Here is that crazy interview that MSNBC's Katy Tur had with former campaign aide Sam Nunberg. Update!

Courtesy of NBC News: 

Sam Nunberg, a former Donald Trump campaign aide, plans to defy a subpoena from special counsel Robert Mueller requesting campaign documents related to the Russia investigation, saying Monday that it would be "really funny" if he were arrested. 

"The president's right, it's a witch hunt," Nunberg told MSNBC's Katy's Tur. 

"I'm not going to cooperate when they want me to come into a grand jury for them to insinuate that (former Trump adviser) Roger Stone was colluding with (Wikileaks founder) Julian Assange," he added.

Nunberg, who has already been interviewed by Mueller's office, called the idea that Trump or his campaign colluded with Russia the "biggest joke," but he suggested — without any evidence — that Mueller may have something on the president. 

"I think they may," said Nunberg, who served briefly as a campaign adviser. "I think that he (Trump) may have done something during the election. But I don't know that for sure." He didn't provide any details.

I like how at one point he says that Trump did nothing wrong, and then only minutes later suggests that Trump "may have done something during the election."

My favorite part of this exchange is at the end when it seems that Nunberg suddenly realizes that he may have screwed himself and asks Katy Tur what she thinks Mueller might do to him for not complying with the subpoena.

I think I know exactly Mueller might do, and I am certain that Sam Nunberg is going to regret his defiance.

Here was something interesting that former US Attorney Preet Bharara tweeted right after this segment aired.

Even if you have someone's emails from other parties to them or from the service provider, you ask for them anyway. Among other things you learn a lot when people selectively disclose.

— Preet Bharara (@PreetBharara) March 5, 2018

I think is more than likely.

So all Nunberg is accomplishing here is putting a bullseye on this back and alerting the Mueller team that he may have something to hide.

Before I close this post I just want to say that I thought Katy Tur did an EXCELLENT job of conducting this interview and got Nunberg to divulge things that I am certain his lawyer would have wrestled him to the ground to keep him from saying.

Nunberg jumped from this interview to CNN, and that interview paled in comparison to this one with Katy Tur.

And that is why for me MSNBC is the best cable news program on the air today.

Update: Later Nunberg showed up on MSNBC again this time on Ari Melber's show.

Nunberg is getting legal advice from MSNBC guests. @mayawiley point blank told him he should testify... pic.twitter.com/YBTVBHCdZJ

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) March 5, 2018

There were three lawyers there, and ALL of them told him he needed to cooperate, and genuinely seemed worried for him.

Update 2: And now this.

Nunberg tells me he'll probably cooperate with Mueller in the end. He just doesn't want to make it easy. He thinks it isn't fair that they are asking for his personal communications. As of 8pm he says he had not talked to his lawyer.

— Katy Tur (@KatyTurNBC) March 6, 2018

Okay, I don't know about anybody else, but I'm a little dizzy.