Sen. Bernie Sanders has pushed hard for transparency on U.S. trade and campaign finance, but has been far less aggressive in disclosing his own personal finances.
Now his wife and campaign confidante, Jane O'Meara Sanders, is defending the senator's decision not to file a candidate personal finance disclosure and talking about the purchase of a new vacation home.
Sanders and his campaign asked the Federal Election Commission for two 45-day extensions, in mid-May and late June, on filing the personal finance disclosures candidates are usually required to produce, and then decided not to file at all once he dropped out of the race and endorsed Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, Jane Sanders confirmed Thursday.
"I guess our campaign just said 'why bother'," said the wife of the Vermont independent senator who challenged Clinton for the Democratic nomination.
Jane Sanders went on to explain that there was really no new information about their finances to share anyway.
Speaking of no new financial information Jane also talked about that new house they purchased.
On another financial matter, Jane Sanders said she and her husband paid cash — $575,000 — for the four-bedroom summer house they recently bought in North Hero, Vermont, on the Lake Champlain shore. She said she sold her share of her family's long-time vacation home in Bridgton, Maine, to her brother for $150,000, added some money from her retirement account and from an advance her husband got on a book he is writing to come up with the money to buy the couple's third home.
They also own property in Burlington, Vermont, and Washington, D.C.
Oh so their share of the family vacation home only came to $150,000. Interesting.
In other, completely unrelated news Sanders is still accepting donations for "Our Revolution" which is scheduled to launch next week:
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) will address supporters on Aug. 24 to tout "Our Revolution," a new organization intended to harness the energy of his supporters and help progressive political candidates across the country.
The independent senator also wants to empower “the next generation of progressive leaders by inspiring, recruiting and supporting progressive candidates across the entire spectrum of government – from school board to U.S. Senate.”
Damn, I am getting such a feeling of deja vu here.
A failed campaign, a new house, a PAC dedicated to "changing politics in America." Hmm, where have I seen all of this before?
And $8 million raised for the California primary still in Sander's bank account.
ReplyDeleteAs @AlGiordano says, "What kind of person runs for US president, goes from the first caucus to the convention, raises $235 million, & avoids disclosing finances?"
How does one of the most vocal advocates of transparency avoid transparency?
Ask Obama. He certainy has mastered it.
DeleteI guess it's not too hard to avoid transparency, although Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama could never have gotten away with that. I'm glad that neither of them ever wanted to.
DeleteBeaglemom
And AGAIN - it shows all of us what a fucked up election system we have in the United States of America!
DeleteWe should all - at sometime in our lives - plan to run for a national office - lose the race - get rich and live happily ever after!
What a friggin' racket!
I don't think the charge is being made that the campaign did not follow accounting rules? Are posters claiming that they used campaign donations to buy the house? I would have to see proof of that. Campaigns have pretty strict accounting rules, quarterly IIRC.
DeleteAfter the way Bernie carried on about Hillary disclosing the transcripts of her Wall Street speeches, Bernie has a hell of a lot of nerve in this regard.
DeleteThe FEC needs to change the rules and stop the "Grifter" PACS!
DeleteNo one needs a pac unless they are running for something.
If not it is a grifter pac pure & simple as what palin has her own personal ATM!
And if they are running no extensions on tax returns etc. Show or get the fuck out of dodge!
Trump should have his ass booted for not showing his and Bernie should not have a PAC for not showing his.
Fuck these Grifter pacs!
1:48pm
DeleteHere's a thought, perhaps people need to stop being stupid and gullible enough to give their money to ANY political campaign or PAC?
That would at least send a message to the grifters (all of them) and perhaps lead to a natural demise of PACs and campaign finance shenanigans if everyone just said "Hell NO"!
Face it, anyone who donates money to any of this political process is really the root of the problem.
Face it, anyone who donates money to any of this political process is really the root of the problem.
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Like sheep to the slaughter.
Yes, 1:42, he's exactly insinuating the Sanders' bought the house with improperly used campaign funds or some other ill-gotten funds. He's among the Clinton supporters who want to see Sanders' life, career, reputation destroyed for having the temerity to challenge their chosen one. They're enraged to see Sanders and his family enjoying the blessings of liberty.
DeleteOur Revolution is a 501(c)(4) social welfare non-profit not a PAC.
DeleteGryphen wrote: Hmm, where have I seen all of this before?
ReplyDeleteThere's at least one difference. There are lots of fish in Lake Champlain!
http://www.lakechamplainregion.com/recreation/outdoors/fishing
Presumably the fish in Lake Champlain are not dead.
DeleteBeaglemom
Geologically and hydrologically speaking Lake Champlain and Lake Lucille are very different creatures formed by very different processes.
DeleteYep, Bernie and Jane are capitalists at heart.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/03/bernie-sanders-democratic-socialism/471630/
DeleteBernie Sanders may call himself a Democratic Socialist but he is more of a Social Democrat.
"In a social democracy, individuals and corporations continue to own the capital and the means of production. Much of the wealth, in other words, is produced privately. That said, taxation, government spending, and regulation of the private sector are much heavier under social democracy than would be the case under pure capitalism."
Capitalism is part of a social democracy. It exists in such "socialist" countries as those in Scandinavia.
DeleteI believe there is capitalism in Denmark. Even wealthy people who privately own companies.
One does not preclude the other.
What they are not is crony capitalists or corporatists. Something the U.S. is getting closer and closer to.
I don't know about Bernie and really don't care anymore. Jane is a greedy straight up, lying bitch.
DeleteWell, we all know that Liberals are all about guilt by association, guilty until proven innocent and hounding the hated to the grave.
DeleteYour hypocrisy is overwhelming to accuse liberals only about guilt by association and the rest of the b.s. you claimed. The GOP has been hounding Hillary and Bill Clinton for almost 3 decades! They are the most investigated and more importantly, exonerated political couple in the country.
DeletePlease name on member of the Republican Party who has been repeatedly attacked with fabricated stories, smears and innuendo as Hillary has been. They have also spent over $250M in taxpayer dollars on their hunt for something to indict her for since 1992.
I'm saying the "Liberals" on this board fall over themselves to overlook, dismiss or explain away Bill and Hillary's boils but they jump at the chance to crucify Bernie for a pimple.
DeleteBernie sure turned out disappointin'
ReplyDeleteYes indeed he did. I still like many of the things that campaign ran on, though. Bernie can suck it.
DeleteI think he did do a good deed: insert his ideas into the process, get Hill to embrace them. That was good. Important. In the late middle, I was still for him. And then he started to get petulant and small. I remembered my old beefs about him: no big accomplishments, esp not on behalf of vets.
DeleteSo his candidacy helped me see Hill better, like her more.
Of course Trump made me worship Clinton.
The day you mutter something like you "worship" any political candidate is the day you need to get your head checked.
DeleteThe day you can't see how "worship" was intended in that post is the day you need to get your IQ checked, 251p.
Delete2:51 - get a dictionary - look up hyperbole. Then look up stupid - for that all you need is a mirror.
DeleteWhat does your daughter think of you trolling Bernie supporters so much?
ReplyDeleteShe feels betrayed by him.
DeleteAnd she is beyond angry that he is undermining Democrats.
Next question?
Gryph's daughter is not the only one who feels betrayed by Sanders.
DeleteWe're beyond DONE with him. Magnets came off the car months ago. Wonder if all who donated to his past campaign, like my household did, could ask for some time-share at his newest vacay digs? We don't own any vacation houses. Just the one we live in, and it's mortgaged to the hilt.
In what way is he undermining Democrats?
DeleteBernie undermined democrats by trying to smear Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.
DeleteDebbie Wasserman Schultz didn't need any help in that regard. She did it to herself. Bernie didn't expose her but the leaks did support what he was saying. That's not his fault.
DeleteIt's not so much that many of us feel "betrayed by Sanders" we feel betrayed by the process and for that reason we won't be voting for anyone for POTUS, although my abstention won't offset the over 50 family members that I have that are voting for Trump. Which, by the way is okay with me, I just can't find it in me to vote for him but life will go on and maybe get better for lots of us, but I just don't find him "presidential".
DeleteC'est la vie. Some of his ideas are wonderful and some are hard to swallow, but I think in the end America will benefit in a lot of ways that we don't immediately recognize.
@ 2:55 - why don't you move tot the Phillipines. I hear they are having second thoughts about Duterte, aka T.Rump Jr.
Delete2:55 - you really have a dumb family. MYbe you should form your own cult.
DeleteStop bringing up gryphen's daughter. Especially since you get the same fucking answer every time.
DeleteIf Gryphen can bring up his daughter on this board and use her for discussion, so can anyone else. She's an adult. Supposedly, so is he.
DeleteYou keep asking the same phony concerned question over and over. No one's buying it.
DeleteDid all of the candidates in the Republican clown car disclose all of their financials too? Is it a legal requirement?
ReplyDeleteThe house thing has already been debunked so shame on Gryphen for continuing to stir his hate stew for no purpose whatsoever. It certainly doesn't get Hillary any votes, nor does it defeat Trump.
So..... what's the point?
That's only been "debunked" by statements from Jane Sanders.
DeleteNot by evidence, which a financial disclosure would provide.
And Sanders promised to disclose his.
Remember?
FAIL
DeleteDebunked?
Deletehttp://wapo.st/2bqPDjb
Its all over the place! Working class hero buys THIRD house! 12:18 PM
And why aren't you out running for school board or something?
Its pretty clear you've all been had. Oh and the school thing has yet to be cleared up by "Jane"! Funny she is the one being blamed for the school thing and she is the one who handles the finances!
So I suppose you're going to sit out the election? Or are you?
You Bernie bro's are as bad as Palin's teabags.
What's missing is LOLing with y'all's hard earned money like Palin did!
Oh Bernie is SO for the people! How many working class have three flippin' homes?
Hmmmm? Do you?
So most of y'all have disintegrated into insane rantings like this "Assange Describes Why Hillary's Moves Are Limitied and Already Scripted, Fabulous Video Describes How DNC Rigged the Convention Too'
aLL OF YA, ANY OF YA, KINDLY FUCK OFF!
Because YOU ARE part of the problem.
Assange is a fucking traitor and so are YOU!
Politicians promise a lot, especially while they are running for office.
DeleteWhy is Bernie being held to a separate, higher standard?
Just seems to me he is being singled out for persecution at every opportunity, substantiated or not.
Personal grudge?
Why is Bernie being held to a separate, higher standard?
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Explain.
What.
You mean.
Bernie is not being singled out. The hypocrisy of his former stance of full disclosure and transparency in politics makes him look pathetic and his supporters like stooges.
Delete1:41, I am not 12:51, but
DeleteYou.
Are.
Fucking.
Obnoxious.
My remaining beef with Bernie is he should be all-out supporting Hillary, like Hillary supported Obama. Esp when Trump looked more viable than he does right now. He should be getting rid of the bad Bernie Bro behavior. He should be doing something positive for the future.
DeleteAfter a little time off. I was getting worried about his voice breaking down toward the end.
He's being held up to his own socialist standard 12:51.
DeleteDid Bernie reimburse the campaign for the money he spent taking his family to Rome? It's against FEC regulations and was supposed to be done within 90 days.
DeleteI don't like to get involved in inter-party conflicts, but Bernie is NOT a Democrat, never was one, and never will be. That is what stuck in my craw about Bernie from the get-go. Always liked his take on things but knew he did not have "it" to go the distance. Was disappointed at his behaviour and that of certain of his followers. Now, he/Jane won't release tax information? That tells me that everything I suspected is true.
ReplyDeleteLike Maya Angelou said:"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
I agree Crystal. Brava!
DeleteRight? There are so many of us that supported Bernie that won't be casting votes for the Dem candidate, get it? We're not Dems! We were heartbroken when Bernie joined their fucking clown car.
DeleteBernie represented something or some that Hillary doesn't represent and Trump doesn't represent and basically we sit this one out and wait for 2020.
That's what freedom means, not having to vote for someone who doesn't fit your political paradigm. There's not a candidate for everyone in each election sometimes you just don't fill in that circle.
Duh, I'm not holding my nose to vote for anyone I don't agree with, my vote, my choice. Certainly you hardcore liberals should agree with that right? Oh, perhaps not because you're as hypocritical as the alt-right. Same boat, same problems, same solutions, same old same old, and when I say old, yes I mean that, you are set in your ways and just can't change, but guess what? You won't have to change because others will do it for you. Thank them later.
Anon at 3:01 pm. Obviously by opting out this November you will be showing your support of Donald Trump and all of the nastiness that a GOP-led Congress entails. Not too bright of you.
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3:23pm
DeleteNope, I'm not showing support for ANY candidate, that's what NOT voting for the Presidential ticket means.
It's illogical to say that by not voting for anyone by default I'm showing allegiance to Trump. You could just as easily say that by leaving my ballot blank I'm showing support for Hillary, which would be just as untrue as I support neither of them.
Also it has nothing to do with "being bright" but I sure do appreciate the ad hominem attack :-)
Voting is not an exercise in which ALL spots on the ballot MUST be filled regardless of whether one supports the candidate.
Voting for someone means that you support them and agree with them and would like to see them in office. Often, in local, state and national races there isn't a candidate deserving of my vote, so I leave it blank.
This year I am voting for house and Senate, two incumbents, but they've done a good job in DC. Our house race isn't until next year and our state senator is running unopposed, so no choice there.
Wow you're an idiot 3:01. We vote for the future, because we have family that will be here for far more of it - and we give a damn about them. Climate change for one. Education for two, women's rights for three. No one candidate will ever be in perfect agreement with our own views, just like no prospective marriage partner will. You want a clone of you, you go run for office and vote for yourself. Since you not and not participating - get the fuck out of the way and shut the hell up.
Delete3:01 is like Trump: ego above all!
DeleteAh, the tried and true Gryphen approved method to woo the Bernie supporters.
DeleteHow's that working for you?
3:01pm, if you don't vote, fine. But you have no right to bitch about the outcome.
DeleteAnd if the Bernie supporters are being driven away from voting, the attackers here have no right to bitch that they didn't vote for Hillary. They've done nothing to woo their support. In fact, they've never missed an opportunity to do the exact opposite.
DeleteTrue story @ 9:44. It seems some people have done their damnedest to make Bernie supporters cringe at the thought of voting for Hills. They certainly have me. But, one thing we must remember is that they are just unimportant little dirtbags undeserving of our attention. I, for one, refuse to let the dirtbags influence my decision and may well wind up voting for Hills despite them. Thing is, it's my decision not theirs. They can kiss my arse and have my dick for dinner.
DeleteYou've been driven away? Sounds like you are a weak soul.
DeleteSanders should have remained Independent. Americans should concentrate on trump and Clinton disclosures now.
ReplyDeleteNo one would have paid any attention to him. Less than Johnson or Stein.
DeleteLet it go and focus on the election. This is getting old.
ReplyDelete"Let it go"
DeleteWell now, that is a fine way to address Bernie's faux revolution that he is still sucking $$$$ to fund.
I think it's pretty obvious it's not the revolution that needs letting go.
DeleteIt's the tedious and pointless Bernie bashing that is sucking the energy out of this election.
It doesn't get Hillary elected and it doesn't defeat Trump. It goes against what Bill Maher, Michael Moore and PRESIDENT OBAMA have asked us to do.
Bernie is bringing this all on himself. Cause and effect.
DeleteWhat REVOLUTION? There is no freakin' revolution and Sanders will likely be defeated in '18. He's writing his memoirs now, note the big advance for his book...what was it that BS supporters said about Hillary and Bill making $$$ writing books? It's forbidden for them but for St. Bernie, it's OK.
DeleteImagine how outraged the BS supporters would be if Bernie had won the nomination and after saying she would work to get him elected, she concentrated on buying a vacation home and writing a book instead? All this AFTER Bernie tries to tear the Democratic Party to pieces. Why did he bother? It was all about ego, nothing more.
In what way did Bernie try to tear the Democratic Party to pieces?
DeletePlus, I think you're giving too much credit to one old man.
I also believe I read somewhere that this would be his last term and he had no intention of running for re-election in 2018.
Why shouldn't he write a book? He doesn't have the same rights as Barney Frank? Or Sarah Palin?
All you haters are just fucked up.
That revolution you're dismissing? It's in the party platform. The movement is to keep it there and pressure those in office to move on it, rather than ignore it once elected.
Of course, Clinton has already said her transition team will include Mr. Fracking himself, Ken Salazar. I think that's an indication as to how progressive she's become. In other words, not at all. Once she's elected she'll swing back to the right. You can forget about anything she promised during the campaign. It will be the Bernie supporters that will keep the pressure on, not the "Democrats".
It's all conspiracy theory. No facts about what Berns has or has not done. Just Jesse's usual "know-it-all" shit stirring. So, until there is something factual, yes it should be "let go". All this conspiracy bullshit is too much like the Repubs and is doing nothing more than embarrassing our party and pissing people off.
DeleteWhat I have against Bernie is that he sure isn't out there stumping for clinton. But the house deal, what's the big deal? How many brothers and sisters does she have? So she sold her share of the house for 150k, so what? Then she took out retirement money, for which she will have to pay taxes probably, and Bernie got a bigly book advance? Sorry, never was a Bernie fan particularly, but where's the beef here, with the house purchase? Bernie's been working for some 50 years, so where's the beef?
ReplyDeleteBernie Sanders And His Big Rallies Are Returning To Put The Final Nail In Trump’s Coffin
Delete...Sanders, who endorsed Clinton last month, ticked off a list of states that he is likely to hit in coming weeks, including some where he won primaries and caucuses (New Hampshire, Maine, Michigan and Wisconsin) and some where he fell short but ran strongly among key segments of the electorate (Ohio, Pennsylvania and Nevada).
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Sanders said that during some of those visits he will also campaign on behalf of Democratic Senate candidates, including Katie McGinty in Pennsylvania, Ted Strickland in Ohio and Maggie Hassan in New Hampshire. He is also planning to campaign for other progressive down-ballot candidates, he said.
Bernie Sanders is staying true to his word that he is going to do everything he can to get Hillary Clinton elected. Sen. Sanders also said that he plans on campaigning for progressive candidates around the country as well as his work for Clinton and the Senate Democrats.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/20/bernie-sanders-big-rallies-returning-put-final-nail-trumps-coffin.html
Bernie's absence on the political front does solidify his grifter status.
DeleteProblem is, it doesn't add up (declaration of his total wealth with the recent money spent on this 3rd house - my guess is a shady kick back with that property purchase that bankrupted the college she used to run.
DeleteI haven't seen any Bernie rallies for clinton, except I think there was one in California, or at least an op ed in a California news paper, California being not a swing state, of course .
DeleteSo, he'll be hitting the crucial swing states to help Hillary?
DeleteOhio, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Michigan, Wisconsin. The ones Michael Moore identified. And he'll be doing it when it can do the most good.
What will Gryphen have to complain about then?
That he's taking credit for helping Hillary and he should shut up and butt out?
This is a no win. He'll be damned fir stumping and damned if he doesn't. Because no matter what he does he'll be hated for just breathing oxygen.
After reading this board, if I was Bernie I'd tell you all to fuck off. Instead he's going to help Hillary, for which he'll still be vilified.
I just don't understand the extent of the pure unadulterated hate.
I think you all hate Bernie more than Trump.
2:54pm
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Of course they do because he revealed a whole host of flaws not only in their "anointed one" but in their entire party and the shady manner in which it operates.
It's gotta hurt seeing the truth so blatantly displayed.
They are going through the Kugler-Ross stages of grief and they are currently stuck on "Anger".
Wait until you see how pissed they after they elect their Queen and she reverts to the "right of center" Dem she always was and tosses their beloved Dem platform out the window. Trust me, that's gonna be fun to watch, a tantrum of epic proportions.
His claim was that he was one of the 99%. He isn't. The have tons in investments. Many of us had to take out of much less robust investments (we didn't have two six figure salaries to contribute from) just for living expenses when we lost jobs. We're lucky to have one house, one car. They have three! (That's 2 more than their fair share!) Not to mention she got $200K for costing a college it's existence - she was rewarded for doing a bad job. She should have slunk away in shame. That Bernie puts most of their asset sin her name is pretty telling - a sugar mama. I voted for him in the primary, I now find them disgusting.
Delete"His claim was that he was one of the 99%."
DeleteHe never claimed that. Anyone who listened to just one of his speeches knows better.
5:51
DeleteNaw. They'll just remain in denial and make up excuses why she can't do what she promised. Apparently keeping promises is ONLY for Bernie Sanders. For Hillary there will be exceptions and excuses for everything.
Gee, 6:48. You sound like a COMMUNIST.
"For Hillary there will be exceptions and excuses for everything."
DeleteIt will be especially fun to read the pretzel-contorted excuse-making when the Dems win back the Senate but she doesn't pursue the platform. Fully expect that once she's got the office, she'll govern as the conservative war-hawk her daddy raised her to be.
I wonder how Pennysylvania will react to Ken "Fracking" Salazar on her transition team? Anyone paying attention isn't going to like that when they consider their vote.
DeleteGiven the way Romney (a few years of tax returns) and Trump (no tax returns), it will be rare if any candidate bothers to release their taxes. That genie is out of the bottle now and it won't go back in quietly.
ReplyDeleteWhat exactly dis Romney release? Wasn't It expected that he would amend what he had released so that we still don't know the facts of his taxes?
DeleteRomney didn't release his latest return, folks suggested it was because there was a huge IRS fine for hiding money in Swiss banks.
DeleteWTF? Has Sanders violated some Democratic Socialist vow of poverty? Or am I supposed to believe that since his having run for president and having bought a vacation house is for some undefineable reason to be seen as evidence that he embezzled campaign funds? (Yeah, the FEC would NEVER notice that.) What's next? Sanders killed Vince Foster and tried to frame Clinton?
ReplyDeleteDon't give Gryphen any ideas.
DeleteThere's a Democratic Socialism vow of Socialism. Neither of the Sanders are socialists in their lives, only in their talk.
DeleteThey're not socialist in their political registration either.
DeleteA Democratic Socialist isn't a socialist.
Bernie may say he's a Democratic Socialist but if you listen to how he explains it, he's not really. He's a Social Democrat, which is a different thing.
Another similarity between Bernie and $arah is that they both try to destroy their political parties from the inside by talking smack.
ReplyDeleteYes, Bernie Sanders and Sarah Palin are exactly the same, thanks for getting your head out of your dyslexic ass and reminding us of that...
DeleteNOT!
In what way did Bernie try to destroy the Democratic Party? By pressuring the leadership to include in the party platform things that registered Democratic votes support? I'm a registered Democrat and what Bernie pressured them to include are all things I support. When the Democratic leadership guts the platform or it becomes apparent they will ignore it all and conduct business as usual, I'll change my registration to something else because I've had a belly full of the lip service of the Democratic Party. If Hillary gets elected and she gets her senate majority and the platform is dumped, then she and the Democrats are no better than the Republicans. If that happens they'll also be throwing away that youth vote they *say* they really want, because the youth want what Bernie pushed to include in the platform. Throw that away and you've thrown away all those voters you claim you want. They won't stay just because. They may or may not re-register as non-partisan or unaffiliated, but they may also stop voting at all.
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ReplyDeleteInvestigation finds companies owned by Trump have at least 650 million dollars in debt
Trump’s Empire: A Maze of Debts and Opaque Ties
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/donald-trump-debt.html?utm_source=huffingtonpost.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pubexchange
Another post trying to defame Sanders but again missing the mark and instead demonstrating you haven't done even minimal homework to support your latest smear.
ReplyDeleteYou linked to the campaign fundraising site, not "Our Revolution". https://ourrevolution.com/
You would have learned from a simple google search that "Our Revolution" is a 501(c)(4) non-profit social welfare organization, not a PAC. Unlike the PAC you're trying to compare it to in your never-ending efforts to smear a good man, 501(c)(4)'s are limited to 50% or less of their spending money for political purposes. They file with the IRS, not the FEC.
Your other two smears are unsubstantiated garbage, too. Why should Sanders submit a financial statement when his campaign is over?
Obviously you can't substantiate your insinuations that the Sanders' used campaign funds for purchasing their house or any other non-campaign purpose. These accusations in particular are some of the sourest of sour grapes ever from a winner.
Whatever has caused your Ahab-like, unrelenting personal grudge against Sanders, trying to equate him to your nemesis Palin is detestable and neurotic. I believe it's a case of transference: you've been silenced from smearing Palin so you transferred your obsession onto taking your aggressions out on Bernie.
I never was a Bernie fan but I must agree; he shouldn't be compared to Palin, of all people. Anon 150 is right-Gryphen has obviously been silenced regarding the Palins and frankly, he deserves it by posting those stupid text messages.
DeleteI know that there are not a huge number of readers here but for those of us that are on the fence it certainly doesn't sway us towards a vote for HillBillary, that's for sure.
DeleteI for one have to sit this one out as neither candidate appeals and really Bernie didn't either. Some election cycles bring forth a candidate worth voting for and some don't, that's life. This one is not for me.
hey Hater, it wasn't Gryphen's questions that prompted Jane from Accounting to give some sort of explanation of how they are now so rich they can afford half-million-plus vacation homes.
DeleteAh yes, the obligatory Gryphen smear. I was waiting for it. My question is, if he bothers you so much, why are you still here?
DeleteThis still is his blog, and his opinion, and I'd wager that we've all made up our minds who we are voting for by now, if we vote at all, which is our right as citizens of this country.
Some enjoy argument, I do not, and quite frankly tired of everything coming back to the witch Palin. You elected her, Alaska, deal with it.
Providing facts is a smear? I swear to f_ck the world is upside down.
DeleteWhich party does this blog support again?
For those seeking heroes the last place you will find them is neither in anyone running for public office nor anyone currently serving in public office.
ReplyDeleteBitter much?
DeleteBitter? Um, no, just realistic.
DeleteTake off the blinders once in a while, it's good for your vision.
I told you there was no squillion-dollar lake house in Maine that could be converted into a posh vacation home in Vermont. I smelled that rat as soon as Jane tried to claim that her family's vacation home funded the purchase.
ReplyDeleteFace it, they are both liars. He has been covering up his personal finances as much as she has covered them up- phonies, both of them.
We're disappointed in Bernie, but I think Jane's the one who deserves all the responsibility for the fishy stories about Bernie's personal financial situation.
ReplyDeleteI believe Jane's the one who claimed they'd already released tax returns (plural) this spring, which the press investigated and found no record of. She lied and said the tax returns would be released when they returned home after the NY primary, when they could have been downloaded from anywhere using their Turbotax software. She then claimed that they were being looked over by an accountant, and would be released after he went through them, that long after the tax season rush was over. As a Catholic, I'm sure it was her idea to use campaign funds illegally to spend $600k to take their family over to the Vatican for less than 48 hours so she and Bernie could meet the Pope. Not to mention the lies she told about the loans for Burlington College. So "there was really no new information about their finances to share anyway"? Yeah, because they didn't submit the tax returns and disclosure papers they were supposed to submit.
"socialism" my dick
ReplyDeleteAss.
DeleteIf Jane is shady, Bernie should still be held accountable for the money spent.
ReplyDeleteGood deal if you can get it. Sit back and let wifey explain how they parlayed 150 grand with no accountability to disclose it in writing. Once a Shiester, always a shiester. Can't wait for the book, also, too.
ReplyDeleteGood job, Gryophen, excellent post.
Wasn't their declared net worth only something like $528k earlier this year? Motley Fool says $800K:
ReplyDeleteThat $800K does not include their $320K Vermont house, nor their Washington DC home- likely in the $700k range. http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/04/17/what-is-bernie-sanders-net-worth.aspx
So Bernie essentially lied on his personal net worth statement.
And they tried to hoodwink us into believing Bernie isn't just the normal run of the mill shady politician.
ReplyDeleteI would never trust any one of them who didn't release their tax returns.
Honest people don't run for office, period.
Delete24 hours later and Gryphen still hasn't corrected his post that Our Revolution is a 501(c)(4) social welfare non-profit, not a PAC.
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