Hillary Clinton’s lead in total votes over President-elect Donald Trump has reached 2,526,184 as ballots continue to be tallied.
As Clinton’s popular lead surpasses 2.5 million votes, it grows larger than the lead with which 10 presidents have won the general election, the New York Times reports. That means Clinton is up by 1.9 percentage points overall in the popular vote — approaching the lead that polls predicted in the final days before the election, the Times notes.
The disparity between the general election results and Trump’s electoral college lead of 306 over Clinton’s 232 shows how the electoral college system currently disadvantages Democratic voters because of their concentration in certain cities and regions.
Actually these numbers are already outdated.
According to the Cook Report Clinton now leads Trump by 2,564,276.
And that lead is only going to grow.
In fact in response to those proposed recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania Trump's lead in those targeted states is already diminishing.
You may remember that in Wisconsin the state already threw out over 1,000 Trump ballots even before the recount began.
Well as it turns out the same thing is happening in Pennsylvania:
According to this USA Today article and several other sources, the vote totals in Pennsylvania had Donald Trump winning by 70,638 votes – a number which was often quoted as a reason for why Hillary Clinton would supposedly have no chance of flipping the state in a recount. But earlier today, the respected Decision Desk HQ posted the newly revised totals from Pennsylvania, which have Donald Trump ahead by just 46,938 votes. That means Trump’s lead in the state has now shrunk by 23,700 votes, based on what it says are newly revised numbers out of Philadelphia.
It now appears that the Trump campaign is so worried abotu what they might find in Michigan that they filed a legal petition to stop Jill Stein from demanding a recount there:
The Trump campaign filed a legal petition Thursday to stop Michigan's presidential recount, saying Jill Stein has no chance of winning and no grievance, and there's no way that a hand count can be done before the Electoral College meets on December 19.
"Despite being a blip on the electoral radar, [Green Party nominee] Stein has now commandeered Michigan's electoral process," said Trump's petition to Michigan's Board of State Canvasser. "Indeed, on the basis of nothing more than speculation, Stein asks that Michigan residents endure an expensive, time-consuming recount, and the scrutiny and hardship that comes with it."
Gee, why so defensive?
Russian hackers, FBI interference, and non-stop partisan attacks, and still Trump loses the popular vote by a huge margin.
No victory lap for you Tangerine Fuhrer.
O/T Oh-Oh!
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin: Trump's Carrier deal is 'crony capitalism'
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/sarah-palin-donald-trump-carrier-deal-crony-capitalism-232139
Those of us that never believed she'd be given any job in the Swump administration must be 100% correct.
DeleteLOL the little band of peenuts are all "he only saved a few jobs, most are going to Mexico" now that Sarah has mouthed off against her ticket back to stardom.
DeleteOne Aderall and Red Bull too many....
DeleteWonder what her real reason was for popping off. Fear of failure?
Again?
Agreed. She's saying this so that when she gets no job it can be claimed that it's because she spoke up against crony capitalism.
DeleteWonder what her real reason was for popping off. Fear of failure?
DeleteAgain?
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Be pretty funny if someone else wrote that (duh, of course they did) without her knowing. She might be fetal after no wooing from trump.
Omg every Governor who studied all things government should stand up and be so outraged that their stupid us elect prez is dumb and getting tutored on the constitution. What an orange fat arse fugly baffoon our elect prez!
ReplyDeleteHaha this would mot be QUITTER Alaska's QUITTER gov. Haha
Oh man, the baffoonery!
Trump Is Desperately Tying To Stop The Recounts In Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania
ReplyDelete...If the recount is as unimportant as Republicans are claiming it to be, why are they filing lawsuits to stop it? If the recount won’t change the results in the three states, why challenge it? A recount that showed Trump winning would serve to add legitimacy to his presidency. Legitimacy should be a priority as Trump is losing the popular vote to Hillary Clinton by 2.5 million+ and counting.
There has to be a reason why Republicans don’t want the recount. It might be that the recount could flip a state or two to Hillary Clinton, and further weaken the most unpopular major party nominee to win the White House. It may be that the margin is so close in the three states, that Donald Trump could lose the election on a recount. This result is extremely unlikely, but Trump supporters might view this as a risk not worth taking.
No matter what the reason, it’s now clear that Republicans don’t want the recount to move forward, and they are pulling out all the stops to keep the votes in close swing states from being recounted.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/02/trump-allies-desperately-tying-stop-recounts-wisconsin-michigan-pennsylvania.html
When in danger of being exposed: sue.
DeleteSo predictable.
I sure hope the Democrats or Stein do NOT back down on this one.
DeleteIt needs to be proven without a doubt, trump does not have a mandate and the election was rigged.
Do we know if Stein has enough money or if she still needs donations?
DeleteUhh, a few major lies in this story. First of all NO Trump votes were thrown out in PA. The additional votes for Clinton were simply Absentee and provisional ballots which were NOT COUNTED on election day because there were not enough of them to even come close to changing the results. They are now done and the FINAL total for PA has Trump in the lead by 49000 votes and not 46000 as stated here.
DeletePlus an official in PA has stated there are NOT enough uncounted votes left to change the outcome and besides the few left to count are in the out lying suburbs which always go heavily Republican.
http://www.weny.com/regional-news/regional-news/trumps-pa-lead-shrinks-as-counties-wrap-up-counts
J Vance, good luck with instilling anything within the realm of reason or reality around these parts. They will not buy it. The libs are only tolerant when you are in complete lockstep with them.
DeleteCarrier Got A Taxpayer Handout Because Trump Holds Investment In Their Parent Company
ReplyDeleteThe Carrier deal has turned into a prime example of the sorts of conflicts of interest that will be coming to the White House with Donald Trump. It turns out the president-elect gave Carrier $7 million in taxpayer money and he owns stock in Carrier's parent company, United Technologies.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/02/carrier-taxpayer-handout-trump-owns-stock-parent-company.html
I sure hope the E.C. delegates are paying attention to all this.
DeleteUnited Technologies has a lot government contracts and trump THREATENED to tear them up if they didn’t go along with him.
DeleteAnother reason he should be FORCED to show his tax returns.
Voter remorse - so much for draining the swamp. I say "let the shit show begin" - can't hardly wait to hear from displaced workers of companies that Trump didn't pay off or unemployed miners that didn't get jobs in Trump's re-opened mines - promises, promises.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/12/02/i-just-wish-that-i-had-not-voted-trump-voter-lost-her-home-to-his-new-treasury-secretary.html
Imagine how much more lying shit he can do before Jan 21.
Delete2:40 ooh just awhile ago, Taiwan! Oh the baffoonary!
DeleteRemember, as the Deplorables start to realize Trump is screwing them, respond to each whine and complaint with "TOLD YOU SO!"
DeleteLet them feel bad. Rub it in. Enjoy a little Schadenfreude.
But hasn't a WI judge said no hand count can be done in WI? And Stein is suing? Any new word on this? With the machines being a problem, there needs to be a better way to count. A recount using the same exact means won't cut it.
ReplyDeleteAnd I really want that done in all the states they're talking about PLUS Florida. What happened to FLA? There was very interesting polling done about GOP voters going for Hillary. They need to pursue Florida!!
Last I checked, MI was for Trump by .2, WI was by .8. PA was by 1.1, and FLA was by 1.2. Why not go after all four states? Yes, the electoral votes in the other three states are all that would be needed, but go recount FLA anyway.
I received an email asking for recount volunteers in Michigan.
DeleteRomney's niece, the head of the state republican,is pushing to stop it with the "wasted tax dollars" excuse.
What are they so afraid of? I think we know.
Nobody waste tax dollars like republicans, this should be payback for all the Hillary investigations.
There is no waste of tax dollars. Stein is paying for it.
DeleteA believe the judge said that each precinct can decide how they are going to do their recounts. So no consistency there. Or accuracy if you ask me.
I don't think Stein is getting her money's worth.
Michigan is going to charge her $5 million to recount. If the Deplorables manage to block it, they better give her her money back.
Stein is making them all look like fools and that there is something to hide. So much for our fair and honest elections.
This is just making the election look more and more tainted.
mango musso-linguine
ReplyDeleteI like his new name I see: Cheeto. But maybe it should be spelled Cheato.
Delete;-)
DeleteDefinitely spell it Cheato. The cheesy junk food treat is too tasty to be a reminder of Trump.
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Donald Trump Is Pretending Like He Isn’t Inheriting A Booming Obama Economy
ReplyDeleteThe Obama economy’s success can’t be ignored. 178,000 jobs were created in November. Unemployment has fallen to 4.6%, and as The Atlantic pointed out, “When Barack Obama took office, the unemployment rate was passing 8 percent on its way to 10 percent. But U.S. unemployment has now been at 5 percent or below every month for a full year.”
Trump’s advisers can babble about labor participation rates and fake recoveries, but the reality is that the policies that Republicans are proposing are wrong for the economy at this time, and they will trigger a “Trump recession.” It is not a matter of if Trump’s policies will slow the economy down, but of when the recession will hit.
Trump is pretending like he is inheriting a bad economy so that he can blame Obama when his policies send the country into recession. The truth is that Trump is about to pull a George W. Bush and turn a good economy bad.
Republicans are trying to hide it, but it is President Obama who has made America great again. Donald Trump and the GOP are about to create a mess that it will be up to the next Democratic president to clean up.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/02/donald-trump-pretending-inheriting-booming-obama-economy.html
Right on. And it doesn't help that Americans have such a short attention span.
DeleteAnd it doesn't help that Americans have such a short attention span.
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Also the Democrats DO NOT remind them enough of what Obama inherited and exactly who caused it.
Aldo, the polls for national average were closely matching popular vote as Hillary winning.
ReplyDeleteDon’t ignore the lame duck. Policy fights are raging in Congress that will affect millions.
ReplyDeleteHere is a look at five of the most important fights in the lame-duck Congress — and how they’ll influence the much bigger battles looming around the corner.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/2/13800874/congress-lame-duck-policy
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/02/clinton-campaign-manager-calls-investigation-russia-election-interference.html
ReplyDeleteElection over. This ist America. Melania ist First Lady.
ReplyDeleteMore like First Twat. Drumpf being First Twit.
DeleteI think there's been a First Lady coup. Ivanka is going to be First Lady, not Melania. I wonder if Ivanka and her family will move into the White House.
DeleteBeaglemom
Putin I need your help.
ReplyDeleteMust be Palin didn't get the VA job:
ReplyDeleteShe wrote an op ed calling Trump's gift to Carrier Crony Capitalism.. Roh roh.. Granny Grifter is getting all pissy.
You mean her ghostwriter wrote...sicko Sarah is not able to write like that.
Deletehttp://www.mediaite.com/online/palin-criticizes-trump-carrier-deal-more-crony-capitalism/
Well, I don't know about that free hand....
DeleteI'll read the Palin piece later but you gotta admit it's REALLY bad when Sarah Palin turns on Trump!
DeleteDonald trump is a fucking asshole, liar and fraud! Facts mean nothing to him and we all are going to have to watch him closely and call him out constantly.
ReplyDeleteHe will not follow the rules and is going to be impeachable within the first year. Want him brought down HARD so that he is gone forever from the political scene.
Hillary Clinton should have been elected! She does have the majority/popular vote in a landslide! She beat the asshole by more than two and a half million votes!!
Trump is denying it - HE IS A LOSER and will not have the majority of Americans behind him! He cannot accept reality! I will never acknowledge him as my potus. He does not represent my beliefs or political thoughts.
I really want Obama to start speaking out. He's being way too quiet. I don't want him waiting until January to talk. These scumbags will be heading off to long holiday vacations. Obama needs to stand before the Amer. people and tell them what is up. Plus, it would be such a contrast to what we're seeing with the orange lardass and it would make the people stop and think (maybe).
ReplyDeletehttps://thinkprogress.org/democrats-will-botch-the-resistance-against-trump-1f8c211c7b68#.onbteqjyv
DeleteI think Obama is just waiting for Congress to head off on vacation, then spring his big surprise on them, at least I hope.
DeleteBy the way it is Dec 2nd already, doesn't congress enjoy a long vacation?
He'll speak out after he is out of office and a private citizen.
DeleteBut don't expect him to say much. He's too polite.
Go to hell Traitor Trump! I live in Michigan and say a recount is a fine way to spend my tax dollars.
ReplyDeleteA much more worthy cause than funding trump’s victory tour, dinners at expensive restaurants and housing Melanomia and Barron because she is too lazy to move to D. C.
I thought Jill Stein's $6M is paying for most of the recount costs? And I, too, say that this is a very fine use of all those donations, including mine.
DeleteI also live in Michigan...totally agree with you Anonymous 3:57.
DeleteTes, write your congress people and election boards say you are tax payer and it is ok.
DeleteAs a fellow Michigan-ian, I also think that the recount is called for here. There was something genuinely creepy about the outcome on election night.
DeleteBeaglemom
Another Michigander in favor of the recount here.
DeleteLooks like she ain't getting that cabinet position after all.
ReplyDeleteEh, she knows nothing is guaranteed. Shes going good calling out BOTH parties when they both suck and they both suck awful.
DeleteWho said she's not?
DeleteWhether the recount overturns things or not, I bet all the irregularities PLUS the 2.5+Million popular vote lead PLUS whatever else emerges re the Russian meddling will make at least SOME of the Electors think it over. Oh, please, I sure do hope the Electors will do the right thing when they vote.
ReplyDelete50 years!
Deletehttp://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/sons-ethel-rosenberg-plead-obama-exonerate-mother/?platform=hootsuite
Don't forget today's Taiwan phone call debacle.
DeleteTrump is doing more daily to prove he should NOT be president.
I hope enough electors decide privately that they can't vote for him and that he loses 37 votes. I don't care who they go to as long as they don't go to Trump.
I'll bet that Pence and Kasich get at least one.
Damn Gryphen, get yourself some Xanax! You're headed for a break down of epic proportions.
ReplyDeleteDuterte has compared himself to Adolf Hitler, called President Obama a “son of a whore” who could “go to hell” and horrifyingly joked of a rape victim that she was “so beautiful he should have been allowed to go first.” On the campaign trail, Duterte promised to “fatten the fish in Manila Bay with the bodies of 100,000 criminals.”
ReplyDeletehttp://occupydemocrats.com/2016/12/02/trump-just-invited-tyrannical-human-rights-abuser-white-house/
This too>
http://www.vox.com/world/2016/12/2/13824092/trump-phone-call-president-taiwan-china
"“The President of Taiwan CALLED ME today to wish me congratulations on winning the Presidency. Thank you!” Trump said in a Twitter"
Deletehttp://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/trump-swears-taiwan-president-called-me-and-only-to-offer-congratulations/
SO? WTF? " Friday, initiating the first US-Taiwanese presidential contact in over three decades." <drumpf called her.
Deletehttp://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/revealed-trump-organization-eyes-taiwan-for-newest-luxury-resort-location/
I think he's spoken to Duarte too and invited him to the U.S.
Deletehttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/nov/30/hillary-clinton-katy-perry-unicef-award-video
ReplyDeleteRESIST!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.yahoo.com/news/common-interpretation-freedom-speech-press-100406449.html
Michigan board green lights Jill Stein’s Michigan recount despite Trump court filing
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/michigan-board-green-lights-steins-michigan-recount-despite-trump-court-filing/
It's fascinating to me that the recount lowers the vote for Trump but not for the other candidates. That tells me that it's the GOP cheating (once again) in a national election. What's been going on with the GOP in all of those "downstream" elections over the years? Does the GOP even know how to run a campaign and win or lose fair and square?
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The GOP can lose fair and square all right, but they don't like to do it, and they can't win fair and square.
ReplyDeleteWe don't elect a president by popular vote! A law that has been in the Constitution since 1789. Trump understood the math, Democrats did not.
ReplyDeleteWhy didn't you call for an EC change after the 2000 election?
Gore disappeared from politics after his loss. Clinton was such a poor sport she left her supporters in the arena while she left. No guts to face her loss, or her supporters! And she will probably never be heard from again in politics, except to push for recounts, or a push to get electoral voters to change their vote. Crybaby is to nice a word for these losers who no attack the Constitution.