So this was Trump's tweet from last night after he met with numerous survivors of school shootings.I will always remember the time I spent today with courageous students, teachers and families. So much love in the midst of so much pain. We must not let them down. We must keep our children safe!!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 22, 2018
Full Listening Session: https://t.co/x5VenyQX5p pic.twitter.com/CAPfX5odIp
It sounds like he wants to do something, right?
But then Trump must have watched the coverage of his "listening session" and that CNN town hall last night. And the old Trump once again reared it's ugly orange tinted head.
I never said “give teachers guns” like was stated on Fake News @CNN & @NBC. What I said was to look at the possibility of giving “concealed guns to gun adept teachers with military or special training experience - only the best. 20% of teachers, a lot, would now be able to— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 22, 2018
Okay well this is interesting because Trump is essentially lying and then calling himself out on that lie IN THE SAME TWEET.....immediately fire back if a savage sicko came to a school with bad intentions. Highly trained teachers would also serve as a deterrent to the cowards that do this. Far more assets at much less cost than guards. A “gun free” school is a magnet for bad people. ATTACKS WOULD END!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 22, 2018
But wait, there's more.
....History shows that a school shooting lasts, on average, 3 minutes. It takes police & first responders approximately 5 to 8 minutes to get to site of crime. Highly trained, gun adept, teachers/coaches would solve the problem instantly, before police arrive. GREAT DETERRENT!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 22, 2018
This is an NRA fantasy with essentially no foothold in reality.....If a potential “sicko shooter” knows that a school has a large number of very weapons talented teachers (and others) who will be instantly shooting, the sicko will NEVER attack that school. Cowards won’t go there...problem solved. Must be offensive, defense alone won’t work!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 22, 2018
And teachers are almost universally against it.
Courtesy of Politico:
But education groups are virtually unanimously opposed to the idea, which they say is asking teachers and principals to do too much.
“This is bar none, the worst theory of action I’ve ever heard,” Shanna Peeples, a former National Teacher of the Year award winner, wrote on Twitter.
I can tell you from first hand experience that people do not always react in a predictable fashion to a crisis situation, and that sometimes even training does not prevent bad decision making.
We have all seen video of trained police officers panicking when confronted with a gunman, and firing erratically or firing unnecessarily.
Just imagine that every school in the country had poorly trained armed teachers milling around in the hallways dealing with sometimes out of control students, and stressful situations.
School shootings would become an almost daily occurrence.
However Trump DID offer to support a couple of potentially helpful policies.
That response is of course woefully lacking in its effectiveness to deal the crisis at hand, and before you allow yourselves to feel a little hopeful that Trump could be persuaded to do more, he followed that tweet up with this one.I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health. Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks! Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue - I hope!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 22, 2018
And that is how the dream dies.What many people don’t understand, or don’t want to understand, is that Wayne, Chris and the folks who work so hard at the @NRA are Great People and Great American Patriots. They love our Country and will do the right thing. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 22, 2018
Keep in mind that during the 2016 election cycle the NRA spent 20 million dollars attacking Hillary Clinton, and donated 11 million to the Trump campaign. (Source.)
Trump is not going to bite the hand that feds him, especially since in a round about way that hand was quite likely Russian.
NRA Attacks The FBI Which Is Investigating Them For Russian Money Laundering
ReplyDeleteIt is not a coincidence that NRA boss Wayne LaPierre would be attacking the FBI at CPAC. The FBI is investigating the NRA for laundering Russian money to the Trump campaign.
Video:
...As McClatchy reported, “The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency, two sources familiar with the matter have told McClatchy.”
LaPierre’s attack on the FBI along with literally everything in America that is not the gun has an ulterior motive.
Like Trump, the NRA is attempting to discredit the FBI. The attack on the FBI has the added benefit for the NRA on taking the attention of the role of the gun and easy access to high powered weapons in the Stoneman Douglas shooting, but the NRA is far from an objective observer about the FBI, and they are pulling straight out of the Trump playbook by attacking those who are investigating them.
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/02/22/nra-attacks-fbi-investigating-russian-money-laundering.html
FLORIDA
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Trump says, “ A “gun free” school is a magnet for bad people. ”
ReplyDeleteGiven that the rest of the world has “gun free” schools and that the rest of the world does not have gun violence in schools, Trump’s comment are bullshit!
Jim Wright of Stonekettle Station blog, posted this on February 17th on his FB page. While he mentions several points that have been discussed elsewhere, he asks a critical question about the type of training these teachers would need that I have not seen asked anywhere else. Anyone who suggests that we arm teachers had better have a damn good answer to that one and the others that Wright asks as well.
ReplyDelete"This training would have to specially designed because you're talking about non-professionals with guns in a building full of panicked children AND those "specially trained people" will be very likely facing a CHILD with a gun who is killing other children. We don't train soldiers for that. We don't train cops for that. So we're going to need special training, including not just the mechanics and theory of combat arms, but the psychology of killing a CHILD in an active shooter situation. "
As an educator, could I, even WITH extensive training, be able to kill a student who I likely knew? If I did, could I live with myself afterward? And could I possibly live with myself if I had killed an innocent child in the process of taking down the shooter?
The answer to all of those questions is no, and I suspect it would be the same for the vast majority of educators around the country.
https://www.facebook.com/Stonekettle/posts/1605583792810351
Even the professionals that have been trained can't handle it. Not all of them.
Deletehttps://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/student-resource-officer-resigns-parkland-shooting_us_5a8f46a2e4b01e9e56b9d8f9
"The armed deputy assigned to the campus of a Florida high school during a deadly shooting last week stayed outside the building during the attack and failed to engage the shooter, the county sheriff said on Thursday.
As a consequence, Scott Peterson, on duty as the school resource officer at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, resigned from the department, said Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel, who earlier has suspended the officer from the force. He did not say if Peterson would face criminal charges.
Israel said he decided to suspend Peterson after viewing a video that showed the deputy did “nothing” during the rampage that killed 17 people. A former student Nikolas Cruz, 19, is accused of carrying out the attack with an AR-15-style assault weapon."
That's right. Armed deputy, trained police officer, and the coward froze, he did NOTHING.
The unarmed JROTC students, 14 and 15 years old did more than this yellow-bellied, likely NRA member from the local sheriff's office.
I doubt they'll charge him with anything. They'll likely sweep it under the rug and pretend it didn't happen. Wouldn't want to draw attention to it.
And what would they charge him with? Dereliction of duty?
Lawrence O'Donnell did a great job last night in deconstructing the whole scenario. One of the key things he pointed out is that cops are usually very careful about coordinating with each other when they approach an active gunman, and even then they often make mistakes. If there are 10% of the teachers with guns, how do they make sure that one isn't firing at the shooter from behind while another is approaching? How do you make sure there are not kids or other teachers in the way? It is a ludicrous idea.
ReplyDeleteHere is the link to O'Donnell:
https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/lawrence-why-arming-teachers-is-a-fantasy-war-game-1167118915794
I'm trying to figure out what the NRA's response will be when (not if - it will happen eventually) one of those well-armed teachers has his/her gun stolen and used on a killing spree in the school.
ReplyDeleteJust now, Trump raged against the media, specifically CNN, for what he said were lies about his remarks yesterday. Today he's saying that "only the best" teachers (wtf?!) would have guns and that he never said he wanted guns in the schools except as in the hands of those "adept" with guns and they'd get a little bonus money for carrying them--he emphasized how the schools would get protection that was "almost for free" because regular guards wouldn't be getting paid. He's only thinking of guns on people as if they are in some video game emotionless and expecting a shootout and are not human beings who also are teaching and who don't have the training of law enforcement professionals, and he keeps on pushing this idea of retired military personnel as making up a large percentage of every school's faculty. He's totally lost it!
DeleteThe NRA will blame the teacher and call for more armed teachers.
DeleteSo, the best teacher is carrying an assault rifle, but she s on another floor and there is shooting. So he/she needs to hope she can find the shooter and shoot him/her before he gets shot himself? mmmkkkay.
DeleteAsk me what the WORST POSSIBLE THING TO SAY would be...
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/cameron_kasky/status/966682963122556928
https://twitter.com/cameron_kasky
Crazy to think that just 3 years ago, @cameron_kasky and I would have 2+ hour phone conversations about pop culture; now we have 4-minute frantic ones about gun reform. Who knew our conversations would be productive if we cut out all (okay, most) of the Batman references?
https://twitter.com/willadwar/status/966545099994943488
Florida school shooting survivor Cameron Kasky challenges Sen. Marco Rubio: "Can you tell me right now that you will not accept a single donation from the NRA?"
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/966507326877327360
Well, gee, since Trump says the NRA are “Great People” I guess that means they can’t possibly hold beliefs that might not be good for a lot of us in this country! /snark
ReplyDeleteHis tampon is screwed in backwards.
ReplyDeleteActually, I think it's in the WRONG HOLE. And it ain't one of the front ones.
DeleteIt SHOULD be in the front UPPER one to shut him up!
Wish I'd come on here earlier to tell everyone to watch Trump on Fox as he talks with state and local officials re hardening schools, etc., with guns. He's at the point right now of not even giving anyone eye contact as he fidgets and looks in the opposite direction, winks at people, and leans over to talk to the FLA attorney general, the only woman he's been taking seriously. He keeps interrupting people and looking so bored and all he wants to do now as a solution is to have more guns in the schools. If this mtg is available on video to see later, it's a must-see.
ReplyDeleteWhy the Parkland students have made pro-gun conservatives so mad
ReplyDeleteThe American right is officially terrified of the students of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
Those students, who rapidly turned themselves into activists and organizers after 17 of their fellow students and teachers were murdered at their school, have become the most visible face of this new phase of the gun debate, and conservatives are absolutely livid about it. As a consequence, they’re desperately arguing not just that the students are wrong in their suggestions for how gun policy should be changed, but also that they shouldn’t be speaking at all and ought to be ignored.
There are two critical reasons the right is having this reaction, one more obvious than the other. The plainer reason is that as people who were personally touched by gun violence and as young people — old enough to be informed and articulate but still children — the students make extremely sympathetic advocates, garnering attention and a respectful hearing for their views. The less obvious reason is that because of that status, the students take away the most critical tool conservatives use to win political arguments: the personal vilification of those who disagree with them.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/02/21/why-the-parkland-students-have-made-pro-gun-conservatives-so-mad
These students are well educated, self-assured children from an affluent community with supportive parents who have money and connections. And many of them will be old enough to vote in the next few elections.
DeleteThey will not soon forget the trauma of watching their friends and classmates being gunned down in front of their eyes, or hiding in terror in closets and classrooms.
In other words, the GOP's worst nightmare!
Let me remind everyone that the NRA sent a delegation to meet with Putin allies in Russia before investing $30.3M into Trump. Then a NRA member invited Trump to the Kremlin on behalf of Putin before the election. Mueller’s likely investigating the NRA. Awesome.
Deletehttps://twitter.com/funder/status/966724106858221573
Trump just said he would give more money to teachers who are armed. What the hell is wrong with him? Oh, I forget he’s trying to distract from the fact he’s the worst president in the history of this country. And the biggest traitor ever. There is no close 2nd. Benedict Donald.
https://twitter.com/funder/status/966729853386067969
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/966724852576145408
Hmmm, why would Wayne LaPierre denounce the FBI? Is the @FBI actively investigating if Kremlin operatives funneled massive amounts of money to the @NRA to influence the 2016 elections?
https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/966695581023313921
So Drumpfuck flaps his gums and school employees with guns liabilities magically disappear, Huh? I'm guessing stoopid freaking wingnuts have been nipping the Lucky Charms again.
ReplyDeleteFunny timing. Lucky Charms just announced that one of the marshmallows is being replaced by a unicorn.
DeleteTrump is right back where he started, and that’s a problem for the GOP
ReplyDeleteThe numbers are truly awful for the president:
...Looking more closely at the data, one is struck by several phenomena. First, young voters really, really don’t like Trump. Seventy percent of voters under the age of 35 said they don’t approve of his performance — 60 percent of which said they strongly disapprove. Nearly 80 percent of younger voters dislike the Republican Congress.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/02/22/trump-is-right-back-where-he-started-and-thats-a-problem-for-the-gop
I watched the young girls sitting next to Trump on CNN's coverage last night and it was apparent to me (facial expressions) they detested the man. I'll bet when the kids 'had to' compliment him verbally that it made them want to regurgitate! It did me!
DeleteTrump is the worst thing ever to lead our country. He needs to be impeached and there are plenty of reasons/facts that warrant doing so.
He's currently trying to create a civil war within our country by wanting to arm teachers, etc. throughout our school systems.
Everyone should see the handwriting on the wall! Impeachment!!!
Yeah, I was watching too and it was especially gross seeing him approach the girl to his left when the meeting was over and he wanted to get out of the room and had to walk behind her chair. Then, he kept backing away as he walked toward the door then and you could tell he couldn't wait to be out of there, but then a teen boy got his pic taken with Trump and Trump put his arm around him and flashed his veneers for the camera. I waited for Trump to exploit the meeting with pics and that particular pic later on Twitter, and was shocked that for once he didn't.
DeleteThe news channels have been saying that today Trump's doubling down on guns in the schools, and now I'd say he's tripling and quadrupling down.
ReplyDeleteAt the meeting he just held with state and local officials, he was completely closed to all ideas but (his example) having General Kelly types who teach history and are past military personnel who will have guns on them. Every idea and point put forth by people received eye rolling from him, and at the end he told this man named Curtis, "I don't even know what that means" when the man tried explaining some schools' protocol that involves the sheriff department (Curtis then said, “I’ll tell you what that means” and explained, but Trump just kept shaking his head and rolling his eyes and looking in the opposite direction).
Trump is now absolutely glued to the single idea of having teachers with guns and a belief that no one from the police department or any other protocol could ever be of help and stop a shooter. Especially, he said, when they start climbing through the schools’ back windows. He doesn’t even want any uniformed guards whose sole job is protection. He wants all people carrying guns to have hidden guns so that the shooters don’t know where the weapons are. He wants “bullets flying in the opposite direction” (I’m 99% sure those are his exact words—he may have said “other” and not “opposite”) when teachers start shooting at the would-be murderers.
And he is against, absolutely against, doing drills because they are a “negative,” and he said he wouldn’t want Barron to ever do a shooting drill. Instead, he said, they need that 20% of faculty with guns in the schools (and pay them a bonus).
Since his listening session yesterday, he has become completely obsessed with talking tough about “hardened” schools. He also made sure to say that he and the NRA on absolutely in agreement on things (I don’t know his exact words). Only Fox carried the whole meeting. If you can find it online, watch it. Trump was completely arrogant, obsessed, dismissive, and insane in this meeting—it was mind-blowing.
A pro-gun professor just went viral responding to Trump’s preposterous call to arm teachers
Deletehttp://washingtonpress.com/2018/02/21/pro-gun-professor-just-went-viral-responding-trumps-preposterous-call-arm-teachers/
Trump Just Attacked Parkland Victims By Calling The NRA Good People
Delete...Trump only thinks in terms of good guys and bad guys, so if the NRA are the good guys on this issue than the “bad guys” are survivors and victims families who are calling for gun control. Trump isn’t going to take on the NRA. Trump is only going to endorsed NRA approved changes that will do nothing to get dangerous assault weapons off the streets.
The NRA isn’t good people. They are the lobbying arm of gun manufacturers. The NRA is not a membership organization is a political lobbying arm for gunmakers, so what Trump is telling victims of gun violence is that the gun makers are the good people, and the bad people are the ones who don’t want to get shot and killed in a mass shooting.
Trump’s words were nothing less than an attack on gun violence victims, as he once again demonstrated that when faced with a moral choice, Trump will always pick evil over good.
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/02/22/trump-attacks-parkland-victims-calling-nra-good-people-patriots.html
The NRA is a terrorist group just like ISIS.
DeleteTrump says that they shouldn't have active shooter drills in schools because it might scare children.
DeleteReally? Like a fire drill or earthquake drill don't?
Any teacher will tell you that being prepared is everything. Our state mandates one fire drill per month. We work to clear an entire school out on to the field and accounted for in under 3 minutes.
The students and staff at Parkland stated that it was the active shooter drills that saved them. Now Humpty Drumpfty wants to replace them with armed teachers? When the armed Deputy on duty at Parkland froze and did absolutely NOTHING except station himself outside the freshman building. (The guy has since resigned or been fired.)
Trump is an IDIOT. He is an IMBECILE. This is a man that needs an empathy checklist to remind him to listen and say "I hear you."
I didn't enjoy the cop's constant chatter on CNN last night. He obviously wants the cops to control and be in charge in their communities throughout the country.
ReplyDeleteIt's already been proven there are many in their forces that are racist and purposely do harm to blacks and minorities. (I'm white!)
We cannot be a military/cop led United States of America! Trump leans that way too. Teachers should carry guns? What bullshit! I have friends that are teachers and that is the last thing they want to do.
Pay attention to the kids, America. Vote folks out of office in the United States Congress (Republicans), State Legislatures (Republicans) and do not reelect Donald Trump, should he run again.
$176,000 that's how much @marcorubio was paid for each child's life by the NRA
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/davidhogg111/status/966507414940999680
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWCWVVZX4AA2bF8.jpg
Does that count every child and every dollar from every year he has been in office?
Deletehttps://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/553937/?__twitter_impression=true
ReplyDeleteA radiologists observation of what an AR15 bullit does to a body compared to a less powerful gun.
Please pass this around!
As disturbing as it might be they should show photos to these gun nuts of what a AK 17 does to a body,not some little hole like fantasy on tv,movies or video games.
DeleteIf i were a parent of a slain child i would take the photos to these NRA bought politicans and make then look at the carnage they endorse.
Wow...excellent article from a perspective that has not been widely heard!
DeleteOne more reason for the AR-15 to be banned for personal use.
Certainly every legislator should be forced to look at such photos when they are in a position to vote on gun control. It's easy to bleat about 2nd Amendment rights when you don't have to look at the results when a person's basic right to life has been shot away.
DeleteBeaglemom
This should not be possible to happen, ever...wtf?
ReplyDeleteCalifornia convicted felon found with 28 automatic weapons in home, including a machine gun. Most guns have serial numbers filed off. 66,000 (yes, thousand) rounds of ammo also in the home.
...They found 28 firearms and 66,000 rounds of ammunition. The cache included:
13 AR-15-style rifles
11 “ghost guns” with no serial number, meaning they can’t be traced
two fully automatic machine guns
several rounds of tracer ammunition
"If someone has this kind of firepower and they are going through great pains to make sure that it isn't traceable, it is for ill-gotten gains," said L.A. County District Attorney Jackie Lacey, who announced the charges against the Ponders.
Ponder's home was raided after he appeared in a unique state database – the Armed Prohibited Persons System, or APPS – that cross-references criminal and restraining order records with gun registration records.
http://ktla.com/2018/02/21/father-daughter-pair-charged-after-assault-rifles-66000-rounds-of-ammunition-found-in-temple-city-gun-cache/
That is nuts!
Delete10:41, who said they can't be traced? Just because the S/N has been filed off does NOT mean it can't be raised. When the S/N is stamped into the metal, it alters the magnetic density of the metal. That can - and has been - used successfully to read the number.
Deletehttps://www.yahoo.com/news/california-student-arrested-two-assault-113154719.html
Delete"A pair of assault rifles, nearly 100-high-capacity magazines and two handguns were discovered in the home of a 17-year-old who was arrested for threatening to open fire at his school in California.
Security guard Marino Chavez reported the teenager to police after he overheard him saying that he was “going to shoot up the school sometime in the next three weeks.”
He made the comments at the El Camino High School in Whittier, two days after 17 people were killed when a gunman opened fire on a Florida high school.
Mr Chavez said when he asked the student about the threat, he confirmed he made it but said he was just kidding and did not mean it.
He had apparently been angry a teacher told him he could not wear headphones in the classroom, the guard said."
Because a teacher told him he could not wear headphones. That's where we are.
In other news, the California State law requiring a cooling off period has been upheld.
Once again, California says fuck you Trump. Leave us the hell alone.
"Because a teacher told him he could not wear headphones. That's where we are."
DeletePretty sure this kids problems didn't start with a kid being asked to take off his headphones. Why aren't Liberals ever really exploring the hard to swallow realities as to why these kids - turning to young adults - got to the point of performing these horrific acts.
In the week since the Parkland shooting two students, one in high school and another in middle school, have made threats in our area and they are both under investigation. In the first instance, the student and/or his parents own a weapon; in the other instance, there is apparently no weapon. I guess kids do this kind of mimicry to get attention. I'm glad the threats were quickly reported to authorities and I certainly hope that the kids involved, here and elsewhere, get the supervision and psychological attention they clearly need. I doubt very much that imprisonment is the answer but careful scrutiny clearly is.
DeleteBeaglemom
"The bullets are gonna be flyin' in the other direction" is how Trump worded what will happen once armed teachers are in the schools.
ReplyDeleteIts Meloonya's fault - she's always wearing the wrong heel height.
ReplyDeleteTrump is irrelevant on this issue. Time now more than ever to ignore the sick stupid fuck and focus on supporting the kids, kicking out office holders who take NRA money, and destroying the NRA. We have failed our children. Let’s not get distracted by the clown in the WH and the morons who claim the second amendment is about anything but muskets.
ReplyDeleteWhere does the Second Amendment mention muskets?
Delete"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
Don't see any mention of muskets, or any specific type of firearm at all there. In fact, the Supreme Court has even previously weighed in on your very incorrect argument:
"In Caetano v. Massachusetts (2016), the Supreme Court reiterated its earlier rulings that "the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding" and that its protection is not limited to "only those weapons useful in warfare". "
Any questions?
It does mention "A well regulated militia". Any questions?
DeleteNo questions here. You did however forget the rest 12:41, which really is the important part of the Amendment:
Delete"being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
That should clear up your question.
1:18 - So do you believe there should be no restrictions on what weapons a private owner should be permitted to easily purchase? Fully automatic guns? Silencers?
DeleteYes I have a question 11:21 am. Are you familiar with the Dred Scott decision - human beings can be owned? The Court was wrong then and they are wrong on this. Kinda surprised that great originalist and brilliant legal mind, porno king Clarence Thomas, didn’t go for the musket thing.
DeleteOne more question - why does anyone believe that their constitutional right to own a weapon supersedes our chudren’s right not to be shot in school? Why does this “constitutional right”, made up by the NRA and gun manufacturers , to sell weapons that are now regularly used for the mass murder of children, trump common sense and basic human decency? Why can’t these selfish fucks drop their guns and play paintball or something? Cuz they gotta fight a gubmint takeover? Huh?
1:18
DeleteAre you really that stoopid? Since we have an army, navy, air force, marines (woohaa)we don't need a militia of citizens armed with guns.
Time for a new amendment.
Very weak rebuttals there kiddos.
Delete2:21 you seem to have lost your marbles.
oh dear. And I so craved your approval.
DeleteWho swallowed the NRA drivel?
Deletehttps://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/nra-guns-second-amendment-106856?o=3
I would much prefer to have teachers really well trained in their fields and capable of imparting knowledge to their students. It should never be the job of a teacher to shoot a gun at someone. Trump is insane.
ReplyDeleteBeaglemom
Why should teachers not be afforded the right to defend themselves and their students?
DeleteEvangelicalism is world's biggest ERRORIST organization. That's what's behind guns in the first place. It makes people believe that there are Others in the first place. There isn't. We are killing our own brothers, and ourselves, with each shot.
Delete11.23, I think the idea is to maintain a safe environment in schools so that nobody feels threatened by ignorance. Remember those days? The recent shooter cruz had bio parents that created a monster, he then was adopted and bullied his adoptive parents and other peoples kids. We can focus on what created this monster by knowing who his bio parents were. And how it was ok once again to give a mentally unfit kid possession of a assault rifle just like sandy hook.
DeleteHey 11:23 the guns are the problem you idiot. Take away the guns.
DeleteYou’re so right Beaglemom. My mother was a teacher. The idea of her having to defend the classroom is insane. Get rid of the guns. Period.
DeleteThe NRA wants an unborn foetus to begin gun ownership while still in-utero.
ReplyDeleteI wish dumbass don would explain where these only the best teachers are going to put these guns. Are they going to be teaching class with an AK 47 over their shoulder every day or keep them locked up?
ReplyDeleteAnd if they are locked up,what good will it do since in this last attack he killed everyone in about 3 mins,are they going to run and unlock the gun and find the shooter in less than 3mins?
Moron
They're talking concealed carry which means handguns which means they are fucking morons.
DeleteWhy doesn't Japan have this problem? Oh right, because they don't tremor in fear before a dead Jew on a cross.
ReplyDeletelol!
DeleteSo true...especially since the man never even really existed as they claim he did.
Read Ceasar's Messiah.
Mind. Blown.
They don't have this problem because of all of the many hoops you have to jump through to own a gun. Nothing prevents anyone from owning one. You just have to go through every step and qualify. The U.S. could do worse than adopting Japan's gun policies. Or any developed country for that matter.
DeleteI would not send my kid to a school with armed teachers. Are teachers armed at military schools? At juvenile detention schools? Is that how trump grew up?
ReplyDelete@12:38. Thx. Very reasonably put.
ReplyDeleteI 100% support that, it is inclusive.
There is one side of Humpty Trumpty's "plan" that I believe may be completely missed here.
ReplyDeleteI see 2 possibilities on this arming teachers "idea". First, I see him pressing this very hard and receiving extremely powerful pushback from the students and teachers, which would prevent it being passed. When that happens, he can then claim the anti-gun people are being totally unreasonable and drop the whole thing, blaming the anti-gun people for nothing getting done.
The other possibility is just as bad. I see Congress passing that idea and him signing it. That in, itself is a BAD thing, but in the long run it may be good because the population as a whole might finally get rid of these firearms assholes in Congress.
Let's not forget he contradicted himself which contradicted himself.
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/734231223002894337?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fworld-us-canada-43149694
I never said guns in schools, yes I did, no I didn't, yes I did.
Mentally incompetent. Get him outta here!
Great people. Like those "patriots" in Charleston who were marching to protect "American Heritage." Yeah. So many "great people."
ReplyDeleteI know what kind of "great people" Wayne, Chris and Dana are. They would fit right in with those white marching nationalists in Charleston. That march probably had a higher than average percentage of NRA members in it.