-making-suicidal.html
Please criticize trump , please.
DeleteThat is his kryptonite, one of his weaknesses!
trump you are an imbecile! trump you are stupid .trump everyone's hates you!
Eye roll. Yeah. No he's ok.
DeleteHey Dumpster;
USA doesn't have time for your psychological romance!
Good.
DeleteLet's keep it up.
Chemical Plant Near Houston Warns It’s About To Explode
ReplyDeleteFlooding swamped backup generators, and volatile chemicals are getting warm enough to ignite. “There’s no way to prevent it,” the CEO said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/arkema-chemical-plant-crosby-texas_us_59a71237e4b07e81d354cda6?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
HOLY SH^TGIBBON!!!
DeleteFirst explosions have taken place with more expected. Evacuations within 1.5 miles were carried out on Tuesday.
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Joel Olsteen is a fraud and so is his slutty wife Victoria.
ReplyDeleteGive me a fucking break Joel .May I call you Joel or asswipe?
Hopefully for you,your precious rubes will believe your lying hypothetical horseshit!
You have been grifting these people for years,why not throw them a bone and allow them warmth and shelter.
It's their money after all.Just so that you know ,we are not stupid and see though you stupid excuses!
Flick you listen, you blew it shithead!!!!
Joel and his $Lutty wife peep thru those $quinty eyes and $mile to high heaven . Hallelujah Je$U$!
DeleteThe thought of "how much intake of $ale$ this cycle" makes them smile I suppose.
DeleteWonder if they bet on it?
Wow, he's one inbred looking mofo. No wonder all the idiots follow him....
ReplyDeleteI'm more concerned with him being a billionaire preacher yet he wasn't looking for the first chance to open the doors. However, there were cars parked outside which means people were inside. I will say it was pretty quick for them to get all those mattresses there. So who knows.
ReplyDeleteI do know I will never trust the immoral liberal media.
Really?
Deletehttps://www.yahoo.com/news/reporters-rescuing-people-texas-164859836.html
"Multiple reporters have rescued people stranded or endangered by the hurricane, sometimes even during live coverage (including a reporter from CNN, the network Trump repeatedly refers to as "Fake News").
On top of bringing the news to the country while facing dangerous conditions, these reporters sprang into action when they saw people in need. "
And yes, there is video.
""A basic weapon of regime changers, as fascists realized nearly a century ago, is to destroy the concept of truth. Democracy requires the rule of law, the rule of law depends upon trust, and trust depends upon citizens' acceptance of factuality."
Snyder added, "The president and his aides actively seek to destroy Americans' sense of reality. Not only does the White House spread 'alternative facts' but Kellyanne Conway openly proclaims this as right and good. Post-factuality is pre-fascism.""
Looks like you're swallowing the koolaid.
I hope when you're up to your ass in alligators there isn't a reporter around to save your sorry ass.
And here's the video of that "Fake News" CNN "Fake" reporter on video doing a "Fake rescue" of a "Fake" man.
DeleteOr would that be an alternative rescue?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cnn-reporter-dramatically-rescues-man-caught-harveys-floodwaters-161943453.html
"CNN’s Drew Griffin was preparing for a live shot Wednesday in Beaumont, Texas, where the man drove into a ravine, mistaking it for a road flooded by Tropical Storm Harvey. The man’s truck started sinking, and Griffin pulled him out using a rope, assisted by producer Brian Rokus and photographer Scott Pisczek, CNN said."
Rescued him, then interviewed him.
If you can believe that.
Maybe it was an Alt-interview?
ReplyDeleteLt Gen Russel Honore (Retired) calls #Harvey response "amateur hour" on @CNN.
POTUS please put the guy in charge who unfucked Katrina.
https://twitter.com/KrisK75USMC/status/903037214703190017/photo/1
Honore on Cnn just ripped the congratulatory meeting a new one. He is not mincing words. Houston is bigger than Katrina. Harvey aftermath will be worse. They have management has screwed up from day 1 (before).
Hard to imagine the body count will come anywhere close to the count for Katrina. Close to 1800 dead.
Delete4:42: Not SURE if we will ever get a real count this time around, because there are many little shantytowns affected. Shantytowns where undocumented immigrants lived - off the grid, with no running water, and no electricity (just like in third world countries). Also many towns where 'coloreds' live. They will NOT be counted, mark my words.
DeleteHouston is a larger city but it is more spread out than New Orleans. The greater cost this time will be in the cost of rebuilding, not in lives. Hey, good thing our pres is a real estate tycoon.
Delete7:32 PM - he won't fix it unless there's $$ funneling to him. Follow the money ALWAYS. Anyone remember Enron?
DeleteEven the "fake news" reporters are stopping what they're doing and rescuing people because there's no one else to do it.
Deletehttps://www.yahoo.com/news/reporters-rescuing-people-texas-164859836.html
"Multiple reporters have rescued people stranded or endangered by the hurricane, sometimes even during live coverage (including a reporter from CNN, the network Trump repeatedly refers to as "Fake News").
On top of bringing the news to the country while facing dangerous conditions, these reporters sprang into action when they saw people in need.
The stories of reporters dropping everything to help people during Harvey challenges the notion the media is full of America-hating liars bent on increasing viewership by any means necessary, as Trump would seemingly have people believe. "
John Fugelsang
ReplyDelete6 hrs
"Guys, I was all ready to help the lepers but I was waiting for Rome to ask me" - Jesus
Trump Pardon Plan Blown Up As Special Counsel Is Working With New York AG On Russia Probe
ReplyDeletehttp://www.politicususa.com/2017/08/30/trump-pardon-power-negated-special-counsel-working-york-ag-russia-probe.html
$108.401,500,000 is a lot of money.
DeleteMueller grand jury heard testimony from Russian operative who attended Don Jr.’s Trump Tower meeting
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Kushner tied to UAE diplomat snared in scandal involving embezzlement and trafficked women: report
Otaiba is said to be close to President Donald Trump’s son-in-law Kushner, who reportedly speaks with the UAE ambassador once a week to probe him for questions about Middle East policy.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/kushner-tied-to-uae-diplomat-snared-in-scandal-involving-embezzlement-and-trafficked-women-report/
The women were brought into the Abu Dhabi apartment in abayas.
“Pick who you want,” the men were told, and she would be theirs until noon the next day.
Roman Paschal recalled about seven women to choose from. They dropped their long cloaks, he said, revealing “nightclub clothes” underneath.
https://theintercept.com/2017/08/30/uae-ambassador-yousef-al-otaiba-double-life-prostitutes-sex-work/
Awe, and poor Toad is stuck in Alaska with 2nd hand ho.
DeleteJoel just wanted to keep his church pristine so that all those steeple who show up Sunday will feel at home and keep the donations coming in.
ReplyDeleteHaving all those unfortunates with their sleeping bags and mattresses lying around the place would be a buzzkill to Joel's operation.
I hate these prosperity gospel types including Joel. Their answer to every misfortune is that the victim only needs to be more sincere in their belief to avoid their misery (which assuredly can be accomplished by a healthy donation).
I always wondered what Joel would say to a homeless person sleeping under a bridge. His message that "god has a box of riches for you if you only believe hard enough" doesn't do much to comfort or help those in true need.
More Bullshit.
ReplyDeleteHe also said it was because of flooding.
And he said he would open it when the other shelters were at capacity. (I heard one was at almost DOUBLE capacity.)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/joel-osteen-apos-houston-megachurch-202025669.html
"Osteen and his wife live in a $10.5 million mansion in the upscale River Oaks neighborhood in central Houston. The neighborhood was hit with intense flooding over the weekend, with rescue teams coming to evacuate residents and their dogs. The preacher did not say whether his home was impacted."
Since when does any minister live in a $10.5 MILLION dollar house? Talk about a pharisee. Talk about a false prophet.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/joel-osteens-church-says-receiving-houston-residents-shelter-163003228--abc-news-topstories.html
"A Lakewood Church spokesperson told ABC News today its doors have always been open and the church is waiting for city officials to designate it as a shelter so it can obtain cots and other assistance. "
Again I call BULLSHIT!
"Among those who lost homes to flooding are two Lakewood Church pastors."
Now they're accepting supplies and donations.
WTF? This church makes money hand over fist and they're grifting for donations? I say let them stick their fat fingers into their own coffers. That's what they for!
For the lame excuse above, "there were cars in the church parking lot," give me a freaking break! Janitors cleaning, secretaries pumping out the Olsteen "donate to me" e-mails, of course there were. He had it locked down TIGHT until he was publicly shamed! I call bullshit to ALL of it. You don't wait for approval, lying bastard, he didn't want to pay for it nor clean up costs. Remember the Superdome Katrina?
DeleteALL the Mosques in Houston have opened their doors. Only SIXTY out of more than 1500 churches have opened theirs.
ReplyDeleteThere is NO safety issue with Oteens church - it was a sports arena before!
Workers trapped in a Mexican bakery made productive use of their time baking for hurricane relief.
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"While they were waiting for the eventual rescue that came Monday morning, four workers at El Bolillo Bakery’s South Wayside Drive branch decided to make as many loaves of bread as possible for their community.
As the flood waters rose in the streets outside, they took advantage of their continuing power supply and used more than 4,200 pounds of flour to create hundreds of loaves and sheets of pan dulce."
"“By the time the owner managed to get to them, they had made so much bread that we took the loaves to loads of emergency centers across the city for people affected by the floods,” the store’s manager, Brian Alvarado, told The Independent."
I have to say I kinda like "precautious"
ReplyDeleteIt's like the time before you are being careful, oh, like, say, before the thing you will be cautious about causes you any concern, mainly because you do not know about it yet.
The whole idea is that it is almost the opposite of being "precocious", which we might have said of Osteen if he had had the idea to offer his big church set as a shelter before anyone had to ask.
So, in admitting that he was being precautious, he admits he has no brain and no heart.
And hooray for new words.
I shall retire to bed soon, but not before I have drinken the last swig of my coffee.
Simple $arah just added a new word to her "I Smart" dictionary.
DeleteGov. of Texas gave the OK for the Mexican Red Cross to come and deliver aid.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.yahoo.com/news/mexicos-red-cross-delivers-aid-storm-ravaged-houston-024412762.html
"Mexico's Red Cross sent an envoy of volunteers to storm-devastated Houston on Wednesday, hours after Texas governor Greg Abbott said the state accepted an offer of aid from the Mexican government, including vehicles, boats, supplies and food.
At least 25 people have been killed and tens of thousands driven from their homes after Harvey came ashore on Friday near Corpus Christi as the most powerful hurricane to hit Texas in more than half a century, swamping Houston with record rains and flooding.
The support from Mexico's Red Cross, a non-government agency, is separate from the official aid offer.
The convoy of 33 English-speaking volunteers left from Mexico City for Texas, where they plan to work in Houston shelters for 20 days before being replaced by a fresh crop of volunteers.
Abbott said his state would accept the offer of assistance from neighboring Mexico as Harvey, now a tropical depression, spun across southeastern Texas into Louisiana on Wednesday, sending more people fleeing for shelter."
Because the Red Cross is private and not government, they were allowed to cross the border.
Trump administration still sitting on offer from Mexican Government. (Because they're poopyheads and I guess it would look bad for those rapists and bad hombres to be providing help the U.S. can't.)
The Red Cross and other agencies are depending of everyday people for donations; I want to see these non-profit churches and corporations to step it up.
ReplyDeleteWhere are the donations from the oil companies that make billions in quarterly profits? As far as I can see all they have done is immediately raise the price of gasoline, even if it doesn’t come from TX.
Leave it to the oil companies to make a profit off a national disaster.
As for Joel, what about his followers, aren't they allowed to take shelter in his church or is that only on Sunday?
This is what you get when a real phony makes you believe that he and his mission (sic) are real. What a disgrace! I doubt he can recoup his (so-called) reputation. The City of Houston should not have to ASK for help for these poor souls!
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