Monday, April 23, 2018

Waffle House killer was a sovereign citizen who wanted to meet Donald Trump. Update!

Courtesy of USA Today:

The suspected gunman on the run after riddling a Tennessee Waffle House with bullets dubbed himself a "sovereign citizen," before being arrested in July 2017 outside the White House. 

Travis Reinking, 29, used that term — which the FBI has also used to describe a group of anti-government extremists — during a clash last year with the Secret Service, according to a police report obtained by USA TODAY. 

Reinking told agents he needed to see President Trump and defined himself as sovereign citizen who had a right to inspect the grounds, according to an arrest report by the Metropolitan Police Department in D.C. He was arrested on an unlawful entry charge after refusing to leave the area. 

The FBI has said sovereign citizens "believe that even though they physically reside in this country, they are separate or 'sovereign' from the United States." 

The agency has also defined sovereign citizens as "anti-government extremists who claim the federal government is operating outside its jurisdiction and they are therefore not bound by government authority—including the courts, taxing entities, motor vehicle departments, and even law enforcement."

You may remember that Alaska's own domestic terrorist, Schaeffer Cox, also identifies himself as a sovereign citizen.

So you know, they're crazy.

After that incident at the White House the Secret Service actually took Renking's guns away and gave them to his father. A solution that had only one problem.

Courtesy of Newsweek:

Police said the father of suspected Waffle House shooter Travis Reinking handed his son back an AR-15 found at the scene, after it had been seized by authorities in relation to another incident.

That's right, daddy gave his guns back.

After all this is America, right?

There is at least one hero here and that is the young man who actually disarmed this killer bare handed.
Courtesy of HuffPo: 

James Shaw Jr. said he was dining at the restaurant near Nashville with a friend when suspected gunman Travis Reinking, armed with an AR-15, opened fire at people outside and then inside the establishment just before 3:30 a.m. 

Shaw said he jumped behind a nearby door and suffered a minor gunshot wound to his arm in the process. As he waited to see if he would live or die, Reinking’s gun appeared to jam, giving him a chance to charge.

“It was about that time that I made up my mind ― because there was no way to lock that door ― that if it was going to come down to it, he was going to have to work to kill me,” Shaw said at a press conference. “I rushed him and it actually worked out to my favor.” 

Shaw tackled Reinking and grabbed the gun’s barrel with his bare hand, an act that badly burned him in the process. 

Shaw said he didn’t feel the metal’s scorching heat on his skin. Instead, he continued to grip the firearm before tossing it over a counter. He then proceeded to physically remove Reinking out of the restaurant. Reinking disappeared on foot and remained at large as of late Sunday afternoon. 

Thanks to Mr. Shaw's courage there were not more people killed of wounded in this attack.

However it should be noted that if there had been stricter gun laws, or if  Reinking's dad was not such a fucking idiot, Shaw's life would not have been put at risk in the first place.

Getting a gun, especially an AR-15, should not be as easy as buying a pack of gum.

There should be an extensive background check, a waiting period, and then a viable reason given for why you think you need a gun in the first place.

And if the answer given is I hear voices in my head, my bitch of a wife is getting a little mouthy at home, or I am a sovereign citizen and I want to defend myself in case the government comes to take me away, then the answer should be a resounding "NO!"

Update: They finally caught this asshole.
Courtesy of the New York Times:  

The police said Monday that they had arrested a suspect in the killing of four people at a Waffle House in Nashville, ending a wide search that had unnerved one of the largest cities in the South.

About 160 law enforcement officials had been involved in the search for the suspect, Travis Reinking, 29, who officials said used an AR-15 rifle to carry out a rampage at a restaurant southeast of downtown on Sunday morning. 

The police said they arrested Mr. Reinking on Monday afternoon in a wooded area near the apartment complex where he lived, bringing an end to a manhunt that had stretched into its second day.

Well at least that's some good news. 

58 comments:

  1. Anonymous11:07 AM

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/23/us/waffle-house-shooting-manhunt/index.html

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  2. Anonymous11:08 AM

    It took awhile but now we can be thankful that many people are talking about James Shaw Jr. and his heroic deeds. I have heard nothing about the victims. How many injured? I think 4 people are dead.

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    1. Anonymous11:24 AM

      Sad. Four 20 yr old people were murdered by this sovereign citizen with a gun he should never been allowed to get possession of.

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    2. Anonymous12:11 PM

      I wanna know when the dad is charged as an accessory to murder.

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    3. Anonymous12:12 PM

      Yet not a tweet from preznidint* Mightymouth about Shaw's selfless act.

      The brave, brave preznidint who would have rushed into Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School during that massacre, alone and sans weapon, to saaaave the day!

      Not a word yet. I wonder why? Am I wrong?

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    4. Anonymous12:24 PM

      Too black for applause from trump or the nra

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    5. Anonymous12:29 PM

      Mr Shaw said that he was being selfish, that he was just trying to save himself, and played down his heroism. Sorry, buddy. U r a hero. I believe all the victims were persons of color. Will the shooter b charged as a terrorist? For a hate crime? I think the father should b charged with a crime, and if he isn't, the victims should sue the shit out of him.

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    6. Anonymous1:23 PM

      Waffle House Hero Is Raising Money for Attack’s Victims https://www.thedailybeast.com/waffle-house-hero-is-raising-money-for-attacks-victims?source=articles&via=rss

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    7. Anonymous3:22 PM

      12:29 PM, true heroes, like mr. Shaw never see themselves as the heroes they are.

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    8. Anonymous4:56 PM

      Mr. Shaw also started a Gofundme to pay for the funerals of the victims.

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    9. Anonymous6:56 PM

      When is trump and the NRA going to congratulate Mr. Shaw for a job well done?

      oh right, he isn't the correct color.

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  3. Anonymous11:12 AM

    all Taylor Swift F-alt-RIGHT!?

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  4. Anonymous11:19 AM

    maybe this guy will get his wish of meeting trump - after trump pardons him and hires him to go on the campaign trail with him for 2020

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  5. Anonymous11:20 AM

    However it should be noted that if there had been stricter gun laws, or if Reinking's dad was not such a fucking idiot, Shaw's life would not have been put at risk in the first place.....



    How is it that the Palins are not fucking idiots due to the way they handle mental case son, Track? The media needs to stop reporting on the stupid. Like that reconciliation crap. Or Sarah speaks to RW extremists crowds. Anyone can see enough about Track Palin and AR15s.
    How the whole family is complicit. How they tried to shut up the girlfriend that was twice terrorized and the times he messed with Charlie. Who protects a mentally ill gun nut over the victims, a woman and a child? What's next?

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    1. Anonymous12:06 PM

      I'll tell you what's next...the inevitable. Murder. Or murder-suicide. Because they are all in DEEP denial. Won't take advice, they know better than EVERYONE, *including* the courts. This will NOT end well. BELIEVE ME.

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    2. Anonymous2:53 PM

      Someone is raging. Can you feel it. Aw, shit. ;)

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    3. Anonymous3:05 PM

      The Palins ARE fucking idiots.

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    4. Anonymous4:35 PM

      The Palins ARE fucking idiots and the Palins ARE fucking idiots just like Travis Reinking's parent.

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  6. Anonymous11:22 AM

    These self-righteous feckers piss me right the hell off. I wrote in yesterday about this... along with the fact that his mommy was a Xtian who posted on social media that she remembered the good ol' days when she went to school and there was praying and bibble readin' and pledgin' to the Flag an' all...and NO SCHOOL SHOOTINS' THEN! /s

    Yet her precious Xtian brought up son goes and does THIS?!?!?

    No, there's no connection between 'bringing Jeebus back to the skools' and stopping the massacres.

    Because if there WAS a connection, prayer would have PREVENTED the CHURCH SHOOTING! Weren't they PRAYING *there*?!?

    But I digress. Back to sovereign citizens. I betcha this Snidley Whiplash-lookin' dude is another one (check out the holier-than-thou, smug tone he uses as he argues with officers that tends to match these types):

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/miami-police-use-stun-gun-man-accused-touching-female-passenger/

    And just for comic relief - I always watch this to give myself a chuckle - watch this too-big-for-his-britches boy get *his* comeuppance:

    (the good part starts at 2:03)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfVbiefMdNU

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    1. Anonymous5:00 PM

      It's entirely likely the Reinkings homeschooled their son, so there was as much Jebus and Holey Babble as they wanted.

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    2. Anonymous5:31 PM

      THat would also be the austin bomber Conditt and his family.

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  7. Anonymous11:38 AM

    Regarding the title of this theead, many are allegedly asking if it is accurate to include the "a sovereign citizen wanting to meet" portion.

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    1. Anonymous1:40 PM

      Why not? It is a fact. He wanted to meet Trump and he is a sovereign citizen.

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    2. Anonymous4:00 PM

      Why did he want to meet trump, if they don't believe in the government, then trump is not president?

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    3. Anonymous4:47 PM

      4PM, He was part of a movement or a party. Like the Palins were/are Alaskan Independent Party. Reinking is "sovereign citizen". I know nothing about their doctrine, I never heard of them.


      Parents that give mentally troubled or ill adult children guns. They will lie so their disturbed children can have guns.

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  8. Anonymous12:00 PM

    They said he may have mental issues. And that he 29yr old wanted a nice visit with his presidence drumpf last year. So, heck give him back his AR 15 because you know he has a right to own a assault weapon. Sure he has rights but those sitting in the Waffle House do not along with the rest of us. We don't have a right to live in a peaceful society and send our children to public schools to learn without violent bullies and AR 15's.

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    1. Anonymous3:03 PM

      So fucking what if he had mental issues? Does anyone think that people with mental illness live in a bubble? That the Loughners of this world can’t be influenced by a non-stop drone of hate speech, from the media and/or those around them? Hell, today’s GOP brand actively cultivated the loyalties of the mildly mentally ill: the Palin panty sniffers, the loonies of the right, etc.

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  9. Anonymous12:02 PM

    There would be more deaths if the brave young man did not tackle him and throw his assault rifle over the counter.

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    1. Anonymous4:13 PM

      How many people were in the Waffle House? He could have reloaded and gone outside. It could have been the largest Ar15 killing to date.

      That incredibly brave hero deserves a lot more credit.

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  10. Anonymous12:23 PM

    The shooter’s father needs to be arrested along with him. He thought his son’s right to own a weapon was more important than the safety of others around him. He needs to answer for that.

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    1. Anonymous1:01 PM

      Did the son threaten the father and the father failed to notify the police? The father failed in either case.

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    2. Anonymous1:45 PM

      Even Sarah Palin called the police when her husband and son had a gun problem. The son should have had his guns banned when he first threatened with the AR. He went on to mess with a girl and her kid. Finally Sarah was scared enough when he was coming after Todd Palin. She did call the police.

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    3. Anonymous2:56 PM

      Look what you raised $arah!
      Should have raised em Poor!
      You were a blazing saddle($).
      Now look at you. A mess. :/

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    4. Anonymous3:28 PM

      Speaking of Track, they've involved the military court again and it will be very much a surprise if he doesn't skate on the felony and his two misdemeanors.

      Ma Palin and stepdad Todd don't realize that next time he's gonna mean it, but hey, enablers never understand how wrong they are until it's too late.

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    5. Anonymous4:19 PM

      Ma and stepdad Palin are like Travis Reinking's Pa. Is Pa also part of the right wing extremist movement, "Sovereign Citizen"?

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    6. I’ve heard they are considering actions against the Dad for returning guns to him....twice.

      Even if they can’t get him on criminal charges, you better believe the victims and their families will be suing him in civil court.

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  11. Anonymous1:08 PM

    Donald Trump said he'd run into a place where a guy was shooting up the place. Steven Colbert laughed and said, he has a hard time imagining Donald Trump running.
    Anyways. The guy doth protest but he is a hero.
    Sometimes when I lay in bed at night, my mind goes there about a crazed gunman and I think what would I do? I hope I have the will and selfishness to fight back like that young man. He made be so proud.
    Now, watch the NRA, Trump, the Republicans, and Faux news say something bad about him. Just watch. Here it comes.

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  12. Just another white xtian terrorist, nothing to see here, move along!

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    1. Anonymous3:26 PM

      All christians are terrorists, in fact all religions are terrorist organizations. Throughout history they've murdered anyone that doesn't buy into their version of the sky fairy. Crusades anyone?

      Religion has killed more people than any other dogma ever.

      We know better now yet people still cling to their bronze age stories as if they really mean something in this modern age.

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    2. Anonymous9:16 PM

      Just like 12-step "programs" demand you forever identify as, and remain, sick. Religion does the same, where you are born as sinner and forever sinner. CULTS!!!!

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  13. Anonymous1:21 PM

    I'm glad they caught the guy. I think the police need to talk to the father too. The father had told police that he wouldn't give the guns back to his son and then he did. To what extent has he been enabling his son, clearly a looneytoon, along these past few years? I think the father bears some responsibility for the deaths of those four people in the restaurant and for the injuries to the two others. Thank God someone in the Waffle House clever enough and brave enough to get the weapon away from the shooter.
    Beaglemom

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    1. Anonymous4:21 PM

      The father had told police that he wouldn't give the guns back to his son and then he did.


      Yep, like the Palins.

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  14. Anonymous1:54 PM

    I'd love to meet James Shaw, Jr. and his father. It was reported that his dad told him @ the hospital "don't do that again".

    GeorgiaPeach

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  15. Anonymous2:00 PM

    Authority has charged grandmothers that loan a car to someone that drinks and drives and causes death or destruction.


    How can they not charge the father? It took his poor judgment for people to die, he didn't plan it or know what his son would do with the gun. He did know the son was not to have it. I think he also knew the son is mentally ill.

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    1. Anonymous5:35 PM

      There's a black guy in Indiana facing felony charges (within 24 hours of shooting) because he negligently left a loaded gun within a three year old's reach and she shot her mother. Why isn't Pappy reinking charged NOW? Oh yeah, he's white.

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  16. Anonymous2:37 PM

    Police would have unloaded on him had he been black.

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    1. Anonymous3:50 PM

      Twice as many whites killed by police every year than black persons. You can stop you fallacy.

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    2. Anonymous5:37 PM

      Wrong 3:50. Blacks are only 12.6% of the population. Thanks, you just made our case. Doofus.

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    3. Anonymous11:21 AM

      Thanks for showing your ignorance 5:37.

      Why don't you start breaking and those numbers by race and percentage for violent crime and murder, till you get to the real truth about 12.6% of the population.

      The elephant in the room is the fraud that the BLM phonies and race hustlers conveniently ignore.

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  17. Anonymous3:49 PM

    The guy with the truck in Canada scored way more points today than this guy with a gun.

    Ban trucks?

    Knife bans for London?

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  18. Anonymous3:57 PM

    I have wondered aloud if the dad gave him back his guns because moved to Tennessee (from Illinois).

    Or, did Reinking move to Tennessee so he COULD get back his guns?

    Reinking's gun possession was illegal in Illinois, but not in Tennessee.

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  19. Anonymous4:03 PM

    His attorney will get him off on the mental illness defense, then daddy can give him his guns back cuz it is his 2nd amendment right and he will be free to kill more innocent people because there is no constitutional amendment that you can't be killed by a gun nut in a waffle house.

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    1. Anonymous8:03 PM

      You mean like they did with 8Track?

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  20. scruffer4:40 PM

    Surely they bought him a burger??
    They no doubt sympathize with him 'cause they assaulted the peaceful mourners/protesters by that same waffle house pretty damn hard.

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  21. Anonymous4:58 PM

    A mass shooter infiltrates White House grounds, then kills four at a Waffle House before citizen hero James Shaw, Jr. stops the massacre & Trump hasn't tweeted a single congratulatory word.

    I can't understand why?
    https://twitter.com/David_EHG/status/988537303684481024

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    1. Anonymous5:38 PM

      Of course not, he hasn't yet figured out how to make it about himself.

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  22. Anonymous5:28 PM

    With nary a bruise on his face - think he'd be breathing if he were black? or middle-eastern looking?

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