With the rise of prenatal screening tests across Europe and the United States, the number of babies born with Down syndrome has significantly decreased, but few countries have come as close to eradicating Down syndrome births as Iceland.
Since prenatal screening tests were introduced in Iceland in the early 2000s, the vast majority of women -- close to 100 percent -- who received a positive test for Down syndrome terminated their pregnancy.
While the tests are optional, the government states that all expectant mothers must be informed about availability of screening tests, which reveal the likelihood of a child being born with Down syndrome. Around 80 to 85 percent of pregnant women choose to take the prenatal screening test, according to Landspitali University Hospital in Reykjavik.
Whether you agree with the choices made by these women or not, the important thing is that the women of Iceland, and in most places in America, have a CHOICE about what do with their bodies and their future. And whatever that choice it certainly does not put them in the same category as Nazis!
This is just more hateful rhetoric from Sarah "This is not even my real child" Palin.
In her interview Palin kept talking about "snuffing out the life" of the fetus, but in fact until the baby is born it does not yet have an actual life to be snuffed out.
It is still a fetus, living inside its host body, and the host is calling all of the shots.
Palin also kept referring to these children as not looking like normal every day children, but in fact it is not their appearance which determines the life they will lead, it is their many disabilities.
And let's talk about the life of a child with Down syndrome, a population that I work with quite often.
Yes, they can have relatively normal lives and even become contributing members of society.
That happens. Sometimes.
But their parents will never really have what could be considered a "normal" life since their child will typically ALWAYS be dependent upon them.
It is very helpful if you are wealthy, like the Palins, but if you are not, the financial burden of endless testing, doctor's visits, and special accommodations can be overwhelming.
If you do not think that you are ready for that kind of responsibility, than you probably are not.
Sarah Palin is not somebody who should be giving ANYBODY shit about their life choices, period!
And if Palin is looking for somebody to compare to Nazis, well she is in luck.
I'm not the first to realize that when the coffers and attention go by the way side, out she pulls Trig.
ReplyDeleteVery wealthy like the Palins, Gryph? They did NOTHING to get the therapies he needed at a young age to give him a fair shot. They just used him like the purchased mascot he is to further her political ambitions.
When she lost in '08, she was going to back to Alassska to further DS Awareness and programs, yet she did nothing of the sort. No WAY am I watching that video. Lying SKANK.
There's no real money in it for her, and $he knows $he'd have to walk the walk. Uh uh, $he aint gonna do that!
DeleteGood. There are enough "normal" people overburdening the resources of this earth without having people birth more of those that require more than their fair share of medical and personal attention and are never truly able to benefit society as a whole.
ReplyDeleteI get that some women are attached to each zygote that takes root in their uteruses but seriously, the time is now to be more than just a bit picky about adding to our population crisis.
Hopefully what our medical technology will finally accomplish is that we are able to choose our children; choose their characteristics and intelligence and only birth those who will add to society and assist in solving the myriad problems that are leading to our ultimate demise.
I know a lot of people call these little genetically compromised humans " a gift from god" but seriously, what kind of god would have such a cruel streak, oh, wait, never mind.
Ain't no god to blame lol. It' called biology and errors of biology. It's great that science has evolved that we can prevent these biologic errors from continuing on to be born.
DeleteHey we just witnessed genetically compromised alt right hating souls behaving bad. Did mommy and daddy breed hate into their minds? Did they modify genes to get that hate to sink in?
DeleteTY, 6:02 PM!
DeleteIf you've never known an individual with Downs in your life, you may feel like the above commenters do.
DeleteWe had a wonderful Downs lady in our family for nearly 63 years. It is very true that these individuals will always, ALWAYS, need someone responsible for their welfare in some way. This dear lady had family devoted to her care. She was capable and motivated to do her best in everything. She could read and write, she held down a job and she was a devoted auntie. You never had to ask her twice to help you with something. She taught us all more about unconditional love than anyone else. I know not every individual with Downs Syndrome is as capable as our aunt was, or as loving and funny(she loved to joke around). But i wouldn't trade the memories of her, or what she taught me about love and the human experience for Anything. She is sorely missed.
There was a DS boy in my community when I was growing up, a few years older than I was. He was known to all the girls in the neighborhood--he'd try to pull up our shirts and try to stick his hand down our pants, so we tried to stick together to fight him off. His parents insisted he could do no wrong and he was one of god's ANGELS. Not even close.
DeleteWHOA, 10:34 that sucks!
DeleteThat kid's parents really shouldn't have become parents, or even have a dog, with that shitty attitude not based in reality. Poor parenting.
11:46--I think the boy's parents just KNEW he was one of those magical Down Syndrome people who are soooo much better than ordinary humans. The way people fetishize DS people is just sick.
DeleteWhen I was pregnant with my daughter, a blood test came back saying that she had a pretty high chance of having Downs Syndrome, so at that point I gained the right to an amniocentesis test, which normally was only offered to women who were 35 or older. So for a lot of years in this country, most Down Syndrome children have been born to younger women, because younger women couldn't get amniocentesis if they wanted it. The difficult choice for me was that the amnio couldn't really be done until 15 or 16 weeks, and I knew that it would be a much harder decision for me to choose to end a 17 or 18 week pregnancy, rather than say an 8 or 10 week pregnancy. Fortunately, my test came back fine and we never had to make the decision. Nowadays, I believe that they have much, much earlier tests which are less invasive than amnio.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I would never expect any other woman to terminate a pregnancy for any reason, it's their life, their choice, as far as I'm concerned. But I am very disturbed that other people, like Sarah Palin, are only too happy to force someone like me into a lifetime of stress and medical bills to care for a handicapped child until I died, and all the while worrying about who would take care of that child after I was gone. Interestingly, a friend of mine with a Down Syndrome sibling told me that she loves her sister deeply, but that she herself knew that she could not handle raising a Down Syndrome child, that she didn't have what it took. And, it often ends up that the surviving siblings are the ones who have to take on the care of a disabled sibling after their parents die, so Sarah Palin not only feels comfortable forcing pregnant women into an overwhelming life, but she has no problem forcing the siblings into it as well.
And, think about this, what if the siblings refuse to do it? Then your child may become institutionalized, abused, taken advantage of, etc. There is a lot to think about, and I certainly wouldn't judge anyone who was presented with that scenario.
THIS!
DeleteIt IS a choice way before it becomes a child. Like, 6 months. And even then, it may not be able to breathe right on its own.
No woman should ever be used as a forced incubator.
This is an extremely personal decision between mother and father. Nobody knows their situation. But! What is necessary is that people have a brain. Sex=baby. Don't breed if you cannot handle the plan and outcome. And this medical procedure is not your birth control plan. Be responsible especially if at risk. Sara has a long road ahead. A lifetime. HUGE as was said she will never have a normal life of children growing up and leaving home.
ReplyDeleteDon't breed if you cannot handle the outcome? Well fuck you very much.
DeleteVery few use abortion as "birth control".
DeleteWhich brings up the interesting fact that the anti-abortion crowd is also anti-birth control. Now there's an oxymoron. If you were against abortion, wouldn't you want free and accessible birth control to prevent those unwanted pregnancies?
But NO. They are anti-SEX. It's the Puritanical scarlet letter thing.
Of course, looking at some of them is motivation enough to get your relevant tubes tied.
Kim Davis.
Mike Pence.
Steve Bannon.
Anyone at that Nazi march in Charlottesville.
What's your problem, 5:13 PM? I'm not the OP, but true!
DeleteThere is something to say about planned parenthood and receiving the gift of Love from your father and mother that wanted a child.
Deletemialuppa at 5:26 pm. You are so right. if every fetus has a "right to life." then it also has a right to be able to live that life and grow up. It has always bothered me that the "right to life" folks are so unwilling to provide anything else: health care, education, adequate housing, good employment opportunities for the parents, etc. Life doesn't end with birth; it begins then.
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mialuppa at 5:26 pm. You are so right. if every fetus has a "right to life." then it also has a right to be able to live that life and grow up. It has always bothered me that the "right to life" folks are so unwilling to provide anything else: health care, education, adequate housing, good employment opportunities for the parents, etc. Life doesn't end with birth; it begins then.
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"Don't breed if you can't handle the outcome?"
Delete@5:38, it sounds like @455 wants to control other people's sex lives, like the kreeeschuns, et al, want to do.
If you are a consenting adult with another consenting adult, I don't give a damn what you're up to. As long as it doesn't involve animals or kids, neither which can give consent.
Sounds like you're pushing abstinence as birth control to me. Head on back to your church, catholic or protestant. They LOVE that stuff there.
Gosh Sarah, you have crucified those you cannot forget. Now, you try to spread the bullshit around? Eye roll. Looks like someone sobered you up. Or is it a ruse? Tomorrow you'll be wasted. Like father, like daughter there Sarah. Beers.
ReplyDeletelol, beers instead of cheers.
DeleteYea a bunch of deadbeat dads and moms not supporting their children and expecting everyone to support, feed, teach and love their children while they attend hate filled rallies.
ReplyDeleteOh look Sarah, even the hired help reads you like a 25c comic book. Animated.
DeleteEasy to tell others what they should do when you never were actually faced with the tough choice, huh Sarah? No matter how pretty a picture you try to paint these children are a burden to their families. Especially when you don't bother to give them the proper foundation in life because you're too busy flying around the country being a "star".
ReplyDeleteSarah already dumps Trig, in fact has put the burden of Trig's care on others for his entire life. Should the Repubs ever take away his check then it's to an institution he goes.
DeleteWhy didn't she just admit that she adopted a Down's baby? Does she get a free pass on not providing early intervention if she claims to have birthed him as opposed to selecting him? That's what I can't figure out.
DeleteWe know parents, now in their 80s and with failing health, who have a son, past 50 by now and not in good health, and still are responsible for him. We've wondered what will happen when the parents die. We also know that if their son predeceases them, they will be devastated. The parents were certainly not pleased to have a son with such disabilities (not Down Syndrome), they've never complained and have done everything possible to provide for him. But, after their death, it will simply not have been enough.
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Does the kid still only eat apple sauce?
DeleteA parasite needs a host and there arre many white men in this country that seem to think it is their job to dictate women's issues as part of their job as politicians. How does interfering in every aspect of a woman's life get government off their backs?
ReplyDeleteMy husband attempts to dictate me, too, breast cancer fight. It's my choice and butt out!
DeleteControl freaks cannot control themselves. Shrug.
DeleteIf these Fascists want to force women to take to term every fertilized egg that plants itself, then they in turn should be forced to adopt every unwanted fetus brought to term against the mother's will. No mommy shaming. The Mother should be allowed to hand over that baby with the genetic abnormalities and these bible thumpers should immediately be held liable for all medical bills from conception onward. They pay for that kid for everything from that moment on. They should be forced to pay not only for all medical test and therapies but educational remediation too. (All of the stuff TriG hasn't gotten.) They can quit their job and stay home with the kid for the rest of their lives. No nannies for them. And not just one. They should be forced to take every unwanted full term pregnancy in an endless cycle of your turn's next. Ad infinitum until they die. Sorry, but no aging out of this. You can't be against birth control AND abortion and still live your tidy little life pointing fingers. You put up or shut up. And since these righteously indignant bible thumpers won't shut the fuck up, time they stepped up and got handed god's little gifts. One a year should do it.
ReplyDeleteAnd no, you may NOT have government subsidies. That would be tit-sucking at the tax payers expense, now, wouldn't it. I'm sure you're against that too.
Damn straight and well said and everything!
DeleteYep. And then you can happily send all your male children to fight and possibly die in a war waged solely to fill the coffers of our politicians, corporations and military contractors.
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Except if your born of a politician, GeorgiaPeach, that's for us peasants! Just like healthcare, until it happens to them, they will never know.
Delete$arah just screeches like the washed up old broad that she is. Not our fault that she couldn't pass the muster. Dumb is dumb.
Coming up on the third anniversary of the Palin Drunken Brawl, September 6th, who listens to her anymore? A leopard doesn't change its spots.
ReplyDeleteThe LIE of "wild ride" Trig to gain her national political cred and veep, until they found out who she was afterward after she lost. Forever more the hatred of "the elite" she SO wanted to be a part of. She didn't give birth to Trig, and everyone knows it!
Also too, her endorsement of Tanner Ainge R-Utah, son of NBA star and coach Danny, bombed yesterday in the primary. He came in third.
Ahhh, thanks for the reminder of the anniversary of The Thrilla from Wasilla!
DeleteNever forget....*snicker*
Poor Bristol, if she had told Sarah she was preggers sooner and had had a prenatal test, probably would have appreciated having the chance to abort the Tri-G pregnancy, dontcha think?
ReplyDeleteBristol just had to find the right loser to marry in order to "complete" herself, and boy did she!
DeleteHow many trial daddies did she have? I lost count. at least they were somewhat smarter than her to say, "I'm out of here!"
DeleteThey all run as fast as possible at some point.
DeleteShe got a Junker baby!
DeleteThe latest kid just miiight be DOH's.
Beefy posted a couple Insta's of the 2 girls together. Big Mistake. They couldn't look more like they have different dads.
Didn't screech claim to warn family in advance of trig's tri g as the story goes. Or as others say,bristol just partied til she popped not knowing the baby was fas. Many different stories out there.
Delete2:43; there are many, many different versions of the story. Either "God" wrote a letter to Sarah telling her how wonderful DS people are, or 14-year-old "Doctor" Willow was the first to diagnose the DS--even before the real doctors!--or Trig was born in Anchorage at 6.5 months or else Wasilla at 7.5 months. There are so many versions, all spouted by Sarah herself. You'd think a mother would know when her own baby was born.
DeleteSarah Who?
ReplyDeleteWho said this? The Nazis? Skinheads? Sarah Palin?
ReplyDelete“How about the rest of us? Right-winging, bitter-clinging, proud clingers of our guns, our God, and our religion, and our Constitution.”
"If you do not think you are ready for that kind of responsibility, then you probably are not."
ReplyDeleteHmmm, I remember in a column about abortion a few years ago you (Gryphen) claimed that many women don't realize how well they could meet the challenge of raising a child not planned for. You used your mother's pregnancy at age 15 as an example.
You are a big hypocrite on this issue.
I was talking about an unplanned pregnancy, not the possibility of giving birth to a child with significant abnormalities, such as a congenital hear disease, Autism, or Down Syndrome.
DeleteThose are entirely different challenges.
The fact that you would presume to know better how "prepared" any woman is for an unplanned pregnancy makes you a hypocrite. You don't know shit about anything just cause your mother had you at age 15. If she feels that way she could speak for herself but butt out of another woman's business.
DeleteAutism cannot be predicted in vitro yet that I know of. This is why we need science.
DeleteGryphen is correct. pregnancy and children, planned or unplanned, is the biggest challenge or choice a woman can make. some of us are not fit to be mothers, myself inncluded.better we don't.don't.
DeleteGet off Uncle G's dick.
DeleteNot every woman even wants a kid. I'm childless by choice and me and the hubbs catch hell for it sometimes, moslty from parents who want to see us as miserable as they are. I'm extremely happy about having no kids. I wouldn't have been a good mom, since I didn't want to ever BE one, d'y'see?
Uncle G's mom had it rough, but they got thru it. Uncle G's posted about some nasty child abuse he suffered thru at the hands of one of mom's boyfriends. I'm sure they'd both like to go back and change that. They got thru it, and they still have each other. He has broken the cycle of child abuse by how he raised his own daughter. That screams success to me. He's pro-choice, and always invited to dinner at my house because of it.
There are some people with reading comprehension issues here.
DeleteBasically Gryphen just said that women should have a choice but if the fetus is destined to be disabled, the woman should have 'more choice".
520. Hey. After my coffee came thru my nose from laughing at the first line.
DeleteOh it stung awhile. Your funny.
Choice. Have a child or not. No ones business but yours. Having been a special ed teacher for multi disabled kids for 30+ years, I saw 1st hand what stresses the families (most often the mothers and grandmothers) were under. Some were able to rise to the occasion, many did not. No one but the parents should make the decision to have a special needs child. As has been noted, care for these children never ends. Who is going to take on the responsibility of these kids after they reach adulthood and the parents are elderly or dead? Things to think about,
ReplyDeleteI have autistic grandchildren, and I will be there for them until the day I die.
Deletemy aunt was brain damaged at birth. my grandparents spent their lives taking care of her. she got social security disability under granpa and was in a very nice private institution sense(?) she was a teenager. she died this year in her 80's. my sisters keep an eye on her for ten or so year. she was violent and uncontrollable. they know-theyKNOW they will never live a "normal" life, and it hurts them. thoughts and lifetime plans must be made, and not everyone can do that. and they are targets for abuse and rape. the paper work for my aunt including getting her spayed like a dog. my granparents refused. i t was a good, exspensive "home". she was happy.
DeleteAnd after you're dead? Who will watch out for their best interests? Not advocating anything. Just curious.
DeleteSaint Sarah thinks thru all her lies about trig being birthed from her hoochie,she deserves some kind of medal. Sorry girlfriend,you don't deserve any credit for knowingly crapping out someone else's special needs kid the dr had said may have issues, only to drop the ball in giving him the very best skills available to move thru life that you possibly could. The child can't talk,eat. He shits his pants. Selfish bitch. You tell me,sarah..which is worse,the life you've sentenced trig to,after you've shuffled him off to an institution? You tired long ago of tending to your "son","give me the baby,not the retarded one,"or instead ,just another Palin "whiteout"?? Think of Trig you stupid snatch,not you for once in your life.
ReplyDeletelets not draw Trig into this. he is as innocent as we get. he seems to be high functioning and maybe be able to live on his own one day. i worked in a work shop for the development disabled and they work better than some "normal" people.
DeleteHow do you know he's high functioning? Taking their words and pictures for it?
DeleteTriG is drug and in vitro alcohol abuse damaged. Not Down's.
DeleteFAS kid. Granny did nothing to promote Downs,because the downs people would see thru her lies.It was still party time in vetro for baby. Now the child pays the price. What say you,bristol? ?
DeleteDinosaurs and Sarah Palin.. one is extinct, the other is a prehistoric creature.
ReplyDeleteHuffington Post just did a story on how Trump is basking in the glow of all the division. It takes the heat off of him as he slowly dismantles our government entities that could undermine his stay in the White House. They say, he is fighting for not the survival of our country but for himself.
ReplyDeleteSo, America goes down so Trump can survive? That's parasitic.
Gryph,you already knew Screech would make it all about her "selfless act". She spends her days keeping her eye on Putin and fishing for attention on the internet.
ReplyDeleteYeah, she's envious that Donald is more evil than she, and angry because he only uses her when he needs her.
DeleteIf you go on fb you can see how their base builds them up. Spouting that God wants Donald to do the things he's doing. My guess, is they don't mean GOD, GOD, but the devil himself. Donald, I am sure is the puppet to the anti-christ who is Putin. His many victims would agree.
watch for Sarahs next scream for attention-a xxx movie. isn't that the last gasp of a failing celebrity?
DeleteMaybe that's their ticket to fame like the classless,no talent Kartrashions. A Palinkartrashion sex tape! Starring...ugh,never mind.
DeleteSarah & Trig, meet Dr Mengele. Good luck.
ReplyDeleteHttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
I still would like to know how Trig got medical insurance with the requested "birth certificate." I would like to know the birth date on that certificate.
ReplyDeleteInsurance fraud.
DeleteHey, we need to wait 100 years. But, I'm putting in my will for my decedents to publish them long after I am dead and gone. lol
DeleteHey there is DNA. Why wait?
DeleteTell mommy shits about to get real sweetie pie. Tanks. :()o
I have a friend who was given a macaw parrot. My friend was 45 at the time. The parrot was 20. Macaws can live up to 100 years. He was actively looking for someone to take care of his parrot when he died. Imagine if that was your child who needed looking after. Who would you trust? My friend has considered euthanasia for the parrot upon his death. And, yes, I said, "No". Pretty bird. Not my parrot, not my problem.
ReplyDeleteI'm happy for him to have his parrot and I like his parrot and feel no ill will towards it, but I feel no compulsion to look after it when he's gone. If that makes me a heartless bitch, so be it. He didn't ask me if I wanted a parrot. I don't.
GeorgiaPeach
There are exotic bird sanctuaries. Most are brimming full, but maybe your friend could try looking into it?
DeleteThese birds should NOT be kept as pets, period. They have a biological attachment that doesn't jive well with moving them from one caretaker to the next. They are so intelligent, and they feel emotional pain like we do. They latch onto ONE person strongly, and this is what they'd do in the wild with their chosen mate, if they were living where they should be. This survival adaptation doesn't translate well into human-pet world often.
Please do not support the exotic bird trade, people! GeorgiaPeach, I don't want a bird as a pet, they have creeeeepy looking feet, and wings are for flying, not being kept prisoner in a cage. I've seen plenty of documentaries about the exotic bird trade. The birds suffer terribly, all because some human wanted one for vanity's sake and didn't think to see things from the bird's POV.
We need to accept that we're all mongrels. And better because of it. And interrelated, despite our color.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.statnews.com/2017/08/16/white-nationalists-genetic-ancestry-test/
GeorgiaPeach
DING DING DING!
DeleteWe all are inter related in l way or another. Cradle of man.
Deletei worked with Down's syndrome adults and they are the happiest and most loving people you will find. however,they are a lifetime and more commitment. there is a very easy answer to this and abortions-it's called birth control, and it's cheap and easy to find-Walmart, supermarkets anywhere, and it's easy to use. think before you f**k.
ReplyDeleteBirth control does NOT prevent Down Syndrome. Are you crazy??
DeleteThey're very loving. Especially after they reach puberty and then begin sexually assaulting women and girls they "love" in full view of other people.
DeleteUnless you are Bristol and have your virginity stolen by wine coolers.
DeleteEveryone that I know who has had a Down's pregnancy was married and actively trying to start or enlarge their family. Are you saying that if a woman does not think that she can handle raising a Down Syndrome child, then she should not have any children at all? Early testing and then giving the parents all of the pertinent information to make the best choice for their situation is the solution, not, "Just don't have any kids at all if you can't handle a severely disabled child".
Delete@8:04--no that isn't what was said. The only way to prevent a Down's baby is to not have a Down's baby, hence birth control. There are tests that can predict Down's Syndrome, and then it is that parent's right to make whatever decision is right for their lives, not anyone else's.
Delete8:13. The neighbors say bristol was a rill howler when she'd visit her rapist's home,climbing in his window. Guess it was assaults with "benefits"?
DeleteDS adults aren't angels on Earth; they are human beings. Sometimes they're cranky and sometimes they're angry and sometimes they're irrational and mean.
Deleteper-MAN-en'T' hardon.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/say-the-revolution-is-coming-i-cant-get-enough-bannon-dares-the-left-to-tear-down-more-statues/
Does she look and sound as wasted as ever? Bleh not going to even look at pick.. bleh.
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin is the definition of trash, disgraceful, and fraud. Karma is a bitch SP.
ReplyDeleteSteve Bannon just gave his own Scaramucci-style unsolicited interview and it's a doozy
ReplyDeletehttps://www.vox.com/2017/8/16/16159668/steve-bannon-china-economic-war-north-korea-charlottesville-american-prospect
‘I Am So Uncomfortable Having This Conversation’: Fox Host On Neo-Nazis
Fox News host Melissa Francis on Wednesday said she was “uncomfortable” being questioned about her staunch defense of President Donald Trump’s remarks blaming “both sides” for violence that erupted at a white supremacist rally where participants changed Nazi slogans over the weekend in Charlottesville, Virginia.
“He never said equal blame,” Francis said on Fox News’ “Outnumbered.” “No one said equal, and that’s one of the places where this went off the rails.”
“He said there were ‘very good people’ among the neo-Nazi protesters,” Fox News contributor Marie Harf replied. “He did — don’t roll your eyes! He did say those words, Melissa.”
“He didn’t say there were ‘very good people among neo-Nazi protesters.’ He didn’t say that. Find that,” Francis shot back.
“He said there were very good people on the other side,” Harf said. “It was clear what he was talking about.”
“There were people that were opposed to the statues coming down. Look, can I tell you this? I am so uncomfortable having this conversation,” Francis said.
She became visibly emotional and appeared to fight back tears as she continued,
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-host-uncomfortable-talking-about-neo-nazis
Trump, in his initial reaction, repeated "on many sides, on many sides." His clear intention was to ascribe "equal" blame to the counter protesters and to minimize the evilness of the neo-Nazis and white supremacists. Trump then half-handedly tried to roll back what he had said: it didn't work and it doesn't work for Mr. Alt-Right to try to walk back his boss's nastiness now.
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Hacker Group Anonymous Takes On The Alt-Right
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Mayor of Phoenix to Donald Trump: cancel your rally
ReplyDeletehttp://www.palmerreport.com/politics/mayor-of-phoenix-to-donald-trump-dont-come-here/4354/
New York Times editor testifies in Sarah Palin’s defamation lawsuit
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The fact that a former CIA leader – a figure who likely wouldn’t engage in political arguments with a sitting president – is calling out Trump speaks volumes about the line this president has crossed over the past week.
ReplyDeleteIt’s not just Democrats and independents now breaking with this president over his support of white supremacists and Nazis, but Republicans, the intelligence community, and members of the military have also had enough.
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/08/16/ex-cia-head-trumps-response-charlottesville-lasting-harm-american-society.html
Rachel Maddow Blasts WH Officials For Standing By Trump As He Defends White Supremacists
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The argument that women should not be allowed to test for Down Syndrome because it is making Down Syndrome people too rare or possibly extinct is a rather weird one. That's like saying we should never have invented the Polio vaccine because there won't be enough paralyzed people, or we shouldn't have invented the treatment for leprosy because there won't be enough people to fill the old leper colonies. No it doesn't mean that we will no longer value the Down Syndrome people who are already born, or the few that will be born in the future, it's about lessening unnecessary/unwanted suffering. I have a son with life threatening allergies.......if he had the choice of having a child without allergies, he would take it, because he knows how inconvenient/scary it can be. It doesn't mean that he wouldn't love a child that was born with allergies, that's ridiculous. There is a huge difference between a small clump of cells that is a potential child, and an actual child. Unfortunately, the Right To Life people don't see a distinction. If they did, maybe they would care more about making sure that actual living and breathing children had healthcare and enough food to eat.
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Exactly.
DeleteThat "right to life" crap is just a cover for "I'm in control of your sex life now".
Not until there's not 1 orphan left in USA will I even begin to buy that crap.
Best thing would be a cure for Down, which is probably not far off considering big advances in gene therapy.
DeleteTrump Killed The Republican Party, It’s Now The ‘Republic-KLAN Party’
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CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC Anchors Have Not Been Able to Book Single Republican
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Don’t Look Now, But Alt-Right Demonstrations Are Scheduled for Nine Cities Next Weekend
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/white-supremacist-rallies-are-planned-for-at-least-nine-cities-this-weekend-heres-what-to-expect/
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Well, if we agree to the fiction that Sarah Palin is really Trig's mother (and it takes a stretch to do that), then she had a right to proceed with the pregnancy just as another woman has and has had the right to terminate it. What anyone else chooses is no business of Sarah Palin's or of ours.
ReplyDeleteThe real tragedy with Trig Palin is that his family failed to provide him with the optimal treatment since his arrival on the scene. He has been, instead, used repeatedly as a pawn to get his "mother" news space. Looks like it worked again.
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The child wasn't expected to live.
DeleteThey were anticipating the death of the special-needs infant and all the attention and sympathy that comes from that. What a distraction from Whose Uterus Did He Come From that would've been.
Except that the kid pulled thru.
I disagree that they would have used baby Trig's expected death for attention. He was not wanted by Sarah. If she had kept watch on her then Bristol would have had a legal, safe, private abortion.
DeleteHow about we compromise on the "Pro-life" "Pro-Choice" cluster?
ReplyDeleteHowsabout IF a woman carries a Downs Syndrome child to term then she is allowed free (government-paid) health-care and all that entails (child-care, for example) for her and the child for the rest of their lives?
(You know - like our President and Congress-critters get?)
SURELY the pro-lifers out there would have to agree to THAT, right?
Howsabout we encourage our congress-critters to include THAT in the next anti-abortion bill? Whattayasay?
damn, Randall, that's a good one!
DeleteCut the crapola. Nothing better than a roll in the hay in the twenties. Yep. Sex is sacred. Sex is important. Sex is real. And most important is that sex creates life. We must teach our children to respect life, cherish our right to choice. And be thoughtful in their walk through life of others.
ReplyDeleteMaybe teach them about mutual sexual consent while teaching them about sperm and egg?
DeleteMaybe each them to be choosy about the sex partners, too. Just because they trip your trigger, doesn't make em good life-partner material. How many times has that great lay turned out to be a really bad character, only found out too late?
You mean like Sarah Inkkk stomped other people's? Gotcha. Wink. Wink. Eye roll.
DeleteGrow up old man. Grow up.
In at least one interview, Sarah Palin claimed she thought about having an abortion in New York, where nobody knew her. IF you believe she was actually pregnant with a DS baby, then by her own words, she considered aborting it.
ReplyDeleteThere's a middle-aged mom who brings her PROFOUNDLY affected Down syndrome daughter to the local public pool occasionally. The daughter takes a foam noodle and her favorite toy (a honey serving dauber) and floats in the 4'6" end of the warm pool while her mother gets some exercise in.
ReplyDeleteThe daughter is now 25 years old. She cannot speak, and her sight is poor. I hadn't seen her for months, and she's lost weight. She apparently has some swallowing issues.
Twenty five years of care. I was exhausted by 12 years of care for my Alzheimer's-affected husband. I can't imagine how her mom copes.