Michael R. Bloomberg has instructed advisers to draw up plans for a potential independent campaign in this year’s presidential race. His advisers and associates said he was galled by Donald J. Trump’s dominance of the Republican field, and troubled by Hillary Clinton’s stumbles and the rise of Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont on the Democratic side.
There is no way that this does not hurt Hillary more than the GOP nominee.
If I were the DNC I would make any deal I could to keep Bloomberg out of this race.
Let him come. Another billionaire who has more money than common sense. Lets see if he has time to get on the ballots. If democrats wanna do another Nader, they deserve everything they get---which will be Trump (which truthfully ---no one deserves).
ReplyDeleteBloomberg is GOP. Still, he'd draw some votes away from Clinton. The big question is whether he'd hurt the GOP candidate more.
DeleteNader is not a conservative, but Bloomberg is a conservative.. So Bloomberg is not another Nader, and he will not hurt the Democrats, he will hurt the Repubs.
Delete3:08 - I totally agree with you! He would split the GOP vote, not the Dems,
DeleteBloomberg, now there's a corporate wall street politician.
DeleteBloomberg's running a billion dollar campaign, only strengthens Sanders stand on taking big money out of politics.
I always take issue with people who believe Nader took votes away... blah blah blah. Nader ran his own campaign and earned his own votes for people that didn't want to vote for the main party candidates. He had every right to run and people have the right to vote for whoever they want.
DeleteYou assholes don't get to control other peoples votes!
I almost never vote Democrat, and I never would have voted for Gore. So my vote for Nader really was a vote away from Bush. So stick it.
People who always vote party lines and keep this pretend 2 party system running, and everyone gets screwed.
@5:03: For those of you who have not experienced a 3-party (or more) system, here's the problem: inevitably one party will be conservative, one party will be liberal, and one party will be either ultra-con or ultra-lib. So what happens in all too many elections is that the ultra-lib or ultra-con party takes away votes from the conservative or the liberal party. And yes, that's what happened with Bush vs Gore or Nader -- you ended up with Bush. And for 11 years, we here in the GWN had to put up with the Conservative Harper. Fortunately in our most recent election, the Liberals stayed liberal, the NDP (which was habitually far-left) moved to almost the right of centre, and the cons became ultra-cons. Three or more parties are not always the panacea that some of you think it is.....And as for supporting parties -- smart voters support the policies they believe in. Stupid voters vote for the party.
Delete3-party run-isn't that how Sarah became governor?
DeletePeople who always vote party lines and keep this pretend 2 party system running, and everyone gets screwed.
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Yes, we really got screwed, we got Bush because Nadar took the votes away from Gore, so Thank you. Hope you enjoyed those 8 years under Bush.
You guys, GORE WON! Are your memories really that short????
DeleteBloomberg is a conservative all day everyday. If he jumps in the race he will damage the Repubs not the Dems.
DeleteNader took votes away from Gore, maybe not yours, but many other people's. I remember interviews where people parroted Nader's claim that Gore and Bush were the same (which was a bunch of bullshit) and they were voting 3rd party. These were liberals whose reward was an 8 year Bush presidency. Unfortunately, the rest of us liberals had to suffer for their ignorance.
DeleteNader may have taken votes from Gore, but Gore still won, by A LOT. We have Jeb Bush, Kathryn Harris, "hanging chads," and the f-ing Supremes to thank for handing it to Bush.
Delete8:59 you are a moron.
DeleteLets see.... gun control.... soda control..... control control control...... those are all liberal utopia policies. Conservatives hate Bloomberg's liberal ass. Hope he gets in the race and starts to chisel down Hillary, not that it matters since she is going to be indicted anyways, on top of the fact that she shas sheltered a serial sexual abuser .
"serial sexual abuser"? You mean like Taaahhd and Track Palin are sexual and other ways abusers?? Nobody FORCED Lewinsky tohave her daliance with Clinton, she was the instigator, even telling friends she was going to DC to earn her kneepads. She was a victim as much as Bristles was a "victim" of Levi and Duhkota. Get real, live in the moment, not years and years ago.
DeleteAnon 11:35
DeleteSerial sexual abuser?
They found out about Todd Palin!!!!!!!!!!
"Bloomberg trial balloon has Republicans laughing"
Deletehttp://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/michael-bloomberg-presidential-trial-balloon-gop-reaction-218150
Bloomberg's terms for running are: the Republican candidate is one of the clown and the Democratic candidate is Bernie Sanders. Otherwise, he's not running. He is specifically NOT running against Hilary Clinton. He does see the dangers on both sides.
DeleteDoes he want VP?
ReplyDeleteWell, he is a Republican. I don't care if he says he left the Republican party to be Independent, he IS a Republican. So if a Democrat votes for him, they're crazy.
ReplyDeleteSo is Hillary, in everything but name.
Delete@Anonymous3:09 PM
DeleteWell Hillary and Bernie are at the top, and one of them will win, the nomination for the Democratize ticket, and I will supports WHOMEVER the Democratics nominate.
Bloomberg is a conservative Repub., and I still say any Democrat who votes for him is crazy.
Hillary Clinton may be a moderate in many ways, but she's not a republican.
DeleteWith Bloomberg in the race and hissplitting everyone’s votes.
DeleteSanders will be able to win running as an independent!
I would much rather see Sanders run as an independent then a Dem, especially after the DNC's games.
Hi c4p troll. Your Hillary-bashing is really only worthwhile at your stagnant little pond. Why don't you go on back there and wait for Sarah to announce that she's bankrupt because of Willow's gambling addiction?
DeleteUuuuuummm Anon 4:08.
DeleteYour math is off. If Sanders runs as an independent the WH is going to a republican.
The dem vote will split. And Bloomberg will not be splitting anyone's vote except a few republicans.
You kid yourself if you think Bloomberg would not take a lot of Trumps vote.
DeleteThough I doubt Bloomberg can get any of Sanders socialist voters.
As Gryphon points oit Hillary will take a big hit.
That leaves Sanders scoring, for the win!
Bloomberg taking Trump votes? lol. You have to be kidding me. Bloomberg's biggest pet project is gun control.... It is all Democrat baby. Trump voters cannot stand a douchebag like Bloomberg.
DeleteBloomberg caters 100% to the utopian Democrats that don't understand the Governments job is to protect your rights, not taketh them away.
Bloomberg taking Trump votes?
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You mean those neo-nazi, white supremacist are going to vote for Bloomberg, I don't think so.
4:34 - no. Bernie & Hillary will not be on the same ballot after the primary. WAKE UP!!!!
DeleteMy 3:32 post edited:
DeleteWell Hillary and Bernie are at the top, and one of them will win the nomination for the Democratic ticket, and I will support WHOMEVER the Democrats nominate.
"Trump voters cannot stand a douchebag like Bloomberg."
DeleteThat's right. They only like douchebags like Trump.
Bloomberg is simply scared that Bernie will win and then he'll have to pay tax for the first time in his life. But running against Bernie won't weaken Bernie OR Hillary.
ReplyDeleteA Wall Street Billionaire from NYC isn't going to add anything to the mix, Trump already has the billionaire gig sewn up, there isn't enough room for two NYC billionaires with slightly differing policies.
Bloomberg needs to get his woman back to the house. He's fondling Little Mike way too much.
Bernie still has not explained, how as president, he is going to get Congress to raise taxes on the rich. He hasn't been able to do that as a senator.
DeleteUntil then, I am not feeling the Bern!!
Bloomberg is afraid of a Trump win; they all are.
Deleteanon 7:00 Bernie has explained and so have the people. Business will not be as usual, any congressman that is selling his vote or getting campaign money will be frantic to hang on to his seat....we are uniting in this revolution to vote out any corrupted slug. The republicans can continue to vote against their best interests and so can some democrats. Andrea Mitchell has said she heard that the DNC is talking about biden coming in to avoid Bernie....They are as corrupt as the republicans. They don't want to lose their perks and easy jobs to actually having to work under Bernie. but be my guest, vote against your own best interests. We will write Bernie in...we will not accept an oligarch/plutocrat as our nominee. If it goes to a republican, they were warned. Bernie has the popular vote. Try to take it away and see what happens. Militant stupidity has to end in this country. This is our political revolution to finally change things here and stop being taken advantage of the 1%ers. Hillary authorized the sale of weapons, including biological/chemical, to various countries for a donation of $100,000 + donation to the Clinton foundation, of which Chelsea now earns a $900,000 salary a year. What can she do to earn that much? It is rigged. Hillary will never stop wall st or sanction them or big pharma, or insurance corps. Why would any middle class member vote for her or a republican? Militant ignornance.
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Deleteyou are so right on. And you are not the only one who thinks like this. Let Bloomberg spend all of his cash for all I care. He ain't buying this election. It belongs to We The People.
Gotta vote for Hillary then.
ReplyDeleteNever ever ever.
DeleteTrump over Hillary if it comes down to that.
5.10, c4crap called, they found your binky.
DeleteWay to go, 5:10. You've outed yourself as a schmuck.
DeleteHowever, Chuck Todd said this afternoon, that Bloomberg has indicated that he is only considering a run if the likely GOP and Dem nominees are considered to be:
ReplyDeleteGOP - either Cruz or Trump
Dem - Bernie
If by March 1, the Dem candidate is clearly going to be Hillary, then Bloomberg does not get in.
If by March 1, any of the other GOP candidates are considered the most likely candidate, he doesn't get in.
Todd had mixed views on how this would affect the race. He said that tomorrow on MTP he will have HRC, Bernie and Trump on for interviews.
That is why I would make any deal I could to have Hillary removed from the race.
DeleteSounds like a typical tycoon manipulating people to get his way.
DeleteMildred
LOL 3.36 The lady is going nowhere. Sorry.
DeleteWell if she gets indicted 3:36, your wishes might come true. It is seeming more likely every day.
Delete5:12, What would the charges be for the indictment? Has a federal grand jury been hearing testimony on anything? If so, what is the subject matter under question? What information do you have that makes this seem more likely every day? What did you know on say Thursday, Jan 21 and what more do you know today, Sat Jan 23?
DeleteYeah, I thought so.
Since the trolls have all but abandoned this site, is that you Sarah????? 5:12 pm.....Sarah, did you wake up? Is your mind clear... have an Ensure and see if your thinking clears.
You wish 5.12, you just wish. Keep on wishing, I'm sure she draws strength from Haters like you.
Delete@ 3:09 yes I read an article today that stated the same thing.
DeleteI can't find the link right now.
Any day, huh?
DeleteHP has an article that states that the plutocrats are working to do something to keep Bernie out. They are afraid and they should be. The money men said they are happy with Hillary or Jeb. So if any of you think that HIllary will do anything....you live in a parallel universe with little reality.
DeleteIt is what he will do and he has outlined that on his site.....some of you are like palin, you say a lot of bs and accusations but never go to the source and factcheck anything...just wild speculation.
Delete10:14---Oooh! Huffington Post has an article!! It must be true!
DeleteWell, at least you can read. So there's that.
If history is any indicator, Bloomberg doesn't have a chance of winning the White House.
ReplyDeleteI doubt he could win any political office any more. He's an asshole.
DeleteBloomberg has a comically out-sized opinion of his popularity with voters. Ted Cruz is hated. Bloomberg is merely despised. I don't think he could get a 20,000 person rally in NYC (unless he subsidized the attendees).
ReplyDeleteHe might as well take the money and flush it down the toilet.
ReplyDeleteIsn't too late for him to run? What an ego. He does this every election and then doesn't run,
ReplyDeleteI disagree Gryphon, I think this will hurt the Republicans more than Hillary, or Sanders by splitting up the Republican votes. Trump right now has a large following from the old Tea Party supporters, and they’ll never leave Trump to vote for Bloomburg. The Republican establishment will be the ones who will vote for Bloomberg. We should be supporting the move for him to get into the Republican race. This will only be helping Clinton more if she is the one who wins the nomination.
ReplyDeleteBloomberg has been openly mocked by the conservatives for years, and many of his policies adhere closely to Democratic principles.
DeleteHe wants more gun control, he's pro-choice, and he banned trans fats and large sodas in restaurants.
There is no way he has much impact on the GOP side of the ticket.
He would run as an independent and would siphon votes from both the GOP and the Dem nominees. How the impact would be absorbed by each party is something that is going to take a lot of attention. If the media would just ignore Trump he would lose a lot of his power.
DeleteGruphen is correct. His policies and projects are 100% Democrat. No way would any Republicans vote for Bloomberg.
DeleteHere is to hoping he gets in the race and squashes old confused Hillary!
There's that troll again, busy dropping droppings all over IM. Enjoy your job while it lasts, SarahPAC will be bankrupt in 6 months and shut down by Christmas.
DeleteThen you might have to get a real job, oh no.
I disagree, the GOP is split three ways now
DeleteCruz-religious nuts
Trump-other nuts
the rest-establishment.
so if Bloomberg jumped in, he would either split it 4 ways(moderates) or the establishment would go for him.
I want to see how Trump (New Yorker) and Bloomberg ( New Yorker)play out in the south. They absolutely hate NYers
Agree with 6:32. The GOP moderates/the adults are desperate for a true choice: a candidate who's held office before. They would go to Bloomberg. They are not driven by cultural wedge issues but financial ones.
DeleteGryphen, the old guard Republicans are desperate for someone other than Trump or Cruz to be their nominee. They will gladly vote for Bloomberg even though he had some liberal policies while he was mayor. I’m sure they believe they can manipulate him if he gets elected. The “establishment” Republicans are scared that if either Trump or Cruz wins the Presidential nomination and election their party will be over.
DeleteYou really just couldn;t be any dumber could you M baker. Guaranteed. less than 1% of repuyblicans would vote for Bloomy.
Deleteany 6:04...... is Palin your entire world from from the moment you wake up till you go to bed? How fucking pathetic you are.
5:14-- "old confused Hillary"? Yet you can't even spell Gryphen's name right?
DeleteTakes one to know one, I guess.
Troll @ 11:23 is the pathetic one who has to use childish name calling and swear words to make himself feel important and smart. He’s obviously a cult member from the pond who is uninformed and under educated like most of the others in the cult. He also seems frustrated trying to express his thoughts simply by noting his use of swear words.
DeleteAccording to Chuck Todd, the drop dead date to run as a 3rd party candidate in all 50 states is March 2, Texas being the hardest to gain entry into. So, Bloomberg has to decide and announce by March 1. Apparently he is approaching this methodically and with lots of advisers. This is not a joke according to what I heard Chuck say.
ReplyDeleteWhats next? Charles and David the Koch brothers challenge Sanders for the presidency. They announce their plan is to spend two billion dollars on their presidential campaign.
ReplyDeleteTrump raises another billion, Bloomberg sees Trump and raises another hundred million.
Hillary, has Goldmann Sachs on speed dial and screams one billion two hundred million dollars. Sold to the representative of Goldmann Sachs!
Where's Sanders??? Speaking to the masses, explaining the dangers of big money influencing politics, how it is turning our economy into a game rigged for the rich!
Feel the Bern!
Trig said it first. Bullshit. Bernie's losing support, have you not noticed?
DeleteAnd it's all because his supporters are ugly. It wasn't enough for him to have all those Ron Paul Republicans "supporting" him, now he has Karl Rove "working for him". Ha!
That's a short cut back to Vermont for Bernie.
What has Bernie done in the senate to reform the tax code? Seriously I would like to know.
DeleteMaybe this is why Karl rove is trying to get Bernie to win. Bernie as the nominee would for sure make a third party more attractive to independent voters, likely handing the election to the GOP.
ReplyDeleteKarl Rove is only seeming to support Bernie because he knows that it is an opposition strategy. Bring in the weakest Dem and then one of the Klown Kar Kandidates might actually have a chance.
DeleteOh no. It won't even turn out that well. Michael Bloomberg as POTUS isn't as scary as the rest. But the real problem is, the winning candidate has to get 270 electoral votes. Otherwise, the House of Representatives decides who will be POTUS.
ReplyDeleteWell, from these 30 comments I'm seeing that conservatives and progressives are all over the place regarding support of a candidate. It will be interesting, when it actually matters. For now, it's a pretty great reality show.
ReplyDeleteDepends which candidate/s you're referring to. For a start, Bloomberg isn't a candidate.
DeleteHe's got brains and puts his money where his mouth is. Donald will have a stroke!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteIt's more likely Hillary will have one; her health has not been mentioned...what about her fainting and the dark glasses indoors...
DeleteUgh, 5:06. You smell of desperation.
DeleteThat has been debunked. I guess it's easier to drop little nuggets of shit and run away than actually do or present a little research.
@ 5:06 Since you are so concerned with Hillary's health issues then you must be terrified of Cruz and Trump's mental illness.
Delete.... And the former mayor’s aides say that he is polling his chances more out of his general disdain for the fractured Republican Party than out of any desire to challenge Clinton -- in fact if she is the nominee, they say, he is less likely to mount a bid of his own....
ReplyDeleteRead more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/michael-bloomberg-hillary-clinton-relationship-218151#ixzz3y81m0Vvi
The thing is, if it's an Rclown/Bernie/Bloomberg race, and no one gets 270 electoral votes, the House of Representatives decides who will be POTUS. Scary. Very scary.
ReplyDeleteThis certainly is a refreshing break from the uncouth thugs from Wasilla !!!
ReplyDeleteWouldn't it be funny if it turns out to be Sanders versus Bloomberg? Jew vs. Jew I'm not sure I'm ready for a president who has citizenship both in the US and in Isreal.
ReplyDeleteI take it you're being facetious about the citizenship thing.
DeleteNot at all facetious. It is appropriate as it concerns national security. The president of the USA needs to be loyal to our country only, a citizen of one country only. None of this running off to/with Israel business. It puts our best national interests and security at risk.
DeletePretty sure that Bernie sided with the President over the Iran deal, which was against what Bibi wanted. Chuck Schumer, for example, sided with Bibi. Bernie has proved his US loyalty just last year.
DeleteBernie was the first Senator to state he would boycott Bibi's address to congress.
DeleteCheck yourself. It is not appropriate.
Delete"Dual loyalty" has been the source of discrimination and violence for centuries. And not just for Jews. It put Japanese-Americans in internment camps, kept Catholics out of the White House, fueled McCarthyism, and it the current cause of discrimination against Muslim-Americans.
I'm always amazed when so-called liberals use this kind of reactionary, nationalistic rhetoric. It's like you live in a bubble without any historical or logical perspective.
Can I be the only one that, not privy to what goes on behind the scenes of a presidency, thinks it's rather comical that the replacement of President Obama has called out so many to be "the one?"
ReplyDeleteAs others, I have disagreed with plenty of what President Obama did vehemently, but no way in hell will any of them replace him and I find it humorous watching them climb all over each other in attempt to do so.
I'm sitting here watching MTP , Hillary is being interviewed and she is asked about Bloomberg entering the race and she says " He is my friend and he told me that he will not enter the race unless I do not get the nomination "
ReplyDeleteIn other words if Hillary does not get the nod her supporters are going to try and give the White House to the Republicans , Bloomberg will try to draw enough votes away from Sanders to throw the race to Republicans , I have just lost my last smidgen of respect for Hillary : (
I don’t follow your logic; I don’t see how Clinton repeating his statement is telling her supporters to vote for Bloomberg.
DeleteMaybe I missed the subliminal code telling me to vote for Bloomberg.
You must not have in your special "what Hillary really means" ear buds.
DeleteHe just endorsed "water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink" Mich. Republican Gov. Snyder!!!
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't worry about Bloomberg. He won't pull enough votes to torpedo anyone.
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