Thursday, February 02, 2012

Just how much daylight is there between Todd Palin's old party, the Alaska Independence Party, and the militias in Alaska? As it turns out, not much at all.

Ray Southwell and Norm Olson co-founders of the Alaska Citizens Militia.
For quite some time now the AIP has been very, very quiet about the arrest of Francis "Schaeffer" Cox, which I thought was kind of interesting since I have long believed that the AIP shares a number of members with various militias around the state.

In fact Mary Morgan, Shaeffer's number one fan and currently incarcerated domestic terrorist, appears to be a member of both. In fact she is STILL listed as an AIP contact person for the Muldoon/Mountain View/Wonder Park area.

However I have recently learned that this connection was made virtually official back in 2010, when the AIP offered Alaska Citizens Militia founder Norm Olson the Lt. Governor position on their party's ticket:

AIP leadership met Friday in Nikiski and selected Norm Olson, of Nikiski, co-founder of the Michigan Militia and Alaska Citizens Militia, as its nominee for lieutenant governor. 

Olson said he was contacted by party representatives Friday and asked to consider the party’s lieutenant governor slot on the November general election ballot, to run with Don Wright as the AIP candidate for governor. 

“There’s nothing about the Alaskan Independence Party that I don’t like. It’s just great,” Olson said. “And when I was asked to run as their lieutenant governor in the upcoming elections I jumped on the bandwagon and accepted the nomination and threw my hat in the ring, so to speak.”

Now for reasons that are still a little hazy ( Ray Southwell, AIP state senate candidate and Alaska Citizens militia co-founder: “I’ve known Norm Olson for 25 years and I knew that once he was appraised of the situation or the circumstances leading up to the Friday meeting that he would withdraw his name.”) Olson was only the nominee for one weekend, before he bailed.

However for that one weekend Olson seemed to believe that his Lt. Governor nomination (For a party that had no hope of winning the election mind you) was tantamount to being nominated for emperor of Alaska.

See for yourself in this e-mail that Olson sent out to his supporters on September 4, 2010.(And which I now have in my possession.):


I have been chosen to be the candidate for the Alaska Independence Party's candidate for Lt. Governor of the state of Alaska. (I really don't know if they understand what they've got on their plate.) 

I am asking every recipient of this email to get out there and tell people that we are on the verge of a political revolution: Alaska for Alaskans! Nothing more and nothing less. That is my position. If you want political war, we'll give you a good fight!!!! 

Tell people that Norm Olson, Commander of the Alaska Citizens Militia, and co-founder of the Michigan Militia (together with Ray Southwell, who is running for House Seat 34) that we are alerting Alaska! 

This is political WAR!!!! Do you want to tell the federal government that they have no part in Alaska? You want to tell the world that Alaska is for ALASKANS? Have you got the backbone for a really good fight? 

I ask that you go into every mining camp...every bar...every campfire...every home....and every other place where REAL Alaskans congregate and tell them that that Radical, Constitutionalist, and Controversial Militia Leader, Norm Olson, is running for Lt. Governor. Arlen Specter and the US Senate are small potatoes to me. I'm ready and willing to take on the biggest and the baddest that the Federal Government can throw at me. (see Norm Olson, US Senate on Youtube.com) 

I want your vote, yes! But beyond that, I want your pledge and your sovereign vow to support me as I stand against the Federal Government's long reach into the private lives of REAL ALASKANS. Our "Lexington Green" is coming soon. You must make your decision to take your stand as INDEPENDENT SOVEREIGN ALASKANS or continue to suck on the tit of the federal sow! What's it going to be? 

I'm not playing political games here, folks. I'm saying that together with Don Wright, the AIP candidate for Governor, that I will work to mobilize the ENTIRE ALASKA MILITIA, MADE UP OF ALL ALASKANS, to stand against the rape and pillage of the federal government of this God-Given blessed gift called Alaska. And every REAL ALASKAN, no matter what your age or background, will be part of the "militia" (the citizen soldier, preparing for the battle against tyranny, oppression and corruption). The Founding Fathers spoke of this day. We have been warned that this is the "finest hour". Will it be sovereignty or slavery? Will it be the federal government's slave on THEIR plantation, or will we be independent and strong? 

I ask you to forward this email to every living soul in Alaska that Norm Olson, Co-Founder of the Michigan Citizens Militia, and Commander of the Alaska Citizens Militia has declared war against the TYRANNY, OVERREACH, OBSTRUCTION, AND OPPRESSION of the Federal Government. 

If you want a fight, let it begin with me! We don't want war, but if it MUST come, then WE ALASKANS are well-prepared. 

Let people know that I am with TRUE ALASKANS. We can do it ourselves. We can develop our own resources. We can enable and inspire the native Alaskans to stand up and refuse to suck on the tit of the Federal Government from this day forward!!!! Our native American brethren are being pressed into slavery, to remain dependent for generations, to deny their own children and grand-children the dignity that comes with self-reliance, self-sufficiency, and self-determination. I'm asking every native American businessman and visionary to stand with me to make YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE! 

Stand up REAL ALASKANS! They want a political war? I'll give them a war they never expected. We have more than a half-million Alaskans who are fed up with being "the step-child in the attic who isn't invited to Thanksgiving dinner." 

Support me as your Lt. Governor. They want political war? I'm willing to give it to them! 

I'm not asking for money.... BUT, if you get excited about bringing the full weight of America's political attention to our long-hard fought battle for justice, I'm trusting that you will send something to the Alaska Independence Party. Please designate all financial support for Norm Olson's War Chest to Do Battle Against The Federal RAPE AND PILLAGE of Alaska! 

 If you can't handle the TRUE REALITY of what is coming here in Alaska, then don't bother. BUT, if you are a TRUE ALASKAN who has the blood and the spirit of those who carved out a life from the wilderness, and has been touched by the Great Spirit Who has ALREADY GIVEN US VICTORY, please stand with me. 

Holy crap!  It looks like somebody's GI Joe Underoos are a little too tight!

As you can tell Olson seemed to be under the impression that his AIP nomination was some kind of call to war, and was all but preparing to storm the capital in Juneau and replace the American flag with this AIP flag instead.

(Or perhaps the Jolly Roger even.)

And as for all of this "TRUE ALASKAN" rhetoric, it might be instructive to remember that Olson had ONLY been in Alaska for six years at this point, having arrived with his Brokeback Mountain buddy Ray Southwell back in 2004.

However like I said Olson removed his name from consideration for the Lt. Governor slot, so Alaska was spared the possibility of being dragged into a war with Washington DC. Whew!

However Olson's special friend, Ray Southwell, remained the AIP choice for a state senate opening, but of course he lost. No doubt his chances were not helped by statements such as this:

“I’m very active and outspoken on my militia stand. People think that, because of the media’s portrayal over the last 15 years, that the militia is a terrorist organization, that somehow (the Oklahoma City bombing) was related to me somehow. There’s no documentation, it just becomes reported in the media"

Yeah there's no actual "documentation" to prove that Southwell or Olson had anything to do with the Oklahoma bombing. Besides according to Olson that attack really had nothing to do with the militias.

Norman Olson retained the position of Commander of the MMC until after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, where he published a press release blaming the Japanese for the bombing, supposedly in retaliation for a clandestine US-sponsored gas attack in the Tokyo subway system.

I assume that somewhere Olson has "documentation" to prove THAT.

So as you can see the Alaska militias and the AIP are, if not joined in unholy matrimony, at least kissing cousins.

Now Todd Palin has not been a member of the AIP since 2002, well BEFORE Norm Olson arrived in Alaska (Though militias were present in Alaska before his arrival), but if you are starting to notice that the AIP attracts a certain kind of anti-government mentality, and wondering if the more fringe elements of that party had anything to do with starting Sarah Palin's political career, I have just one word fro you.

Bingo!

According to John Stein (The previous Mayor of Wasilla that Palin virtually destroyed with negative campaigning):

“She got support from these guys,” Stein remarked. “I think smart politicians never utter those kind of radical things, but they let other people do it for them. I never recall Sarah saying she supported the militia or taking a public stand like that. But these guys were definitely behind Sarah, thinking she was the more conservative choice.” 

“They worked behind the scenes,” said Stein. “I think they had a lot of influence in terms of helping with the back-scatter negative campaigning.”

So you ask, why am I bringing this up now?

Well, partly because I just recently received some e-mails explaining just how cozy the AIP and militias are in this state, but also because I am providing a back story to help you to understand the information that I am being told is headed our way.

Information, by the way, that will be VERY, VERY interesting to those of us who have been following politics in Alaska, and ESPECIALLY interesting to those who have been following the career of a certain disgraced Alaskan politician.

Stay tuned.

47 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:22 AM

    Do Palin's "Mama Grizzly" and "North Star" relate to AIP imagery?

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  2. Anonymous4:27 AM

    Is Alaska completely full of nut cases and Sarah Palin is just the tip of the iceberg?

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  3. Tom Joad4:41 AM

    G-Man,
    I just booked a flight to Alaska. Will be arriving on Saturday. I hope i'm not too late for all that "raping & pillaging of Alaska".....
    Come on everyone the RUSH is on, just like the gold rush of olden times.
    Get your pillaging on!

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  4. Anonymous4:42 AM

    Juicy! Looking forward to more details, Gryph.

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  5. Anonymous4:52 AM

    Interesting. . .

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  6. angela4:53 AM

    Well, lets face it. Todd Palin can run alongside Newt even though he probably hunts and fishes with AIP and Militia guys on a daily basis. Now if old Newton was getting Secret Service protection how would Todd's, err friends be viewed and would Newt have to boot him? Not as Newt has no scruples.

    Palin is only anti-government when SHE'S not running it. The Palins are the poster children for what the AIP wants to do. But because they are conservative and kinda republican they get away with it. Oh where oh where is FAUX reporter when you need him?

    Now watch Palin go on a rant about the "terrorists"
    the President supposedly hung with.

    You sure do push the poor woman's buttons Gryphen. And I look forward to anything that uncovers smarmy politics and scary militias.

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  7. Oh goody! Fun stuff coming down the pike. And of course these wackadoodles supported the wackadoodle from Wasilla.

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  8. Hoken5:17 AM

    I'd expect to find overlap and cooperation among nearly all the right-wing fringe groups b/c they tend to attract kindred spirits. I remember seeing a photo of Palin as mayor w/ some prominently displayed literature open on her desk from the John Birch Society calling for a new constitutional convention (one to be held by rill Amurikans this time). Throw in some bibles, teabags and corporate backing, and you've got a now-familiar political party.

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  9. Anonymous5:24 AM

    Then, of course, you have that photo of Sally Heath posing with members of the Alaska militia at the 2009 Wasilla Tea Party gathering:

    http://www.findingmyselfinalaska.com/2009_09_01_archive.html

    MicMac

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  10. Anonymous5:37 AM

    These guys look like they're engaged!

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  11. WakeUpAmerica5:43 AM

    Oh goody, the tease. Followed by the........long wait. Kind of like waiting for ANY info on the status of Fred's book.

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  12. Anonymous5:44 AM

    MicMac,
    Those are some nice Drop Zone t-shirts! So Sally Heath was "pallin' around" with terrorists, eh?

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  13. Anonymous5:44 AM

    I see an iceberg & the Palins are on the Titanic...

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  14. LoveAndKnishesFromBrooklyn5:46 AM

    While this matters to you and me (and to most thinking people), the diehard T-Partiers don't give a fig, IMO, as they're just a well-funded rehash of the John Birchers with better PR. In fact, some members might view the wholesome, happy Palin (and Heath) family's involvement in this sort of activity as all "mavericky" and "rogue." The C4Peers often address each other as "barbarians" with their new meme "rage against the machine." Can you imagine if OWS adopted this kind of phrase? The RWNJ Network would have the gullible rubes in a frenzy over the "hippie terrorists."

    But I'm sure if Mittens somehow gets to be POTUS, all this militia crap will either die down or crawl back underground. And Teflon Tessie's nearest and dearest will get away with something else once more.

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  15. Anonymous6:05 AM

    Another reason that Palin knows she could never run for President of the United States. The Palins have so damned much baggage it isn't funny!

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  16. My Grandma used to say that all the loose marbles roll to California.
    Looks like she was off by a couple thousand miles.

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  17. Anonymous6:35 AM

    4:22..AIP imagery-Polar Bear and the Big Dipper
    http://www.akip.org/introduction.html

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  18. Dinty6:43 AM

    Nope! Chuck Testa! (The guy on the left really looks like Chuck Testa)

    Context: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nope-chuck-testa

    Maybe he's here to make another lifelike mount of Ms. Palin's political career.

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  19. Former Alaskan6:59 AM

    Well, pretty much all the Alaskans I've met (when I lived there and am contacted by via mutual friends), ages 16 - 58, are anti-govt, libertarian types. They all seem to like Ron Paul and his mentality. It makes sense. Alaska isn't like the rest of the country. People dont succeed in the same way. One can be successful with no formal education and heavily calloused hands.

    It's unnecessary and dangerous to condemn Independence parties. They are not nutcases. They're people who know it's not "right" for a set of "men" in stuffy DC to dictate how we do business and thrive. It's not moral to make more successful people pay higher taxes with purposes of giving to poorer people. That ISNT MORAL NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.

    I stand with people who say no to big government. Socialism doesn't thrive singly. Anyone can be happy and successful under capitalism. Don't let sour apples and perpetually jealous haters tell you otherwise.

    The more I read of Gryphen's blog, the more I realize he doesn't know jack about the majority of his fellow residents.

    We can't live like Govt WILL ALWAYS be there. That is unhealthy.

    Let's build a healthy private sector and keep public minimal. all thats needed. As long as all bases are covered, excess in govt needs to go. Look to FL for guidance.

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  20. Anonymous7:00 AM

    Tom, If you're serious, you will love Alaska. There aren't nicer, more open people and it's beautiful. The southern mentality is definitely strong.

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  21. Anonymous7:04 AM

    Loveandknishes,

    Why does it matter to you? Why do you want people addicted to government? Why do you want people dependable on others?

    You're obviously not from a self-sustainable state where people are fiercely independent and say "no thanks" to handouts.

    The republicans who speak about anti-government are not to be criticized, as that's just common sense. We are not Europe, which has failed. Funny how THEY come HERE and thrive better than we as a nation.

    So, to all you anti-hardwork, anti-independent goons, please move out of my country.

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  22. Anonymous7:18 AM

    Please be careful, Gryphen, and also watch out for your daughter.

    This explains why Sarah was SO insistent that McCain's campaign lie about Todd's involvement in the AIP!

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  23. Todd's voter registration change from AIP to Independent was timed with Sarah's run for Lt. Gov.. Also, too, they left the Wasilla AOG church for Wasilla Bible Church in 2002. Stealth moves. Infiltrate and conquer.

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  24. Anonymous7:59 AM

    In 2010, Alaska took $139.77 per person in earmarks. That put the state in the top 5 in accepting earmarks, behind Hawaii, North Dakota, West Virginia, and Mississippi.

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  25. Anonymous8:00 AM

    Norm looks like just a dumb tourist in Williamsburg, Va... they all wear the same hats.

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  26. Anonymous8:05 AM

    Anonymous said...

    MicMac,
    Those are some nice Drop Zone t-shirts! So Sally Heath was "pallin' around" with terrorists, eh?
    5:44 AM
    Anonymous said...

    I see an iceberg & the Palins are on the Titanic...
    5:44 AM
    **************
    Yeppers!
    And remember now DZ was owned by a undercover Federal agent, Joe Miller 4 Senate, Todd Palin endorsed Joe Miller, and Sarah Endorsed the AIP and taped a welcome for them in 2008 and who Pals around with Terrorists?
    Why Sarah Palin, You Betcha! :)

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  27. Anonymous8:14 AM

    @ 6:59

    You really do not understand the way the majority of Americans live. You are simply out of touch with the reality of a planet with 6-7 billion people.

    On a planet with 7 billion:

    obtaining protein by hunting in the wild or most or all isn't possible - game animals would become extinct.

    obtaining a reliable fuel source and power grid for heat, light and other needs isn't anything that can be done individually or even by local governments. Being beholden to large corporations which by law are charged as their foremost concern profit, means many will die, and do so brutally.

    obtaining water reliably is already problematic and requires international negotiation, see compact, Great Lakes Basin. Let corporations do it - see the problem/result above with the privatization solution.

    Your rugged individualist anarchist utopia is the unrealistic fantasy of a very small minority of Americans. The @ 80% of urban and suburban Americans realize that in crowded conditions, one has to be more civilized, either by custom or rule.

    Yes, little boys like you do try to escape to the backyard tent on warm summer nights, but isn't it funny how they come running back to the house the minute a squirrel scratches the leaves?

    And the adults have stayed up, making sure you have a safe place to run to, even if in your immaturity you claim to despise the rules of that place.

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  28. Anonymous8:15 AM

    Former Alaskan said...

    Well, pretty much all the Alaskans I've met (when I lived there and am contacted by via mutual friends), ages 16 - 58, are anti-govt, libertarian types.
    bla,bla,bla
    6:59
    *******
    Well Brooklyn, again STFU with your stupid ass rants.
    This teabagger bullshit is like 5th grade level.
    And also too, quit posting as chuck jr at the zoo.

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  29. Anon 7:04 reminded me of a pet peeve...actually of several but I'll only address one.

    Wait. Nevermind. That would be taking the troll's bait to get us off the juicy topic of Todd and the militia.

    I wonder if 'Game Change' will address Sarah's blatant lie to Steve Schmidt about Todd's AIP membership. What little vetting the woman had was based on lies and omissions.

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  30. Anonymous8:20 AM

    Anon 6:59..As a former Alaskan myself, I don't know anyone who is for Ron Paul and I have hundreds of friends and relatives living there. Most people I know there think the AIP people are a little nutty in their thinking, remember Joe Vogler.
    When you say "pretty much all Alaskans", you are speaking for your own little group because if it were true then the Gov. and Representatives would be all from the AIP.

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  31. Anonymous8:24 AM

    Oh, stuff it, 6:59.

    Heard all that wheeze so many times, and it's as stale as Palin's hairdos. Anybody who still believes that government-vs-private enterprise myth is suffering from such a level of cognitive dissonance that it ought to be fatal.

    Grow up. Government and enterprise are two sides of the same coin, which is a much harder proposition to deal with to control both, now, isn't it? Too hard for dopes like you to figure out. So we get to hear your ninny-ass whining over...and over...and over.

    So put a cork in it.

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  32. Dinty8:25 AM

    @7:04 If the "Hardworking, Independent and 'Un-dependable' [sic]" State to which you refer is Alaska, I direct you to this chart which illustrates the amount of federal tax dollars spent per dollar received:

    http://www.visualeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/tax.jpg

    Alaska is ranked third, receiving $1.84/$1 received. That ranks Alaska third among welfare states only behind New Mexico and Mississippi.

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  33. Anonymous8:28 AM

    6:59..whoa there former Alaskan..how many Government hand outs has Alaska taken over the past years?? Even while Alaska was rich in oil they were taking Government money. Maybe the Government should just pull out of Alaska, no more Military,welfare& foodstamps, Gov. jobs, Gov. handouts..where would you be?

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  34. angela8:41 AM

    Anon 6:59

    What you say would hold more water if Alaska wasn't one of the biggest welfare states in the United States. I don't think YOU get it. All that supposed independence has come at a price. Like most red states Alaska is heavily funded by the bad old government. It is probably one of the most socialist states in the union.

    Also--how is it immoral to make rich people pay the SAME taxes as poor people. They pay less. What moral foot are you standing on? Or are you just bloviating?

    I vote—bloviating.

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  35. Anonymous9:13 AM

    7:04..

    Alaska is not a self-sustainable state..where would you be without the food, clothes, building supplies, welfare money, foodstamps, Gov. Indian health care,I could go on and on. You get all of this from the lower 48 or the Government..your talking out of you pi hole!

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  36. Anonymous9:28 AM

    If it wasn't for the Military (US Government) building the Alcan Highway and putting US Military bases in Alaska, where in hell would these "we don't need Government" people be!! On an iceburg, isolated from the rest of the world..maybe that's what they want.
    I grew up listening to Joe Vogler's anti-Government rants on TV and radio..Sarah just sounds like another AIP Joe Volger!

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  37. Anonymous9:51 AM

    Mr "former Alaskan", you just need to shut your pie hole and come back to reality. And while you're at it, ask your pals in Alaska if they gave THEIR annual check back to that Big Bad Government.
    Grow up.

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  38. Anonymous10:22 AM

    Most young boys grow up, put away their toys, find an interest in girls and stop playing soldier.

    Is same sex marriage legal in Alaska? These two look like they are in a committed relationship.

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  39. Anonymous10:34 AM

    Former Alaskan 6:59 AM said "...
    all the Alaskans I've met...ages 16 - 58, are anti-govt, libertarian types. They all seem to like Ron Paul and his mentality."


    Not true. This may be the Alaskans _you've_ met, but this is absolutely NOT an accurate characterization of Alaskans in general. I think this statement better describes YOU, not Alaskans. I'll take this as a reflection of the people that YOU seek out and engage.
    We've got all kinds, including this. But this is a small handful of the people. Like every other state.


    From "Government in Exile", Albion Monitor
    http://www.monitor.net:16080/monitor/9701b/militiaconvention.html

    "We believe the law comes from God and that statutes come from man," says Don Mickey..."We believe the law comes from the 1611 version of the King James Bible."

    Beliefs:
    Americans should be ruled by laws interpreted from the biblical books of Exodus, Joshua, Samuel, Acts and Corinthians, among others.
    Erich Morrow of Arkansas: "common law is scriptural law applied to society." He describes himself as "A private Christian man. I believe in being a perfect man in Christ -- a mirror for our father in heaven."
    Bob Davis, of Bay County, Michigan, mixes biblical ideas with his concern over taxes and the worth of paper currency. "The Bible calls for good solid currency -- a godly currency," he says. "Now remember, we must maintain the higher word of God and he'll walk with us. If we don't, we'll get what we have now."

    There's a lot of militarism mixed with the Christian message.
    "God bless the republic, death to the new world order, we shall prevail," Mickey says, dolefully.

    "We're preparing our hearts and minds for the third battle between Christ and the antichrist. We should begin arming people, but also arm them with knowledge." Thorsen also passes out a sheet called "I pledge allegiance to the Lamb," which is a take on the American Pledge of Allegiance "signed and sealed with the blood of the Lamb."

    From the religious-minded speakers, one is led to believe that they want nothing less than an Old Testament Christian theocracy in America. "It's God's way or the highway" bellows the leader of the Indiana 14th Regiment.


    Here's the crux of the matter:
    "The rationale is that God handed down the Bible, which was used by America's Christian founding fathers to create the Constitution, and from there, the statutes of the law."

    The bottom line - that's a personal theological belief. I don't happen to believe that. The difference between me and them? I have no problem with their personal beliefs. They DO have a problem with mine - they don't want me to think what I think. I support their "right" to think whatever they choose - they do not support MY right to the same. If they took over America, I would be forced to do it _their_ way, according to _their_ beliefs.

    Here's a very good article with thoughtful comments worth reading.
    http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/09/16/olson-michigan-militia-leader-in-90s-back-in-action-in-alaska/

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  40. Anonymous10:36 AM

    What needs to be made CLEAR is that these people ARE NOT ALASKAN. THEY DO NOT SPEAK FOR ALASKANS.

    ALL of these media representatives speaking for Alaska and claiming ownership, are CARPETBAGGERS. ALL of them are Midwestern farm boys. Johnnies-come-lately. Opportunists. Moved to Alaska and settled themselves in, encouraging their buddies and counterparts from other states to join them in Alaska.
    http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/adl/beyond-the-bombing/btb-michigan.html

    Schaeffer Cox - the son of a missionary Baptist preacher posted to Alaska from Colorado in 2000.

    Joe Miller - moved to Alaska in 1995 and owns a Kansas farm.

    Norm Olson and Ray Southwell - both from Michigan. Both "preachers", Norm has his own 501c3 non-profit tax-exempt church. No visible conventional means of making a living. But LOTSA money! Wonder where they get money...

    Coleman Barney - moved to Alaska in 1984.

    They do NOT share the values and beliefs of the ORIGINAL Alaska Independence Party. See, it wasn't originally based on faith and Christianity; it was a belief in Alaska as a commonwealth. It was genuinely political in nature, not a "Bible Believers" organization.

    “I crossed Canada with 20+ Rifles, 9 handguns, 6,000 rounds of loaded ammo, 2000 bullets, 50,000 primers, and 200 lbs of powder. You can do it if you know how, when, and where.”
    - Norm Olson, Michigan Militia/Alaska Citizens Militia

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  41. Anonymous10:45 AM

    More:

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/schaeffer_cox-linked_sovereign_citizen_gets_35_yea.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

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  42. Anonymous11:13 AM

    Former Alaskan said...
    Well, pretty much all the Alaskans I've met (when I lived there and am contacted by via mutual friends), ages 16 - 58, are anti-govt, libertarian types. They all seem to like Ron Paul and his mentality. It makes sense. Alaska isn't like the rest of the country. People dont succeed in the same way. One can be successful with no formal education and heavily calloused hands.

    It's unnecessary and dangerous to condemn Independence parties. They are not nutcases. They're people who know it's not "right" for a set of "men" in stuffy DC to dictate how we do business and thrive. It's not moral to make more successful people pay higher taxes with purposes of giving to poorer people. That ISNT MORAL NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.

    I stand with people who say no to big government. Socialism doesn't thrive singly. Anyone can be happy and successful under capitalism. Don't let sour apples and perpetually jealous haters tell you otherwise.

    The more I read of Gryphen's blog, the more I realize he doesn't know jack about the majority of his fellow residents.

    We can't live like Govt WILL ALWAYS be there. That is unhealthy.

    Let's build a healthy private sector and keep public minimal. all thats needed. As long as all bases are covered, excess in govt needs to go. Look to FL for guidance.
    6:59 AM
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    Get real, I've lived in Wasilla, of all places, for 20 years and have managed to make friends that ARE NOT crazy AIP types, but are the antithesis of "those types" of people. I guess ALL of the AIP types aren't "crazy" per se, but are definitely working without all cylinders firing and are generally in no danger of being nominated for Mensa. They mainly make mincemeat of the Constitutional concepts that they are sworn to uphold, due in part because the Constitution itself is written a couple of grade levels above their comprehension. Most of them are just fat guys in camo that would last approximately 5 minutes in a physical combat situation before they collapsed, not from a fatal gunshot wound, but from exhaustion ort coronary infarction. If I'm being too subtle I'll just come out and say it; these people are a joke to everyone but themselves! Keystone cops got nuthin' on this bunch. Get it? They are neither to be respected nor (especially) encouraged.

    If you were able to meet only "these types of people" during your tenure in AK, then you sought them out as friends, rather than avoided them as I have. Don't try to make it look like ALL Alaskans are like "these people" because this crazy AIP/Militia/Libertarian crowd are most definitely the minority up here, but are often the most vocal and outspoken, leading one to believe that there are more of them.

    I think that Gyphen has a very good grasp of Alaskan demographics, and just as I know, he knows as well that this "little nest of radicals" is indeed a small nest and a not a statewide majority.

    You seem to be proud of your friendship with outlaws in AK. I'd bet a fair sum that when you left here you relocated somewhere in the South (Florida), or perhaps in Michigan where the militias roam free. Perhaps a bunker in Montana or Idaho with the "shaven head" militia people? Regardless, this Alaskan is happy to hear that there is one less of "those people" here in our fair state. Au revoir and good riddance!

    Now if we could only get rid of snowmachines too...

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  43. Anonymous11:46 AM

    There was an interesting contemporaneous story about this email at redoutreporter

    http://redoubtreporter.wordpress.com/2010/09/08/party-time-%E2%80%94-alaskan-independence-party-stirs-up-election-season/

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  44. Anonymous12:21 PM

    i'd laugh my ass off watchin' ray and norm tryin' to run up two flights of stairs..one of 'em would probably auger in on the first landing with the other collapsing on top of his fallen 'comrade'....what a couple of douchbag asswipe_tards...LMAO !!

    oh yeah, it'd be awesome if the two of ya would gather up you and yours and get the fuk outta Alaska before ya hurt yerselves, eh ....

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  45. Anonymous6:39 PM

    I am always bemused with the rabid stupidity of these AIP people. They talk a BIG talk, spewing all sorts of loaded testosterone, but if they did get their way and Alaska broke off from the US, Putin would be on them so fast their heads would explode. Russia would dearly like to get their Alaskan territory back and then we'd hear all sorts of blather and misery about what the Russians are doing to them. Total idiots, the lot of them.
    M from MD

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  46. Shan in NC7:48 PM

    I'm sorry, but seeing these guys just made me laugh so much, lol! They just scream "I joined so I could wear a uniform". They just reminded me of that Andy Griffith episode where Ernest T. Bass wanted to join the army just so he could have a uniform to impress the mountain ladies, ha!

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  47. Anonymous3:52 PM

    Former Alaskan @6:59 AM said...
    "Well, pretty much all the Alaskans I've met (when I lived there and am contacted by via mutual friends), ages 16 - 58, are anti-govt, libertarian types. They all seem to like Ron Paul and his mentality. It makes sense. Alaska isn't like the rest of the country. People dont succeed in the same way. One can be successful with no formal education and heavily calloused hands".

    This lengthy contortion with wildly flung caps and morals, seems to be Pure Vintage Palin. And one of the clues is found in the very first sentence;

    "(when I lived there and am contacted by via mutual friends)"
    Who ls it you know that has to use the term "via" every time she rears her ratty head? Also, too, the writer uses the word, "by", right alongside "via" Brilliant!

    I enjoin all of you, any of you to read it again, (imagining the screech ricocheting around your noggin)and you'll see what I mean.

    And should I have committed a terrible error, I beg forgiveness from who ever composed this twisted litany.

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