We normally don't like to post these kind of things, we try to keep everything positive here, but this just needs to be...
Posted by Victoria Leigh Soto on Saturday, December 5, 2015
Truthers accusing Carlee Soto, the sister of slain teacher Vicki Soto, of being a “crisis actor” have been posting her name, birth date and address on Instagram. “Crisis actor” is a term used by conspiracy theorists who believe the massacre at the elementary school was staged by the government as pretense for taking away guns. Twenty small children and six school staffers were killed in the attack. Vicki Soto died heroically, shielding her students.
Family members of Vicki Soto have been harassed since the massacre, but told Raw Story it’s never gone to the extent of having addresses posted online.
Instagram users are sharing a post that reveals contact and family information, including names of Soto’s mother, siblings and husband, and their social media user names.
“The Dox Of All Doxes!” the post reads. “The whole world is wondering about this girl who pops up on every major attack around the world. She has been on every media around the world crying her eyes. She have raised too many question amongst everyone. It was time to finally put an end to it and reveal everything about her. I want her to remember my name… for the rest of her life. She have been Exposed. Make this Viral.”
It then shows Carlee Soto’s home address, and says “Enjoy family.”
Apparently the reason behind this is the unshakable belief by certain people that Carlee Soto is an actress who has played the grieving survivor at a number of mass shooting scenes, all in an elaborate attempt by President Obama to take guns away from the American people.
Of course Snopes has already debunked this bizarre conspiracy, going so far as to identify each INDIVIDUAL girl in the above graphic. But nothing seems to deter these folks from clinging to their absolute faith that the government and anti-gun crowd are trying to pull a fast one.
You know the thing that really irritates me about this kind of thing, besides of course the revealing of personal information, is that it undermines actual skulduggery that takes place, like Palin faking her last pregnancy.
Do you know when I was interviewed by The Anchorage Press five years ago they started off the interview by asking me what other conspiracy theories I believed in?
And that essentially set the tone for the entire article, which was, as you might imagine, far from fair and balanced.
That is the problem with these people who are open to believing every far fetched, fact free, assertion made by their crazy aunt on Facebook or Twitter.
There ARE actually some conspiracies to fool the American people, the lead up to the Iraq War was one of them, but once you slap the label of "conspiracy theory" on them (Such as "Trig Truther.), and categorize them along with these outlandish claims, then people simply stop listening despite whatever evidence you might bring to the table.
(P.S. By the way has anybody else noticed that Snopes has never delivered a ruling on Palin's pregnancy? Interesting, don't you think?
Give up the whole silly Trig truth crap. If there were anything to it, stuff would've come out years ago. Palin's general stupidity and gun control are much more important ussues. At this stage, who really cares about Trig other than the Palin obsessed?
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DeleteI will never give up my desire to see her pregnancy charade exposed.
DeleteIt was the foundation of her original popularity (she "walked the walk"), and it was apparent if you took time to study and think about the evidence---namely photos before and shortly AFTER birth---, that she was NOT. That, and numerous fishy details like what hospital and why a teen-age Levi was photographed cuddling that newborn in a hospital in 2008.
That lie has to be exposed: it is the cornerstone of all the other lies & hypocrisy of her "political" life. All will crumble if only the false pregnancy can be shown to be a YUUUGE hoax.
DeleteShe loves it when people like you -- 6:49 -- give up. If we don't keep at it, she will have won.
She has blood on her hands being a dangerous no-nothing spokesperson for the NRA, the Tea Party Congress, all right-wing media, Christianists and every candidate of the GOP who incite domestic violence against PP's false video charade, etc.
...and don't call out the Fascism of Trump, gaining ground daily in America. It has happened before and can happen again.
The Republican party now owns this violence.
They exploit it to cause chaos and fear -- always good for ignorant votes in an election year and fall right into ISIS's hands when they do.
If there were anything to it, stuff would've come out years ago.
DeleteAnyone who accepts that Sarah Palin personally gave birth to Trig must also accept that the "wild ride" was a fake. Anyone trying to board a long-distance flight looking as she did in the Gusty photo would have been barred. The protruding belly (whether hers or a fake) would have required a seatbelt extender (you've seen one if you've ever seen a flight attendant demonstrate fastening a seat belt), ensuring the attention of flight staff.
Those who accept that Sarah Palin is not the biological mother of Trig have no problem with this, since the "empathy belly" presumably worn at the Texas meeting need not have been worn for the flight. Others need to explain how she got from the Texas meeting to Anchorage with (a) the flight attendants testifying that a passenger they accepted as being Sarah Palin showed no signs of being pregnant, and (b) a fan who saw a person he accepted as being Sarah Palin in a SeaTac transit lounge stating that he saw no sign of her being pregnant. Possible explanations include the person on the flight being a ringer, and Sarah having already delivered prior to the flight, but it's up to the Sarah-believers to provide an explanation of how she got from Texas to Anchorage, not us.
Ted shut the hell up and go drink your metamusil.
DeleteGood points Ted. 6:49 give it up. You are the silly one. 12:24, you just posted at 6:49 we know your delusions.
DeleteSomebody needs to burp Ted and put him to bed.
DeleteAnonymous 12:24 PM and 6:18 PM:
DeleteTed shut the hell up and go drink your metamusil.
Somebody needs to burp Ted and put him to bed.
Somebody doesn't know how to spell "metamucil"—and can't find any flaw in what I posted. Somebody is clinging to cherished beliefs, but can't think of anything to write in support of them. Somebody is like a monkey in the zoo, flinging feces at visitors. Somebody is a coward, afraid to put even a handle, let alone his or her name, on their monkeylike insults. Somebody who would not even get a response, except that I'm putting off making breakfast. Somebody who perhaps, like the hagfish, has a skull, but definitely has no spine.
Ted off his meds again^.
DeleteTed off his meds again^
DeleteNo, just "putting off making breakfast" as already noted. Somebody can't read … with comprehension.
Victimized twice, by their fellow citizens, not the foreign terrorists they are all so afraid of. In their fear they terrorize victims.
ReplyDeleteWe live in a country with mass mental illness, and they are armed to the teeth.
Mildred
I don't think I ever took any of the 'truther' stuff seriously. I had no idea. I feel so sorry for the families. Why do their lives have to be turned in to a living hell? Mass mental illness is right!
DeleteI think that is what the NRA wants, Mildred. People in the US to be armed to the teeth and then when and if the economy crashes for the people to rise up and overthrow the government and make Kochs king. There will be a civil war and brothers will kill brothers just like 160+ years ago.
DeleteDid I just think up a new conspiracy? :)
This poor woman was assaulted by a truther not long ago, in a public place.
DeleteNo. People are sheep and puppets of strong, fear-inciting men & women. If you don't learn from history, you end of repeating it...
DeleteAs far as conspiracies go, Trig's DNA is meaningless. Why don't you protect him in the same way you protect other Palin kids and especially tangentially related people? Are the Johnstons entitled to more privacy than Trig?
ReplyDeleteAlicia.
DeleteUmm, what?
DeleteYou need to google alaskagov.com. It says right there that the Johnstons are entitled to more privacy than Trig. If you'd do a little research, you'd know these things and wouldn't have to ask such ignorant questions.
Maybe you need to realize how crazy this obsession with Trig's birth makes you look. I don't think that you have a very realistic idea about that. I don't blame them for asking what other conspiracy theories you subscribe to. It is a valid question.
ReplyDeleteAnother valid question is why Sarah Palin's story of criminally risking the life of a premature Down Syndrome baby was not the focus of attention during the election of 2008.
DeleteSarah Palin says she boarded a transcontinental flight after an amniotic fluid leak without a medical check for a premature Down Syndrome baby when she was high risk (over 40, 7th pregnancy, history of miscarriage) and then avoided a neonatal intensive care equipped hospital to supposedly be induced to give birth in a small hospital not even rated to handle twins and attended by doctor that rarely attends births and is not not qualified for high-risk deliveries.
It's a valid question to ask why Sarah Palin boasts of her activities that night. She is either insane or lying. Both of those should have INSTANTLY eliminated her from candidacy for vice-president alongside an old medically fragile John McCain.
7:06 is content with Sarah Palin's story. It's a valid question to wonder any reasonable person would be content with that story.
7:06 is content with Sarah Palin's story. It's a valid question to wonder any reasonable person would be content with that story.
DeleteBecause it's one of the Palins?
According to a comment on the Sandy Hook story someone suggested the family get a hold of the group Anonymous to help them.
ReplyDeleteAn updated comment from a family member said
that Anonymous got a hold of them and will be helping to get this harassment stopped.
Fabulous.
DeleteWhile I don't agree with Anonymous 100% they hold a higher percentage than any other group in my book.
I hope they give these truthers 10 fold the misery they have caused this family. Full exposure and maybe some major computer viruses and other nasty hacks.
Everyone who believes that Trig came from Sarah's dried up loins is crazy. She is a first-class liar, among other things. She tried to take over our country with her Supermom crap, and MANY of us still do care. You know what happens when you pull that little string on your favorite sweater? It all unravels and the whole sweater is ruined. That is what we "truthers" are waiting to see. The great unraveling. And what is wrong with wanting to know the TRUTH? Apparently, you "untruthers" either don't care about the truth, or you have a vested interest in keeping the charade alive.
ReplyDeleteThe Palin selection tells us smart people that there are puppetmasters behind the scenes that we really need to expose.
Any of this sinking in yet?
JJ
When you say 'everyone' JJ... you need to understand, nobody but the Palin obsessed (like yourself) could give two shits about her or her politics, or anything about her anymore. The world stopped caring about 6 years ago or more. The world moved on. Is this sinking in yet?
DeleteIf Sarah didn't give birth to Trig, Joe McGinnis would have gotten to the bottom of it. Sadly, you are no Joe McGinnis. Frankly I don't believe for one second you are even pro-choice.
ReplyDeleteTrig truthers?... aren't you all Bristol birthers now? lol. Because that is important.
ReplyDeleteBristol's truth is obvious she planned a quickie wedding and suspicions were confirmed by her that she was pregnant. Yes, people speculate who the father of this baby is considering their history of lying and grandiose exaggerations.
DeleteWell, Gryphen you will see if you hit a nerve with the last part of the above post. How many people will be encouraging you to drop your crusade of proving what a fraud Sarah Palin is by faking that last "pregnancy."? I do agree, somewhat, with the theory that the time to prove it was 7 years ago when it was fresh news. Nobody cares about Sarah Palin anymore and that is a good thing. I would like to see her get her comeuppance, however. How does that happen without courageous witnesses such as doctors, nurses, social service adoption workers coming forward to substantiate your claims? I know that I wouldn't jeopardize my means to make a living just to bring down a stinking Palin and have them come back on me.
ReplyDeleteTL;DR:
DeleteIn short, pick your battles. Your beliefs regarding Trig are on the record, until and unless new info comes out, nothing will change. In the meantime, you're not going to earn credibility by continually pushing this.
Lol, of course the 'must have hit a nerve' post...
DeleteThe guy publishing Ms. Soto's sister's personal information on instagram sounds like an illiterate. Maybe he/she is a foreigner just trying to get attention?
ReplyDeleteOr maybe he's a stupid American just trying to get attention.
DeleteHa Ha you don't have to leave this country to find mass quantities of illiterate Americans!
Delete"Foreigner"? Most of the rest of the world speaks fluent English. Embarrassing.
Mildred
Today I was looking at Facebook and someone posted a link about how Pearl Harbor was an inside job orchestrated by FDR and Churchill.
ReplyDeleteActually, I heard that on a PBS documentary about WWII. FDR supposedly had advance warning and allowed it to happen, knowing the reluctant Americans would back our going to war, if we were attacked. Sound familiar? Bush 9-11?
DeletePearl Harbor Day... what a perfect day for "Sailor" to be born!
DeleteFDR didn't orchestrate the attack, but he was notified before had. There is plenty of evidence documenting that fact.
DeleteIf you wish to believe a fringe theory, 11:20, that's your right, but please but "evidence" in quotes.
Delete"The Pearl Harbor advance-knowledge conspiracy theory is the argument that American government officials had advance knowledge of Japan's December 7, 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor. Ever since the Japanese attack there has been debate as to how and why the United States had been caught off guard, and how much and when American officials knew of Japanese plans for an attack.[1][2] In September 1944, John T. Flynn,[3] a co-founder of the pro-isolation America First Committee,[4] launched Pearl Harbor revisionism when he published a forty-six page booklet entitled The Truth about Pearl Harbor.[3]
Several writers, including journalist Robert Stinnett,[5] retired U.S. Navy Rear Admiral Robert A Theobald,[6] and Harry Elmer Barnes[7] have argued various parties high in the U.S. and British governments knew of the attack in advance and may even have let it happen or encouraged it in order to force America into the European theatre of World War II via a Japanese–American war started at "the back door".[8][9] Evidence supporting this view is taken from quotations and source documents from the time[10] and the release of newer materials. However, the Pearl Harbor advance-knowledge conspiracy is considered to be a fringe theory and is rejected by most mainstream historians.[11][12][13]". Wikipedia.
Liz I - Wikipedia is not "evidence" either.
Deletehttp://www.ibiblio.org/pha/myths/ Pearl Harbor conspiracy theories debunked.
DeleteWow. Anonymous 7:26 (both) is sooo clever.
ReplyDeleteNo, YOU'RE the clever one. Yes you are, yes you are. Who's a clever boy? You are!
DeleteGood boy.
Posting private information on the internet like that is an act of terrorism. Domestic terrorism. Even Alex Jones isn't that stupid.
ReplyDeleteIf Anonymous has agreed to help the victims of this terrorism, so much the better. It's a shame when the only JUSTICE in this country comes from a group of hackers...
And Jon Stewart.
DeleteNoticed on a recent Palin post, one of Gryphen's sycophants posted Palin's Scottsdale address. So Gryphen terrorist?
Delete2:18 I'm the one who followed up and posted the Palin Scottsdale address.
DeleteIt's a matter of public record and she is a public person. It also is the location of the "Family Business" so that makes it fair game to publish.
If you'll look at the link I gave you'll see all that information is right there.
Businesses aren't allowed the same privacy as individuals.
Also, too, I'm glad that you noticed my post!
2:18 Ps, and also, too.
DeleteI'm not a Gryphen sycophant and am actually a registered Republican in Alaska, and I'm sick of him attacking all people with any sort of religious or spiritual leanings.
However, I read and comment here regularly as I, too, watched Sarah get promoted beyond her skill level and learned more than I wanted to know about how politics really works thanks to her and John McCain.
It's his blog, he can do what he wishes and I appreciate his efforts, though I quite often just skim over large portions.
I have learned tons about pop culture and sex and social media by reading Gryphen's posts and everyone's comments.
Final comment about Palin's Scottsdale address. (I swear!)
DeleteThe way I found out what the address was was by our friend Mr. Google. It is listed in many, many articles and news stories posted at that time, so, no, I didn't reveal any secret, private info of a private person.
If I had, it would have been unintentional and I would feel really bad. Because I have a conscious and I care.
the Merchantizationers of DOUBT create the Chaos we live in everyday. Confuse and isolate, then control. For every lie, a tiny bit of TRUTH lies deeper. Sandy Hook is and was REAL. We accept living in a RUSE, it is all a diversion. Shame on us.
ReplyDeletePULVERIZED kindergarten children. PICTURE THAT.
DeleteAs for the pics, I can't tell since all you white people look the same to me.
ReplyDeleteOkay, enough sarcasm. But when are we going to start holding these rightwing extremists responsible for their hate rhetoric?
Progressives already do. It's the right-wing regressives that must step up to condemn the hate rhetoric, and until they do, they are responsible for domestic terrorism, as if they had pulled the trigger themselves.
Delete@Barbara,
DeleteI am talking legally.
11:18 -- I'm with you. :D
DeleteFactCheck.org addressed the pregnancy hoax twice. The first article, Sept 16,2008, introduced the Gusty 4/13/08 photo and discussed Bristol's pregnancy with Tripp.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.factcheck.org/2008/09/muting-the-mommy-melodrama/
Their 2nd article illustrates Gryphen's point about how fact-free theories erode credibility. It was based on 1) posting the Gusty 4.13.08 KTVA interview video to debunk palindeception blog's 'proof' that the Andrea Gusty's still photo was photoshopped and 2) claiming Tripp's birth debunked the cover-up theory.
I wrote to factcheck.org about the 2nd article, calling them out on their illogical conclusion. Palin could, in fact, have faked a pregnancy whether or not the child was Bristol's and in spite of her appearance on 4/13/08.
I can no longer find the 2nd article on their site and hope someone will share a link if you have it. I don't recall whether IM covered the 2nd article and don't see a tag to help me search.
Why don't they ask this cousin and Britta Hanson. Both were in on it all and paid off since the beginning. How hard is it to get them into a deposition? All these people are like Bristol and would love to lie under oath.
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Anonymous 2:18 - You missed the point about fact-free conspiracy theories and are part of the problem. There's zero evidence of Britta or any cousin (of any of the Palin children/relatives) being 'in on it all' or being paid off. Also, the pregnancy hoax wasn't illegal so it's a reach to mention depositions.
DeleteLol deposition for what exactly? Has some crime been commited? Is someone suing someone for damages over something? You are an Idiot 2:18. It always amazes how little liberals understand legalities, protections, laws, the functions and limitations of government.
DeleteEverytime there is a terrorist attack,conservatives start wailing and knashing their teeth that Obama is coming for their guns. Then they run out and buy more guns and ammo. It's getting boting. Each time I hear that, I ask when was the last time thr gubmint knocked on their door and demanded their guns? This BS has been going on since the 1960's. Convincing gunnutz they don't have anything to fesr is like teaching Sarah Palin enough so that she could raise her IQ from 83 to 85. It can't be done.
ReplyDeleteThe conspiracy theorists and false-flag people used to be on the fringe. They're more dangerous now with some GOP presidential candidates wooing them. Posting personal data is beyond disgusting.
ReplyDeleteYet, it happens here, weekly. People post "Alicia's" full name, address and parents names. It disgusts me that some of our own IMers think that is OK and Gryphen allows it. We need to cry foul, when that happens. We are better than that.
DeleteThank you, 12:02. Gryphen will protect his so-called "sources" but then does nothing while others dox this Alicia person. I suspect it's his sources who are the ones doing that & Gryphen knows it.
DeleteDoxing is posting things that can't be found by a google search...like bank records, etc.
DeleteThat is the true definition of doxing.
Let's be clear.
I have seen several news stories of people faking cancer for attention and/or money. Isn't that what SP is doing with Trig? Using his birth and D.S. to gain attention, admiration and eventually donations? How does HIPPA apply to the people trying to pull off a medical deception?
ReplyDeleteHIPAA is waived in incidences of fraud. Akso issues of national security.Palin's hoax qualifies for both waivers.
DeleteAll this info available on HIPAA website
If she's accepting that free health care for Alaskan Natives and Tri-G isn't one, that's fraud isn't it?
DeleteRemember that Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlin (where the Oregon Community College shooting took place) is a Sandy Hook denier. Wonder what he would think if people started denying the reality of the Community College shooting?
ReplyDeleteThat's because that asswipe is also an Oath Keeper.
DeleteRemember Cliven Bundy? Yep. It was the Oath Keepers that took the stand against the BLM on Bundys' behalf.
Snopes? Snopes?
ReplyDeleteRightwingnutjobs think Snopes is part of The Big Conspiracy.
No shit. I have a close family member who is into guns, motorcycles, burying ammo in the backyard in anticipation of Obama declaring martial law, supporting Trump/Palin-2016 . . . he refuses to consider anything coming from Snopes because Snopes is part of the Great Liberal Lies.
Fortunately he just pleaded guilty to several counts of possession of child porn, so, he's going away for quite a while.
Cool! Hope he likes his cellmate.
DeleteSnopes probably hasn't weighed in on the subject because the best they would be able to do is mark it as "Inconclusive".
ReplyDeleteWe know better.
I rather remembered the Anchorage Press as quite an open-minded little rag.
ReplyDeleteI guess not. Anyone looking at the pictures of Sarah Palin in the month before she "birthed" Trig Palin can clearly see she didn't gestate any baby in that time.
Christian Publisher Prints Tell-All Book From ‘White House Chef’ Who Never Worked At White House
ReplyDeletehttp://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/12/07/christian-publisher-prints-tell-all-book-from-white-house-chef-who-never-worked-at-white-house/
Nancy is probably working on Sarah or Bristol's next book right now. Bristol is far more political that Sarah these days.
Fox News Personalities – Stacey Dash and Lt. Col. Ralph Peters – Suspended for Telling the Truth about Obama
Sarah is busy reinventing herself as a future televangelist. She'll prayer for you for a small donation.
DeleteI gave birth four times and have worked with medically fragile infants and families. Each pregnancy is different, but Sarah's pregnancy seemed to change drastically from day to day.
ReplyDeleteShe shot straight up in bed, knowing she was in labor, and she called her doctor, who said "Meh, stay in the lower forty eight and do your energy speech - I'm a pro, you'll do fine! Then hop on two planes, passing who knows how many nicu hospitals, then invite your eldest daughter's boyfriend to visit you in the hospital. The woman bent down, in late third stage pregnancy, scratched her skaly ankles at the governor's meeting, whining about Hillary's perceived whine. She wrote that she hopped in a kayak to try to induce one of her brood to be born on the fourth of July.
Who Does That?
Why would someone do that?
She was gunning for vp of a president who had melanoma, one heartbeat away, and we'd be sending missionaries around the world with Jill and Jessa while doing cameos on the new show.
In other words, Trig didn't happen the way she says, no way, no how.
So what?
DeleteSo once you expose one big honkin' LIE, others follow.
DeleteReally mlaiupa? How many years now?
DeleteBwahahaha
ReplyDeleteDecember 7, 2015, a day which Sarah Palin will never forget!
The Alaska Senate Democrats are hiring political blogger Jeanne Devon as their new press secretary, following the high-profile resignation of the aide who previously had the job.
http://www.adn.com/article/20151207/senate-democrats-choice-new-press-secretary-mudflats-political-blogger
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lolol: http://www.themudflats.net/archives/44394
"The Naked Baker Must Go
If you are a Mudflats reader, you know him as The Naked Baker. Bill Stoltze may have earned his moniker by his unfortunate hobby of baking cookies for charity auctions in the nude, but sadly this is not the most horrifying thing about this Alaska legislator.
Stoltze figured heavily into the book I co-authored, “Blind Allegiance to Sarah Palin” (with Frank Bailey and Ken Morris, Simon & Schuster, 2011), for something worse. He was the force behind the coordination of the 2006 Sarah Palin for Governor campaign, and the Republican Governor’s Association then headed by Mitt Romney. Sounds important, like something you’d put on a resume, except for one thing – it’s illegal."
not impressed.
DeleteI maintain the belief it was Jeanne's duty to promote and not shutdown babygate.
She acted cowardly in my opinion.
Alaskans failed us...bigtime.
This is a case when the tat needs to be titted.
ReplyDeleteWhoever is exposing these poor people needs in turn to be exposed. Photo, all personal details and then exposed as the crazy they are with all of the debunked information.
No one is safe from these tin foil beanies whackos. They won't believe they're wrong. So they need all of their info, etc. posted with the rebuttal to make sure anyone that sees it knows who to believe and who is a right wing conspiracy nutjob. (That is probably also a Trump supporter.)
If only Anonymous would step in and do it. I would but I don't have the skills.