Huntsman, who says he has been at every convention since 1984 when he was a delegate for Ronald Reagan, told The Salt Lake Tribune in a statement that he’s been asked repeatedly whether he would attend the August convention in Tampa, Fla., but noted that he is skipping it.
"I will not be attending this year’s convention, nor any Republican convention in the future," Huntsman said, "until the party focuses on a bigger, bolder, more confident future for the United States — a future based on problem solving, inclusiveness, and a willingness to address the trust deficit, which is every bit as corrosive as our fiscal and economic deficits."
"I encourage a return to the party we have been in the past," he said, "from Lincoln right on through to Reagan, that was always willing to put our country before politics."
While I completely disagree with Huntsman that Reagan "put country before politics," I do give him mad props for having the integrity to publicly state that his party has essentially lost their minds, and that nothing they are doing is to help their constituents any more.
Apparently, even though he had thrown his support to Mitt Romney after bowing out of the primary, Huntsman has been so upset with the Republican party, and by extension his fellow Mormon, that he was "uninvited" back in March from attending this year's convention for daring to suggest that it is time for the introduction of a third party in this country.
Huntsman has ALWAYS been, it seems, the one GOP presidential candidate who flatly refused to pander to the paint chip eating mouth breathers who now essentially make up the base of the Republican party. Something that I have always found admirable by the way.
Good for Huntsman...integrity & honesty!
ReplyDeleteI disagree with practically everything the man stands for, but his integrity and honesty have earned my respect. He's his own man, and that's almost unique in today's Republican party.
DeleteYou stated my opinion perfectly.
DeleteRemember back when they said this was the guy President Obama and the Dems were afraid of in the election - the only guy...?
DeleteHuntsman the hypocrite. He is the one who first called Romney the weather-vane, then he turns around and endorses him.
DeleteHuntsman has NO integrity. But he sure knows how to fool Dems.
John Huntsman was the ONLY republican candidate that, if elected, I felt would not try drag this country into a neanderthal abyss. I still was a little uncomfortable with his social conservatism but he at least seemed to be willing to compromise.
ReplyDeleteI fear strongly if Obama isn't reelected. Our only safety net if he isn't would be the lack of a 60-republican senate. God help us if that happens.
That's why EVERY democrat must get out and vote.
He's still a Mormon and he still has to follow the same bunch in Salt lake that Romney does. The difference is, Huntsman is human and Romney is not.
DeleteI would be interested to find out if Huntsman is also a Temple Mormon, the elite level of Mormonism.
DeleteTemple Mormons swear honestly in all dealings as a threshold to be able to worship in the Temple. Romney is a liar. All faiths have members who "aspire" to the ideal and fall short, but because Temple Mormons have to have recommendations and attest to their fidelity to their spouses and honesty, they should be held to a higher standard because they've jumped through additional hoops to get the privileges and rights that accrue only to members of the elite Temple.
Lying for the Lord is one of their big secrets. They can be dishonest if it is in line with what the president of the mormon church wants. Temple or not, they can lie if the ends (White House) justifies the means.
DeleteAnd work n GOTV, and bring some registered friends with you.
Delete"Although the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints promised in 1995 to stop including Holocaust victims in its ritual, the church admitted last week that Anne Frank had been “baptized” in a Mormon church in the Dominican Republic.
Delete"On Wednesday, The Boston Globe reported that Daniel Pearl, a reporter for The Wall Street Journal who was kidnapped and killed by terrorists in Pakistan in early 2002, was baptized last June in Twin Falls, Idaho; Mr. Pearl was Jewish."
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/03/us/jews-take-issue-with-posthumous-mormon-baptisms-beliefs.html
"I fear strongly if Obama isn't reelected. Our only safety net if he isn't would be the lack of a 60-republican senate. God help us if that happens.
DeleteThat's why EVERY democrat must get out and vote."
You are so right!!! I remember in the 60's the Nuc scare and the signs something like when you hear a air siren "Bend over and kiss your ass goodbye"
It was something like that (I was little kid) But I think, if Romney "somehow" gets voted in...we will be in the same situation...
"Bend down and kiss your ass goodbye"...
b/c we will be doomed.
I'm seeing local Teabagger politics ruining cities, they cut their police & fire dispatchers so another city takes over, they will have to cut their police dept, another city or the sheriffs dept will take over...Park funding, library funding, road repair... all the stuff the city needs to run is being cut by TEABAGGER politics and it is not pretty.
And we can again Thank Sarah "Fucktard" Palin for the downfall of our Kuntry. <----Teabag speak. (when we get it back to normal it will be Country) :)
Another "reasonable" conservative has backing away from his radical dominated, corporate co-opted party. It's a shame Huntsman and his ilk are too chickenshit to call out the nutbags and advocate for re-election of the President, even if they consider Obama no more than a lesser of two evils.
ReplyDeleteIt is indeed a shame.
DeleteI'd suggest a possible third party run for Huntsman, with Mayor Bloomberg as a running mate, but there's NO WAY that Provo would ever let that happen. Don't know how devout Huntsman is, but if he is an actual Mormon, who practices and everything, I doubt he'd cross Provo's Chosen One, who it should be noted, has been groomed to be the "One and Mighty" since he was a little boy.
ReplyDeleteProvo is not the capitol of Utah, that's Salt Lake City. Provo is just where BYU is located.
DeleteProvo is where the Mormon leadership is based:
Deleteeveral years later, Dushku was pleasantly surprised to read that Romney was running for Senate as a pro-choice candidate, and even thought she could lend her support to Romney and his newfound pro-woman political stance. When she visited his office, he told her that he only supported a pro-choice agenda because church elders in Provo had told him that it was the only way he'd win the seat in the liberal state.
http://jezebel.com/5851050/the-curious-case-of-mitt-romney-an-abortion-and-eliza-dushkus-mom
You are right that Mitt has been groomed for this, which, considering all his tasteless and cruel pranks, what does that say about those who mentored him and kept endorsing him?
DeleteThat doesn't explain him going for the cheap TelePrompTer joke at the President's (and his former boss's) expense. Or calling Herb Cain accusers "Bimbo's."
ReplyDeleteHe has a more hidden mean streak than Romney. I bet if you dug around as much as people have in regards to Romney, you'd find that same snarky, sly, nasty sense of humor.
DeleteThank you for remembering and restating this. We often forget important details like this because the media will not focus on them to keep them in the forefront of public discussion. Words and attitudes do indeed matter.
DeleteHe called the "Cain accusers" Bimbos??
DeleteReally? I do not remember hearing about that (shocking, msm, I know).
Well, certainly hope that his "smoking-hot daughters" (h/t Beldar)Don't suffer from any nasty men who know they "want a job, right?" and want certain, ahem, favors.
It's a sad state of affairs when 'believing in science' is an enumerated characteristic of a modern-day conservative 'moderate'. Huntsman has some redeeming qualities, no doubt - and comments about his smokin' hot daughters have no place in thoughtful political discourse - but I wouldn't trust him as commander in chief. Maybe he'll accept a re-appointment as ambassador to China during President Obama's second term.
ReplyDeleteIn other political news: I'm still expecting a big resurgence in Thad McCotter's presidential campaign. In fact, I'm wearing my fluorescent green, yellow and safety orange "THAD 2012!" t-shirt as I type this. He has a few issues to overcome (google him NOW!!) but I predict exciting times ahead for America's real-life Merkin Muffley.
Thad pulled a Palin and quit today,. Something about bad signatures on his election paperwork and a nasty sit com he wrote after he lost his presidential bid.
DeleteBeldar, just a quick note before I go:
DeleteStrange Love translates to Merkwuerdige Liebe!
ftd ;)
Regarding the China connection, Huntsman did not and does not speak Mandarin well. The Chinese press and politicians were pleased he made the effort but mocked him. We had relatives and friends living there during his tenure, and they did not take to him as much as our press seemed to think.
DeleteBeldar, I had to google Murkwurdigliebe to see what mischief you were perpetrating today. I ended up frittering away precious tens of minutes reading the entire plot and background of Dr. Strangelove. My re-education is complete. I now know the mysteries of Merkin Muffley too. Can't say it isn't educational reading your comments.
DeleteLynne, I promise you it wasn't a time fritter. Strangelove's a true classic. A masterpiece, even. All aficiandos will quote - often without provocation or request - the line "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!" As black comedy goes, it doesn't get any blacker (or funnier). Highly recommended viewing, if the opportunity arises for you.
DeleteI would respect Huntsman even more if he'd declare himself a Democrat. He really is the functional equivalent politically with President Obama. Very few of his positions are much further to the right than the president's.
ReplyDeleteIf the GOP were serious about beating Obama, they would have nominated Huntsman. However, today's GOP is insane and wants extremism, not bipartisanship.
I'll respect the members of the GOP who are even more explicit about the dysfunctional nature of the the Republican Party than Huntsman has been.
He is nothing like what you think he is. He is a nasty little shit, just like Romney. He hides it better since he isn't as entitled as Romney is. He is NOTHING close to President Obama.
DeleteI almost agree with you, but I do not trust any Republican these days - even the seemingly moderate ones.
DeleteAgreed,, 7:55.
DeleteOnce he was clearly out of the running, he had some common sense comments, but he would have said and done anything if he were frontrunner.
You mean he doesn't wear "The Magic Underware?"
ReplyDeleteYes, as a Temple Mormon he has to wear the "magic" underwear. So does his wife.
DeleteHow does one get the magic underwear? Is it given to you in a pretty wrapped box with a ribbon when you join the church? Do they just give you magic underwear laundry detergent - just add to the wash and Zing!? Or maybe like a dusting powder - just a sprinkle in your shorts and your panties will be sparkly all day?
DeleteYou can buy it online. Makes for a fantastic Halloween costume!
DeleteHoly crap - you're serious!:
Deletehttp://1857massacre.com/MMM/mormon_underwear.htm
And these a-holes dare to laugh at earlocks and tifilin? Or scapulars? Or even worse, hijabs?
HA HA HA'
DeleteThanks for the link, 11:30!
I always wondered, but seeing them actually modeled on live people,
I'll never look at Mitt and Ann the same way, not that I find them interesting, but how can anyone be taken seriously in magic undies?
Damn, I was hoping that would come in a thong, and in a bolder color.
DeleteHuntsman is only about self promotion. He does not have integrity. Basically during his campaign, he called Michelle Bachmann crazy on one day and the very next day admitted that he would accept VP position if she was the nominee. (said it on Piers Morgan show). Huntsman also undermined the work he did as ambassador when he was attacking the President. He should have completed his assignment, and waited out a campaign before entering the race.
ReplyDeleteYes, his integrity comes second to his ambition. His willingness to change his opinions according the whims of the party rule him out for my vote even in 2016.
DeleteHuntsman was the only Republican I feared could have legitimately given Obama a run for his money, and the only Republican whose election I would not have felt suicidal over...
ReplyDeleteAgreement here.
DeleteThis is the GOPOP (Grand Old Party Of Panderers).
ReplyDeleteGo figure.
Integrity, Individualism and Independence of thought processes? Impermissible!
There ya go.
fromthediagonal
Diagonal - So true, and yet I believe your acronym is slightly flawed. Remember that the GOP demographic skews to the mature end of the age spectrum. Therefore - and please correct me if Im wrong - the more accurate moniker should be
Delete"Grand Old Party of OLDER Panderers".
Small difference but not unmeaningful. I'll leave it to others to work out the revised acronym...
From Dragon to Eldar(yup, now 72, I have completed 6 chinese cycles of Dragon Years as Mr. Huntsman should be able to confirm):
DeleteI kowtow to you OLDER Panderers it is.
Of course, I am not old, dammit, I am an
Ancient Bleedin'Heart Liberal fromthediagonal
Absolutely, fromthediagonal. Totally agree. Even a "moderate" like Huntsman cannot be truly trusted.
DeleteI believe if the Presidential nominee position suddenly became open, he'd jump right back in and move right in order to get the base votes.
I think he is more honest and forthright than Romney, but really, how hard is that?
Personally, I think it shoud be MROE sdescriptive - Grand Old Party of Older, Out-of-touch Panderers.
DeleteMuch better acronym, too!
Willow and Bristol wish they were as smart and good looking like Huntsman's daughters.
ReplyDeleteDon't we all! Natural beauty!
DeleteHuntsman is not your friend just because he's the enemy or your enemy. There is little substantive difference between him and them. He's just more aware how bad the more public nutjobs make all of them look and he's all about his dignified image.
ReplyDeleteThat's one of the reasons the Chinese failed to totally embrace him as Ambassador. He is very concerned about appearances and why he tried but failed to communicate in Mandarin. He did just enough to look as if he cared, but not enough to convince most people.
DeleteGood for Jon Huntsman. I thought he was far and away the best Republican of the bunch during the primaries. It showed how nutty the GOP had become when he was ignored throughout the primary season.
ReplyDeleteIf Romney wins the WH, I'm guessing that the GOP will take over the Senate too. If that happens, we'll be in big trouble. Big trouble.
I've learned all the words to O Canada and read the real estate listings weekly :-)
DeleteApplying for a job in Denmark, thanks to Gryphen's flashmob post earlier.
DeleteI agree with Anon @ 6:52 AM. Huntsman is still a Mormon, and probably believes in that White Horse Prophecy. And "lying for the Lord". And white male dominion.
ReplyDeleteI think he'd be an admirable person if he renounced his Mormonism. Heck, as a long-ago-fallen-away Catholic, I think a lot of Catholic politicians would be more trustworthy and deserving of voter support if they renounced their Catholicism, too.
Absolutely agree.
DeleteI remember when President Obama picked Huntsman as his ambassador to China. The President figured Huntsman would be the one republican that democrats and independents might actually vote for in 2012. Turns out President Obama sent the only capable, sane republican out of the country.
ReplyDeleteHuntsman should have stayed in China. He fooled himself about the true political climate he was moving back into to run for president. When he left for a couple of years he came back to a full blown nut hatchery. Of course at the time 2009--who knew the GOP would become a party of suicidal psychopaths and think Jon Huntsman was not worthy because 1). He's sane. 2). He served his country--except Barack Obama sent him to do it.3) He actually admitted he believes in science.
Good luck to him. He's too socially conservative for me and lets face it--at this point I'd rather put out my own eyes than vote for a R----EVER. But republicans like Huntsman need to join hands and shout the nutters in their party down. It won't happen though. Not if they want political careers.
It seems Huntsman is rich enough and smart enough to step aside and wait for the tide to turn in his party.
I just gained some respect for Huntsman.
ReplyDeleteHe's still too much of a Republican for me.
ReplyDeleteagree - he changes his mind as often as Romney, no credibility in his statements at all
DeleteDitto. ANYONE with an "R" after their name is. I think Huntsman is every bit as foul as Mitt.
DeleteHuntsman would have been a more intersting and challenging contender for the Presidency he would still have lost of course just like Mittens will.
ReplyDeleteHuntsman is a flip flopper as much as Romney is – only he does it with stronger emotions
ReplyDeletequote of Huntsman’s about Michele Bachmann, in which he said, “She makes for good copy — and good photography.” Asked about it on Tuesday by Fox News, Huntsman said, "Oh, listen, I was trying to compliment Representative Bachmann. Calling somebody photogenic — I wish we were all that photogenic. She’s an elected official, she’s doing a great job, and I have high regard for her.”
Jon Huntsman is stirring the GOP's pot, telling Piers Morgan that he'd be open to running as Michele Bachmann's vice presidential candidate—or as VP to pretty much any GOP candidate, save Mitt Romney. "If you love this country, you serve her," he says in the interview set to air tonight. "If you're in a position to better the country, to bring whatever background you have to bear, whatever experiences to use in fine-tuning our future, I'll be the first person to sign up." But if Romney came calling? “There’d be too many jokes about that. No, I can’t imagine it at all.”
Republican presidential candidate Jon Huntsman characterized the allegations of an extramarital affair surrounding fellow candidate Herman Cain as a "bimbo eruption" in an interview with the Boston Herald editorial board Tuesday. "We've got real issues to talk about, not the latest bimbo eruption," said the former Utah governor
Huntsman attacks Obama as corrosive divider (youtube video)
Romney was a bad governor and a terrible businessman, is un-electable and can't be trusted, Huntsman said.
“This Nation Is Divided Because Of Attitudes Like That.” (Huntsman talking about Romney 1/8/12 debate) . Huntsman endorses Romney days later
Huntsman endorses GOP candidate Winder for County Mayor days before he makes comments that he is not participating in GOP until they return to days of Lincoln to Reagan.
Sounds like a man who makes endorsements with an expectation of a return, but turns to sour grapes when it doesn’t pan out as he expects it to.
And yet, that is when Huntsman claims he began to attend ALL of the GOP conventions, and he was a delegate for Reagan also too. So why is it now in 2012 - he is lambasting the GOP since Reagan -- when that is precisely when he has been active with their conventions?
DeleteTruth is Huntsman is really jealous of Romney, because Huntsman wanted to be the replacement for the Olympics and the LDS Church chose Romney over Huntsman. He's been bitter since.
Yeah -- you know who's in that Lincoln to Reagan range -- NIXON!!!!
DeleteHuntsman is a joke just like the rest of them. Reagan is the one who got us started on the downhill spiral.
ReplyDeleteI knew Huntsman was the one Republican that hadn't totally lost his mind.
ReplyDeleteI, too, disagree with his assessment of Ronald Reagan, however. Reagan was NOT for the country. Reagan was for the rich folks and the Party. Period.
He eliminated the Fairness Doctrine, ushering in the current period of no-holds-barred propaganda. (Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, et. al.)
He freakin' sold weapons to IRAN!
Among other mis-deeds.
All of which might be rationalized - none of which can be denied.
You're right, especially about Regan. The GOP can't possibly address the GWBush Presidency, and have collective selective amnesia when they elevate Regan to Sainthood.
DeleteSorry, that Iran Contra issue,alone, has repercussions to this day. Nancy's "just say no" and calling astrologists and psychics to feed Ronnie "advice" on policy was a heaping pile of steaming crazy.
Reagan ruined CA - I was there when he did it. I laughed when I heard he was running for President. Never in my life did I believe that SOB would be elected after the ruin he brought to our state - they still haven't recovered from it. My political innocence was forever ripped from me.
DeleteThen he got elected - twice and ruined the Country. Couldn't believe the things he got away with - Breaking the Air Controllers Union was the start, Iran/Contra, etc. He was teflon, like Palin - nothing stuck, everyone protected him, especially the media. GAG!
Gryphen, could you please do some research and post on the White Horse Prophecy?
ReplyDeleteMore people need to understand it and how it is guiding the Mormon church. I know Leah Burton has discussed it, but I believe your blog gets a wider audience - or perhaps a different one.
This topic needs to be explored and considered, particularly because Mitt Romney is the heir apparent, expected by the powers of the Mormon church to be the instrument to take control of our society and mold it to their dogma.
'ear, 'ear!
DeleteAlthough, I have to say, I think MOST Mormons don't believe it -- including the upper echelon. I could see them using that as a ploy to get a Mormon in the White House for something that's near and dear to all their hearts -- TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH!
Mitt probably believes that he will win the Presidency because he is the prophecy that will make the United States, a Mormon Nation.
DeleteSo, for the trolls who keep making stuff up about Obama being a Muslim, and he wants to take away our religion, there REALLY is someone out there who wants to do that....Mitt Romney and the LDS.
It's not easy. Speaking as former Republican, it is hard to speak out against their ideas. Most of my family and my friends are Republican. The only news station they seem to watch is Fox News. They also never bother to research those Fw,Fw,Fw emails.
ReplyDeleteI remember my mindset as a Republican. I was raised as a Republican so it was awhile before I thought to challenge it. I wouldn't look at the 'liberal' side of things, because I told they would spin the truth, and I was afraid it might confuse me.
But there were things that bothered me even back then. I didn't understand the resistance to renewable energy. I didn't like the seemingly racist quality to the party. They were more interested in companies making the highest profit possible, than they were about being responsible for the environment. The insistence that schools teach 'abstinence only' as a means for sex education. When in the history of mankind has that worked for the majority of the population?
The Bush Administration was the turning point for me. When a Republican led White House, Congress and Senate, prove that they are capable, willing and able to run the country into the ground, it is time to do some rethinking regarding your party.
Here is another Republican who has switched sides:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/reagan-appointed-judge-defends-roberts-says-gop-has-become-goofy.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
Next Chapter @ 9:08:
DeleteYou seem to have come a long way, and I salute you!
Keep goin', keep growin' and know that as you keep walkin', you shall find others along that trail who are willing to explore the possibilities of doubts, of reasonings, and of acceptance that learnings produce Change.
comin'atcha fromthediagonal
GOP=GREED OVER PRINCIPLE
ReplyDeleteMay I quote you, Anon?
DeleteCIP
I don't like or trust Huntsman any more than I do Romney. Huntsman is drinking from the same "rich-Daddy tit" that Romney is. Both are plastic nothing boys.
ReplyDeletei can never understand people who lived through the reagan years thinking he was a great president, or even a tolerable president. i worked at legal services and here are three things he did that affected me: drastically reduced funding for legal services; ceased benefits to most people on SSA disability and/or SSI and made them appeal their cessations and re-prove their disability (many mentally disabled people lived on the streets for years after that because they simply did not understand the concept of appealing); and fired air traffic controllers for standing up for their rights. i represented many of those disabled people who were cut off and i handled unemployment hearings for the fired air traffic controllers (in the state i was in, they were given benefits ultimately). my son was born in 1980 and i was so depressed when reagan was elected and with all that followed. when he was re-elected 4 years later i could not believe that the majority of the people in the country i lived in would be so stupid. and then we had his 2nd four years of pre-alzheimers when he basically had all decisions made by those around him. sorry - just had to have a little tiraade here. reagan a great president, my ass!
ReplyDeleteThanks, I needed that. Everything you said and more. The election of Ronald Reagan began this nation's descent into Hell. When it happened, I felt as if I was caught in Edvard Munch's painting "The Scream" with my hands on my head, screaming in disbelief "Can't you see what's going on here? Can't you see what is happening?"
DeleteNo. Not only could they still not see, they idolize him and all but canonize the fool.
His presidency solidified the Republican Party strategy that all they need is a figurehead to show the public and they can successfully run the government behind the scenes. They didn't need a president, they just needed someone to look like one. Reagan was an actor and he liked playing the role of president. He looked "presidential". He eventually came to believe he was a real president. Then he started to believe he was a great president. Then he became convinced he was ushering Armageddon (fact). Only his alzheimer's prevented us from certain destruction.
Sorry, I just needed to vent a bit, too.
Reagan was horrible and ushered in so many policies and programs that have been detrimental to our great nation. Republicans have stood for greed, stupidity, and downright nastiness ever since.
DeleteAnon @ 12:10
DeleteSooo, really, are we screwed?
I hope not...
Reagan was an actor who understood how to read the lines, nothing more...
BUT...
...and this is the Big One...
IF we fail to draw the obvious lessons, we
deserve no better.
In that case, I fear for our offspring...
fromthediagonal
Aaaaand the Republican Party falls even deeper into insanity
ReplyDeleteI never understood why the rethuglicans preferred Romney (no integrity)to Huntsman who seems to have a great deal of integrity. Wait...never mind. I get it. It's the integrity that's the issue for them. Maybe Huntsman could sleazy up a bit for the next election.
ReplyDeleteHuntsman who seems to have a great deal of integrity.
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WTF you talking about??
Huntsman has ZERO integrity!!!!
I am not aware of any reasonable Republicans left on the national level, and that includes Jon Huntsman. Remember, he was an enthusiastic proponent of every merciless, cruel policy put forth by Republicans in the last two years, including Paul Ryan's Medicare privatization plan and the push to repeal the Affordable Care Act.
ReplyDeletehttp://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/jon-huntsman-criticizes-president-obama-says-d-him-155727698.html
He needs to create a good party, one that actually wants to work and aid the country without making people dependent.
ReplyDeleteI agree, those dependent people who count on millionaires money to win while changing their "principles" depending on who's in the audience on any given day.
DeleteI agree with the "Ronald Regan" part, but this part shows the true content of this man's character:
ReplyDelete"I will not be attending this year’s convention, nor any Republican convention in the future," Huntsman said, "until the party focuses on a bigger, bolder, more confident future for the United States — a future based on problem solving, inclusiveness, and a willingness to address the trust deficit, which is every bit as corrosive as our fiscal and economic deficits."
This is one Republican who knows his stuff, understands governance, basic civics, and the role compromise has in forming good policy, not the rwnj's and obstructionist yahoos who've overtaken the GOP.
The irony is he was probably the only one "on the island" that shouldn't have been voted off, but ask me if I care! :o)
Obama/Biden 2012
Huntsman at least accepted science. But he has major issues in other areas: Huntsman Proposes New Taxes On Seniors And Veterans To Pay For Tax Cut For The Richest 0.1 Percent http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/31/309249/huntsman-taxes-rich/?mobile=nc
ReplyDeleteDon't fall in love with Huntsman, he's deeply into "lying for the Lord" too. The Mormons are setting himself up for 2016 or 2020. He's the fall back contender for the Mormons plan in case Romney gets soundly defeated or if he gets elected for 2 terms. He's playing the moderate now so he can get elected in the General Election after Romney. He's disclaiming the GOP party now to make a perception of reasonableness for the future. Maybe they're counting on the GOP getting rid of the TP in the near future. Propaganda about Romney and him being enemies is false. They aren't rivals, they're co-conspirators.
ReplyDeleteIf you'll remember, Romney got elected as Governor because he lied about his beliefs and appeared to be a moderate. Romney also promised to be a big supporter of gay rights. Once in office, he proved he's not. He tried the same tactics when he ran for Ted Kennedy's Senate Seat. By then, voters caught on to him & he was defeated. He's not a moderate & neither is Huntsman. They're both Royal Blood in the grand "White Horse Prophecy."
Some info about him you may not know. He's also a descendant of the same, original Joseph Smith Apostle as Willard is Parley Pratt. In fact, he's Romney's cousin. For more on how the two families are closely linked through the years, see this:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/06/mitt-romney-jon-huntsman-family-ties-/1#.T_lyopHiFN0
I noticed that about Pratt, too!
DeleteGood point about Romney lying to get elected. He said as much to Eliza Dushku's mom, a fact that pretty much has been ignored by the mainstream media, even though it's pretty scary and, imo, is about 80 times worse than the fact that Obama's pastor twice said things about how white people oppress black people. There is no evidence that Obama asks Jeremiah Wright for political advice -- actually, there's a slew of evidence that he DOESN'T. The Mormons have done everything in their power to help Romney AND Huntsman achieve business success, because that was their plan to integrate into American society, and, it should be noted, achievement of wealth and Romney's achievement of wealth is the WHOLE argument in favor of getting him elected. We're supposed to think that Romeny knows something, because he worked in private equity, but it seems, though, that Bain is puh-retty Mormon. So -- how successful was he REALLY?
(I don't buy the "George Romney pulling HIMSELF up by the bootstraps" story. I'm SURE there was a network of Mormons ready to help him when his family came here from Mexico. It was in their best interest to help the Mexico escapees return to the US.)
I think it's disturbing that so many progressives are tricked into thinking that Hunstman is the Answer. He has the EXACT SAME ideas as Bush when it comes to taxes. Basically, this guy who inherited a billion dollars wants to pay LESS in taxes than YOU DO...because...he's a JOB CREATOR... Yeah, sure, as opposed to the army of teachers whose salaries equal what he makes a year!
A big AMEN & thank you. Great minds!
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