President Donald Trump is moving closer to a deal with Democrats that would protect hundreds of thousands of young undocumented immigrants from deportation and put off funding for his marquee campaign promise of a border wall along the US-Mexico border.
The bombshell developments, which were first announced in a statement Wednesday night by Democratic leaders Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Nancy Pelosi and reiterated by Trump himself Thursday morning, were met with immediate outrage from conservatives and put pressure on the President's Republican allies in Congress.
The two Democratic leaders announced that following a dinner at the White House, they had "agreed to enshrine the protections of (the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program) into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that's acceptable to both sides."
Yesterday when this news first broke I saw a number of pundits looking not all convinced that this was actually going to happen. Rachel Maddow in particular talked about "getting it in writing."
And it appears they were right to be cautious, because these were Trump's tweets from this morning.
No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 14, 2017
The lesson here is that nobody should take this asshole at his word EVER.The WALL, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 14, 2017
However it does appear that Pelosi and Schumer may have managed to move him just a little.
Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!.....— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 14, 2017
So MAYBE there is a little room to negotiate, but then again maybe not....They have been in our country for many years through no fault of their own - brought in by parents at young age. Plus BIG border security— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 14, 2017
It really depends on who Trump talks to next, because his opinions seem to be based on who he talked to last.
'T'hundermuffler aka#credittaker
ReplyDeleteI just hope Chuck and Nancy didn't agree to drop the Russian collusion investigation or not impeach in exchange for DACA.
ReplyDeleteAre you serious?
DeleteHuh? It would never happen even if it was possible.
DeleteThey dont have the juice to pull a move like that, plus why would they do that in the first place?
Delete8:36 here. I am very cynical about this deal.
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DeleteNorth Korea will reveal it.
DeleteACE is a hint. Hu Sarah. :( )
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/14/trump-profit-hurricane-irma-victims-florida-visit-sell-hats.html
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" Republicans in Congress are turning a blind eye to Trump profiting off of the presidency. " Dems tOO. "Donald Trump is coming to their state to sell hats, and blur the lines between the presidency and his personal business activities."
$wamp mar-a-lago
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/my-hands-are-too-big-trump-rips-off-food-service-gloves-while-feeding-irma-victims/
DeleteMY hand$
This is not about DACA
ReplyDeleteThis is not about having a heart
This is not about doing the right thing
This is not a political promise to the Democrats
This is about a campaign promise
This is about wanting one win
This is about holding children hostage to get his WALL
This is about Donald J. Trump
He wants one win before his first year ends ..... the Trump Wall
He won't get it and he knows it.
DeleteHe'll pin all of his hopes on tax "reform" and he won't get that either.
All he's got is Neil Gorsucks.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
DeleteIn 1914 they took a little trip.
Now they are having a little Russian fit.
Does America deal with terrorists who holds Americans hostage for their personal needs?
ReplyDeleteWhy are we starting now?
We are guaranteeing Trump his one and only campaign promise for children.
May that son of a bitch choke on a pork chop bone and not rot in hell but forever burn in pain for all his misdeeds and crimes he has committed since he was born.
Ann Coulter
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Let's play Jeopardy.
ANSWER: An Easter egg.
QUESTION: What's the only thing easier to roll than Donald J. Trump?
1 hour ago · Twitter
Ann Coulter
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At this point, who DOESN'T want Trump impeached? https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/908278070611779585 …
4:05 AM - Sep 14, 2017
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USAToday:
Ann Coulter: 'At this point, who DOESN'T want Trump impeached?'
Jessica Estepa, USA TODAY
1 hour ago
President Trump's deal/no deal over protecting DREAMers has bewildered both supporters and critics alike.
So, is it really any surprise that far-right commentator Ann Coulter is now wondering if the president is fit for office?
USAToday.com
USAToday contd
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-Ann Coulter
Coulter, who penned a column this week proclaiming "no amnesty is good amnesty," made her dissatisfaction known on Thursday morning. First, she tweeted a Washington Post story about Trump supporters' anger over the president's willingness to protect DREAMers, undocumented people who were brought into the country illegally as children.
She then retweeted the president, who appeared to be giving a defense of DREAMers.
"At this point, who DOESN'T want Trump impeached?" Coulter said.
OUCH!
ReplyDeleteAnn Coulter is not pulling her punches.
Ann Coulter
✔@AnnCoulter
If we're not getting a wall, I'd prefer President Pence. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/908278070611779585 …
5:48 AM - Sep 14, 2017
It is true that Trumps makes/changes his decisions based on the last person who got to him.
ReplyDeleteDid Trump received his 3am phone call from President Bannon?
Read somewhere online that Alex Jones was saying that Donald Trump was being drugged to behave. Haha. Wish that were so.
ReplyDeleteWhatever the case, not a day of no mama drama without Donnie. A Pence presidency would be so boring and predictable. My brain circuits is adapting to all this daily drama and maybe everything will pale in comparison. OMG!!!!! What have I become???
Alex Jones has a job opening and he is being trolled massively on Twitter.
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Does this mean Trump is deporting his Mar-A-Lago Non-American employees as well as all his golf clubs, golf courses, and hotels Non-Americans?
ReplyDeleteNope, its cheaper to keep them.
DeleteDonald if you are really serious about deporting DACA residents?
ReplyDeleteStart with Melania, her parents and her sister.
Now we will see if Trump is serious about deportations
Melania got her desperately willing body to the USA and after she secured her sugar Daddy and an heir, you bet that was DNA tested and somehow not aborted at Donnie's command, then and only then did Melania's parents arrive at the Golden Luxury tower. There is no DACA.
DeleteCongress’ Far Right Melts Down Over Trump’s DACA Deal With Democrats
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Schumer: We Have To Put ‘Meat On The Bones’ Of DACA Agreement With Trump
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Trump: I’m Not Interested In ‘Amnesty,’ Just Letting DACA Recipients Stay
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-says-not-interested-in-amnesty-daca-democrats
I WON I WON I WON!
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Paul Ryan Wigs Out And Claims That There Is No Agreement On DACA
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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said Republicans in Congress “look forward” to receiving the Trump administration’s proposal following talk of a potential deal that would protect DACA recipients in exchange for beefed up border security.
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Coulter Rails Against Trump Again, This Time For Reports Of DACA Deal
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/coulter-rails-against-potential-trump-daca-wall-deal
Trump’s ‘Betrayal’ Sends Anti-Immigration Hardliner Over The Edge
ReplyDeletehttp://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mark-krikorian-anti-immigration-trump-deal-sniffing-glue
Trump’s biggest fans, from Breitbart to r/The_Donald, are furious about his immigration deal
ReplyDelete...But perhaps the most telling reaction has come from r/The_Donald. This subreddit is meant for Trump’s most hardcore fans, and it often deletes any negative comments about Trump. Yet on Thursday morning, it was clear that a lot of Trump fans weren’t happy with news of the deal.
As of Thursday morning, one of the most upvoted comments on r/The_Donald in one of the big threads about the looming deal directly insulted Trump:
Bullfuckingshit. No fucking DACA amnesty. Period. Even Hillary gave you an out with her comments about Dreamers. Don't be a fucking retard, Mr. President. Look at what amnesty did to California. That state will forever be lost to Democrats.
The most upvoted (but later deleted) reply to that comment echoed the sentiment:
This is the first time I'm really going against a proposal of his. Trump, what the fuck are you thinking??? This will end up becoming another Reagan scenario! DON'T GIVE AMNESTY TO THE DACA RECIPIENTS!!! I didn't vote you into the White House for this!
Spez: For those who want to call me a concern troll, I've been a supporter since Summer of 2015. I have the right to hold the man accountable. Fuck off.
In another thread that’s been up since Wednesday night, by far the most upvoted post, criticized the idea of the deal:
NO DACA
NO AMNESTY
BUILD THE WALL
We can't compromise on any of this. Country is finished if we do.
One post characterized the deal as a betrayal that could permanently ruin the chances of a wall at the US-Mexico border:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/14/16306638/trump-immigration-deal-reddit
You asked if anyone wants to deport ‘dreamers,’ President Trump: Yes. Your base.
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Yeah, baby!
ReplyDeleteHouse GOP Worries About ‘Mass Exodus’ Of Frustrated Members
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/house-gop-worries-about-mass-exodus-if-they-cant-get-legislation-moving
Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), one of the GOP’s biggest immigration hawks, issued a dramatic warning to the president after he scrolled through news reports.
ReplyDelete“If AP is correct, Trump base is blown up, destroyed, irreparable, and disillusioned beyond repair,” King tweeted, referencing an Associated Press story on the bipartisan agreement.
He added, “No promise is credible.”
Conservative radio talk show host Laura Ingraham, who is friendly with Trump, mocked him for seeming to shelve the pledge that has animated his supporters since his campaign’s launch.
“Exactly what @realDonaldTrump campaigned on. Not,” Ingraham wrote on Twitter. She later added, “BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL! … or … maybe … not really.”
Trump tried to calm the conservative outrage early Thursday in a series of tweets that insisted the border wall “will continue to be built” and that no deal was hashed out with Democrats on the undocumented young immigrants known as “dreamers.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/09/14/according-to-democrats-trump-has-done-an-about-face-on-dreamers-his-diehard-supporters-are-fuming/
Trump’s latest tweetstorm signals major concessions may lie ahead
ReplyDeleteBarely a few hours after Democrats announced that they had reached a tentative deal with President Trump on protecting the “dreamers,” Trump unleashed a steaming-hot morning tweetstorm that seemed to suggest that there was no deal at all.
But make no mistake: If you read between the lines, Trump’s tweets actually signal the clear outlines of a deal that would, in fact, protect hundreds of thousands of young people brought here illegally as children, on terms that might end up proving acceptable to all sides — with the crucial exception of a few very loud voices on the right, who may be able to derail any such deal...
...Trump just made a big concession and signaled the weakness of his political position. Trump basically just endorsed the main arguments for protecting the dreamers: They are largely blameless for their plight, and they are currently making positive contributions to American life. This will further infuriate the hard-line screamers: They are deeply determined to advance the impression that undocumented immigrants as a class are nothing more than a destructive, invasive, criminal presence, the dreamers very much included.
But this signals that Trump knows going through with driving the dreamers underground and subjecting them to deportation is politically and substantively untenable. He basically just told the screamers to accept this obvious truth. Yes, Trump could of course change his mind tomorrow. But that doesn’t change the fact that his current position got it right: He has implicitly conceded that this would indeed be politically devastating. Trump is desperate to sign things he can call accomplishments. Chances are that he wants to sign something protecting the dreamers. The question is: On what terms?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/09/14/trumps-latest-tweestorm-signals-major-concessions-may-lie-ahead/
Why doesn't a reporter ask " Does president Trump believe that immigrants who lied on their citizenship application should be deported?"Then follow up with "did Melania lie on her citizenship application"
ReplyDeleteIt wouldn't matter, he is not anti immigrant. He is anti non aryan immigrant.
DeleteRight explodes in anger over Trump's immigration push
ReplyDeletehttp://thehill.com/homenews/administration/right-explodes-in-anger-over-trump-deal-daca-dreamers-democrats-pelosi-schumer-hannity-coulter-ingraham
True. Trump goes which way the wind blows.
ReplyDeleteRepublicans in Congress are so angry about Trump negotiating with Democrats on DACA and immigration that they are dodging questions from reporters and avoiding the entire subject.
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‘I enjoy your ocean of tears’: GOP strategist takes victory lap around disillusioned Trump fans
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Former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL) said President Donald Trump following through with an immigration agreement with Democrats that doesn’t include funding for a border wall would be a death wish for his reelection.
ReplyDeleteThe former congressman-turned-conservative-talk-radio-host appeared on MSNBC Thursday and was asked how the agreement, which Trump made with Democratic leaders Wednesday night, would impact Trump’s base. Walsh called the deal “devastating” and said Trump’s “dead” if he follows through.
“This is a betrayal. Look, this issue is different. Republican voters will not line up lock, step and barrel behind President Trump,” he said. “This issue got Trump elected, period. No amnesty. Build the damn wall. … If he betrays that promise, he’s dead. He is dead among his base. Millions and millions of voters will abandon him.”
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/joe-walsh-millions-voters-abandon-trump-no-wall
"war is a failure of civilization."
ReplyDelete"these are the same drooling cross-eyed dipshits who think a billionaire New York real-estate developer who builds tacky casinos and swanky country clubs staffed by foreign workers, a Reality TV host whose shows are an hour-long fuck-fest of tits and ass and self-serving backstabbing narcissism portrayed by the personification of some backwoods West Virginia county fair demolition derby cheered on by drunken rednecks in cow shit spackled overalls, married to a string of vapid trophy wives, buoyed up incestuous nepotism, and surrounded by a scurrying host of toadies, sycophants, ass kissers, discredited fringe political hacks, cashiered generals, Wall Street crooks, war profiteers and foreign interests, a guy who has never shown the least charity or nobility or degree of compassion, a guy who daily craps in a golden toilet, yeah, that guy, is actually going to look out for their interests from his penthouse windows."
"every problem can be solved with a punch in the face or a bullet in the guts."It was all just bombast and bluster, vague {tiny} hand waving and impossible promises and I’d like to say than any fool could have seen it coming but that’s obviously not true. More than Sixty millions fools"!
"Our civilization is the most complex in all of history.
All of these things, war, peace, terrorism, safety, poverty, economic opportunity, law and order, chaos, immigration, jobs, stability, all of these things are facets of the same complex, ever-changing, fluidly dynamic structure – that is: civilization."
"People turn to crime, to drugs, booze, cults, to myriad destructive actions including violence and terrorism, and to politicians who promise easy solutions and simple fixes, because they're looking for something better. But you don't end war and conflict, terrorism, illegal immigration, crime, chaos, by building walls and blowing up the world."Hunger, poverty, lack of healthcare, lack of opportunity, disenfranchisement, bigotry, inequality, homelessness, hate, fear, uncertainty, all of these things are what lead to war, to conflict, to crime, to illegal immigration, to division, and ultimately to the collapse of civilization."
http://www.stonekettle.com/2017/09/ship-of-fools.html
What is going on?
ReplyDeleteNew York Times:
Trump Confirms Support for Law to Protect ‘Dreamers’
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and YAMICHE ALCINDOR
SEPTEMBER 14, 2017
WASHINGTON — President Trump confirmed on Thursday morning that he supports legislation that would protect young undocumented immigrants from deportation and would deliver a “massive” increase in border security — but not with a wall on the southern border.
Mr. Trump’s comments, both in Washington and in Florida, affirmed the broad parameters of an agreement that Democratic leaders unilaterally announced Wednesday night after dinner with the president at the White House.
In remarks to reporters as he left the White House on Thursday, Mr. Trump said, “We’re working on a plan for DACA,” referring to protections for immigrants who are part of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. He confirmed, “the wall will come later.”
Mr. Trump’s comments seemed tocontradict his own Twitter posts early Thursday morning when he said, “no deal was made last night on DACA.” But they were very much in line with Democratic leaders’ statements. Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, the House Democratic leader, also stopped short of calling their agreement a “deal” on Thursday.
But she told reporters, “We agreed to a plan to protect our nation’s Dreamers from deportation,” adding that there would be a “border security measure that does not include a wall” included in immigration legislation....
Read more at New York Times
Listening? GO right, go left>More Productive.>HOT MIKE!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/14/listen-chuck-schumer-put-mitch-mcconnell-place-hot-senate-mic.html
"Last week, Trump struck a deal with Pelosi, the House Democratic leader, and Schumer, her Senate counterpart, on disaster relief, the debt ceiling, and government funding, over Republican objections.'
ReplyDelete"These are all the same arguments that Barack Obama (among many others) made in favor of the DREAM Act "
" his tweeted support for allowing Dreamers to stay, cement a monumental shift."(It was Ronald Reagan, after all, who oversaw the largest amnesty in U.S. history.)"He was not beholden to pro-immigration donors, the Republican Party, or politeness. Why would someone willing to call Mexicans rapists and criminals hesitate to follow through on his immigration-enforcement promises?"
" “DACA is a very, very difficult subject for me, I will tell you. To me, it’s one of the most difficult subjects I have, because you have these incredible kids, in many cases—not in all cases. In some of the cases they’re having DACA and they’re gang members and they’re drug dealers too. But you have some absolutely incredible kids—I would say mostly—they were brought here in such a way—it's a very, very tough subject.”"
“Amnesty Don”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/09/trump-embraces-amnesty/539790/
https://video.gq.com/watch/the-closer-with-keith-olbermann-the-media-doesn-t-understand-what-trump-is-doing?c=series
ReplyDeleteNot Normal!
People REALLY HATE HIM: NO Kidding!
"In a flash of strange self-awareness, Trump acknowledges the truth."
https://video.gq.com/watch/the-closer-with-keith-olbermann-it-s-now-dawned-on-trump-people-hate-him?c=series
K.O.
re$i$'T'
Peace
http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/350723-trump-calls-sanders-single-payer-plan-a-curse-on-the-us
ReplyDelete""Bernie Sanders is pushing hard for a single payer healthcare plan - a curse on the U.S. & its people," Trump tweeted.
"I told Republicans to approve healthcare fast or this would happen. But don't worry, I will veto because I love our country & its people.""House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) have both declined to endorse the plan."
Wish the Dems would just keep shit under their hats after meeting with Cheeto. Would work so much better for everyone.
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ReplyDeleteTrump die-hards divided over DACA deal
Breitbart calls him ‘Amnesty Don,’ but other conservatives say they’re open to helping Dreamers.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/14/trump-daca-deal-democrats-conservatives-react-242709
#Facebook's dirty little secret.
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ReplyDeleteDo not vote gop, if you can help it. It is still your own decision though.
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