Sunday, December 23, 2012

NRA Vice President Wayne LaPierre literally froths at the mouth while raging against the possiblity of more gun control.

Wayne LaPierre frothing at the mouth during argument over gun control.
I just finished watching LaPierre's performance on MTP and it was just as insane as that little speech he gave on Friday.

Essentially LaPierre REFUSED to even consider the idea of restricting guns in any way, and kept pimping the idea of putting a police officer in EVERY SINGLE school in America. And as he kept hammering home his point the froth on his mouth just grew and grew until I really began to believe David Gregory was in danger of being bitten.

Here is the clip so you can see for yourself that I am not exaggerating:

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  1. Anonymous8:11 AM

    G you should post that Archie Bunker clip right next to PepeLaPu's rant! Just for fuck's sake, ya know... :)

    1. Anonymous8:39 AM

      An opportunity to get some of the hate for French people off your chest?

    2. SALLY in MI9:13 AM

      The French people are fine..LaPierre is like a rabid dog, which is what he looked and sounded like today.

    3. Anonymous10:24 AM

      F-Off TROLL is that all you got? Yea, because every RATIONAL person knows that making our public schools some kind of prison lock down scenario is living the American Dream. AND who's going to pay for all of this? HMMM? The party of LESS government ONCE AGAIN shows how dumbass backward they are by trying to ENFORCE their idea of FREEDOM on everyone else. Go home and guard your religion, your guns, your pro-life, your home school etc, etc. and leave the rest of us...Real Americans...who are tolerant, sane, secular, progressive and PATRIOTIC alone!

    4. Anonymous11:45 AM

      You'll pay for the armed guards because that's the only way to keep your children safe. It's the only way because none of you want to come to terms with the real problem. The problem that is manifested in Americans who 'want' that kind of gun. You can just call it a short term solution while you all pretend that you're looking for a longer term solution. And the LaPierre creep will be right in the end.
      ~the troll

    5. "The real problem". Enlighten us as to what you think that is. Don't hide your supercilious opinion behind a guessing game.

      I'll tell you what I think the problem is. Too much right wing propaganda, prompted by the domestic branch of the profitable military/industrial complex, with a fair amount of sociopathy. That's what I think is at the basis of the typical libertarians' and survivalists' POV.

      Capitalism gone rancid and rotten, as has been obvious on Wall Street.

      What Wayne LaPierre and you are suggesting is pandering to that industry, and to the paranoia of a police state. Banning assault weapons is a first step to reducing the need to protect innocents from long range killing machines, and if you think they're needed in case our government gets all totalitarian, there's always grenades and Molotov cocktails.

  2. Anonymous8:24 AM

    Wayne is now founding the NGA ... "National Grenade Association"

    Since guns to hard to operate, he wants all K to 8th graders to carry live "hand grenades".

    Hand grenades for all students, movie goers, mall shoppers and flyers will make everyone safer.

    Be the first on your block to stock up on grenades .. and thank Wayne for making everyone safer.

    The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun .. is a live grenade.

    1. SALLY in MI9:15 AM

      Wow..grenade makers are celebrarting about we just put them in the school grounds, and if we lose a few kids during recess, well, it was just to keep the rest safe. And just when you thought the right wing could not be more insane (and these are the people who are armed?)

    2. Anonymous11:04 AM

      Wouldn't it be cheaper in the long run (heh heh)to plant land mines around the perimeters of the playground? We don't want to have to pay some Union Thugs to be packin' heat--with benefits, do we?

    3. Anonymous11:30 AM

      Not following recess rules =BOOM!

  3. Anonymous8:45 AM

    Oh wow, this is a Palin-level Event: batshit crazy and off this world. He would have been a real good vice-president, you know after McCain died.

    What is the Palin going to say about this? It must be good, a christmas dinner laugh surely. Something like 'A handy gun always took care of my needs, even when Todd was away killing fish.' Any suggestions?

  4. Anonymous9:15 AM

    OT Mitt's son say he never wanted to be president - not surprised, I always sensed he was just going through the motions

    1. Anonymous10:17 AM

      Yea he didn't want the job when he realized he wasn't the boss and he would have to compromise with people.

    2. Anonymous10:29 AM

      So what was it then? A popularity contest aka Queen Esther? Yet another test of black vs. white? Entitlement as the "good" Mormon?

      How old IS he? "So I lost, I didn't want it anyway." Riiiiight.....

    3. Anonymous11:07 AM

      Tagg says... I feel soooo bad about how all this turned out, and even worse about all the money my friends and I looted from this clusterf*ck of a campaign. We are giving refunds to any campaign donor that feels they didn't get their money's worth out of the American Rambler division of Mitt Rmoney INC.

      Read all about American Rambler here. It's not satire, but it's ONION worthy.

  5. Anonymous9:47 AM

    It is absolute, undeniable fact that the founders saw the Second Amendment as the last line of defense against tyranny. The gun nuts today currently see it the same way. The NRA has turned Uncle Sam into a door-kicking-in-monster who will yank their blankets off their trembling bodies.

    The frightened pussies ignore the fact guns have gotten so much more powerful over the last couple hundred years that the only reasonable way to reduce mass bloodshed in shootings like Sandy Hook is to ban assault weapons.

    The funny thing is I can blind a concealed weapon carrier with a pencil within earshot of my voice, actually tell him Iḿ going to do it beforehand, before he can even unholster his weapon.

    They can´t carry their concealed guns and automatic rifles with them everywhere, but I can carry a pencil with me anywhere.

    How is effective is that assault weapon now?

    Oh, yeah, I forgot. It´s for their homes. They have turned their homes into bunkers because they are afraid of boogeymen.

    BTW, I own several shotguns.

    For hunting fowl.

    1. Anonymous11:47 AM

      Have you ever actually TAKEN someones life, yea I did not think so, unfortunately some of us have been put in that dilemma,shoot or let the bad guy kill me. I am thankful I did not have a pencil!

  6. Anonymous9:48 AM

    Maybe we could just set up classrooms in high security prisons, they already have the cops with machine guns, electroic locking gates... think how safe the children would be. And, we could eliminate the need and cost of more schools... crazy? Ya think?

    1. Anonymous11:18 AM

      I think we should set up volunteers from the neighborhood. There are many young gun enthusiasts/patriots/heros out there--maybe your neighbor's son--who would be willing to serve. STAND YOUR GROUND. Sincerely, George Z.

    2. Anonymous2:22 PM

      Have you thought that through? an armed volunteer militia at every school? kind of like George Zimmerman, down there in Florida?

      What could possibly go wrong, there?

    3. Anonymous5:39 PM

      I was kidding...via crazy retoric... on putting kids in prisons. The other is another fucknut looney. UGH

    4. Anonymous5:40 PM

      Imagine the "volunteers" with guns, or even the retired veterand with PTSD and a bone to pick.... if you were planning a mass kill where better than to apply at a school? You have the keys n the bullets, the blueprints n the radio n the badge? ..................

  7. Anonymous9:53 AM

    The man is determined; he won't listen to reason.

    Yes, maybe today an armed guard should be posted at every school, but that is only one small solution. The real solution is to ban automatic weapons with cartridges. At the very least, that would prevent mass casualties.

    And the fake phony sympathy he displays about 'the children' and 'tears running down our cheeks' statements is disgusting. It's so obvious he's got ulterior motives and it's not to protect 'the children'.

    1. Leland2:28 PM

      The man is NOT determined. He is a FANATIC. And as I have said repeatedly here, fanaticism for ANY reason is dangerous!

      I am one of those gun owners who a.) have never owned, nor desired, an assault weapon; b.) believe assault weapons need to be permanently banned; c.) believe we should start slamming those republicans currently in office who were in office in 2004 when they deliberately allowed the assault weapon ban to lapse; and d.) GET THAT FUCKER GROVER NORQUIST OUT OF THE UNITED STATES!

      Who the HELL ever elected him to Congress? How the hell did he ever get so damned much "power"? And can we have his college or university rescind his degree?


    2. Anonymous6:00 PM

      Is everyone aware that the firt George Bush pulled his membership from the NRA years ago due to a letter this asshole wrote back then...comparing police, etc. in the U.S. to Nazis?

      IM published the letter that George Bush sent to the NRA. We really have fucked up people leading the NRA and have for years - this guy being one of the worst!

  8. Anonymous10:06 AM

    How many of these mass killers survive the event? Not very many. And why is that? I would guess it's because they are suicidal or have at least made up their minds they are going to die. Many of them kill themselves before they can be captured.

    As has been proven with suicide bombers, if someone is at a state of mind where they are willing to die to inflict damage, it's very hard to stop them. As sad as it sounds, the only way to prevent them from carrying out their mad acts is first being able to recognize them for what they are, and taking them out. And I'm not talking at the scene, but before they can hatch their plan. But that is not 100% effective, so then you need to take preventative measures. In this case, schools, there are several precautions that could be taken besides armed guards. Metal detectors are one. Fortified doors to classrooms and the main school doors that can be remotely locked or locked by a teacher with a switch are another.

    Magically wishing the government is going to somehow protect you by disarming responsible citizens and only arming the police or armed forces is hooey. It will only force mad men to change their tactics. Look at how well our army did preventing suicide bombers in Iraq. The only thing that slowed them down was taking them out before they reached their target. And you still read of bombings to this day.

    1. Anonymous10:34 AM

      "Magically wishing the government is going to somehow protect you by disarming responsible citizens"
      This is nonsense and you know it. "Responsible citizens" are already restricted in the weapons they can possess. It is not legal to own privately things like tactical nuclear weapons, etc. "Responsible citizens" are perfectly aware that the weapons they can own are controlled by law.

      We HAVE gun control in the USA. It IS constitutional. Get over thinking you have unlimited gun rights. You do NOT.

      If the congress of the United States passes a bill and the president signs it and the Supreme court upholds it, you WILL have a new restriction on the type of weapon you can privately own.

      If you think you can not live without high-capacity magazines and assault weapons, you need to figure out what is wrong with your head, because most of us do just fine without them. And we all did just fine when there was a law about assault weapons. That law expired. There is no reason it cannot be re-enacted.

      And, yes, I have owned guns, hunted and done target shooting. I trained to handle the weapons I owned. I can comprehend wanting to own a gun. But to demand an assault weapon for no reason other than, "I want it, I want it" is just the childish outburst of a two-year-old.

  9. Anonymous10:32 AM

    Wow. Where to begin. I'm not sure I can touch that LaPierre logic. Let me see...

    Mental health services- yeah Wayne, it's a big problem. Saint Ronnie Reagan eliminated all that during his reign. Republicans didn't want to spend the money - you know, treating the mentally ill falls under the category of unnecessary, entitlement programs.

    Armed guards at every school - oh yeah. By all means, inculcate that fear and paranoia right from the start beginning with impressionable 5 year olds. Seeing guns and armed guards at school does not reassure children, it scares them. Guns in school may make NRA minded adults feel safer, but it makes children feel more afraid.

    And who will pay for this? Republicans don't want to pay for the police, fire-fighters and other first responders that we already have, I don't think they are going to want to pay for more. What's that you say? 2 billion dollars training Iraqis? Well, you've got a point there. If we weren't paying for 2 Bush Wars, we would certainly have more money to help address domestic problems. But that's WAR money, Buddy, and the only way you will get that from Republicans is to pry it from their cold, dead hands.

    I think you are on to something though with your refusal to consider changing any legislation concerning gun control. As you have pointed out, the answer to this problem is not fewer guns, it's MORE guns. To keep people safe. Once our schools are safe with armed guards, we can start making our malls safe with armed guards, too. And Post offices and movie theaters will need to be made safe, too. Soon, we will be the embodiment of American freedom with armed guards everywhere protecting us. (With the exception of abortion clinics where you still stand a good chance of getting shot.)

    Of course there was that shooting on that Army base not too long ago...he opened fire in a place just full of people with guns and it didn't stop I guess there are still a few bugs that need to be worked out of the Master Plan, but otherwise, WELL DONE, SIR!

  10. Thank you, 10:32. This was so well-said.

    I had to laugh at "inculcate'' though, as I feel quite confident LaPierre doesn't know what that means. As for the typical NRA member, s/he probably thinks inculcate is Communist.

    It is sad for me, in my 65th year, to see this Cold War mentality alive and well: the only way to stop Them from killing Us is to have so many weapons that We can kill Them first and kill them many times over.

  11. Anonymous11:50 AM

    The NUT seems to be soaked in botox!

  12. Anonymous12:03 PM

    I can't imagine living in an armed society. I can't imagine living next door/either side to armed volatile crazy people. Don't you ever wonder what the rest of the world thinks about you? If you were one person, we would think you are suicidal.

  13. Anonymous2:18 PM

    A commenter at the NYT article on the Friday appearance of Mr. LaPierre:

    Anne Frank's last words were "and yet, I cling to [my ideals] because I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart." The mantra I'm hearing from gun advocates is "and yet, I cling to my guns because I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly evil at heart." Oh, the progress we have made.

    And for God's sake, can we stop talking about gun "rights?" Whereas everywhere else in the world, it's gun "ownership," "possession," etc., here we equate owning a gun with having the "right" to vote or be treated equally. For those who would cite the second amendment, please, oh please, read it again. "A Well Regulated Militia, being necessary to the Security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    This became null and void with the establishment of a national army in the 20th century, whose sole purpose was to ensure the security of a free state. We have nothing remotely similar to 18th century militias. Therefore, let's stop talking about gun rights. Let's reframe this debate.

    We shall overcome, we shall live in peace ... some day."

    Watching Mr LaPierre's conversation with David Gregory today was so disturbing. He clearly is a frightened man; how many times did he use the term, 'monster', 'these monsters'. He is afraid of the changes that are happening in our country and our culture; inevitable, historical changes. He and his ilk are SO afraid, they want us to justify their fears and turn our whole society into armed camps.

    They and their spokespersons (O'Riley, Hannity, Palin et al) continue to berate our President as 'a divider, a class warrior, etc'

    They do not see themselves as others see them. In the same way the Romney camp is revealed in today's article to have been mystified at there loss. To paraphrase one quote: 'Now we know what the Obama campaign was doing in Ohio. We watched them and we couldn't figure out what they were doing.'

    This is so perplexing. Again, I return to the studies published a few years back: the brains of liberals and the brains of conservatives are PHYSIOLOGICALLY different. How are we to overcome this divide and find a way to communicate; when literally we do not see the world in the same way.

    And another thing: when in the discourse did the 2nd Amendment Rights acquire the added descriptive: God-given? was that a policy decision of the NRA?

    Peace and Love to all.
    Thanks to Gryphen for providing this forum


    1. Anonymous5:55 PM

      I see this NRA guy being the likes of Hitler. He needs to be overthrown from his NRA ranks now!

    2. Anonymous9:52 PM

      I went and looked it up. It was Newt Gingrich, in this speech given to the NRA when he was in the running for the Republican nomination, who so cleverly and disingenuously made the point. He does it beautifully and in less than the first 5 mins of his presentation:

      It is a masterpiece of propaganda...


  14. Anonymous3:30 PM

    Right wing gun nuts are trying to get Piers Morgan deported because he is anti-gun

  15. Anonymous6:38 PM

    Reading these posts it becomes clear as ma book title claims "Liberalism IS a Mental Disorder"
    Maybe you need to check the facts, all if the mass killings occur in a "GUN FREE ZONE".
    Make the community gun free and the killing may take place in the house next to yours.
    Where is the outrage against Judges that let these scum bags out of prison for a host of reasons?
    Do you know, or do you care how many are let out only to take up where they left off in their life of crime?
    Have you listened to RAP songs lately? What beautiful lyrics, oh wait, I've got that wrong, it's about violence and disrespect.
    How about movies and their family friendly content.
    If you have the time, and the intelligence to check out crime statistics in New York, Detroit, Washington D.C. and Chicago, then compare that data with cities like Cheyenne, Helena and Billings.
    The former have strict Gun Control, the others have not.
    The bottom line is that GUNS are NOT the problem.
    Behavior is. While it's sad to see these little children cut down, did you ever feel that way over the millions of children that are removed from their mother at Planned Parenthood?

    This Country has so much ROT and Decay from Liberals/Progressives. This includes the Liar-In-Chief at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

    1. ibwilliamsi6:58 PM

      Your mom says it's time to go to bed now. You're acting cranky.

    2. Anonymous7:41 PM

      A private citizen can not possess tactical nuclear weapons in the USA. The government does not allow it. The "arms" permitted by the second amendment are limited by law. Which weapons are not allowed is determined by legislators, approved by the president and upheld by the Supreme Court.

      whether YOU like it or not.

    3. Leland3:30 AM

      "This country has so much rot...."

      You can always LEAVE! Don't let the door hit your ass on the way!

  16. Anonymous7:20 PM

    oh lord, when will this bs end.............
    let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me
    let this be the moment now
    Merry Christmas to one and all from Wisconsin

  17. Anonymous7:25 PM

    "The bottom line is that GUNS are NOT the problem.
    Behavior is."
    You are wrong. Assault weapons' capacity to kill many people in a short period of time is a PROBLEM. There was a law to ban assault weapons. It expired. The law was constitutional. There is no reason not to re-enact it.

    There is no connection between assault weapons and the Roe VS Wade Supreme Court decision. Nada. None. Zip.

    Eliminating GUN FREE ZONEs does NOT insure that a mass killer will be confronted by a person trained to handle a gun in a stress situation. Joe the Plumber that spends a few hours a month at the gun range is NOT equipped to handle that kind of situation. That is why police and soldiers are subjected to extensive training in all kinds of situations.

    While Joe the Plumber is jiggling around trying to get his concealed gun out and ready to fire, Matt the Mass Killer has fired off another 200-300 rounds.

  18. Anita Winecooler9:16 PM

    "Call me Crazy" Ok, Mr La Pee Air - you're fucking nuts! BUT you're one hell of a marketer for the gun manufacturers! The crazies are afraid that "The libruls/the black muslim in the white house- iz gonna take away my gunz!!!

    Here's your WORST nightmare!

    I joined, and hope others consider joining as well. (and btw, men are mom's too!)


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