"Okay so this time I'm bad cop and you're good cop. Deal." |
The fact is Obama seemed headed for an attack on Syria that no one wanted and few thought would succeed. Most thought it would only end in disaster, either with the U.S. drawn into an attack/retaliation cycle of escalation that could go on for years and spread into a regional war, or result in the overthrow of President Assad by an Al Qaeda affiliated rebels.
While the Russians may have toyed with the idea of letting American get bogged down in yet another losing Middle East war, they didn’t want to risk a war that might pull them in, or lose control of the Assad government to radical Sunni jihadists.
So Putin stepped in and threw Obama a lifeline.
For a few hours it seemed Obama might not grab at it.
But he has, and will no doubt claim full credit for it being his idea all along.
The Washington press corps will no doubt believe him, as usual, and lavish their usual praise.
But the world knows that Vladimir Putin is the one who really deserves that Nobel Peace Prize.
It turns out that leading from behind left a big opening up front. Putin stepped right in. And Obama still hasn't figured it out.
Okay the "fact" is that anybody who believes that is is REALLY how things went down is a retard. Or a Fox News pundit. Assuming there is a difference.
Here is how the Daily Banter summed up the attempts to give ANYBODY but the President credit for this Syria/Russia solution:
Of course the truth about how the Obama administration’s national security team has handled the Syrian chemical weapons crisis was almost entirely obscured in the press when it was reported that Russian president Vladimir Putin, via his foreign minister Sergey Larov, had, at least on paper, convinced Bashar al-Assad to permit the dismantling and seizing of his military’s chemical weapons arsenal. In keeping with nearly every accomplishment of this president, whether center-right or center-left, liberal or conservative, the news was treated as somehow a loss for the administration — that Pooty-Poot had reared his head into the airspace over Syria and fulfilled the conservative fantasy of Putin The Peacemaker, not to mention Putin The Obama Disser.
This scenario entirely overlooked two things: 1) the Friday G20 meeting between Putin and the president, and 2) Secretary Kerry’s remarks on Sunday, which offered Syria a way out.
Naturally any enemy, much less one with a gun to its head, isn’t going to directly accept the demands of an aggressor while under duress. The enemy, of course, wants to be able to save face. So it’s entirely likely that Putin served as a facilitator, knowing that he and his mighty pectorals would carry some heft with the Syrian government without any direct linkage to the U.S.
Here was Forbes take on what actually took place behind the scenes:
And if you think that it was only a “discussion” President Barack Obama had with Russian President Vladimir Putin on September 6, you’ve missed one of the greatest “stealth negotiations” ever conducted.
You know it no longer seems that the President is playing chess while everybody else plays checkers. It now seems like he is playing chess while everybody else adds to their booger collection.
By the way Fox News is also the "news" outlet that recently suggested that the war in Syria might be the fulfillment of Biblical prophesy.
Yeah, I am certainly going to accept THEIR interpretation of what is happening over everybody else's.
Idiots!
Update: I think it is appropriate to provide this link to Putin's New York Times op-ed.
Let's see Fox News talk about giving him the Nobel Peace Prize now!
Putin couldn't sell me a used car. Citing the f'ing pope in a foreign policy screed, that's a sure way to destroy credibility.
ReplyDeleteFrom Putin's little attempt at being the wise uncle scolding the youngsters into line, you'd never know he supplied the chemical weapons.
All options in Syria are bad. We can attempt to empower Islamist extremists in the form of the rebels, we can watch Assad destroy Syria, we can wait for the Israelis to force our hand, we can non-prick the hell out of some hapless civilians, we can watch the UN disintegrate like the League of Nations, we can wait for the Saudis to force our hand, we can stir up some fear of North Korea and ignore Syria, we can...
No good options.
Putin supplies the chemical weapons,.... along with the Great Britain, who at least on two occasions, the last in 2010, sold Syria the constituents to create chemical weapons.
DeleteActually, John Kerry gets the credit for this one. It was entirely his idea. Of course, he said it as a condescending sarcastic slam because he didn't for a second think it was even possible, but still...
ReplyDeleteHow do we know Kerry "didn't for a second think it was even possible"? He seemed to offer that answer and the details awfully quickly.
DeleteAnd how do we know it IS possible?
So far, we know nothing about what John Kerry was thinking and nothing about what will actually happen.
"a war nobody wanted"?? Little Johnny McCain has been on every Sunday TV show, beating the war drums. He even took his girlfriend, Miss Lyndsey, to Syria, having photos taken with who he said weere the good guys. Since he can tell who the good guys are, he had one rebel included in the photo!!! No matter what the Pressident does, he is wrong, in their book.
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DeleteFYI: The Obama administration has been trying to convince Russia to get Syria to give up their chemical weapons for over year. Russia also confirmed that Vladmir Putin discussed this again at the G-20 Summit, recently.
After over a year of trying to convince Russia to agree to get Syria to give up their chemical weapons, Russia finally agrees---after President Obama threatens to attack Syria. President Obama's threat is what got Russia, and Syria to the negotiating table.
Sorry, but President Obama gets the credit for this.
10:12 AM
DeleteBite your tongue!
Benghazi! Ben Gazi! Ben Gazeeee!
I can't wait for Sarah Palin's Facebook post praising Putin and talking about how she always waved at him from her back yard.
ReplyDeleteMaybe she will have the photos of him barechested on a horse, and put her SarahPac logo on it. I have a feeling Toad would LOVE that!!
DeleteTwo very intelligent men (a thug and a professor) had a private meeting. I’m feeling better about things, but Assad is still a pathological liar, and many of the rebels are religious zealots. Russian won’t give up that warm water port it has in Syria, and it doesn’t want well-trained zealots drifting back into Russia once this crisis is over. We’ll see what happens; this one is impossible to call. I’m glad I live here, putting up with the occasional jingoist.
ReplyDeleteWhat Would Sarah Say? She saw it all from her house, rearin' it's ugly head don'tcha know!
ReplyDeleteIf there is a peep out of her the whole world will be laughing at her again.
DeleteCome on, Madame Peesident, we could use a laugh.
6:43 Who cares what Sarah Palin thinks about this subject that she knows zero about? Ridiculous question!
Delete$carah knows as much about foreign policy (and everything else) as Kim Kardasian does. Both are fast becoming obsolete. Not soon enough for me.
Delete$1000 bucks Kim knows far more than Sarah about most topics! Don't undercut the Kardasian gals and their neat Momma!
DeleteSarah and her tribe would flunk big time if put up against them. Plus, they have waaaay more more than does the Palin klan! And, they assuredly are NOT racists!
New reality show: Palins vs. Kardashians.
DeleteMama K (who is a nighmare) might be the only person willing to tell Sarah Palin off right to her face.
10:36 am
DeleteYou're not going to have any takers for that $1K bet, nor even $3.50 (tree-fitty), because the only ones stupid enough to accept your bet are dead broke from giving their last cookie jar rent money to Sarah PAC, because she's so busy saving the country that she doesn't have time for a paying job. Oh, and all of her family are also soooo busy helping Sarah as consultants that they can't work at real jobs either. So Sarah feeds em s'mores and Taco Bell to help em out in a nutritional way. She's such a great mom when she's home sometimes.
No matter what this President accomplishes, Fox News will give the credit to anyone else, even the shifty-eyed Russian ex-KGB leader. If President Obama fails in some manner, Fox News turns it into an international/galactic crisis.
ReplyDeletePatriotic duty and respect for the President is non-existent with Fox News now, And it just so happens that this President is part African-American. Coincidence?
It's so obvious that this President will never do anything right in their eyes. They would rather put the whole nation at risk than support him. They would rather diss him in front of the world and make a mockery of the 'exceptionalism' that they brag so much about. They accuse this President of leading from behind and being wimpy and they accuse him of hurting America's tough reputation; yet, they are the ones who are hurting America's reputation, by mocking their Commander-in-Chief in FRONT OF THE WORLD. How do they think that the military men and women will feel if they have to ever be sent to help in a war conflict, and have media back home relentlessly criticize and accuse their Commander-in-Chief of being untrustworthy here at home?????
Fox News has to be the most unpatriotic tool the U.S. has ever had to put up with.
My niece in the UK is appalled at Fox news. Her daughter subscribes to a package that includes Faux. Jean is disgusted with what she sees, she is shocked at the disrespect for our President.
DeleteI have a friend whose brother is still in Israel (Palestine). He travels throughout the Middle East in the oil business. We talked about this and his brother's take on this is negotiations have been going on for more than a year to disarm Syria's WMD's. Assad merely speeded up the urgency by using them. And I concur, the meetings between Obama and Putin were key to this happening and in fact their "conflict" was largely orchestrated to keep Assad in the dark. I actually love the fact the commie hating right wing is now forced to embrace either Putin or the black guy. Just goes to show you how deep the racism is on the right they love on an ex KGB commie than our own President.
ReplyDeleteExcellent analysis of the situation.
DeleteAfter the op-ed that Putin wrote in the NYT, I wonder how Fox and all the other assholes who think Putin should get a peace prize feel now. Never underestimate the actions of the KGB.
ReplyDeleteAssad doesn't need chemical weapons, he's doing a peachy job of murdering rebels and civilians with conventional weapons. Why should Assad care about what the world powers decide on his stockpile? The Russians will continue to supply plentiful weapons.
ReplyDeleteAssad really can't lose this round.
I read that Assad has been able to kill a lot more people with his chemical weapons. He may not be able to kill as many people without them. If they weren't important to him, then why has Syria lied about having them for all these years?
DeleteFrom where I'm sitting Putin was half the problem.
ReplyDelete@7:27 AM:
DeleteFrom where I'm sitting, POOTin was half the problem, and Syria was the other half!
Can I say "I Told You So!!"? I told you so!!
ReplyDeleteI want to say "unbelievable" about Fox news going all the way to give praise to the Evil Putin. I wonder if they really hurt themselves when they turn themselves inside out and into pretzels to keep from giving the President any kind of credit at all?
If they love him so much, why don't they move to Russia, right?
DeleteBoy, are we living in a different world! Putin writing something that is published in an American newspaper that knocks our POTUS! Friggin' amazing!
ReplyDeleteThis is a guy who headed the KGB at one time? Peace prize? Sure, FOX - the perfect (NOT) asshole that deserves it!
I don't trust this guy as far as I can throw him and it is very apparent President Obama doesn't either!
The guy who won't step up and protect gay people in his country does NOT deserve anything with the word "peace" or "prize" in it.
DeleteWhat is being said in photo ...
ReplyDeletePutin, "I will move all the sarin gas to Wasilla"
Obama, "that's a deal, as long as some shells are still leaking"
I feel kinda guilty that I giggled at that
Deletehttp://www.timesofisrael.com/assads-forces-reported-to-use-poison-gas-in-new-damascus-attack/
ReplyDeleteNew gas attack claimed -
"Is Assad’s mind so twisted that he used chemical weapons again? Or are the rebels equally twisted enough to gas Assad’s soldiers and then accuse the regime."
The right wing politicians and media would rather fellate Bin Laden's dead cock than admit President Obama has done an admirable job as president.
ReplyDeleteAnd lest they forgot, Bin Laden is dead thanks to our president.
And so too, and more importantly, is Anwar al-Awlaki... who is ironically enough also their only gate to impeachment, if only they could bite the bullet and say “Obama's too tough on terrorism!"
DeleteIf Bin Laden rose from his grave today and started talking shit about Obama, Fox news would be lobbying the Nobel committee to start awarding the prize to zombies.
DeleteI swear....things you would never dream of seeing happening every day. One of the most despicable despots in the world... Putin getting an OPED in the NYT dissing our prez!! You got to be kidding. I agree with your assessment of what really happened during the G20, Obama is so far ahead of these asswipes...he must really get a laugh on how they manage to twist the facts in the media. Playing advanced chess(seeing far down the road)vs collecting boogers...perfect comparison. I thank my lucky stars everyday that he is our president...I can't imagine any one of our politicians to have his grace, intelligence and patience...my goodness, he is patient. Although, I really don't like Kerry, I sure wish Hillary was still SOS. What a nightmare for everyone, but you have to know Putin is only taking care of himself...having Fox spewing their lies is icing on the cake for him. Such good Americans!
ReplyDeleteThink I'm wondering if that Times article wasn't Putin's retaliation for that power play Obama may have made during their meeting. A bit passive aggressive, imo... but you don't become leader of a world power without a bit of a streak of pride.
DeleteBecause the NYT and the rest of the media are all mouthpieces for Our Democratic President.
DeleteIsn't that right, Hannity, Ailes, and the rest of you Republican leg-humpers?
Fox News--- the Fair and Balanced channel promoting Russian foreign policy. Because all the other librul media love America and want the US and its President to succeed.
DeleteWe at Fox couldn't live with ourselves if we didn't support the other guy, even if he hates America. Besides, he's so white.
Couldn't be any worse than giving the NPP to a certain current President, who has failed to denounce democratic race baiters. He feeds it with HIS rhetoric. He relies on it.
ReplyDeleteWhat the FUCK are you babbling on about? You may want to remove your head from your asshole and take a breath. Really, WTF are you whining about, it makes no sense whatsoever. I'd guess you're one of Sarah's buttboys.
Delete9:52---
Delete"Couldn't be any worse than..."
Sorry, Desperate Dude. Sarah's still not going to blow you today, Chuckie, Jr. It's not the weekend yet.
Congratulations. You win the stupidest comment of the day award.
DeleteFox "News" Channel Talking Points:
ReplyDelete1. Up is down.
2. Putin deserves a Nobel Prize for being the real leader of the Free World (who leads from the front) and for saving the US from a disastrous war that only that ruthless warmonger, Obama himself, tried to instigate.
3. Governor Sarah Palin is a knowledgable political analyst.
4. Donald Trump is a viable candidate for POTUS every four years and an expert in the interim on everything on Fox & Friends.
5. George Zimmerman is an American Hero.
6. Benghazi
7. Reince Priebus and Repeat
Isn't it past time that Palin gloms onto Putin ?
ReplyDeleteAnyone who gets public attention is her usual vehicle.
She's a publicity parasite.
I'm actually surprised she resisted latching onto Miley Cyrus.
I expect that Palin will suggest a Palin/ Putin ticket for 2016.
They both have 5 letter last names that begin with P and end in N.
Plus, she can wave to Putin from her house in Alaska.
Perfect Analogy! I just hope Palin keeps her Putin twerks to herself.
DeleteThe Obama administration has been having discussions with Russia about getting rid of Syria's chemical weapons for over a year. Plus, Russia confirmed that President Obama, and Vladmir POOtin discussed this the other day, when the president visited Russia for the G-20 Summit.
ReplyDeleteVladimir POOtin only made this offer to Syria now, because he is afraid the U.S. is going to attack Syria. If Vladimir POOtin didn't believe that President Obama's threat against Syria was real, he could have laughed off the threat and ignored him, but he didn't.
For decades Syria has denied that they had chemical weapons---until President Obama threatened them. Now, Syria is admitting that they do have chemical weapons, they are saying they will allow them to be destroyed, they will allow the U.N. access to them, and that Syria will sign on to a chemical weapons ban agreement.
Syria is now claiming that they are not giving up their chemical weapons because of U.S. threats, but because Russia asked them nicely. Yeah, right. Syria is trying to save face, now. The other day, Syria said they accepted Russia's offer to "derail the American aggression." Sorry, Syria! No take-backsies!
Plus, Syria could have rejected Russia's offer, but they didn't. Syria didn't reject the offer, because Russia probably convinced them that President Obama's threat was real.
So, what does this all mean? It means President Obama got Vladmir POOtin, and Assad to blink. Racist assholes can't stand it!
Russia doesn't want us to have the tech intel Syria has. It was in their own best interests to do what President Obama has been asking for years and help get rid of Syria's weaponry.
DeleteNo, Russia WANTS the tech intel from the chem weapons, which came to Syria via Saddam in 1991 from stockpiles that weren't destroyed. Those chem weapons were courtesy of Donald Rumsfeld and Reagan Administration to use against Khomeini during the Iran-Iraq war.
DeleteNational Security Archive
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
It's old technology anyway. We've got lots better stuff now. That shit has a pretty long shelf life before it becomes unstable, but we wouldnt want it in our own inventory, not when there's easy access to the checkbook for our military to buy "new and improved!" tech to help out the poor Am. Weapons Industry who is starving (not) and chomping at the bit for another war (yep).
DeletePutin just wants to verify the CACI, KBR, GE, etc markings for sourcing of the launching weaponry and the actual chems to verify the signature for its sources as well. Putin is KGB so he wants intel to give him some leverage as proof that we've always made that stuff and passed it around to friends thru pseudo-allies like Israel. Israel, like Syria, is not a signatory to the Chemical Weapons Convention.
Reagan sold them to the Iraqis via Israel to support Saddam against Ayatollah Khomeini. Saddam was our guy until he tried to grow a big stick by wanting a bigger piece of the oil profits and tried to annex the Kuwait fields. Then GHW and the CIA began helping Hezbollah in Iran to fight back against Saddam and the Sunnis, until W invaded and... well, the rest is current events.
Vladimir Putin Lectures the US on Morality in the New York Times, Greenwald Co-Signs
ReplyDeletehttp://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/42506_Vladimir_Putin_Lectures_the_US_on_Morality_in_the_New_York_Times_Greenwald_Co-Signs
If there was any doubt of the collusion of Greenwald, Putin, Snowden and Wikileaks, that has now been removed.
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ReplyDeleteHas Sarah Palin Embarrassed Fox News For the Last Time?
It was January 24 of this year that I was able to confirm that Fox had not renewed the contract of Sarah Palin. Six months later, on June 17th it was announced that Fox News had re-hired Palin as a contributor. In that opening interview, Sarah Palin embarrassed herself, and Fox, initially with her attire.
palin pink shirt new york
Then during the interview she gave another “all of them” answer that confirmed she hadn’t a clue about that which she was speaking.
I can identify two subsequent segments in which Fox featured Palin. On June 22nd Palin appeared to say that Americans were losing trust in our Government. On July 26, Palin appeared on Fox to complain about the fact that she wasn’t allowed during the 2008 campaign to talk about Rev. Wright or Bill Ayers. She also complained regarding the media’s failure to cover relevant stories. That was one of the more stupid interviews she has ever given.
Roger Ailes has previously declared that Sarah Palin is a stupid idiot. We know he hired her because she was hot and got ratings. It appears that Sarah Palin may have embarrassed Fox News for the last time.
/ It’s been over one month since she has appeared on Fox. I made over 20 phone calls this morning to Fox, and nobody was willing to confirm whether Sarah Palin was still a contributor at Fox. If she is still associated with Fox, it appears they don’t want to claim her.
http://malialitman.wordpress.com/2013/09/12/has-sarah-palin-embarrassed-fox-news-for-the-last-time/
THIS....
Delete"It’s been over one month since she has appeared on Fox. I made over 20 phone calls this morning to Fox, and nobody was willing to confirm whether Sarah Palin was still a contributor at Fox. If she is still associated with Fox, it appears they don’t want to claim her."
It was Malia who found out last time that Baldy was let go by Fake News...and it looks like old Baldy has been given the heave "ho" again!
No wonder she's frantically bumping and grinding for donations to BaldyPAC!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA...how soon will RAM show back up at the Asylum! LOL!!!
She's going to have to step up the craziness. I hear Fox News has Alex Jones in their stable.
DeleteWTG, Malia! Well done, again.
DeleteThe FEC has announced that they are investigating Speaker of the House John Boehner for accepting dozens of illegal donations from the coal, energy, and gambling industries.
ReplyDeleteAccording to the Cleveland Plain Dealer:
The Federal Election Commission is examining whether dozens of political action committees and individuals contributed more than the legally allowed amount to House Speaker John Boehner during last year’s election cycle.
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/09/12/john-boehner-federal-investigation-campaign-finance-violations.html
They DO know there's more than one actual Nobel Peace Prize, right? "Vladimir Putin is the one who really deserves that Nobel Peace Prize"?? I know it's not a glaring grammatical error, but to say "that" prize (obviously in reference to the one the Prez got) implies that there' is only one, and much like an all-state high school football banner, gets passed to a new winner every year. Ugh.
ReplyDeleteMcCain: Putin’s Op-Ed Insults Americans’ Intelligence
ReplyDeleteSen. John McCain (R-AZ) reacted Thursday on Twitter to an op-ed written by Russian President Vladimir Putin and published in the New York Times, saying the column insulted Americans' intelligence.
Putin's op-ed referenced President Barack Obama's Tuesday address to the nation, in which the president said the United States' desire to prevent further use of chemical weapons in Syria is "what makes us exceptional."
"It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation," Putin wrote.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/mccain-putins-op-ed-insults-americans-intelligence
Boehner: ‘I Was Insulted’ By Putin’s Op-Ed
House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) said Thursday he was "insulted" by Russian President Vladimir Putin's op-ed in the New York Times where he continued to express opposition to military intervention in Syria while taking issue with the idea of "American exceptionalism."
Asked to elaborate by a reporter at a weekly press conference, Boehner declined.
"No, I think the president does foreign policy... I've already said more than I should have said. But you got the truth," he added.
The op-ed brought disparagement from both sides of the political aisle. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said the column insulted Americans' intelligence, while Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) said it nearly made him "vomit."
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/boehner-i-was-insulted-by-putins-op-ed
Menendez On Putin Op-Ed: ‘I Almost Wanted To Vomit’
When Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) first got an e-mail Wednesday night about an op-ed Russian President Vladimir Putin published in the New York Times, it nearly made him sick to his stomach at dinner.
"I almost wanted to vomit," Menendez told CNN. "I worry when someone who came up through the KGB tells us what is in our national interests, and what is not. It really raises the question of how serious the Russian proposal is."
Putin's op-ed challenged the idea of "American exceptionalism," referencing President Barack Obama's Tuesday address to the nation regarding Syria, to urge opposition to military intervention there.
Menendez added that the United States should follow through on negotiations with Russia aimed at getting Syria to place its chemical weapons under international control, saying "it would be foolish to slam the door on diplomacy."
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/menendez-on-putin-op-ed-i-almost-wanted
Putin also made reference to President Barack Obama's nationally televised address on Tuesday night regarding the situation in Syria, rebutting Obama's assertion that America is a more "exceptional" nation than others.
ReplyDelete'My working and personal relationship with President Obama is marked by growing trust. I appreciate this. I carefully studied his address to the nation on Tuesday. And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.'
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/putin-challenges-american-exceptionalism-in-new-york-times
Pass the collection basket, Rev Poootin! Pootin preaching that God created us equal, with his track record especially on gay rights is laughable.
DeleteSomeone's comment that I agree with:
ReplyDelete'My initial thought to seeing this is perhaps Putin himself has now inadvertently motivated Americans to bomb Assad and kick Russia in the nuts, ie. the opposite of Putin's intent.
I went and read the whole letter, then read a bunch of comments to it, and I may be wrong in that. A lot of what I read in the comments was praising Putin for reaching out and blah, blah, blah. Not since W was re-elected have I been so ashamed of Americans. What a bunch of idiots. Praising Putin!
America is exceptional, same as every citizen of every other country feels his/her home country is exceptional. Its a mental trick humans use to maintain loyalty to something. That doesn't make us better than anyone else, it just makes us proud of our country.
I can give Putin credit for writing a nice letter, but really, fuck Putin. I fear his trick is working because to many Americans are just 'palin' dumb.
When I read what Putin wrote about American exceptionalism I took it he was cautioning about believing only one country is exceptional.
DeleteI found it ironic he chose Obama's use of the phrase in that speech. President Obama has been whipped by right wingers and baggers because he is aware and speaks to other counteries doing great things such as in education.
The KGB thug calling out the USA is like being called ugly by a frog, with apologies to the frog. Sad thing is that many anti-war zealots and the right wing Republicans are siding with Putin over the President of the United States. Sickening!
ReplyDeleteBREAKING: After NYT op-ed rebuking Obama on Syria, Vladimir Putin hired as Fox News contributor.
ReplyDeleteThe UN says it has received Syria's application to join the chemical weapons convention
ReplyDeletehttp://bbc.in/17ZnCar
Now, how about Israel sending in its application? (Crickets)
DeletePOLL: Early frontrunners in Iowa and New Hampshire for 2016: Democrats-- Hillary Clinton; Republicans-- Vladimir Putin.
ReplyDeleteTrump won't take this challenge by Pootin sitting down... Go ahead, ask him for his birth certificate, Donald.
DeleteAlthough his nickname is common locally, Poot don't look like none of the other W.Virginians or KinFucky-ans. Plus, how did he get a dual-state birth cert.?Was his mama on her way to the Wal-mart on state-line road when he was born? (Hint: Walmart aint been 'round that long.)
Exclusive: U.N. Report Will Point to Assad Regime in Massive Chemical Attack
ReplyDeletehttp://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/09/11/un_report_will_finger_assad_for_massive_chemical_attack
Nancy Pelosi Dings Putin: I Hope His Argument For Equality Applies To 'Gays And Lesbians In Russia'
ReplyDeleteIt's not what Vladimir Putin's New York Times op-ed says that's so worrisome; it's what it doesn't say. As a Russian and as someone who has been to Syria multiple times since the beginning of the conflict to investigate war crimes and other violations, I would like to mention a few things Putin overlooked.
ReplyDeleteThere is not a single mention in Putin's article, addressed to the American people, of the egregious crimes committed by the Syrian government and extensively documented by the UN Commission of Inquiry, local and international human rights groups, and numerous journalists: deliberate and indiscriminate killings of tens of thousands of civilians, executions, torture, enforced disappearances and arbitrary arrests. His op-ed also makes no mention of Russia's ongoing transfer of arms to Assad throughout the past two and a half years.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anna-neistat/what-putins-op-ed-forgot_b_3914154.html
With Republicans falling over themselves to hug Putin while aiding Assad in his messaging, and Putin following Republicans lead to take digs at “American exceptionalism” when Obama says it, it’s hard to know who the “bad guys” are these days.
ReplyDeleteSo we get this from the New York Times: “Obama: Weak or the anti-Bush?”
Republicans et al are elevating Putin in order to tend their bitter Obama wounds; thus, because Putin had an op-ed on the NYT in which he swaggered a lot (remarkably like another “dictator”, Bush — an accusation made by constitutional lawyers), Obama is “weak”. This is the conclusion of his usual detractors, and since many Republicans are saying it, it’s also become the takeaway and the trickle down beltway auto-looping narrative of the day.
It’s as if there is no more time. It’s all done now. The weapons are turned over and Putin delivered on his promise and we have proof that even though Obama was talking to him, this was really all Putin’s idea (even though Putin hasn’t exactly proven to be such a long term thinker).
Or, reality: This is the BEGINNING of very tense negotiations that may or may not even work, and Putin did what he had to do because it turns out that President Obama is not someone to cross when it really matters. See, Obama is not the fantasy liberal pacifist the right thinks he is, nor is he the war-monger the far left thinks he is. People can’t see that Obama’s opponents are often very loud, but rarely victorious. This is not a “weak” person. That is one of the more ignorant arguments I’ve ever heard lobbed at Obama.
And of course, presidents, no matter how well intentioned, can’t control events. They can only control their reaction to events.
So Obama said Syria’s use of chemical weapons merited a military strike and he pushed for it. He also delayed the push by “bringing it to Congress” when he didn’t have to, making it clear that he was serious about the military strikes and wanted everyone to start discussing it. Eventually we got around to the atrocities – the very reason for his proposal – and that led to condemning them once they were backed up with evidence. This put more pressure on Putin and Assad both.
In the meantime, Obama has been talking to Putin for the last year and specifically at the G20 about this issue.
Suddenly Putin is on board, and Putin credits himself as do the Republicans. The media isn’t far behind. All hail the mighty Putin, President of Democracy! Oh, wait. The Navalny verdict. Oh well, this is the kind of guy Republicans, the media and even the far left can get behind. He’s a decider! He saved us all. He’s the good guy, not our own President.
Pssst: If you are so invested in hating Obama that you can’t bring yourself to even question your growing allegiance to a known dictator, you are probably not thinking very clearly.
In Republican world, unless you kick the other person in the shin out of the blue, you’re weak. Republicans go for the most obvious and least effective (foreign policy wise) display of power – the bully, the cowboy, the gun, the smirk, the Mission Accomplished banner.
So it’s not their fault that Republicans don’t recognize real power, especially when it’s used against them. It’s just a shame that our media doesn’t bother to see the big picture and can’t keep up with this President. Then again, who would want a president so average that the media left him or her in the dark.
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/09/12/smart-leaders-victory-lap-mission-accomplished.html
Hehehehe! Add to their booger collection. Good one! Mental visions of huge booger balls stuck under their tables.
ReplyDeletePlease, please, PLEASE don't let that become a tourist attraction, like the giant ball of rubber bands or twine!
DeleteIf this was the movie "Red Dawn" fox news would be fighting for the other side.. :)
ReplyDeleteWolverines!!!!
DeleteVladie's just covering his butt.
ReplyDeleteThe olympics are in Russia, he's trying to polish his public image in advance, because they'd lose a huge infusion of money if the Olympics Committee decides to have the event elsewhere, or we have balls enough to stand up for equal rights.
I'm still chuckling over what I see is Obama's brilliant ploy in this. It seems someone agrees with me:
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