Friday, April 15, 2011

Laura Novak has part two of her interview with Professor Scharlott up on her blog.

Here is a very important part, that I want everybody to read,  where he explains that he was NOT suggesting Trig was Bristol's child, rather than Sarah's:

LN: Brad, I want to begin going through your paper chronologically. You say, in the second sentence no less, that the premise of all of this media coverage/lack of media coverage is that Mrs. Palin “faked the birth of her fifth child, Trig, in 2008 to cover for her daughter, Bristol.” Does this story inevitably have to link to Bristol Palin? Where does that come from? Why go down that path?

BS: There at the start I was merely paraphrasing what the MediaMatters columnist had written – I did not foresee that people would take that as my theory of who Trig’s mother must be – but I understand why it seems that way. So I will revise that part and take Bristol’s name out. Indeed, I will make the point more than once in that paper that I am not pushing Bristol as Trig’s likely mother. I do spend a good deal of time in the paper on Bristol’s delivery of Tripp, but not because I think she must be Trig’s mother, rather because Palin’s people were jerking the press around concerning the exact place and/or date of delivery. That in itself suggests something odd was afoot – but I don’t know what.

(You can read the rest of the interview here.)

As many of you have no doubt observed for yourselves this idea that Trig must belong to either Bristol or Sarah, and since Bristol gave birth to Tripp on December 27 ipso facto Trig MUST be Sarah's child, has been used by a number of media outlets to refute the Professor's contention that there was a cover up.

And, and as I am sure you are also aware, this SAME argument was used back in September of 2008 to kill the story in the first place.  In many ways we are seeing the same scenario play itself out, all over again.

Now this speaks to me directly because I was the first blogger to determine that Bristol was most definitely NOT the person who gave birth on April 18, any more than Sarah Palin was.  For this assertion, which I based on a number of eyewitness accounts of Bristol's appearance around that time and research I hired somebody to do on my behalf, I was attacked by some of the very people who had been major supporters in the beginning of our search for the truth. In the beginning we had all been convinced that Palin was covering for her daughter, and losing that part of the explanation for Sarah's behavior was like pulling teeth for some of us.

However as time went on that fact was reinforced by more interviews, including those with Mercede and her mom,  and more photographs we were finally able to date. 

Now this does NOT mean that Bristol did not have a baby at an earlier time, it just means that on April 18th, 2008, neither she nor Sarah gave birth. 

So who is Trig' mother, and when was he actually born?  THAT my friends is the Holy Grail of this babygate mystery, and I have not yet been able to uncover that fact.

But trust me, I have certainly not given up looking.

72 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:46 PM

    the seemingly disenfranchised sea-0-pee knuckle dragger mouth breathing loser comments in 3-2-1-....

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  2. Anonymous4:55 PM

    Palin announced her pregnancy just after McCain secured his nomination.

    I think that at least by that date, Palin knew she could acquire a baby by May 2008 (the original due time). Given Palin's pyschosis, I think she would have exploited the coming birth of a DS child. So my guess is that the baby was not yet born when Palin announced. AND that the mother was young enough to have skipped the prenatal tests for DS.

    A six week window for at least one of the Trigs to be born.

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  3. Anonymous5:01 PM

    Do you think Trig's true birth mother would ever come forward and expose Sarah's lie? If she was forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement, how legally binding would that be?

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  4. Anonymous5:08 PM

    (Part 2)

    In Feb 2008 Sarah herself tried to dispel the rumors that Bristol was pregnant, in a conversation with Bill McAllister.

    On Feb 7, 2008 the Associated Press reported that John McCain effectively sealed the Republican presidential nomination as chief rival Mitt Romney suspended his faltering presidential campaign. “I must now stand aside, for our party and our country,” Romney told conservatives.

    On Feb 8, 2008 Bristol was involved in a minor traffic accident in Wasilla, the driver in the second vehicle does not notice that Bristol is pregnant.

    Throughout February 2008 the chorus of conservative pundits for Palin was loud enough for the mainstream media to take note. Chris Cillizza, reporting for the Web site of the Washington Post, interviewed Palin and asked her if she’d accept an offer to be McCain’s running mate. Though she dismissed the notion as a virtual “impossibility this go-round,” Palin, who had been in office for only fourteen months, said, “Is it generally something that I would want to consider? Yes.”

    At the beginning of March 2008, Bristol “vanished” again. It maybe that she was learning to care for her premature infant or that the infant was discharged to her care.This may also be when Levi dropped out of high school and moved into the Palin home.

    On March 4, 2008 John McCain secured the nomination of the Republican Party. On March 5, 2008 Sarah announced she was 7 months pregnant, Bristol was reported to be furious. None of Palin's staff suspected that she was pregnant. This announcement took family, friends, staff totally by surprise.

    It is suspected that during early April, Levi and Bristol intentionally conceived baby Tripp. Levi's sister Mercede reported on her blog that the couple was deliberate in their efforts to conceive.

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  5. Anonymous5:08 PM

    (Part 3)

    The infamous wild ride from the TX conference occurred on April 17, 2008, when Sarah was allegedly 35 weeks pregnant. On April 18, 2008 Trig was born 5 weeks premature weighing in at 6+ pounds, with DS, jaundice and a heart problem. The Heath grandparents presented a robust and chubby faced Trig to reporters in an open area in the Wasilla hospital. On April 19, 2008 the Palin family left the Wasilla hospital through the back door with Trig.

    Sarah herself has recently changed the birth story by saying in paid speaking events that he was born at 7 1/2 months and that he was delivered in Anchorage. This directly conflicts her tale in her book Going Rogue, her press conference shortly after giving birth, her aides' reports and common folklore. Does any birth mother not know when and where each of her biological children were born?

    On April 19, 2008 – a smiling Bristol wearing a hoodie and blue jeans was photographed with Levi's sister Mercede as Mercede was preparing to attend a prom. Finally, on April 23, 2008 – Sarah took Trig to work.

    Conclusion - neither Bristol nor Sarah delivered Trig on April 18. Sarah was never pregnant in 2007 or 2008. Bristol delivered an infant, most likely in December 2007. The fate of her baby is unknown.

    Photographs of a tiny fragile infant, identified as Trig and taken in the Palin kitchen on May 3, 2008 can be studied. The infant was fondly referred to as Triggybear by Mercede Johnston when she posted the photos on line. These photographs were taken by Levi’s mother, Sherry Johnston. The families were celebrating a significant date because it was the day of Levi’s 18th birthday. The photos, when evaluated, reveal that the infant's right ear is significantly deformed. The photos also show that the infant Triggybear is quite a bit smaller than the infant Trig introduced to the world by the Heath grandparents.

    On May 4, 2008 Sarah's bff Kristan Cole hosted a baby shower for Sarah and Trig, a magazine cover shoot was also done on this day. The infant Trig seen in baby shower photos and on the magazine cover was the infant with the right ear deformity. This infant has not been seen publicly since. The type of deformity would not be corrected during infancy. Cosmetic reconstruction of the external ear would be postponed until the child is 5-8 years of age.

    August 28, 2008 – McCain selected Palin as VP candidate.

    There was motive, opportunity and no history of Sarah having an aversion to creating lies to suit her ends.

    Occam's Razor theory - Trig is Bristol's biological son. Wish I could say that the evidence suggests this, as it would be the most logical ending for the lie that is babygate.

    The evidence suggests that Bristol was pregnant in 2007, delivered in late 2007, Sarah pretended to be pregnant for a very short time in March, April 2008. An infant became available for adoption, this infant had Down Syndrome, Sarah and Todd rushed home from TX to take possession of this infant, and he was used as a prop to boost Palin's bona fides, to help her secure the VP nomination, to endear her to the fundies, to sell books and to fill her booking calendar for those $100K speeches.

    The fate of the infant born to Bristol in late 2007 is unknown. Her anger at her mother prompted an irrational and immature decision to have another baby. This she and Levi accomplished with little difficulty. Tripp was born in December 2008. Many fertile women have had children that are only 12 months apart in age.

    There is so much more to the saga, but this along with Professor Scharlott's study provide sufficient background to see that Palin created a pregnancy out of whole cloth to boost her fundie credentials and secure the nomination. And it worked. One can only hope that Trig is cared for by people that love him and that he is receiving all the best advantages so that he can achieve his full potential. One can only hope that Bristol's first baby has survived and is also in a loving home.

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  6. Anonymous5:20 PM

    (Part 4)

    This 3-part comment was left on the Business Insider blog on 4/13. I accumulated information from the Palin watchdog sites and submitted the comment to BI. I had also previously sent the chrono to Professor Scharlott.

    After posting this long comment, I was amused to find that there were many 'likes' and no rebuttal or attack from the bots. Too may obvious facts and it scared the loons off.

    I submit the long comment here as it parallels what Gryph has stated in this most recent post. It would be easy and simple to say aha, the Granny covered for the daughter. That is the Occam's Razor approach. This information is all available, evidence for much of this sad sorry story is available.

    There are very few missing pieces. Unfortunately, I believe that the missing pieces are truly significant to demonstrate the gigantic fraud, liar and hypocrite that is Sarah Palin. She created a fraudulent pregnancy to bolster her political bona fides and she pimped and promoted her daughter after 3 pregnancies simply for the $$$$$.

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  7. Anonymous5:38 PM

    Someone posted this article from Psychology Today at Palingates. It is an interesting read on Sarah Palin.

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/not-politics-usual/201104/why-does-sarah-palin-need-so-much-attention?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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  8. Anonymous5:48 PM

    How do we know that Willow was the actual driver of the auto accident? As we have seen the have interchanged each other at appearances. Plus Willow, would have been driving illegally, using her sisters DL. I had an older sister, who used her ID many a time....one of the benefits!

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  9. meena5:49 PM

    Tina Fey Talks About Her Sarah Palin Sketch
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0shunWiqRkM

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  10. Anonymous5:50 PM

    All the Trig facts would be the Rosetta Stone. They would allow the whole entire episode to be understood. From whenever this plot started to how it finally ends. Those involved would be exposed. Some as willing participants with knowledge of what was being done, others just used due to their trust and gullibility.

    The Holy Grail would be account books the organizers used to keep track of things and accumulate blackmail material to be used against others. Or the tapes that some of these people probably made for their own get out of jail free insurance.

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  11. Anonymous5:53 PM

    I heard a suggestion by someone-- could Sherrie Johnston have given birth to Trig?

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  12. Anonymous5:54 PM

    PRIOR: If she was forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement, how legally binding would that be?

    RESPOSNE:
    If she was forced to sign an agreement, that's not an agreement. That's duress and probably unenforceable.
    If she chose to sign an agreement, it depends on what you mean by enforceable. THere is no criminal liability for breaking the agreeement - just whatever damages are specified in the non-disclosure contract.

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  13. http://www.businessinsider.com/birth-certificate-barack-obama-sarah-palin-son-trig-2011-4

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  14. Anonymous6:02 PM

    If this pregnancygate ever is completely exposed it will probably be much worse than just lies the family and staffers told about the baby or babies.

    Who knew what and when did they know it? The current Governor? Others in the cabinet both now and when Palin was Governor?

    It will be like Watergate unraveling if it comes completely undone. I don't think that will happen. I think a 'limited hangout' will be done, with the Alaskan fishpickers on the hook.

    Under the bus thumpety thump.
    No charges in exchange for no talking out of turn.

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  15. LoveAndKnishesFromBrooklyn6:05 PM

    I've always believed that Trig was "acquired" outside the family. But by what means is the real question...hope his biological mom is OK and was paid VERY well to give up her child and keep quiet.

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  16. Anonymous6:06 PM

    Part 1 of my original comment on the BI article is missing from the stream here. I modified it slightly and present it again:

    (Part 1)

    It is likely that Bristol was pregnant by late April or early May 2007.

    By June 2007, Governor Palin was in discussions with William Kristol, Fred Barnes and Michael Gerson. On June 18, these Queenmakers disembarked in Juneau from the Holland America Line’s M.S. Oosterdam, and went to the governor’s mansion for lunch. Read more about the luncheon and manipulations that followed in the New Yorker at http://tiny.cc/5whjm

    In July 2007 Barnes wrote the first major national article spotlighting Palin, titled “The Most Popular Governor,” for The Weekly Standard.

    In Sept 2007 the Palin family Christmas photo was taken; Bristol appears pregnant --- especially when this photo is compared to pics from just a few months earlier. During Oct 2007, Sarah and Bristol traveled to NYC where Sarah attended a leadership conference, Bristol was seen in the audience of a MTV show. Her clothing and appearance suggest pregnancy.

    During the Fall of 2007 Bristol disappeared and the reason given was that she was enduring a 5 month long case of mono. Her aunt / Sarah's sister, Heather Bruce, confirmed (in the book Trailblazer by Lorenzo Benet, p. 182, 183) that Bristol lived with her while going to Anchorage West HS. By late 2007 Bristol’s friends were aware of Bristol's pregnancy as was Alaska State Senator Lyda Green.

    It is believed that Bristol delivered a premature infant in December 2007. By Jan - Feb 2008, Bristol reappeared and attended classes in Anchorage.

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  17. One thing that can't be emphasized enough with this story is that, despite Palin's increasing irrelevance to 2012, THIS STORY IS STILL IMPORTANT.

    Why is it important? A person who is either a liar or a fool came within a hair's breadth of becoming second in command of our country because neither the GOP nor the media did its job vetting candidates. We don't want that to happen again, ever.

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  18. I still think hubby might have 'confessed' that a surprise might be coming from one of his affairs and the only way to silence the story would be to adopt the child and payoff the woman. Bristle's pregnancy wouldn't have threatened her candidacy but a baby born on the wrong side of the blanket might.

    There have been so many questionable and carefully scripted omissions and retellings from the palins that it is impossible to accept anything from them at face value.

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  19. Anonymous6:43 PM

    If the nondisclosure agreement was signed under duress, there could be no civil penalties. It would be deemed null and void.

    If the birth mother was worried, she could go or have someone else go to an attorney (even legal aid) and get a confidential opinion either for free of very low cost.

    If money had been exchanged to misrepresent the truth, I doubt that that money would have to be returned to the Palins or whomever ponied up the cash.

    Also, too, if the agreement was eventually deemed illegal (inasmuch it was to create a fraudulent circumstance to fool the voters or gain an advantage over other VP candidates), the birth mother could ask for - and would probably be given immunity in exchange for her testimony.

    My dream is that the whole thing could unravel some rather prominent GOP pundits or strategists and perhaps politicians involved in it. Wahoo - wouldn't that be wonderful?

    Anyway, if there is a birth mother of Trig out there, I hope she or someone close to her will counsel her to seek legal advice and protection. She should not be - and probably would not suffer and negative consequences. Most people would rally round her as a true patriot. The truth can actually be her greatest protection.

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  20. Anonymous6:43 PM

    LoveAndKnishesFromBrooklyn said...
    I've always believed that Trig was "acquired" outside the family. But by what means is the real question...hope his biological mom is OK and was paid VERY well to give up her child and keep quiet.

    6:05 PM

    Don't forget Sarah wanted to "Acquire" Trip from Bristol for appearance sake. So Sarah believes it worked before, it'll work again.

    What kind of sick person would do that? That family is totally screwed up!

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  21. Anonymous7:02 PM

    The Palin family is so disgusting, all of them. If there is such a thing as cooties they would have it.

    I would not let my child go over to their house and play with Piper or eat and drink from their dishes, they are just nasty people.

    I would not let Sarah or Bristol kiss my child on the head or let Todd touch them with his nasty hands. They have no dignity, no self respect or class.

    If you look up trailer park family or white trash family in the internet, you'll see a picture of the Palins.

    Forget Palin Christian family values, the Palins have no family values period. Just garbage, all of them. Nasty nasty family what a shame.

    Just thnk that gross family was an old man's heartbeat away from walking around in the White House.

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  22. Julia O'Malley wrote,
    "I read Scharlott's piece. It contains . . . some widely-circulated Photoshopped pictures."

    She is accusing Prof. Scharlott of using tampered evidence. Which photos? She can't be talking about the Gusty photos being photoshopped, since she likes those photos.

    She needs to prove this assertion, or the ADN needs to retract it.

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  23. Anonymous7:14 PM

    Log on to Greta's website. She is reporting that a large protest rally is planned in Madison Wisconsin tomorrow, at Palin's screech!!

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  24. Anonymous7:18 PM

    I still think it is someone very vulnerable and worthy of protection or because the circumstances of the pregnancy are tragic. This is why no one will talk. Could the child be a result of rape or incest? Could the birth mom be someone who was unable to take care of any child, a DS child,or possibly a second or third handicapped child, etc? Could this child's birth mother be from a remote village and the birth family has no idea about who adopted the child or that someone is trying to pass it off as their own birth child?

    Just trying to open the thinking to a wider range of possibilities.

    Perhaps the right person has not been asked yet.

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  25. Anonymous7:19 PM

    The long comment part one to four is very good for those new to this story.

    Like you said it also is far too long and complicated for the typical Palin troll or supporter to deal with. No doubt it spikes their blood pressure.

    So things like this stand unchallenged while the other side calls people 'turds' and 'muslims'.
    Which does make an impression, but not one that serves their purposes.

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  26. Anonymous7:21 PM

    Anonymous said...
    I would not let Sarah or Bristol kiss my child on the head or let Todd touch them with his nasty hands. They have no dignity, no self respect or class.


    7:02 PM

    No telling what these people have been sucking on in their mouths. Knowing pervert Todd, who knows what he had his fingers in or what he has been playing with.

    This is just so amazing, this family was the so called first family in Alaska, they represented Alaska. Nobody in the world can name a family like the Palins. They lacked education, always in trouble or bullying somebody.

    Instead of raising good kids, they raised garbage.

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  27. Anonymous7:33 PM

    The GOP is not just guilty of improper vetting. It is guilty of co-conspiracy.

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  28. Anonymous7:46 PM

    I see repetitive behavior as a common thread for this family. We have seen it with reports of threats to the family whenever things heat up.

    I think that Sarah's offer to adopt Tripp indicates that adoption is how Sarah wished to deal with unwanted pregnancies. I'm curious, if Bristol and Levi had been willing to take Sarah and Todd up on their offer to adopt Trig, would Bristol have gone into hiding and Sarah fake that pregnancy. How did Sarah think they would explain baby #6? Were they thinking that they would be upfront with everyone about the whole thing?? Or was it just an attempt to repeat what had already been done with a previous hidden pregnancy? I wonder.

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  29. Anonymous8:19 PM

    I still don't believe Bristol was pregnant.

    I don't like that Brad mentions Tripp's birth and dates because it was Bristol's specific wish not to have press near the hospital.

    Also, remember it was malicious Lyda Green and Co who started rumors of a Bristol PG around the Capitol.

    Bristol did not appear pregnant in Sept 07, in Oct 07 or at school in Jan 08. She did not live in Anch before Jan.

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  30. Anonymous8:21 PM

    Levi didn't live with them before winter 08. He also wasn't there a whole lot due to work etc and certainly wasn't there much when Sarah + family was.

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  31. Anonymous8:25 PM

    G, do you know Levi said Sarah told the family about her pregnancy the day before the announcement?

    Do you have details as to why everyone looked so happy in the triggybear photos?

    I know there wasn't much drama going on. BRistol was mad that her peers thought Trig was hers, as any teen would be. I was in that position in high school. It is frustrating.

    Honestly, from every interview Bristol's given, I don't get the feeling she was pregnant before. She was pretty carefree and acting like a normal teen up until spring 08.

    ALSO REMEMBER (PROBABLY PRETTY IMPORTANT) WASILLA HIGH CLASS OF 08 HAS ABOUT THE HIGHEST TEEN PREGNANCY RATE EVER IN THE AREA. STUDENTS JOKE ABOUT IT.

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  32. Anonymous8:27 PM

    We will never know, nor is out business to know, Levi and Bristol's pasts. It is not relevant. We do know that their relationship definitely was not as serious as they want the country to believe and it didn't begin really until fall 07. Bristol led a normal teen life through that summer. Levi led a normal playboy life through that year.

    The two teens weren't even a couple in early 08.

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  33. Anonymous8:32 PM

    Answer me this: if Bristol's reasoning for not going to Juneau (despite several best friends there) was to remain closer to Levi, that pretty much means she wasn't pregnant. The family spent xmas at the cabin as per usual. If she were pregnant and it was Levi's, I'd imagine S and T wouldn't have tried to fight that relationship as hard as normal parents would. I mean c'mon, loser dropout boy, rebellious girl, dating lifespan several months. Any parent would attempt to halt it.

    All the evidence points to not pregnant and her comment to Greta in FEb 09 "I think people are just evil" fits in there too.

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  34. Anonymous8:34 PM

    And remember, Bristol and Levi's relationship wasn't strong when 08 started, wasn't strong when summer 08 started, wasn't strong during the campaign, and failed miserably in Jan 09. Then he started to publicly disintegrate before our eyes due to rejection and immaturity.

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  35. Anonymous8:36 PM

    Anon with the four-part comment (which is excellent, btw!), you note in part 1, "By late 2007 Bristol’s friends were aware of Bristol's pregnancy as was Alaska State Senator Lyda Green." I hadn't heard this info before. Where did you find it?

    I'd heard most of the rest, but seeing it presented chronologically like this is very helpful. Thanks!

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  36. Anonymous8:37 PM

    We don't know anything about what happened. We can't trust anyone. No one was kept in the loop. I'd be shocked if Levi himself knew EVERYTHING. Bristol seems like the type to use in the moment, get bored and say buhbye. Besides, Levi was hardly around. He played hockey until Feb 08 then started illegally working no?

    I think we need to drop the Bristol discussion completely. Nothing will be uncovered. Wait for what's in her book. Sarah's book gave many hints about her life if you read through lines. I'm sure Bristol's will too. She's a pretty straight shooter.

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  37. Anonymous8:39 PM

    Remember, there was no fighting amongst the Palins during the summer, fall or winter of 08. And they were always together (prob hatching plans)

    I highly doubt ANYONE outside the blood family knows anything worth anything. incl signif others

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  38. Anonymous8:41 PM

    Yeah I dont believe for a minute that Sarah offered to adopt Tripp. I totally believe she sat Bristol down right there and developed a life plan. Probably without Levi. Bristol was soo not into Levi from May 08 on. It was so obvious and even more obvious in retrospect.

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  39. Anonymous8:44 PM

    With everything about the Trig hoax coming out in the media, I'm a bit worried about what might happen in Madison.

    We've already heard some (probably) false rape threats from Palin.

    And we mustn't forget that there are some powerful people who could be hurt by the revelations of someone currently in witness protection.

    If anything were to go amiss in Madison, I hope all of us reading the blog, as well as the proper authorities, will have a high degree of suspicion.

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  40. Anonymous8:46 PM

    If Bristol were pregnant before Tripp, why was she hidden? We know from her easygoing persona that she was not in babymode in 2007. It doesn't make sense to hide her if the baby was going to be kept by her. NOW, if Bristol agreed to let Sarah take him, then the hiding makes since.

    I sincerely and passionately doubt Bristol was pregnant in 2007. She didn't carry herself like a PG girl. She didn't grow from sept to oct. she even got smaller since june 07.

    ok enough. none of our business

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  41. Anonymous8:47 PM

    to 7:21, obviously your parents raised trash as well. Nice to know you judge someone before you get to know them. I feel sorry for you.

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  42. Anonymous8:54 PM

    In Sept 2007 the Palin family Christmas photo was taken; Bristol appears pregnant --- especially when this photo is compared to pics from just a few months earlier.

    Really? Bristol looked BIGGER in Oct 07 than June 07? I don't think so. She was rather chunky faced and thick waisted at the matsu picnic.

    Oh and about the clothing Bristol wore to trl: a tight skirt? really?

    It's funny Benet mentioned Lyda Green because that woman is honest about anything and had every reason to drum up a teenage pregnancy against Sarah

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  43. Anonymous9:24 PM

    OT. We already have Walker. Do we really need Palin, also, too? Can't she simply have her circumcision checked in AZ and stay there or Alaska.

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/sarah-palin-wisconsin#comment-83843

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  44. Anonymous9:24 PM

    Months ago, I posted this to explain my belief that Bristol is not the mother of any of the Trigs we have seen so far:

    "i) Mercede doesn't remember seeing Bristol pregnant at the time in question;
    ii) Bristol doesn't really look like a new mother in those Triggy-bear pics to me;
    iii) there was an anonymous comment here on IM a while ago that said that SP only wanted everyone to believe that Bristol is Trig's mother when in fact she isn't;
    iv) both Gryphen and commenters on other blogs said that the real story behind Trig is very sad;
    v) someone commented several times on Weigel's blog at The Washington Post that SP had a hysterectomy after Piper;
    vi) there are at least 3 babies involved--the original Trig, and the 2 DS babies (campaign and book-tour).

    So, here is my theory: the original Trig (Triggy bear a.k.a. 'ruffled ears') was born to a member of SP's (extended) family as a result of something tragic and/or horrible. SP had to take care of the child because of the connection to her and decided that Bristol should be the 'mother duck'. But then she realized that this provided her with a great opportunity to prove her conservative family values. So, Bristol got off the hook and her mother took over (hence the 'short' pregnancy). But original Trig turned out to be very sick and too weak to be paraded around, plus if he really is a FAS baby many people would soon have recognised the signs and asked unwelcome questions. So, they had to look for a special needs baby she could use as a prop during the campaign. Original Trig is probably still part of the family, but still not doing too well (my guess, based on the lawn photo from those hacked emails).

    So, sooner or later she will have to come clean about what really happened, at least in part, because she can't 'borrow' another DS baby simply because that baby would be too old for her to carry around and 'show off'. "

    These days, I think she will never come clean herself, not because of the faking a pregnancy itself but because of her reasons for doing so. She would have to explain WHY she did it, and then everything would begin to unravel and things would come out that she has wanted to hide ever since the whole thing started.

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  45. Anonymous9:25 PM

    And I keep coming back to what an anonymous poster wrote on PA a while back (scroll down to their first comment starting with 'CBJ is a specialist in child sexual abuse. Think about that and about why so many people, even people who don't like or respect the Palins are willing to keep the secret.') IMO, SP will never admit what she did on her own. Someone else will spill the beans. She is so used to lying and getting away with it, and to being 'protected' by the people in her inner circle and those around her who are in deep denial--just like her.

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  46. Anonymous9:28 PM

    Trig looks just like Piper and he looks like Sarah and Todd. Although this hoax theory is fun to think about, the most logical explanation is that Sarah gave birth to Trig.

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  47. Anonymous10:11 PM

    Commenter above who is saying that because Trig does look like a family member, he is definitely Sarah's child, well, there are quite a few other possibilities to consider to account for the family resemblance.

    Some of them:

    Sarah could be Trig's grandmother.
    Sarah could be his aunt.
    Todd could be his father.
    Todd could be his grandfather.
    Todd could be his uncle (Todd's sister the mother?)
    Track could be his father.
    (I don't think Willow could be his mother, by all evidence.)
    Trig could be a cousin.

    I guess I'll take Gryphen's word for it that Bristol isn't his mother...

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  48. WakeUpAmerica10:12 PM

    Gryphen, do you happen to know what the story is behind that crybaby titmouse face of Palin in that picture? She looks like someone shoved limburger cheese up her nose. Cracks me up every time I see it.

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  49. Anonymous10:12 PM

    For those of you asking that the real birth mother come forward: A person who gives up her child for adoption does not always know where her child goes to, and may not recognize the cild in pictures. If she does know where het child is, she would not come forward for two reasons: she does not want to upset her birth child in its new environment, and she may fear the backlash from the public (How could you give up your own child...)
    Remember, she gave up her child, for reasons that are hers alone. We don't have any right to 'demand' she step forward.
    Savvy

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  50. Anonymous10:15 PM

    I analyzed the issue too. Sorry. My money is on Bristol being Trig's birth mother.

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  51. Anonymous10:20 PM

    When the trolls mob the comments section, you know you've come too close to the truth of the situation. It is interesting to see how many of the trolls know the $palins personally and intimately....

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  52. Anonymous10:54 PM

    9:28pm...logical? logical if your IQ is maxed out at about 55/60

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  53. Anonymous11:04 PM

    What a picture! What was Palin thinking when somebody took a picture of her ugly mug? That picture represents Palins true character. That's one ugly SOB.

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  54. Anonymous11:38 PM

    I've often wondered if the baby isn't Track's child. Thinking the girl (and/or her parents) rec'd hush money, college money, or more.

    This way there would only be one out-of-wedlock child. Two would surely disqualify McCain from considering Sarah as a running mate. Sarah the opportunist wouldn't let that opportunity slip away, now would she?

    To hide the 'evidence', Sarah 'adopted' the baby by giving 'birth' to it. A lot of laws broken here & more than a few have to be complicit.

    Track then went in the military to avoid jail time, a paternity suit & child support.

    Denise (Michigan)

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  55. Anonymous11:53 PM

    ot but the few remaining retards over at the sea of piss are all creamin' their jeans over $carah's screech in Oklahoma tonight. they claim that over 9000 women attended, then you look at a clip of the audience with a few thousand empty seats everywhere in the 10,944 seat arena sez it all..fukin' delusional retards...

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  56. Merry3:18 AM

    What continues to be the big problem with getting to the bottom of the story is there has never been enough momentum to push editors to go after it.

    If, when it finally does get picked up, the press decide to conclude that the Bristol-as-teen-mom of "Trig" is the right version, there will be a sympathy factor: mom and dad want to protect reputation and virtue of teen daughter.
    Dishonest but understandable, and the story remains a private, family matter.

    The other story, much more full of deceit, that Trig(s) came from somewhere else, and why, is a much harder pill to swallow, one the press will continue to resist. It is also one that will take a lot more work for them to uncover.

    This is the real danger: that the subterfuge will be lost. I predict the easier story will become the new myth. I hope I'm wrong.

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  57. Anonymous3:47 AM

    Looks like the paid Bot has arrived to take up for Bristol, the carefree fun-loving not in preggers mode girl.

    Notice the bad spelling and word use, hilarious.

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  58. Anonymous4:29 AM

    Sarah could not have accomplished any of these deceits without the cooperation of CBJ. Why would this level of cooperation in such a deceit be forthcoming, from a physician? The answer lies in what CBJ had to gain. Think about it. Did she place a child for adoption, a DS child at that, resulting from sexual abuse? Why else would she cooperate as she obviously has?

    True Blue Girl

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  59. Anonymous4:31 AM

    I see the trolls are working overtime on this one.

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  60. Anonymous4:36 AM

    What would buy the silence of Trig's birth family? The solution to THEIR problem, shame, etc. I think CBJ placed such a baby, perhaps from child sexual abuse, and the price was her cooperation.

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  61. Anonymous4:44 AM

    I would not let Sarah or Bristol kiss my child on the head or let Todd touch them with his nasty hands.


    I would hope not. Herpes is very contagious.

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  62. Anonymous4:46 AM

    Also, remember it was malicious Lyda Green and Co who started rumors of a Bristol PG around the Capitol.



    OMG Sarah, you are so disgusting. You laughed at Lyda Green because she had cancer... The whole school was talking about Bristol's pregnancy and how she was hidden and other pregnant students were not.

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  63. Anonymous4:48 AM

    I mean c'mon, loser dropout boy, rebellious girl, dating lifespan several months.


    WTF? Levi dropped out AFTER Bristol did. She is sooo proud of her GED....pfffft.

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  64. Anonymous4:49 AM

    He played hockey until Feb 08 then started illegally working no?


    well....that's when he moved in with the Palins.

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  65. Anonymous5:06 AM

    I still believe Bristol gave birth to both babies, just not on the dates that they announced. I've never been convinced by the ear photos. I believe all the photos are of the same child, Trig.
    Palin faked the pregnancy to protect Bristol and her own image. Things got complicated when Bristol became pregnant again and Palin got the nomination. Palin had to continue to live the lie.

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  66. Anonymous5:16 AM

    It's Bristol's disappearance from school and the rumors that she was pregnant followed by Sarah Palin's sudden announcement of a seven-month pregnancy that I find to be the strongest circumstantial evidence that Trig is Bristol's baby.

    I don't think anyone has every accounted for Bristol's whereabouts early in 2008.

    I also believe Levi Johnston that Sarah Palin was pressuring them to adopt their baby, but I think it was Trig, not Tripp he was talking about.

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  67. Anonymous7:33 AM

    @True Blue Girl: CBJ is bound by HIPPA and could have become involved initially because she wanted to help Palin protect her daughter. If Palin did pull off a hoax it's very unlikely she told CBJ she was going to claim the baby as her own. CBJ could have been just as shocked by Palin's pregnancy announcement as everyone else, but could not speak out because of HIPAA.

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  68. Anonymous9:10 AM

    Wow---this almost seems to be a way to get Bristol back in the headlines and a book promotion tool!----"what to know the story, buy the book"

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  69. Anonymous9:31 AM

    If the birth mother signed a non disclosure agreement, how would Sarah Palin ever enforce it if the birth mother came out in public with the whole story? To go after the birth mother, Sarah would have to admit the story was true and she (Sarah) was a fraud. She'll never do that.

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  70. sandipants9:43 AM

    I noticed that the Pschology Today writer said that Sarah was a college dropout. Check out the University of Idaho's famous alumni page - she's not mentioned. Hmm. Palingates did a great post that shows it would have been improbably that she could have graduated when she says she did based on all her transfers between community colleges and universities. She has also changed the name of her degree in speeches - from Journalism to Communications. More trademark lies...

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  71. Anonymous10:35 AM

    I've always wondered if she actually graduated. When transferring between colleges, especially between states and most likely both the semester (2 semesters per academic year) and quarter (three quarters to the same long academic year) systems, not to mention the various programs with their various core course requirements, it's unlikely she actually earned a bachelor's. Wouldn't that be an interesting lie to catch her at!

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  72. Anonymous2:26 PM

    I think you might be on the money, Denise from Michigan. This possibility is as likely as any.

    Sarah couldn't have two children becoming teenage parents, not with all her ambitions.

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