Tuesday, January 26, 2016

A father and son are killed in a shootout with another father and son in a gun store in Mississippi. Everybody feel safe yet?

Courtesy of the Sun Herald:  

A father and son were killed in a shootout with another man and his son at a gun store Saturday in Pearl River County's Henleyfield community. 

Pearl River County deputies responding to the shooting on Mississippi 43 about 3:15 p.m. found the store owner and his son dead in the store, Chief Deputy Shane Tucker said. 

The owner's wife was working at the store when two customers, a man and his son, entered to pick up a firearm that had been repaired. 

"There was some contention about a $25 fee," Tucker said. 

In an attempt to clear up the dispute, the woman called her husband, who later arrived with his son. An argument ensued between the owners and the customers. 

"During this argument, we believe there might have been some pushing and shoving," Tucker said. "One of the customers and one of the owners produced firearms. We don't know who shot first." 

All four men were shot. The two customers were airlifted to a hospital with life-threatening injuries, Tucker said.

Boy there's nothing like the presence of firearms to turn a simply argument over money into an opportunity for homicide.

Just another day in the NRA's America.


  1. 66gardeners4:06 AM

    "Well, if this had been a knife store, or a baseball bat store, or even a Vermont Teddy Bear store, the assailants would have killed the store owners with: knives, baseball bats, or Vermont Teddy Bears. Let me clarify - it is very possible to suffocate two adults with a teddy bear. And it's tragic when that does happen. So should we restrict ownership of stuffed play toys?"

    - Wayne LaPierre, NRA Executive Vice President - commenting on the gun store event in Mississippi

    1. You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding. That sociopathic moron LaPierre couldn't have used such an incredibly stupid analogy, could he?

      Could one person suffocate another with a teddy bear? Sure. But a) it would not be instant; intended victim #1 would have time to fight back and possibly win and b) the likelihood that intended victim #2 would wait patiently for their turn to be killed is pretty much non-existent. The same goes for knives, baseball bats, or any number of other weapons.

      The fact is that the presence of guns made it much much easier for that argument to escalate and result in fatalities.

    2. Anonymous5:26 AM

      I actually had to gravely consider whether he really said this. Dog knows he's capable of it.

    3. Anonymous5:36 AM

      Wow, how ignorant is that guy. Or how ignorant does he believe his supporters are? Very ignorant I suppose, and he knows they are ignorant or he would not have said something like that.

      The men CAME WITH THEIR GUNS. No matter if it were a pizza place or ice cream parlor, the people all had guns, and they used them.

    4. 66gardeners6:55 AM

      Honestly, I saw this as part of a comment in another article. Don't know if it is true. The simple fact that it is believable made me want to repeat it here.

      Does anybody here know if Wayne has spoken out about this yet? I haven't looked.

      At this point, what difference does it make?

  2. Anonymous4:11 AM

    Prior to 1996, the Center for Disease Control funded research into the causes of firearm-related deaths. After a series of articles finding that increased prevalence of guns lead to increased incidents of gun violence, Republicans sought to remove all federal funding for research into gun deaths.

    In 1996, Republican Rep. Jay Dickey removed $2.6 million from the CDC budget — the precise amount the CDC spent on gun research in 1995 — at a time when the center was conducting more studies into gun-related deaths as a "public health phenomenon," according to The New York Times. The NRA and some pro-gun Congressmen perceived this as more of an attack.

    Here's an excerpt of a 1997 article in Reason about the fight to kill gun science:

    Since 1985 the CDC has funded scores of firearm studies, all reaching conclusions that favor stricter gun control. But CDC officials insist they are not pursuing an anti-gun agenda. In a 1996 interview with the Times-Picayune, CDC spokeswoman Mary Fenley adamantly denied that the agency is "trying to eliminate guns."

    At the behest of the NRA, Congressional Republicans successfully removed all federal funding to the Center for Disease Control that would have gone into researching the effect of guns and the root causes of gun violence.

    1. Anonymous5:22 AM

      ''Anonymous 4:11 AM
      Prior to 1996, the Center for Disease Control funded research into the causes of firearm-related deaths. After a series of articles finding that increased prevalence of guns lead to increased incidents of gun violence, Republicans sought to remove all federal funding for research into gun deaths.''
      It's becoming clear that Repubs are the degenerates of the country.

    2. Anonymous7:53 AM

      5:22 the word DEMISE might fit too.

    3. It should be noted that studies are still being done, but mostly by universities. And because they are not government studies they are discredited as unreliable.

      And of course, there are no government studies.

      The NRA has a lot to answer for. Going way back before Sandy Hook.

      This is the first chink Obama should have addressed; returning funding for government research and studies on guns and violence.

  3. cletus bundy4:13 AM

    Wolf with dentures kills 5 sheep; sheep ban dentures.

    Mr. President, stop being a hypocrite and do the one thing that will actually save lives. Ban the sale of Alcohol after 10pm. More people are killed each day from drunk drivers then all gun crime combined. I know the majority of Americans are hypocrites and love to look down their nose at the AR15, but lets be honest and real. We all know someone that is a drunk and has driven, or hit their kids, or abused someone. Not even 1% of gun crime is caused with a semi-auto rifle.

    Why isn't your priority to do the one thing that will actually stop the abuse and murder of 1000's of children each year? That's right, you love your wine more then a redneck loves his guns.

    1. Anonymous5:12 AM

      Actually, it's people who love guns who kill other people with guns. And I might note that all the really psychotic shootings seem to be white guys with guns (just an observation).
      Our president does a hell of a lot for children, education, veterans, public health, AND he still has time to address gun violence.
      Only imbeciles live in a binary world and believe that one action precludes all others, so now that you have falsely characterized the gun problem, the president's ability to solve problems, and the solution to the sick obsession with guns in this country, I would say you are probably spent for the rest of the next week- remember, in your world, only one thought at a time is possible!

    2. Anonymous5:30 AM

      @Anonymous 5:12 AM

      Don't waste you key strokes trying to explain things to a ignorant troll.

    3. That is some really just stupid logic. Laws, regulations, and punishments regarding drunk driving have grown stricter and stricter over the years resulting in decreasing deaths and injuries. Maybe your 10 pm suggestion would be really helpful in decreasing alcohol-related deaths and injuries even more.

      Using that same logic, by all means, let's start regulating guns and gun owners the way we regulate driving and drivers. Right? Because you are all about decreasing any and all preventable deaths, right?

      It's not an either/or situation, you know. We can take aim at alcohol-related deaths and injuries *and* gun-related deaths and injuries.

    4. Anonymous5:34 AM

      No alcohol sales after 10:00 PM is the cure? You are one special kind of stupid.

    5. 66gardeners6:58 AM

      I confess. That is an actual comment I saw in the Washington Post version of this story.

      WOW, I know! Don't know if the person who wrote this was serious. Again, it seemed to believable that I had to repeat it here.

      When conservatives say they want "common sense" policies, my first thought is "well, why use common sense now?, haven't use been using it until now?"

    6. Anonymous8:00 AM

      There are several states where gun deaths have exceeded car crash deaths. It was a very recent article, like within the last week. I think it was on HuffPo

  4. Boscoe4:24 AM

    An armed society is a polite society. -The dead don't tend to be very aggressive.

  5. cletus bundy4:30 AM

    Day mispeled Murica

  6. Anonymous4:35 AM

    Wow, this is just un-frickin-believable.
    This country is the Wild West. No law and order, where people settle disputes with their guns.

    The woman should have called the police, instead of her husband and son. That was her fatal misstate. The police might have deescalated the situation with no deaths.

  7. Anonymous4:51 AM

    Second Amendment 'Murica...nothin my dumbass can't solve without a gun. Doh!

  8. Anonymous5:34 AM

    I cant think of a better example of $$$ affecting our elections and policyies resulting in thousands of our neighbors deaths. The WHOLE world is watching and is astounded by all of this behaviour. I too am embarrassed and this is my country.

  9. Anonymous5:55 AM

    Wayne LaPierre gives a shootout to Mississippi citizens when asked his opinion on gun violence.

    1. He just banged out a few words.

  10. Anonymous7:09 AM

    Guns and cars.

    Tell your kids not to unload a gun unless they are full NRA members.


  11. Someone was either protecting or defending with their second amendment rights.

    So it's all good ya see.

    1. Too cheap ass to pay their bill.

      In other words, typical something for nothing Republican.

  12. My relatives in the Laurel area of MS use to drive around with loaded guns sitting on the seat next to them in their vehicles. When we drove there from California people would drive by pointing guns at my dad due to the CA license plate. One night us kids were asleep and the station wagon suddenly sped up, he was running from someone who pulled next to the car and aimed a gun right at him. The next trip they decided to stop before entering the deep south and rent a car. Guns are used irresponsibly in the culture and people in that state are dirt poor and feel powerless. Guns are equated with power and equality rather than being viewed as a dangerous tool that needs to be used safely.

    1. Anonymous10:31 AM

      As someone who goes RV'ing, I think I'll avoid Mississippi

  13. Frosty11:38 AM

    Too bad all 4 weren't removed from the gene pool.

  14. Anonymous12:28 PM

    I'm having trouble feeling any empathy.

  15. Anita Winecooler4:08 PM

    I'm all for male bonding and fathers and sons going to sports, movies, etc. But I draw the line at gun shops.
    ""During this argument, we believe there might have been some pushing and shoving," Tucker said. "One of the customers and one of the owners produced firearms. We don't know who shot first."

    Does alleged pushing and shoving somehow mitigate the fact that the customers are dead? These idiots are making me seriously re think my position on the death penalty.


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