(That is a very troubling video to watch.)
Courtesy of the Salt Lake Tribune:
A nurse says she was assaulted and illegally arrested by a Salt Lake City police detective for following a hospital policy that does not allow blood draws from unconscious patients.
Footage from University Hospital and officer body cameras shows Detective Jeff Payne and nurse Alex Wubbels in a standoff over whether the policeman should be allowed to get a blood sample from a patient who had been injured in a July 26 collision in northern Utah that left another driver dead.
Wubbels says blood cannot be taken from an unconscious patient unless the patient is under arrest, unless there is a warrant allowing the draw or unless the patient consents. The detective acknowledges in the footage that none of those requirements is in place, but he insists that he has the authority to obtain the draw, according to the footage.
At one point, Payne threatens to take Wubbels to jail if he doesn’t get the sample, and he accuses her of interfering with a criminal case.
“I either go away with blood in vials or body in tow,” Payne says.
After Wubbels consults with several hospital officials and repeats the policy, Payne tells her she is under arrest and grabs her, pulling her arms behind her back and handcuffing her. The footage shows the detective dragging Wubbels out of the hospital and putting her inside a patrol car as she screams, “Help! Help! Somebody help me! Stop! Stop! I did nothing wrong!”
This nurse is extremely professional in how she interacts with the police, and even has her supervisor backing her up on the phone, and still this asshole manhandles her and treats like a common criminal.
That is a man who became a cop, not to help people, but to use the uniform and the authority it represents to bully people into submission.
It should be noted that the nurse never said no to the officer and instead was simply relating to him the hospital restrictions on what she could do to comply with his request when he arrested her.
Heavy.com relates that the officer, Jeff Payne, has NOT been fired and remains on active duty, though there is an internal investigation.
There are also reports of other officers in the area harassing medical staff in hospitals and this seems like a fairly widespread problem in Utah.
No lawsuits pending as of yet, but I think the hospital and this nurse have a very strong case for one.
Personally I hope that the hospital gives this woman a commendation for doing her job in the face of such a terrifying situation, and perhaps a nice raise would not be out of the question as well.
Update: The two officers have been placed on leave.
The punishment for this officer should be dumping bedpans for the rest of his breathing life.
ReplyDeleteAnd cleaning them!
DeleteYea....and cleaning them with his tongue.
DeleteCareer RN here - a nurse can lose the license to practice for operating outside the scope of practice, that is going against the law!
ReplyDeleteThis police thing is totally out of control. Their badge does not give them the latitude to strong arm and/or kill people just for the hell of it! Even if Drumpf tells them to or excuses it.
Career RN as well. Ehere the hell were any admins ? The patient's family should Also sue the cop because this nurse was not given the opportunity to give an appropriate hand off to another nurse. Who picked up the pieces partially blind?
DeleteYes 4:42. She was faced with losing her license if she allowed the officer to do what he wanted. He thought he was above authority. Let's see how this plays out. I don't think he will get away with this. He better not!
ReplyDeleteThat "fruit of the poisonous tree" doesn't prevent her from losing her license or being sued.
DeleteThe officer is an asshole, trying to double talk her into HER committing an illegal act instead of HIM.
Mormons.
ReplyDeleteUnless she gets a NON-Mormon judge this isn't going to go far.
Unless the patient gets a NON-Mormon judge it isn't going to go far either. This nurse is going to be the star witness when the patient's lawyer has that blood sample thrown out of court.
I hope the hospital provides this nurse with a lawyer to sue and have this arrest stricken from her record.
The officer should be fired.
But, you know....UTAH. The Mormons have always been very authoritative, controlling and misogynistic. I'm sure they look down on any form of drinking too. This asshole probably thought it was his literally god given right to prove that patient was intoxicated at the time of the crash and no woman was going to stand in his way. Not when he has a badge and a gun.
Yeah, sue the shit out of him.
I hate Mormons.
DeleteI do too, and you can ask my sexually, mentally, and physically abused grandchildren in court. My daughter had been fighting this six years.
DeleteKeep Oregon Weird.
8:05, I hate no one. I can intensely dislike them, but hate only negatively affects me, and - as with most things - making generalities which state all in a group are bad is stupid unless history has proven that group IS evil or deserving of hate.
DeleteAs to the statement made by mlaiauppa, there better not be any question with the judge. Personally, I would think the hospital would demand an appeal - and then, if that fails, sue for violation of her Constitutional rights. That would be in Federal court.
And I would hope the people of the state - not all of whom are Mormon - would raise one helluva stink, demanding a biased judge's removal. Probably not, though, because once corruption of that sort becomes pervasive it takes a huge effort to correct it.
The nurse was correct legally and ethically in refusing to allow the blood test to be taken on an unconscious patient who was not under arrest. The Dracula-esque policeman was completely in the wrong. He should not be allowed to conduct such tests in the future if he cannot understand the legal limits and has such a temper. I guess the nurse is lucky he didn't shoot her.
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https://www.eastidahonews.com/2017/09/rigby-police-chief-thanks-nurse-for-standing-firm-in-protecting-officers-rights/
ReplyDeleteapparently the patient is an Idaho police officer - Idaho police have thanked the nurse.... (guess things run differently in Idaho than they do in Utah....)
Nurses Endure A Shocking Amount Of Violence On The Job
ReplyDeleteUsually, though, it’s not at the hands of police officers.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nurses-violence-police_us_59a9c2f9e4b0dfaafcf07093?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
I want to read that. I am a nurse and we put up with an unbelievable amount of abuse. Most of the security team are lame even when we push the panic button.
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ReplyDeletehttp://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/during-golf-rainout-trump-stewed-indoors-and-decide-to-fire-james-comey/
Assistant Watergate Special Prosecutor lists 8 times Trump committed crimes in office — so far
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/assistant-watergate-special-prosecutor-lists-8-times-trump-committed-crimes-in-office-so-far/
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/page/ct-perspec-page-obama-katrina-trump-20170901-story.html
DeleteIs it any wonder cops have a bad name? This cop was deplorable and should be fired! He treated the nurse horribly and w/zero respect for her profession and career.
ReplyDeleteDonald Trump can’t donate $1 million from his foundation to Houston because it’s under investigation
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/donald-trump-cant-donate-1-million-from-his-foundation-to-houston-because-its-under-investigation/
He didn't donate..he PLEDGED. Anyone with a nonprofit will tell you that pledges are often never sent in. He'll never donate a cent, and his foundation? So he's planning to donate other people's money and take credit for it? Just like Frankie Graham and his Samaritan's Purse. Get people to send in filled shoeboxes and take all the credit when you charge the Foundation for the plane trip to deliver them. AND get a million dollar salary. Must be interesting to live without a conscience or any sense of morality.
DeleteFool djt.
DeleteNow Cuban over 20 mil. Great.
Oh dammit, there goes that there pledge! Trump donated a million, what did you do? Hopefully soon the fake news will report poor pitiful victim Trump was stopped from giving all that money 'cuz it was illegal and stuff. Danged libruls with their law abiding!
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DeleteHUH? A wee more info might help get your point across.
He's also announced that tomorrow, Sunday, will be a "national day of prayer" for the victims of the hurricane. Nice sentiment perhaps, but really? From Trump? His handlers are in patch-it-up mode because Trump's earlier reactions have been seen for what they were: shallow and insincere.
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3:41 yeah well I won't be participating in that! Packing care packages instead. More tangible and useful.
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ReplyDeletehttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/us/politics/john-kelly-trump.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
What I don't get is this went on for almost 20 min. Why isn't the supervisor there? Why isn't an administrator there? You telling me it takes them more than 20 min to get there in person?
ReplyDeleteLike they wanted to get arrested too?
DeleteThey probably go to temple with the @$$hole cop!
My question as well.
DeleteWait for the nurse to be charged with abandoning her patient as dhe had no opportunity to report off. Poor nurse! Very traumatizing. No ISBAR-Q!!
Payne's in for a world of pain and Salt Lake City Police Department better be praying for deep pockets. HIPAA will have the last word. I hope she has a pitbull for an attorney.
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GeorgiaPeach: According to the Utah ACLU, she does have a pit bull for a lawyer, and the ACLU is working with him/her!
DeleteAh, justice. It always leaves a good taste in my mouth.
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The nurse had the complete support of her supervisor and of the hospital. The policeman who wanted to do the blood test was in the wrong - legally and ethically. I wonder if part of his problem was simply the fact that he was being resisted by a woman.
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Many of the faults you see in others, dear reader, are your own nature reflected in them.
ReplyDeleteLol. If you think to prick my conscious, you're going to have to be less obtuse.
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GeorgiaPeach, have to giggle!
DeleteREALLY, dear poster?
Is that why you continually fault others, dear reader.
DeleteGeargiaPeach, it's most likely 'Alicia the self righteous' and Palin apologist. I wonder if her liberal mommy and daddy know what she is doing while living in their basement.
@3:53
DeleteLol, dear reader. $arah's an idiot. My Daddy's dead. My Momma doesn't have a basement and I own my own home. Always amazed at the tales people spin inside their own heads. Hope it helps.
GeorgiaPeach
Georgia,I was addressing 7:52. Sorry I didn't make it clearer.
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DeleteSorry I misread. :(
GeorgiaPeach
Shine a little light on the situation and get action!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.ksl.com/?sid=45637083&nid=148
SALT LAKE CITY — Two Salt Lake police officers were placed on leave Friday and a criminal investigation was ordered after video of a veteran officer dragging a nurse out of a hospital when she refused to allow a blood draw from an unconscious patient was broadcast across the country.
The Salt Lake Police Department announced Friday afternoon that the officer involved in the startling video had been placed on paid administrative leave — hours after Chief Mike Brown announced that the officer had still been working on duty but in a limited role since the incident occurred more than a month ago.
Next up...FIRE THE CHIEF who twiddles his thumbs and leaves @$$hole abuzer of proper process Payne on the job...
DeleteOfficer Payne was being directed by his Lieutenant. BOTH of which were ten years out of date on current Utah law governing this situation.
DeleteI only hope that Payne is also fired from his EMT job for saying he'll take the good patients elsewhere and dump the transients at the University hospital.
This guy is a total unprofessional douchebag. He needs to be fired both as a police officer and an EMT.
Let him sell Amway for a living.
The ACLU of Utah is handling this case, and it seems the nurse has a very lawyer that is approved by the ACLU.
ReplyDeleteThe cops will not be able to get away with this.
Maybe Humpty Trumpty will pardon the jackass.
DeleteWisconsin Governor Scott Walker took $1 million from Russia. Then Donald Trump shockingly won the state.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.palmerreport.com/politics/wisconsin-walker-russia/4669/
if this is true it shows how crooked so many politicians are. I remember cotton taking a million dollars from Israel a couple of years ago. All this money changing hands is so out of control and is it only one party but all?? it is enough to make you sick and they all or most, are now the rich gang, from this kind of enrichment.
DeleteBack up to 1914. Start there with politicians taking money from Russia. Fast forward to today. What do you have?
DeleteInvestigations. Don't steal.
No one likes a thief. Shrug.
On admistrative leave. Of course they are.
ReplyDeleteFMLA meet FMLU.
Another taxpayer paid public servant gone rogue. Do you think he may be a trump stump? Does he think he can get away with behaving badly on innocent americans? Trump has a way of bringing out the worst in everyone.
ReplyDeleteSadly this kind of behavior is happening all over the usa. Screening potential public servants must be thorough and include mental health exams and associations.
ReplyDeleteHe needs to go to jail. Firing isn't enough. He's totally unsuited for a position of authority. Where have we seen this before? He thinks he's Gestapo.
ReplyDeleteI too wonder how many times this happens, not just there, but all over the USA. I'm sure they threaten all kinds of people, to get what they want. This kind of behavior is just Nazi like. He needs to be fired. I read a judge said that, the police don't have to know the law.(read this last year but can't remember where this was at ) I don't know how you can arrest people if you don't know the Law?? They should have to, take courses every year, to make sure they do! As for HIPPA laws, ( it's a joke) there are none except for us, we have trouble getting our own family records. Those electronic records they all can get their hands on. They even know if you get a prescription filled or not. We should not fool ourselves. They all have their own agenda's, they want to force on us.
ReplyDeleteOfficer Payne’s report identifies him as 43-year-old William Gray, a reserve officer in the Rigby, Idaho, Police Department, who suffered burns during a July 26 crash in Cache County.
ReplyDeleteGray is a truck driver when he is not serving as a reserve police officer, according to the Idaho State Journal.
At about 2 p.m. on July 26, Gray was driving a semi north on State Road 89/91 near Sardine Canyon when a man fleeing from the Utah Highway Patrol crashed a pickup truck into him head-on, according to Logan police, who investigated the collision.
The crash caused an explosion and fire, Logan police have said. Gray was on fire when he exited the semi. The driver of the pickup truck, Marcos Torres, 26, died at the scene.
Why would he even need a blood sample from the innocent victim in this crash, who was just in the wrong place at the wrong, on the wrong end of a high speed pursuit ?
ReplyDeleteto try to avoid a lawsuit against salt lake police dept.if he is dirty they get a pass.
DeleteOr so they can alter the blood sample (add alcohol) to make the semi driver look partially responsible for the crash.
Deletehospital already has the results.they keep them on file .it would be hard to alter those
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