I once had a one time fling with a woman wearing paint overalls. So what does that tell you?
Tuesday, August 13, 2013
Are there really people who think this way?
I once had a one time fling with a woman wearing paint overalls. So what does that tell you?
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Gryph,
ReplyDeleteTells me that we women are just as different as you men and maybe even more exciting.
This reminds me of a posting you made earlier this year, Jesse, in which a woman was topless (albeit "covered" by black x's on her nipples) and carrying a sign that said:
ReplyDeleteSTILL NOT ASKING FOR IT!
The people who scream the loudest about things like your picture are the ones most likely to BE what they are calling others. At least, in MY experience that's true.
There usually is a bit of jealousy involved as well. They don't (and probably never have) look (or looked) good enough to wear things like shorts or short dresses or "skimpy" bathing suits and they complain about it by yelling about a person's morals.
Disgusting? Uh huh. The only thing I have found disgusting is the actions of those doing the screaming.
What was that old saying? Something to do with judging and book covers?
Or the other one? About pots and kettles?
"There usually is a bit of jealousy involved as well. They don't (and probably never have) look (or looked) good enough to wear things like shorts or short dresses or "skimpy" bathing suits and they complain about it by yelling about a person's morals."
DeleteThat's not true at all. It's also sexist. And stupid. Decades of consciousness raising and men still think that women who don't flaunt themselves are just jealous of women who do. If we all had great bodies we would all be out there flaunting them. Oh, get out of high school and enter adulthood, would you? We are not "jealous".
If a woman wants to dress in a way that allows her to feel good about herself and the way she looks, she should be allowed that. You are the one who reads "provocative" into the equation. And the equally offensive conclusion that a modest dresser just doesn't have a body good enough to show off. You can't wrap your head around the idea that a woman dresses for herself - she would have to be jealous of other women. Or trying to get the approval of a man like you.
The point of a bare-breasted woman saying "still not asking for it" is to try to get across the idea that no matter how "provocative" a man may view a woman does not give him the right to violate her. It is the man's problem, not hers. The message obviously went over your head because all you seem to have focused on is the bare breasts.
@8:10
DeleteBelieve what you will.
If you choose to live without recognizing FACT, that's fine.
Did you actually READ the writings on the leg? One of the lines written (near the top) said "Asking for it". It is to THAT line my first paragraph was aimed at.
And I said "a BIT". Or don't you understand levels of intensities?
And it IS true. A BIT of jealousy. There will ALWAYS be people who are jealous of others and if you try to deny that, I will laugh a very long time and thank you for a good belly laugh.
Hyper-sensitive people are also part of the problem. Had you simply asked for an explanation of what I meant, you would have gotten a very polite answer telling you exactly what you practically screamed at me.
If you care to try it, go back in time on this blog and find that posting I mentioned. Then look for my comment. I would hope you would have the courtesy to blush.
Calm down and ASK before jumping. You might live longer by creating lower levels of hypertension.
No.
DeleteIn the first place, I don't care for any more explanation - you made yourself clear in your first post. There is no misunderstanding. And in the second place, if I had asked for an explanation I would have received one of your sanctimonious, platitudinous responses couched in patronizing rhetoric. Not interested.
It's not as though I'm new here. I've read your pearls of wisdom before - full of certitude and self-rightousness. I've never resonded before because I usually ignore you. Guess I just didn't feel like being patient with it all today.
Thanks for your advice concerning my longevity. Here's some advice for you: you could get a truer perspective of reality if you got off your high horse.
Sounds a little like a misandrist speaking.
DeleteDo you also get angry at someone who holds a door for you?
"Sounds a little like a misandrist speaking."
DeleteAnd jealous. You forgot jealous. Ya got me, Leland. Yep, I'm a jealous misandrist. I mean, what other reason could there possibly be for me to want women to be treated more equitably? I'm sure you can't imagine. Boy, no one gets anything past you. But I guess it's a step up from the 70's when we were all just lesbians. Jealous lesbians. You remember the 70's, Leland. I mean, what other explanation could there be?
Wanna know what I think you sound like? Well, I'll tell you anyway. You sound like a man who has never had any real luck with women and over the years has realized the closest he will get to women is to patronize them. I doubt any actual enlightenment has ever occurred. You just learned some new words and sound more politically correct now.
"Do you also get angry at someone who holds a door for you?"
Still living in the 70's, aren't you? Why do you think I would be angry if someone held the door for me? Oh, that's right - because you are still living in that 70's perception - unable to make the distinction between equal rights and common courtesy.
Gee, you sound angry. You really should create lower levels of hypertension - you might live longer.
DeleteWell, based on Palin's attire, she and her horny old men buy into this...think about it. When she was at CPAC or some other big GOP white males gig, then she wore the short skirts, or sat with her legs crossed and the skirt hiked up. When she was endorsing a female candidate with her presence, she wore cropped pants. Always hooker shoes.
ReplyDeleteI just got the new vanity Fair, which is the Best Dressed edition. No hooker shoes to be seen. No gladiator pumps. Just closed toe pumps, stylish shoes, and skirts not too short or tight. The Palins need help.
The first thing I thought of, since this blog is frequently Palin-centric in a critical or humorous way, is where Willow Palin's Daisy Duke shorts were on the leg scale, and where Sarah Palin's usual skirt lengths post-2008 election have been.
DeleteFor Willow, above "asking for it" and close to "slut" level. For her matronly near-50-year-old mother, "flirty" (although seriously, I'd call it what Dave Letterman did a few years ago).
Yes. They do. Didn't you post a video once of these Mormon men walking around an accosting women in business casual dress - saying they were dressed scandalously?
ReplyDeleteHave they SEEN Sarah in her short skirts and fuck-me pumps?
I think that a lot of women wear skirts that are too short. But my complaint is really that their legs don't look good or look simply too old for the increased exposure. I also don't like the ridiculous heels that many women wear thinking that it flatters them when it only makes them look silly and walk as if they're feet were bound. Is that the purpose of the design? I also think that when women wear expensive dresses and expensive shoes they should wear hose on their legs. They certainly spend enough time and money on their hair, make up and Spanx to pull it all in. The thought of bare feet squeezed into $600. shoes to go with bodies crammed into $1500. dresses seems absurd to me. It also looks just plain tacky.
ReplyDeleteBeaglemom
I just showed this photo to my own almost-19 year old; she looked at the photo, laughed out loud and said "YUP!"
ReplyDeleteWOMEN judge other WOMEN in that way.
This - coming from a young woman (my own daughter) who is VERY tolerant on most matters. Just sayin'... no, its not right, fair, etc. and so on, but it is what it is.
Thanks KAO!
DeleteThis is a mindset that has been pervasive. It speaks to the inability (and unwillingness) of religious men to exercise self control. What they are basically saying is that they are animals who can't control themselves when they see a bit of skin. Instead of addressing the problem with the men, they make the women feel as if it is their fault. Along with a side helping of making woman feel that they must look like a fashion model, but behave like a nun, creating confused woman who attack each other instead of celebrating their healthy bodies and being accorded respect.
ReplyDeleteAgree, and I think that's the point my daughter was trying to make: dress like a _______, and you'll be judged as a _______ by segments of society.
DeleteShe doesn't let it stop her from wearing skimpy skirts, but knows that to some its like she's "asking for it". No - she's being stylish for her age and body type. So, she's very aware, but prepared - like the woman with the X's over her nipples - she is also "sending a message".
To my daughter, a low-cut scoop or v-neck exposing miles of cleavage is "asking for it" - so she is "modest" in that regard. Confusion indeed!
It isn't just religious men. Religious women say and think things like that as well. (Although usually not for the same reasons as men.) And it isn't limited to religious people, either.
DeleteThe above picture only demonstrates how far people in general have to go to improve inter-personal actions and opinions of others.
If I display a work of art on my wall and invite you to look at it and admire it, I am not asking you to take it. If I dress in a way that makes me attractive, I invite you to look and admire, but not to touch and take.
ReplyDelete~Pogo
Exactly.
DeleteI don't understand it, but women can be their own worst enemy.
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