A federal judge ordered a defiant county clerk to jail for contempt Thursday after she insisted that it would violate her conscience to follow court orders to issue marriage licenses to gay couples.
Rowan County clerk Kim Davis and her deputy clerks were summoned to appear before U.S. District Judge David Bunning after she repeatedly denied them marriage licenses, cited her religious beliefs and "God's authority."
The judge said his only alternative was to jail her because he did not believe she would comply with his order even if she were fined. She was escorted out of his courtroom by a deputy, although not in handcuffs, to be turned over to the custody of federal marshals.
Just goes to show that stubborn superstition will always give way to intellectual progress eventually.
This woman was not only an anti-gay bigot hiding behind the Bible, but she was also stunningly hypocritical:
Court records detail Kim Davis’ turbulent marital history: She has been married to her current husband twice, with a divorce and another husband in between.
She married her first husband, Dwain Wallace, when she was 18, and divorced him in 1994.
She acknowledged in a 2008 divorce filing having had two children in 1994 while she was not married.
In 1996, at age 30, she married Joe Davis for the first time. They divorced in 2006.
The next year, at 40 years old, Davis wed Thomas McIntryre, though their marriage lasted less than a year. She re-married Joe Davis in 2009.
I have no use for religion anyhow, but I have to say that a person like this does not do Christianity any favors.
Wow, that seems harsh. At what point did the rule of law become so all important?
ReplyDeleteAre you joking?
DeleteThis is snark. Right? (Right?)
DeleteProbably back about the time Richard Nixon refused to turn over White House tapes to a federal prosecutor. Should a Kentucky county clerk have more right to pick and choose which laws she likes and will comply with?
DeleteWell, if she wasn't jailed for contempt, the fashion police would have got her. I mean. come on, look at those clothes. Prison garb will be a serious fashion upgrade for her.
ReplyDeleteAnd, she makes $80,000 a year - assuredly wouldn't know it - looking at her physical appearance. She's a mess!
DeleteShe needs to be taught to follow the law. Keep her in jail, Judge, and teach her a huge, huge lesson. The law comes before god when you are an employee!
She's apparently been sentenced to remain in jail until she agrees to start issuing marriage licenses to gay couples. The judge said he wouldn't fine her because her supporters would just pay for her (she already had groups raising money).
DeleteAt what point does "martyrdom" get boring, and all the fanatical supporters drift away?
Best of luck in finding out, Ms. Wonderfullest Christian of Them All....
A buzz cut, please!
DeleteIs she the only "easy" woman in that town? Hard to believe that she is THAT popular, must have a hidden "talent" Maybe she will meet husband #5 while behind bars? A deputy or prison guard. Her son is now refusing to issue the marriage licenses also, too!
DeleteShe wants to follow the bible exactly?
DeleteWell, adultery is a stoning offense.
I'll bet this hypocrite eats pork, shellfish, works on the Sabbath (that would include cooking and cleaning) and wears cotton/polyester aka clothing made of mixed threads.
I'm she is among the bigots denouncing Sharia law and ISIS and the Taliban, yet that is exactly what they want to institute in this country; religious law with themselves as the Talibangelicals enforcing their Xian Sharia.
If this lady can find three guys to marry her with the way she looks and dresses ... there may still be hope for Bristol to find a husband.
ReplyDeleteGood point! LOL.
DeleteAll the deputies are going to issue licenses except Kim Davis' son. But, he's an employee not an elected official, so it seems that he can be fired for not doing his job. Kim Davis was elected so to remove her from office, there would have to be a legal action followed by a new election.
ReplyDeleteHer son should and, I'm sure, will be fired! Then, he needs to be taken to the barn and taught a lesson. You follow the law when you work - not your god interest!
DeleteHe's looking to eventually slide into the job, just like his mom did when her mom died.
DeleteLet her be impeached, then replaced with an interim appointment until the next election.
DeleteFire the son and any other employees refusing to do their jobs.
Have to wonder if this is one of the bastard twins, issue of their mother's adultery.
Why not just fire her ass since she refuses to do what her jail requires her to do?
ReplyDeletePutting her in jail only gives her what she wants.
There are gay people in jail and they might get the chance to work her over! Teach her to follow the law in some way - the majority in America do not agree with her actions!
DeleteIt is an elected position, and therefore she cannot be fired.
DeleteWhy is she so rabid on this subject, when committing adultery seems to be part of her lifestyle? What other Commandments has she broken? She would fit right in with the Duggar clan.
DeleteShe can't be fired but she can be recalled or impeached. There is also a method of removal from office which I'm sure refusing to do your job is a reason.
DeleteI'd like to see the governor step up and clean up this mess. It's gotten way too much press.
Agree 3:06. Like so many "Christians", Ms. Davis, in her public and private life, picks and chooses which Biblical laws or rules she will follow/enforce and ignores the rest. But you'd best agree with her, dammit!
DeleteNo, mlaiuppa, let them keep talking about her and the Duggers and the rest of the hypocrites. It doesn't help the Republican cause at all, especially with women, minorities and the next generation of voters.
DeleteAlthough I had not been a supporter of same-sex marriage, I have to say that I disagree with what this woman is doing. If she finds giving out marriage licenses to gay couples is a violating of her religious principles, then she needs to get another job. She can't interfere with the workings of the law. This issue has been decided by the Supreme Court. I know that evangelicals are offended that this is what America has come to, but they need to face it. There is simply nothing in the Constitution that says your job is guaranteed never to change in ways you find morally or religiously objectionable. Her discomfort at SSM doesn't mean her rights are being violated here. If her faith is strong she should search for another job. She believes she has eternal life? Then getting another job while here on earth is a pretty minor inconvenience in the whole scheme of things.
ReplyDeleteThis advice comes to her from a fellow evangelical.
Wow, I find it amazing that you are here on this blog. Why are you here, since 98% of what is posted is in direct conflict with your beliefs? Really curious.
DeleteAnd really, nowhere in the bible does it say you'll burn in hell if gays are allowed to get married, so I don't get why the evangelicals take it so terribly personally.
Delete>>I know that evangelicals are offended that this is what America has come to, but they need to face it.<<
Delete"What America has come to" is an incrementally advanced understanding that civil rights apply to all, including the right to civil marriage.Civil, not religious, and I'm still waiting to hear from the first member of any clergy who was "forced" to officiate a same-gender marriage.
Even Kim Davis is not being asked to do that. Her job is to pass out marriage licenses to two - and only two - U.S. citizens who meet the current legal requirements. Everything beyond that is none of her damn business.
If it's difficult for evangelicals to "face" that, perhaps they're not nearly as read up on civics (and our Constitution) as they are the Bible.
Here's why. (Hat tip to Amanda Marcotte for the insight). In a ssmarraige, responsibility, chores and decisions are negotiated or shared. And ssmarraiges work - happier parents and kids. So if THE FUNDERNUTS LIVE next to JOE And John, and Susie FUNDERNUT sees one or both of them changing a diaper or doing the lawn and overhears them sharing decisions she may begin to question why in her marriage her husband never lifts a finger with the kids or the housework, never shares the checkbook or the decisions because MEN don't. JImbob FUNDERNUT really doesn't like where this line of questioning is heading. Hence he's agàinst same sex marriage or even openly gay relationships.
DeleteYou are an evangelical, so you, too, are upset that this is "what America has come to?"
DeleteI guess we should be glad you at least agree that the rule of law trumps religious beliefs.
She keeps claiming she follows a higher authority than the law, I.E. God.
DeleteThis is a real danger as she is no different than the Ayatollah's in Iran or ISIS.
We don't have religious law here, not sharia and not fundamental christian. We have separation of church and state.
This idiot and the Liberty Counsel (graduates of Liberty University?) are trying to prove that God trumps the constitution. That is really what this is about.
Over and over it has been ruled that if your in a private business you can use religion to practice bigotry but only if your state law allows it. If state law has a non-discrimination law then you still have to bake that cake for that gay wedding.
But first, let them prove that "God" exists -- because, if "God" does not exist, then there is absolutely no way a non-existent non-being can possibly trump anything, let alone the Constitution!
DeleteI agree that these fundamentalist extremists are no different than the Ayatollahs, or the Taliban, etc. (I refuse to call them "Christian" as they are in no way Christ-like.)
DeleteHowever, I think that what they really want isn't for god to trump the constitution, but that they, the Fundies, are persecuted. Once a group has been convinced that they are being persecuted, they are much easier to contol and manipulate. It's divisive politics, plain and simple, and it's very harmful to our democracy.
Kim Davis seems like the kind of person that would be thrilled to "suffer" for her "faith", even if she has to bend over backwards to find some way to get punished. It's all about how noble and superior she is.
ReplyDeleteThere's plenty of her kind of nut in many faiths. The rest of us just take it out in a healthy sex life.
She's exactly like one of my in-laws. When her mother died, she went overboard in religion almost overnight, and became a bitch-on-wheels zealot. She has mellowed over the years, but she's still a self-righteous person who is very, very judgmental and difficult to be around.
DeleteActually, I don't think she really WANTS to suffer for her faith. If she did, she would have quietly resigned her $80,000 a year position when the law required her to issue licenses to couples she found objectionable.
DeleteInstead, she chose to seek a very public martyrdom in the media and insist that everyone else follow the tenets of her particular church.
I suspect that she hoped to cash in on right wing indignation like the owners of the pizzeria in Indiana that refused to cater to gay weddings. The last total I read they had collected was ten times what Davis makes in a year - a pretty tempting payday for refusing to do your job!
So, "Thou shalt not commit adultery" is overlooked in her religion? Seems to be since she has done so many times.
DeleteDick Cheney in drag?
ReplyDeleteNope. Drag queens have a helluva lot better fashion sense.
DeleteAnd a lot better self-control when it comes to eating.
DeleteI see it now: a GoFundMe site for her followed by a book deal with Brancy as her ghostwriter, then, she'll make the rounds of the talk shows and become a regular at CPAC. Just like someone else we all know and love.
ReplyDeleteNope, she's disqualified:
Deletehttps://www.gofundme.com/terms
-- Campaigns in defense of formal charges or claims of heinous crimes, violent, hateful, sexual or **discriminatory acts**
I'll bet there's some sort of right wing Christian Fundie version of GoFundMe they all use. Like those Christian dating sites only for money.
DeleteThis will be interesting to see how it plays out. I see this making its way to higher courts.
ReplyDeleteI don't. It's been decided already. The only way a higher court would agree to hear the case is if they have judges batshit enough to think there might be a reasonable case for elected officials picking and choosing which laws they'll follow.
DeleteIt went to a higher court. The Supreme Court refused to hear her case.
DeleteIt already has been there. She is now in jail for contempt of court because she is not following the laws in place. There is no "higher court" for contempt cases.
DeleteIt's already been to the Supreme Court.
DeleteI see her rotting in jail until she finally agrees to do her job, then doesn't, then is put in jail again for contempt and this time a big whopping fine is added. Then she finally resigns.
The only way she is getting out of this is to resign. And the longer she sits in jail, the more likely is the public will forget her and move on when the next big story breaks.
She lost this before she started.
Wrong mlaiuppa (as usual- totally unsurprising, again), while gay marriage has effectively been legalized by the Supreme Court, this particular case and it's arguments, has not been in front of the Supreme Court. Not to say they will take it, but there are always opportunities for appeals. It could definitely go somewhere, these kinds of situations have legs, and it will be interesting if it does.
DeleteThis case and its arguments have not been in front of the SCOTUS because they refused to hear the case. That means there is no case.
DeleteWrong 6:46, they refused a stay, that doesn't mean there will not be some type of appeal or case eventually heard. This is an interesting scenario. The supreme courts decision was a 5-4 on same sex marriage, very slight.
DeleteKim Davis could be released from jail after deputy clerks agree to issue licenses: Live updates
ReplyDeletehttp://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/09/kentucky_clerk_kim_davis_appea.html
I think she took it to the supreme court and they refused to hear it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
DeleteYep. Thanks Elena kagan.
DeleteI hope her name is still on the stamp they use. As county clerk, it might be.
DeleteIt is. That is why she ordered all licenses ceased. Because her name was stamped on all of them, whether she personally issued them or not.
DeleteImagine if Kim Davis were to discover she's actually a bigamist, because the clerk in charge of finalizing her divorce papers didn't do it since the clerk was a Catholic. Next, she discovers she doesn't have any job-related health insurance, because THAT clerk was a Christian Scientist....which becomes a huge, huge issue because the head clerk of the whole office is---wait for it---a Pentecostal SNAKE HANDLER, whose conscience impels her to worship on the job!!!
ReplyDeleteWhen she goes to buy a gun to take the head clerk out in self-protection, she can't get a permit because the clerk in charge of that happens to be a Quaker, and selling guns goes against his sincerely held pacifist beliefs.
And then....and then....
Oh my, in the name of "God's authority", where does it all end?
Best post ever!!!!!!!!!!
DeleteAnd, oh so true -- potentially!!!!
I'm hoping she meets her female soul mate in jail and decides to divorce her fourth husband and become a lesbian. I think she's hoping for a reality show and a book deal. Someone said she dresses like Kathy Bates in Misery. Bang on!
DeleteAnd THAT'S why we have secular law in this country!
DeleteIf she were really "born again," she would separate from her 2nd/4th husband. Instead, she continues to commit adultery.
DeleteBorn again, and she got it wrong the second time also, too. Not exactly who you would expect to be a femme fatale, is she? Bristles should ask herself what she is doing wrong, she sleeps with anyone with a penis, and STILL no weddings.
DeleteAccording to the Bibull she is an adulterer, since she remarried( multiple times) after her first divorce. According to the bibull she needs to be stoned to death.
DeleteGreat post, 12:25!
Delete-Bristol D. Frederick
LOL. Yep. The fundies never think anyone has any religious convictions except for them.
DeleteThrow his bigoted ass in jail with his delusional mama:
ReplyDeleteKim Davis’ son Nathan refuses to issue same-sex marriage licenses in Kentucky after mother is jailed
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/kim-daviss-son-refuses-to-issue-same-sex-marriage-licenses-after-mother-is-jailed/
I would be very interested in reading about any criminal records her kids might have. Would you wager even ten bucks they're all clean?
DeleteHe can be fired since his is not an elected position :)
DeleteIs Nathan one of the born out of wedlock product of adultery twins?
DeleteIf the clerk does not want to do her job properly and serve all of the citizens without prejudice then she should resign. Problem solved. Maybe her church can hire her as church secretary or something. She should not be receiving a salary from all of the taxpayers if she is going to refuse to serve some of them.
ReplyDeleteBeaglemom
She clearly has an agenda, or someone else's, that does not include resignation or even agreeing that her deputies can issue licenses. These are American Taliban at work.
DeleteKim Davis' agenda is to make a tidy sum on the speaker circuit hawking a ghost-written book about her martyrdom for christianity. Kim Davis has a good understanding of grifting. Every day she spends in jail will increase her asking price as a speaker/author. She'll have a glorious time sporting her modest attire and limited grasp of the bible to talk show hosts.
DeleteStardom for christ, it's what every little bigot longs for.
Doubt she'd make $80,000 a year as the church secretary.
DeleteI suspect this is also a power thing.
She "inherited" this job from her Dad and is grooming her son to take over.
Our electoral system is supposed to eliminate this sort of dynastic perversion of our legal system.
mlaiuppa6:26 PM
DeleteDoubt she'd make $80,000 a year as the church secretary.
I suspect this is also a power thing.
She "inherited" this job from her Dad and is grooming her son to take over.
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How can you inherit a government job, elected or not elected?
Well, there's name recognition.
DeleteHer Dad held the job for over 20 years and she worked under him.
She ran in 2014 and won, took the oath in January of 2015. I'm sure she's counted on being re-elected for as long as we wanted to serve until she got herself a big, fat retirement pension.
Then her son would run and win, coming from a long line of clerks.
Even though it's an elected office, it's not unusual for an elected office to go from parent to child.
We've got Duncan Hunter locally.
Then there are the Cuomos.
And of course, the Bush dynasty, Jeb being the most recent hopeful.
If the local political machine is behind them, then yes, they are inheriting the job, elected or not.
I thought it was her mom
DeleteSo now she's a martyr. Imagine all the possibilities for a martyr in today's society {snark}. Glad that Gofundme will not allow her to have an account.
ReplyDeleteFire her son's ass! What a good mommy she is to get her son fired...
Don't you have to be dead to be a martyr?
Deletemar·tyrˈmärdər/
noun
noun: martyr; plural noun: martyrs
1. a person who is killed because of their religious or other beliefs.
"saints, martyrs, and witnesses to the faith"
Claiming martyrdom without the actual dying is a fine art espoused by wingnuts of all stripes.
DeleteShe's already a martyr to the fundie crowd. Now, instead of being a martyr sitting at her desk, she's a martyr sitting in jail.
DeleteShe is sitting in jail where she belongs. No mo' chik F la for her!
DeleteCouple of thoughts:
ReplyDeleteIf this lady is so fucking religious, why has she has been divorced and married multiple times? The Bible gives very little leeway on this issue.
And, if a Muslim man works at my local DMV, should he be allowed to refuse to give a driver's license to female applicants?
According to her lawyer she was "saved" and "forgiven by God" four years ago. So you can't count anything she did prior to getting saved. Built in excuse.
DeleteAh...the death row inmate mentality.
Delete"And, if a Muslim man works at my local DMV, should he be allowed to refuse to give a driver's license to female applicants?"
DeleteSo many of the people who are ranting about this poor woman being persecuted are the same people who yell the loudest about the threat of Sharia law. It's okay for them to insist that we all follow whatever version of the Bible they happen to read, but we should never, EVER follow that other book!!!
Exactly!
DeleteFor the record, Muslims have no general prohibition against women driving. They can't get drivers licenses in Saudi Arabia and perhaps a few other places, but it is certainly not the case everywhere.
DeleteSpreading falsehoods about the Islamic religion does not contribute positively to public discourse.
By her own admission she is not qualified for the job. Once upon a time it was okay to pretend gays were not human beings. Not anymore.
ReplyDeleteMy state had a governor who served two terms in office. The state had capital punishment and several death row inmates. The governor decided that since his religious beliefs were in conflict with execution, he would commute all their sentences as a final act. Many were upset. His political career ended once he finished his term.
ReplyDeleteThe state? The governor?
DeleteNew Mexico, Anaya.
DeleteIt was in his power to commute sentences. It is not in the power of this woman to refuse marriage licenses.
DeleteYour point?
DeleteIt is within his job duties to commute sentences if he wants to, for any reason. He was doing his job.
This bigoted POS is refusing to do her job and claiming it is forbidden by her religion. So she needs to quit or to sit in jail until she either decides to do her job or to quit.
Not even remotely similar. At all.
I was reading an article where it stated her Oath of Office she took as County Clerk. It states (in part) as follows:
ReplyDelete"I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of this Commonwealth, and be faithful and true to the Commonwealth of Kentucky so long as I continue a citizen thereof, and that I will faithfully execute, to the best of my ability, the office of Clerk..... according to law" and ends with "so help me God"
Based on that, I would state with no equivocation that she was legally, morally, and ethically obligated to issue the marriage licenses. I agree with the Judge that by "picking and chosing" what she would enforce based on HER personal beliefs, and not the laws, rules, and regulations at a local, State, and Federal level, she was not following the Oath she took and swore to.
An oath is typically taken by some power, and most people no doubt believe they’re swearing by Almighty God to uphold the Constitution and laws of the United States (and of the state, in the case of these state officials). Would it make sense to swear an oath in God’s name and then go and obey that oath in violation of God’s word? It wouldn’t, of course, but that’s beside the point. Whom you swear the oath by is VASTLY from WHAT you swear to do.
Elected (and appointed) officials in the America don’t swear to uphold God’s law. They swear to uphold the Constitution, which never mentions God at all. And they swear to uphold laws enacted under the Constitution, which means laws that are in compliance with the establishment clause that prohibits any established or official religion.
That’s the main reason the framers didn’t include God in the oath of office. It would’ve contradicted the proposition in the Constitution that said no religious test would ever be required to hold office under the Constitution.
Of course, there’s nothing wrong with doing like Washington and adding God to the oath. But the key point is that doing so is a personal decision, not an official or professional one. And the consequence of that distinction is all-important.
It’s just fine for a public official to say that he or she won’t enforce any law that’s fundamentally immoral and in contradiction to God’s laws. But the only way to keep that promise consistent with the oath of office is for the official to resign when she thinks enforcing the law would be wrong. Given Davis’s statement of faith that it would violate her interpretation of God’s will to issue a marriage license to a same-sex couple, she should quit her position as county clerk. Indeed, she must, or she’d be living in a position of hypocritical sin.
But by saying she won't issue the marriage licenses while serving in office, Davis is also, if I may humbly say so, committing a sin: violating an oath she made before God to uphold the Constitution and laws of the U.S. The Constitution requires her to issue licenses for all couples, and that includes gay couples. Every moment she disobeys the Constitution, she is violating her oath. The Bible doesn’t look kindly on oath-breaking. The only way for her to emerge from the state of sin is to resign.
Under the Constitution, the government can’t force you to engage in a religious action or stop you from exercising your freedom of religion. Normally, it shouldn’t coerce you to act against your faith. But no one was or is coercing Kim Davis. She’s free to serve the public and obey her oath to God to follow the law. And she’s free to quit and absolve herself of that oath. The choice is hers.
Before you tell me that the Constitution doesn’t require gay marriage, that the reason we are having this argument is because "the Supreme Court is the people requiring gay marriage", think again. The Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Constitution is binding, and that’s a cardinal constitutional principle that can’t be denied by anyone who works for any part of the U.S. government. If you don’t agree with that, there’s a Civil War that needs fighting, again.
If she feels that her commitment to god supersedes her duty to uphold the constitution, she should have never run for this office or taken that oath.
DeleteShe should also have never issued any marriage licenses to any divorced people. Her issue with gay marriage is at best ambiguous in the scripture, and many don't even see it exists at all. However, JC himself was crystal clear that divorce and remarriage is a sin. She apparently has no trouble aiding and abetting those sinners.
She is such a freaking hypocrite on so many levels. I hope she has a nice, loooooong stay in jail. That ought to cool her Jebus jets.
@12:25 Brilliant thought process!
ReplyDeleteI sure hope the Gideon's left a bible in cell. She needs to read up on what JC had to say.
ReplyDeleteWith just a few days in the jail, this woman will be singing a different tune. You cannot pick and choose the laws you follow. They are what they are. Yes, she has First Amendments rights to believe as she pleases, but she cannot use those rights to deny others their rights.
ReplyDeleteIf she cannot or will not do her job (remember her salary is paid by the taxpayers), then she must resign. But the bitch doesn't want to leave her $80,000 a year job. She wants it both ways and that a'int going to happen.
So, in jail she sits and rightfully so.
Amen and agreed!
DeleteLike many who protest too much, perhaps she has "issues"? She looks quite masculine....
DeleteMaybe a little jail time is what she WANTED? Test out her preferences as to male vs female?
DeleteThe Lesbians in jail are just going to love her - hopefully she'll be put in a cell with one so she will experience a Lesbian at close quarters
ReplyDeleteNow there's a genuinely homophobic comment.
DeleteWhat a nasty person you are.
I don't think any lesbian would touch her, but they sure as hell will give her an earful.
DeleteM
The punishment for refusing to issue marriage licenses isn't rape.
DeleteMy son laughed when I said "I have had plenty of religious people come knocking on my door, trying to convert me. I have NEVER had a homosexual person bother me, trying to convert me to their lifestyle" They prefer to spend their time with like minded people. The religious nuts want to get EVERYONE thinking their way.
DeleteYou just don’t get it Gryphen! Christianity allows for forgiveness if one believes in Jesus and redemption. It really doesn’t matter how many times someone screws up. All one has to do is ask for forgiveness, repent and the tribe has your back! She will always have a place in which her bigotry is forgiven and actually celebrated! Christianity is no better/different than any other religious narrative. It is all about the tribe.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how many of the congregation she has slept with or is STILL sleeping with?
DeleteJust insert "black" instead of "gay/lesbian" and you have history repeating itself. Hateful, ignorant people never learn, they don't want to.
ReplyDeleteA member of the christian ISIL is put in her place. We don't need elected officials implementing their version of christian Sharia law on others.
ReplyDeleteAs an American I just find it completely insane that other people find the need to press their own beliefs onto others. Just because this woman believes in something else does not give her the right to tell or dictate how others live their lives. She's breaking the law, period. There shouldn't even be a debate about this because the courts made gay marriage legal. If people don't like it then they should keep it to themselves. It's completely perplexing to me that people care so much about strangers lives that they feel the need to get involved and dictate how they live. It's none of their business nor are they "God". If they think that way they should get out of United States and live somewhere that has similar beliefs and makes it the law.
ReplyDeleteAmen!!
DeleteIf Kim Davis were being denied a marriage certificate by a Muslim who did not believe in multiple marriages, she would be screaming Sharia law at the top of her lungs. However, she seems not to be able to see that she is a mullah in Christian clothing. Here is a very interesting article on a possible back story for Inmate Kim. http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2015/09/01/22793219/i-suppose-i-should-say-something-about-kim-davis
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ReplyDeleteMs. Davis needs to respect the fact all her name on the license is indicative of is the county in which it was issued. It does not represent her personal endorsement or approval. No one is looking for that nor is it required, except in the mind of Ms. Davis.
Given the length of time she's served in that office, both under her mother and since taking over her mother's office, she may believe she owns it and has a say in the practices of that office. However, she is just a public employee who must follow the law in these cases, no more, no less.
If I were a Kentucky taxpayer I would be pretty pissed by now considering my tax dollars will continue to be sent to her all the while she is in jail. And after she gets out, guess what, she will probably do the book tour with Sahara Palin and Sean Hannity. Big bucks there.
ReplyDeleteRowan County, KY pays her salary (and benefits). The jail is a federal.
DeleteAs a champion of both gay rights and unadulterated free speech (with no asterisks or "buts") I readily concede that this woman has every right to feel, inside of herself, that she doesn't approve of gay marriage and every right to say so openly. She has zero right to disobey the law, refuse to do her job, and prevent others from practicing their hard-won Constitutional right to marry.
ReplyDeleteBe funny if she came out of jail a lesbian.
ReplyDeleteJail does not a lesbian make, nor a gay man for that matter. Given what I've read about her she should practice celibacy. I certainly hope she doesn't squeeze out any more babies to be brainwashed by her beliefs.
DeleteA public official should follow the law, no matter his/her personal religious belief is. If she cannot do the job, she should find another job. The judge did the right thing in throwing her in jail for contempt of court. After tasting the jail food for couple of weeks , she would be singing like canary to be let out. This woman admits she had done wild and wicked things in the past. Now all of a sudden she found salvation. What a bull!!
ReplyDeleteNo doubt she will pray on it and discover God wants her to be free. It so convenient to have God as a pen pal.
ReplyDeleteNot allowing her deputies to issue licenses, when they were obviously prepared to, fatally undermines her integrity (such as it is). She is doing exactly what she complains of - coercing other people on a question of belief.
ReplyDeleteI bet the jail has her in special population with a camera on her 24/7. She is exactly the sort to claim mistreatment because of her "faith".
ReplyDeleteMy sympathies go to whatever prison matron was assigned Missy Kim's cavity search. Ewwww
ReplyDeleteShe has a blackened heart. A mean spirited ,whoa! Is that Screech palin in disguise?
ReplyDeleteOne hateful hypocrite/bigot. Man is she ugly and used up.
Rev. Franklin Graham recently announced his Decision America Tour, which will travel to all 50 states in 2016 to encourage Christians to vote for Christians, and to urge Christians to run for political positions on federal, state and local levels (video below).
ReplyDeleteIn an op-ed penned for Charisma News, Graham recalled Nehemiah, from the Bible, who supervised the rebuilding of the walls of Jerusalem in 52 days even though he faced opposition from Samaritans, Ammonites, Arabs and Philistines.
Graham claimed: "America's walls of biblical morality are crumbling," and "Christianity and our religious freedoms are under siege. Progressives and secularists want to see God removed from everything and to burn every gate of protection."
Graham didn't say which religious freedoms were "under siege," or name any progressives and secularists who wanted "God removed from everything."
Graham told Christians that they needed to take a bold stand like Nehemiah, and cry out on behalf of all Americans to God. Graham said the dates and cities of his Decision America Tour would be announced in October.
https://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/rev-franklin-graham-traveling-50-states-fill-political-offices-christians-video
Oh, and btw, bring da money , you know, pesos, euro's,
DeleteDollars, .fools.
Maybe Franklin;s plane needs to be replaced with a newer model? After Creflo Dollar got a new plane paid for by his church, Franklin wants to do better.
DeleteWhat part of her oath did she not understand? As a public official she can't cherry pick the laws she'll follow and cry religious discrimination. Whether she agrees with the ruling or not, the Supreme Court ruling made same sex marriage legal--she needs to follow the law or resign.
ReplyDeleteAll those divorces and illegitimate children.... this will be Bristol Palin in 15 years.
ReplyDeleteWell....without the marriages and thus the divorces, but I bet in 15 yrs Bristle will have about 8 kids with 8 different baby daddies.
Deleteafter all the plastic surgery bissy has had, she'll look even worse.
DeleteBristol does not have ex husbands, only ex trial husbands, She cuts out the middle man.
DeleteWell, the No Homos is right there in the 10 commandments:
ReplyDeleteHonor thy father and mother
Don't steal
don't kill
NO ADULTERY
don't covet
...hey, wait a minute...
I was flipping channels and saw the tail end of a news segment that was reporting that she issued a marriage license to a transgender man and woman about six months ago. Oh boy, this is gonna bite her!
ReplyDelete-Bristol D. Frederick
"Why are you here, since 98% of what is posted is in direct conflict with your beliefs?"
ReplyDeleteI originally came here while searching for info about Bristol Palin's pregnancy. But I came to find this site interesting. I did the same with the gay website Towleroad. I started out being "anti-gay" politically but came to be more liberal after reading that website for a number of months. I think it's important to read from a variety of viewpoints. And truthfully, the right-wing echo chamber gets boring after a while.
The right-wing echo chamber would give me hives and a headache.
DeleteWell I hope you have come to realize that you can have your personal beliefs, but your personal "beliefs" aren't a basis for laws and that all USA citizens deserve the same rights and freedoms.
Delete5:27 Which pregnancy? First, second, third, fouth or the latest one?
DeleteWhere's her "God" now? His name is "Warden" and what he or she says, goes. But fret not, this was in God's plan for you! God wants you to experience the true compassion, respect, and love you've shown his/her other creations, in equal or double measure.
ReplyDeleteI suppose being divorced, remarried, divorced, having two babies in between marriages gives her the moral authority over teh gays.
All joking aside, I couldn't think of a better outcome. Now it's up to her to "stand her ground", she'll continue to be held in contempt of court until she apologizes and sees the error of her ways. Which means, we'll be paying her room, board and meals for a long time, she should have married God
The thing that bothers me the most is that she had the gall to say she wouldn't discriminate ('cause that would be wrong), so she would issue no licenses. And instruct her staff to do the same. (What does she have over them? She can't fire them without enduring a long legal battle over whose word is predominant - hers or the Constitution.) However, it's not discriminating if she gets her way and has sanctioned permission to discriminate. Huh?
ReplyDeleteShe seems not to have enough self-awareness to understand she is acting just like a mullah.
DeleteIsn't that wonderful, she refuses to perform the duties and who is paying her attorney fees, the county. If they make her resign, the taxpayers get to pay for a special election.
ReplyDeleteAll because of her conscience, but her conscience wasn't bothered when she committed adultery or had children out of wedlock. I would love her hear her explanation on that one.
If you’re Baptist, don’t work in a liquor store. If you’re an idiot, don’t run for County Clerk in Kentucky.
ReplyDeleteMargaret, here is the thing about religion: Faith is a wonderful thing until it becomes certainty; at which point it becomes fanaticism. If there was only one true religion, fanaticism wouldn’t be all that bad. But there’s the rub, honey. Not only are there many different religions; there are many different versions of each religion. These days religious beliefs are like a backside. Everyone’s got one and often times they stink.
http://margaretandhelen.com/2015/09/03/if-youre-baptist-dont-work-in-a-liquor-store-if-youre-an-idiot-dont-run-for-county-clerk-in-kentucky/
I practiced empathy with this woman. I was Catholic so in her shoes I would refuse a license to any person remarrying but no I am not like her. If I was Baptist and worked at a restaurant that began serving liquor so in her shoes I would enforce no alcohol but no I am not like her.
DeleteShe wants to force her principals and beliefs onto others outside the law. I clapped my hands that she was sent to jail for refusing to comply with the law. She has the choice to get another job. Maybe prison will help her see the light.
In case you haven't yet, check out the wits over in the Wonkette commentaries: they're on a roll.
ReplyDeleteHad she been a school teacher, could she have refused to teach gay children and those whose religion is different from her's or who expressed beliefs she didn't share? Why draw the line at County Clerk. How about emergency responders, care givers, doctors and nurses, or even police.
ReplyDeleteWho cares what the law is and the courts say? As Huckabee points out, the supreme court is not the supreme being. If belief and faith are everything, anyone anywhere at any time can practice those deeply felt conviction however they wish.
Well, $80,000 a year? NOW I know why she is so popular with the goobers.
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