This is the first hand account from a man who participated in the recount.
See if you can pick out any nuance to suggest how afraid of this recount the Trump folks were.
Courtesy of Medium:
On December 7, 2016, I volunteered as an observer with Recount Michigan 2016. I showed up at 9:00am sharp in the heart of Detroit, in heavily democratic Wayne County, Michigan.
It was a bloodbath.
I did not count a single vote during my entire first four-hour shift.
Trump’s legal team was there in force, circling the room like sharks. They were challenging everything, gumming up the works and disqualifying whole precincts. I was only aware of a single Green Party attorney plus one law student in my (large) room. Many challenges had one or more Trump lawyers speaking with election officials, and no legal advocate present for the other side; they were simply outnumbered and outgunned.
Every recount table had 1–2 Trump observers present, each one holding written scripts to challenge every single precinct, regardless of the facts.
At the end of his post Mr. Sharp wonders if this same scenario played out in other places in Michigan. I think that is a fairly safe assumption.
But if Trump won by the "landslide" that he claims to have won by why would they be so nervous?
Perhaps this is why?
Courtesy of News One:
According to officials, over 80 machines were deemed faulty on November 8 which may have caused electronic vote tallies to be off in over half of the precincts in Detroit as well as one-third of the precincts in Wayne County. The elections director for the city of Detroit, Daniel Baxter, says that the issue could have a problematic impact on a recount. “It’s not good,” he told the Detroit News. “It’s a challenge, but we’re confident the ballots will match. I don’t think it’s going to be 100 percent, but it never is with a recount.” He claims that many of the voting machines were over 10-years-old.
In Detroit, where African-Americans make up 82 percent of the population, the number of ballots in the precinct poll books didn’t align with the voting machine reports in 59 percent of the city’s precincts.
Since Clinton received the lion’s share of support from Black voters–88 percent compared to Trump’s 8 percent–questions arise about how he won the state.
So could it be that the Trump campaign KNOWS that there is some hinky shit happening with those voting machines in Michigan, and perhaps even took advantage of that, and are now seriously concerned that too much scrutiny will bring that to the attention of the public?
Well that would explain all of those expensive lawyers.
And sadly now thanks to a federal judge we will never know if the Michigan votes were accurately tallied or not.
But I know what I think.
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Monday, December 12, 2016
Wednesday, December 07, 2016
Recount update.
Problems in Michigan:
The final result of the US presidential election is still unclear almost a month after polling day – and the recount in Michigan has now been thrown into chaos because of broken voting machines.
As officials began a full recount in the swing state, it emerged that faulty machines mean half of all votes cast in the city of Detroit may be ineligible for recount. A third of voting precincts in Wayne County, that largest of Michigan's counties, could also be disqualified.
The problems were discovered after voting clerks were unable to match the number of votes cast on the machines with the number of people who had been registered at polling stations.
Officials said at least 87 of Detroit’s decade-old voting machines had failed on Election Day, with many jamming when ballot papers were fed in. In 392 of the city’s 662 voting precincts, the number of votes recorded on machines was not the same as the number of voters registerered by polling station staff.
And yet they keep on using this machines.
I tell you, something is going on with this election, and it is not all due to faulty machines.
Lawsuit files in Florida:
Three central Florida voters are mounting an unlikely bid to overturn the presidential election result in the Sunshine State.
In a lawsuit filed Monday in Leon Circuit Court, they assert that Hillary Clinton, not Donald Trump, actually won Florida. The plaintiffs, who live in Osceola and Volusia counties, say the state’s official election results were off because of hacking, malfunctioning voting machines and other problems.
They're asking for a hand recount of every paper ballot in Florida, at the expense of defendants including Trump, Gov. Rick Scott and the 29 Republican presidential electors from Florida.
The Group "Protect Our Elections" is claiming that there are over a hundred thousand uncounted votes in Florida:
Protect Our Elections, a liberal-leaning group based in Washington, D.C., says more than 160,000 votes in Florida weren't counted during last month's presidential election. The group claims each of those votes matters a great deal because Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton by 112,911 votes in the Sunshine State. Trump won by roughly 1.5 percent, a margin high enough to avoid the state's automatic-recount provisions.
Well isn't that interesting?
Wisconsin is about halfway through its recount process with no huge changes in the vote tally thus far.
The lawsuit that Jill Stein filed in Pennsylvania calls the election system there a national disgrace:
Court documents seeking a recount in Pennsylvania's presidential election paint an unflattering picture of the state's voting system, calling it a "national disgrace" that uses "vulnerable, hackable, antiquated technology," but offer no specific evidence the results of the Nov. 8 election were hacked.
And that is where we are right now.
The final result of the US presidential election is still unclear almost a month after polling day – and the recount in Michigan has now been thrown into chaos because of broken voting machines.
As officials began a full recount in the swing state, it emerged that faulty machines mean half of all votes cast in the city of Detroit may be ineligible for recount. A third of voting precincts in Wayne County, that largest of Michigan's counties, could also be disqualified.
The problems were discovered after voting clerks were unable to match the number of votes cast on the machines with the number of people who had been registered at polling stations.
Officials said at least 87 of Detroit’s decade-old voting machines had failed on Election Day, with many jamming when ballot papers were fed in. In 392 of the city’s 662 voting precincts, the number of votes recorded on machines was not the same as the number of voters registerered by polling station staff.
And yet they keep on using this machines.
I tell you, something is going on with this election, and it is not all due to faulty machines.
Lawsuit files in Florida:
Three central Florida voters are mounting an unlikely bid to overturn the presidential election result in the Sunshine State.
In a lawsuit filed Monday in Leon Circuit Court, they assert that Hillary Clinton, not Donald Trump, actually won Florida. The plaintiffs, who live in Osceola and Volusia counties, say the state’s official election results were off because of hacking, malfunctioning voting machines and other problems.
They're asking for a hand recount of every paper ballot in Florida, at the expense of defendants including Trump, Gov. Rick Scott and the 29 Republican presidential electors from Florida.
The Group "Protect Our Elections" is claiming that there are over a hundred thousand uncounted votes in Florida:
Protect Our Elections, a liberal-leaning group based in Washington, D.C., says more than 160,000 votes in Florida weren't counted during last month's presidential election. The group claims each of those votes matters a great deal because Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton by 112,911 votes in the Sunshine State. Trump won by roughly 1.5 percent, a margin high enough to avoid the state's automatic-recount provisions.
Well isn't that interesting?
Wisconsin is about halfway through its recount process with no huge changes in the vote tally thus far.
The lawsuit that Jill Stein filed in Pennsylvania calls the election system there a national disgrace:
Court documents seeking a recount in Pennsylvania's presidential election paint an unflattering picture of the state's voting system, calling it a "national disgrace" that uses "vulnerable, hackable, antiquated technology," but offer no specific evidence the results of the Nov. 8 election were hacked.
And that is where we are right now.
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Monday, December 05, 2016
Election recount update.
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Here goes.
First off yes there are images and video of voting machines in Wisconsin with broken seals. However Snopes currently categorizes these stores as "unproven."
In other news we learned that Jill Stein has changed her strategy in the Pennsylvania recount effort by demanding an emergency federal court order:
The announcement that it would seek an emergency federal court order on Monday for a recount came hours after it dropped a case in the state courts.
"Make no mistake — the Stein campaign will continue to fight for a statewide recount in Pennsylvania," recount campaign lawyer Jonathan Abady said in a statement issued around 11:30 p.m. "We are committed to this fight to protect the civil and voting rights of all Americans."
In the statement, Abady said barriers to a recount in Pennsylvania are pervasive and the state court system is ill-equipped to address the problem.
Along with that news is a report that Trump's margin of victory in Pennsylvania is now within 0.2% of a required recount:
On Friday, in response to President Elect Donald Trump’s application to stop the recounts in Pennsylvania, Green Party candidate and recount catalyst Jill Stein issued a statement where she noted that Trump’s margin of victory is now within 0.2% of an automatic recount. Stein cited this tweet from pollsters Decision Desk HQ for her figures.
Because this is coming from Stein I remain a little skeptical, however if true this could really be a game changer.Pennsylvania statewide with the Philadelphia tally now complete:— Decision Desk HQ (@DecisionDeskHQ) December 1, 2016
Trump 2,961,875
Clinton 2,915,440
We have also learned that a federal judge ordered that a recount in Michigan happen right away.
Now ultimately all of this might be much ado about nothing, OR we could actually find evidence that this election was stolen and this could be a very big deal indeed.
Whatever the case it has certainly gotten under Trump's skin.
Yep, it could be a scam.The Green Party just dropped its recount suit in Pennsylvania and is losing votes in Wisconsin recount. Just a Stein scam to raise money!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 4, 2016
But then again this recount thing might terrify Trump because there really is something there for it to find.
All I know is that right now I am keeping an open mind.
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Saturday, December 03, 2016
We might soon be able to add Florida to the states that will undergo a recount.
Courtesy of the Palmer Report:
Yesterday a federally registered nonprofit election entity launched a fundraiser to cover the court costs of a lawsuit it intended to file in the name of forcing a statewide recount in the narrowly decided state of Florida. The attorney fees were fully crowdfunded within a matter of hours. And today the attorney in question announced that he has officially filed the lawsuit in question, creating at least some possibility that a Florida recount may happen.
Florida state law prohibits any candidate from requesting a recount, meaning that third party candidate Jill Stein cannot force a recount in the state even if she pays for the costs, as she’s doing in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. But this lawsuit is aimed at getting a judge to order a Florida recount, whether republican state officials want to do it or not.
Clint Curtis, the Florida attorney who has been hired to lead the legal charge in court, announced today via his official Facebook page that the election complaint is now indeed underway in the legal arena.
Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and now Florida.
You know if even one of these flips to Hillary there will be a cacophony of calls for ALL of the seeing states, if not all of the states, to go back and do recounts.
I have had my doubts, but this really could turn into a big deal.
Hard to imagine that it would be a big enough deal to change the outcome of this election, but it could cause our voting system to restructure itself so that ALL states will have paper ballots easily verifiable with a hand recount.
Yesterday a federally registered nonprofit election entity launched a fundraiser to cover the court costs of a lawsuit it intended to file in the name of forcing a statewide recount in the narrowly decided state of Florida. The attorney fees were fully crowdfunded within a matter of hours. And today the attorney in question announced that he has officially filed the lawsuit in question, creating at least some possibility that a Florida recount may happen.
Florida state law prohibits any candidate from requesting a recount, meaning that third party candidate Jill Stein cannot force a recount in the state even if she pays for the costs, as she’s doing in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. But this lawsuit is aimed at getting a judge to order a Florida recount, whether republican state officials want to do it or not.
Clint Curtis, the Florida attorney who has been hired to lead the legal charge in court, announced today via his official Facebook page that the election complaint is now indeed underway in the legal arena.
Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and now Florida.
You know if even one of these flips to Hillary there will be a cacophony of calls for ALL of the seeing states, if not all of the states, to go back and do recounts.
I have had my doubts, but this really could turn into a big deal.
Hard to imagine that it would be a big enough deal to change the outcome of this election, but it could cause our voting system to restructure itself so that ALL states will have paper ballots easily verifiable with a hand recount.
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Friday, December 02, 2016
Just a reminder that Hillary Clinton's popular vote count now exceeds Trump's by over 2.5 million.
Courtesy of Time:
Hillary Clinton’s lead in total votes over President-elect Donald Trump has reached 2,526,184 as ballots continue to be tallied.
As Clinton’s popular lead surpasses 2.5 million votes, it grows larger than the lead with which 10 presidents have won the general election, the New York Times reports. That means Clinton is up by 1.9 percentage points overall in the popular vote — approaching the lead that polls predicted in the final days before the election, the Times notes.
The disparity between the general election results and Trump’s electoral college lead of 306 over Clinton’s 232 shows how the electoral college system currently disadvantages Democratic voters because of their concentration in certain cities and regions.
Actually these numbers are already outdated.
According to the Cook Report Clinton now leads Trump by 2,564,276.
And that lead is only going to grow.
In fact in response to those proposed recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania Trump's lead in those targeted states is already diminishing.
You may remember that in Wisconsin the state already threw out over 1,000 Trump ballots even before the recount began.
Well as it turns out the same thing is happening in Pennsylvania:
According to this USA Today article and several other sources, the vote totals in Pennsylvania had Donald Trump winning by 70,638 votes – a number which was often quoted as a reason for why Hillary Clinton would supposedly have no chance of flipping the state in a recount. But earlier today, the respected Decision Desk HQ posted the newly revised totals from Pennsylvania, which have Donald Trump ahead by just 46,938 votes. That means Trump’s lead in the state has now shrunk by 23,700 votes, based on what it says are newly revised numbers out of Philadelphia.
It now appears that the Trump campaign is so worried abotu what they might find in Michigan that they filed a legal petition to stop Jill Stein from demanding a recount there:
The Trump campaign filed a legal petition Thursday to stop Michigan's presidential recount, saying Jill Stein has no chance of winning and no grievance, and there's no way that a hand count can be done before the Electoral College meets on December 19.
"Despite being a blip on the electoral radar, [Green Party nominee] Stein has now commandeered Michigan's electoral process," said Trump's petition to Michigan's Board of State Canvasser. "Indeed, on the basis of nothing more than speculation, Stein asks that Michigan residents endure an expensive, time-consuming recount, and the scrutiny and hardship that comes with it."
Gee, why so defensive?
Russian hackers, FBI interference, and non-stop partisan attacks, and still Trump loses the popular vote by a huge margin.
No victory lap for you Tangerine Fuhrer.
Hillary Clinton’s lead in total votes over President-elect Donald Trump has reached 2,526,184 as ballots continue to be tallied.
As Clinton’s popular lead surpasses 2.5 million votes, it grows larger than the lead with which 10 presidents have won the general election, the New York Times reports. That means Clinton is up by 1.9 percentage points overall in the popular vote — approaching the lead that polls predicted in the final days before the election, the Times notes.
The disparity between the general election results and Trump’s electoral college lead of 306 over Clinton’s 232 shows how the electoral college system currently disadvantages Democratic voters because of their concentration in certain cities and regions.
Actually these numbers are already outdated.
According to the Cook Report Clinton now leads Trump by 2,564,276.
And that lead is only going to grow.
In fact in response to those proposed recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania Trump's lead in those targeted states is already diminishing.
You may remember that in Wisconsin the state already threw out over 1,000 Trump ballots even before the recount began.
Well as it turns out the same thing is happening in Pennsylvania:
According to this USA Today article and several other sources, the vote totals in Pennsylvania had Donald Trump winning by 70,638 votes – a number which was often quoted as a reason for why Hillary Clinton would supposedly have no chance of flipping the state in a recount. But earlier today, the respected Decision Desk HQ posted the newly revised totals from Pennsylvania, which have Donald Trump ahead by just 46,938 votes. That means Trump’s lead in the state has now shrunk by 23,700 votes, based on what it says are newly revised numbers out of Philadelphia.
It now appears that the Trump campaign is so worried abotu what they might find in Michigan that they filed a legal petition to stop Jill Stein from demanding a recount there:
The Trump campaign filed a legal petition Thursday to stop Michigan's presidential recount, saying Jill Stein has no chance of winning and no grievance, and there's no way that a hand count can be done before the Electoral College meets on December 19.
"Despite being a blip on the electoral radar, [Green Party nominee] Stein has now commandeered Michigan's electoral process," said Trump's petition to Michigan's Board of State Canvasser. "Indeed, on the basis of nothing more than speculation, Stein asks that Michigan residents endure an expensive, time-consuming recount, and the scrutiny and hardship that comes with it."
Gee, why so defensive?
Russian hackers, FBI interference, and non-stop partisan attacks, and still Trump loses the popular vote by a huge margin.
No victory lap for you Tangerine Fuhrer.
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Monday, November 28, 2016
Wisconsin rejects request for hand count, Jill Stein to sue.
Courtesy of the Journal Sentinel:
The Wisconsin Elections Commission set a timetable Monday for a recount of the presidential election but rejected a request to require a count by hand made by Green Party candidate Jill Stein, who quickly responded that she would sue.
Also Monday, Stein filed a lawsuit in Pennsylvania to force a recount there and her supporters began filing recount requests at the precinct level there. Stein — who received just a tiny piece of the vote —also plans to ask for a recount in Michigan on Wednesday.
Unless Stein wins her lawsuit in Dane County Circuit Court, officials in each of Wisconsin’s 72 counties would decide on their own whether to do their recounts by hand. That could mean some counties perform recounts by machine and some by hand.
The Elections Committee Chairman, who happens to be a Democrat, stated that he did not think the recount would change the outcome of the election.
Of course the problem with rejecting a hand count, and allowing some counties to use machines, is that a large portion of Americans will remain unconvinced in the outcome of the Wisconsin election.
Besides considering the fact that Donald Trump himself recently claimed that he only lost the popular vote due to millions and millions of illegal ballots, and claims there may be voter fraud in California, New Hampshire, and Virginia, I don't see how we can trust the results coming out of ANY state until she conduct a hand count of each and every vote cast in this election.
I mean if even the guy who won the election is convinced that there was cheating going on, I do not see how we can move forward with this process until we can get to the truth.
And I am sure that if any reporter can get close enough to Donald Trump to ask him about this, that he would agree.
Right?
The Wisconsin Elections Commission set a timetable Monday for a recount of the presidential election but rejected a request to require a count by hand made by Green Party candidate Jill Stein, who quickly responded that she would sue.
Also Monday, Stein filed a lawsuit in Pennsylvania to force a recount there and her supporters began filing recount requests at the precinct level there. Stein — who received just a tiny piece of the vote —also plans to ask for a recount in Michigan on Wednesday.
Unless Stein wins her lawsuit in Dane County Circuit Court, officials in each of Wisconsin’s 72 counties would decide on their own whether to do their recounts by hand. That could mean some counties perform recounts by machine and some by hand.
The Elections Committee Chairman, who happens to be a Democrat, stated that he did not think the recount would change the outcome of the election.
Of course the problem with rejecting a hand count, and allowing some counties to use machines, is that a large portion of Americans will remain unconvinced in the outcome of the Wisconsin election.
Besides considering the fact that Donald Trump himself recently claimed that he only lost the popular vote due to millions and millions of illegal ballots, and claims there may be voter fraud in California, New Hampshire, and Virginia, I don't see how we can trust the results coming out of ANY state until she conduct a hand count of each and every vote cast in this election.
I mean if even the guy who won the election is convinced that there was cheating going on, I do not see how we can move forward with this process until we can get to the truth.
And I am sure that if any reporter can get close enough to Donald Trump to ask him about this, that he would agree.
Right?
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Sunday, November 27, 2016
Donald Trump has just put to rest any question as to whether he is mentally fit to be president. (He is not.) Update!
Now just roll that around in your head for a bit.In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016
Currently Hillary is ahead in the popular vote by over 2.2 million.
Is Trump REALLY suggesting that ALL of those votes were cast illegally?
(Yes he is and here is where he got that idea.)
But hey, its gets even better.
It would have been much easier for me to win the so-called popular vote than the Electoral College in that I would only campaign in 3 or 4--— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016
So you see Donald Trump was not really trying to win the popular vote, but if he HAD been trying to win the popular vote then buy God he WOULD have won the popular vote, which actually he DID win if not for all of those totally illegal votes.states instead of the 15 states that I visited. I would have won even more easily and convincingly (but smaller states are forgotten)!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016
Which begs the question, just exactly what COULD he have done to win that popular vote, which he totally already won?
Rigged the election even harder perhaps?
I'm sorry but this is not a well man.
He is clearly worried about something, and it is causing him to crack even before he takes he oath of office.
So now here's a question. You know just for shits and giggles.
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Trump team now coming out pretty aggressively against this recount effort.
"But this is the president-elect’s position right now and I would say he has been incredibly gracious and magnanimous to Secretary Clinton at a time when, for whatever reason, her folks are saying they will join in a recount to try to somehow undo the 70 plus electoral votes that he beat her by. I mean this — you know, I was asked on CNN and elsewhere, goodness a thousand times, will Donald Trump accept the election results? And now you’ve got the Democrats and Jill Stein saying they do not accept the election results? She congratulated him and conceded to him on election night. I was right there. And the idea that we are going to drag this out now where the president-elect has been incredibly magnanimous to the Clintons and to the Obamas is incredible."
The above was from this morning, but Conway was also talking about it yesterday:
“What a pack of sore losers,” she said in a statement on Saturday. “After asking Mr. Trump and his team a million times on the trail, ‘Will HE accept the election results?’ it turns out Team Hillary and their new BFF Jill Stein can’t accept reality.”
“Rather than adhere to the tradition of graciously conceding and wishing the winner well, they’ve opted to waste millions of dollars and dismiss the democratic process. The people have spoken. Time to listen up. #YesYourPresident,” Conway said.
And then both she and Reince Priebus talked on NBC and Fox News about the recount:
Speaking on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday, Conway said the recount effort was “confounding and disappointing.” And Reince Priebus, the incoming White House chief of staff, said on “Fox News Sunday” that the planned recount would serve “only to divide this country when we need to come together.”
No, actually this recount can serve to bring the country together by proving beyond any doubt that Trump legitimately won this election, (You know aside from all of that Russian hacking, unnecessary GOP investigations, and FBI putting their thumb on the scale of course.)
The only way it would further divide the country would be if.....Oh, so perhaps there is something to find here?
By the way do I even need to remind everybody that Trump once said this:
"I would like to promise and pledge to all of my voters and supporters and to all of the people of the United States, that I will totally accept the results of this great and historic presidential election - if I win," he said.
He added he would accept "a clear election result," but reserved the right to contest or file a legal challenge in the case of a questionable result.
And that was BEFORE the election even took place.
Yet now that he has "won," he would fault the Hillary campaign, or anybody else, for wanting to request a recount?
I guess it really doesn't matter that my irony meter has been broken for over a year now, because this would probably just break in anyhow.
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Donald Trump is having an absolute meltdown over this recount thing.
The Democrats, when they incorrectly thought they were going to win, asked that the election night tabulation be accepted. Not so anymore!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016
Hillary Clinton conceded the election when she called me just prior to the victory speech and after the results were in. Nothing will change— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016
Hillary's debate answer on delay: "That is horrifying. That is not the way our democracy works. Been around for 240 years. We've had free --— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016
and fair elections. We've accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them, and that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a -— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016
during a general election. I, for one, am appalled that somebody that is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind --— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016
of position." Then, separately she stated, "He said something truly horrifying ... he refused to say that he would respect the results of --— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016
this election. That is a direct threat to our democracy." She then said, "We have to accept the results and look to the future, Donald --— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016
Did he just talk about himself in the third person again?Trump is going to be our President. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead." So much time and money will be spent - same result! Sad— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016
You know it is perfectly reasonable for somebody to request a recount in a close election, it is part of our democratic process.
For Trump to be getting so bent out of shape over this really makes me wonder if there is not something here that he REALLY does not want us to discover.
Something that Nate Silver seems to agree with as well.
We're just saying.This is turning me in favor of the recount. The peaceful-transition-of-power playbook doesn't usually include taunting your opponents. https://t.co/zp09H1tBYS— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) November 27, 2016
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Saturday, November 26, 2016
It appears that this recount thing has Donald Trump a little concerned.
Donald Trump attacking this as a scam actually lends it an air of respectability that I am not sure it fully enjoyed before.Worth noting that in focusing entirely on Stein, Trump is actually taking the high road here pic.twitter.com/Q6sHtUv4t1— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) November 26, 2016
By the way "if the election is over" as he states, why even respond to this?
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Wisconsin agrees to presidential recount, but even before it starts they are dismissing over a thousand votes for Trump. Update!
Courtesy of NPR:
The Wisconsin Elections Commission announced Friday that it would hold a statewide recount of the presidential vote. The move was in response to petitions from two candidates, the Green Party's Jill Stein and independent Rocky Roque De La Fuente.
Federal law requires that all recounts be finished 35 days after the election, which is Dec. 13. One or both of the candidates will be required to pay for the recount.
Well that is certainly good news, and it is especially important in light of this news:
And THAT is only one county in Wisconsin.
Here is more from The Palmer Report:
At the end of election night the New York Times reported that Donald Trump had won the state of Wisconsin with a total of 1,409,467 votes, giving him a winning margin of 27,257 votes over Hillary Clinton’s total of 1,382,210. These numbers were based on what the individual counties and precincts were reporting that night. But now seventeen days later, based on various Wisconsin precincts revising their own totals, Dave Wasserman of the respected Cook Political Report has updated the totals. Donald Trump now has 1,404,536 total votes in Wisconsin, while Hillary Clinton now has 1,382,011 total votes.
Two things immediately jump out, as first spotted by music critic Dave Greenwald. The first is that, even ahead of the forthcoming recount in Wisconsin, Donald Trump’s lead has already shrunk to just 22,525 votes. That means 18% of his “lead” has already vanished, based on precincts catching some of their own incorrect numbers, and internet gawkers catching others. But the second thing that jumps out is that the revisions have served to erase thousands of votes from Trump, while affirming that Clinton’s vote total was essentially correct to begin with.
So is it possible that Philadelphia and Michigan also have disparities like this among their election results? Do you really even need to ask?
Which brings me to my Saturday morning rant.
I am sick and tired of people saying some version of "Hillary Clinton was a flawed candidate," or "The Democrats simply did not get their message out," or "The Clinton Campaign's arrogance cost them this election."
No, No, and NO!
This election was not lost. This election was stolen.
Even if you dismiss this stuff in Wisconsin as being nothing more than a few aberrations which did not affect the outcome, the evidence that this election was stolen is still overwhelming.
First there is the incredible disparity between the electoral vote and the popular vote which now shows Hillary Clinton ahead by 2.2 million votes.
Add to that the fact that the Republicans launched an investigation designed to implant in the American psyche the idea that Hillary was a criminal of some kind.
Then add Russian hackers who targeted ONLY institutions that might have dirt on Hillary, Wikileaks who then dumped that data for public consumption, a media that gleefully reported that illegally attained information to the public while also exaggerating it to attract consumers, and then finally FBI Director James Comey who gambled with his very future by coming out and alluding to the possibility that Hillary might still be indicted.
So you tell me, which presidential candidate could have withstood all of that and emerged victorious?
Bernie Sanders? Don't make me laugh.
Donald Trump? Not on your life.
Barack Obama? No, probably not even him.
NO candidate in American history has had to weather this kind of shit storm.
And now it turns out that the final vote tally might not be accurate.
The Republicans are counting on Democrats to blame ourselves or each other for this "loss," after all that's the same thing we did back in 2000
"Oh if only AL Gore had not been so stiff, or maybe if he had allowed Bill Clinton to campaign for him, or maybe if he had not used the term 'blind trust' so much."
No we won that election, and we allowed it to be stolen from us.
And the same thing just happened again.
So go ahead and blame the most qualified candidate that we have ever run for office, or blame the DNC for not "allowing" Sanders to win instead, or maybe just blame yourselves. After all that is what we do.
And that is what the Republicans, the Right Wing media, and Vladimir Putin are counting on.
But if we don't start looking at the reality of what went on in this election, we are going to find ourselves right back here again in four, eight, or twelve years.
Update: Well now the Clinton Campaign is officially participating in this recount effort.
Good for them!
The Wisconsin Elections Commission announced Friday that it would hold a statewide recount of the presidential vote. The move was in response to petitions from two candidates, the Green Party's Jill Stein and independent Rocky Roque De La Fuente.
Federal law requires that all recounts be finished 35 days after the election, which is Dec. 13. One or both of the candidates will be required to pay for the recount.
Well that is certainly good news, and it is especially important in light of this news:
The presidential election of 2016 was the most contentious and bizarre in American history. On top of the vile rhetoric that was spewed by now President-elect Donald Trump, it now appears that certain voting tallies in Wisconsin were hedged in Trump’s favor. A county in Wisconsin named Outagamie County had four precincts in the areas of Cicero, Grand Chute, Bear Creek, and Hortonville which all showed that they had fewer people overall than had voted in the presidential election. This instance, naturally, caused the Internet to fly in a fury claiming, rightly, that voter fraud was taking place. The precincts quickly adjusted their voting totals, which removed over a thousand votes from Donald Trump’s side. What a coincidence, the party which has spent years decrying voter fraud were once again benefiting from voter fraud.Same deal in Hortonville. Trump’s number down by 400+ votes, Clinton’s unchanged. Ballots cast now matches votes counted. 3/x pic.twitter.com/65lsNVMn6x— dan solo (@dansolomon) November 22, 2016
And THAT is only one county in Wisconsin.
Here is more from The Palmer Report:
At the end of election night the New York Times reported that Donald Trump had won the state of Wisconsin with a total of 1,409,467 votes, giving him a winning margin of 27,257 votes over Hillary Clinton’s total of 1,382,210. These numbers were based on what the individual counties and precincts were reporting that night. But now seventeen days later, based on various Wisconsin precincts revising their own totals, Dave Wasserman of the respected Cook Political Report has updated the totals. Donald Trump now has 1,404,536 total votes in Wisconsin, while Hillary Clinton now has 1,382,011 total votes.
Two things immediately jump out, as first spotted by music critic Dave Greenwald. The first is that, even ahead of the forthcoming recount in Wisconsin, Donald Trump’s lead has already shrunk to just 22,525 votes. That means 18% of his “lead” has already vanished, based on precincts catching some of their own incorrect numbers, and internet gawkers catching others. But the second thing that jumps out is that the revisions have served to erase thousands of votes from Trump, while affirming that Clinton’s vote total was essentially correct to begin with.
So is it possible that Philadelphia and Michigan also have disparities like this among their election results? Do you really even need to ask?
Which brings me to my Saturday morning rant.
I am sick and tired of people saying some version of "Hillary Clinton was a flawed candidate," or "The Democrats simply did not get their message out," or "The Clinton Campaign's arrogance cost them this election."
No, No, and NO!
This election was not lost. This election was stolen.
Even if you dismiss this stuff in Wisconsin as being nothing more than a few aberrations which did not affect the outcome, the evidence that this election was stolen is still overwhelming.
First there is the incredible disparity between the electoral vote and the popular vote which now shows Hillary Clinton ahead by 2.2 million votes.
Add to that the fact that the Republicans launched an investigation designed to implant in the American psyche the idea that Hillary was a criminal of some kind.
Then add Russian hackers who targeted ONLY institutions that might have dirt on Hillary, Wikileaks who then dumped that data for public consumption, a media that gleefully reported that illegally attained information to the public while also exaggerating it to attract consumers, and then finally FBI Director James Comey who gambled with his very future by coming out and alluding to the possibility that Hillary might still be indicted.
So you tell me, which presidential candidate could have withstood all of that and emerged victorious?
Bernie Sanders? Don't make me laugh.
Donald Trump? Not on your life.
Barack Obama? No, probably not even him.
NO candidate in American history has had to weather this kind of shit storm.
And now it turns out that the final vote tally might not be accurate.
The Republicans are counting on Democrats to blame ourselves or each other for this "loss," after all that's the same thing we did back in 2000
"Oh if only AL Gore had not been so stiff, or maybe if he had allowed Bill Clinton to campaign for him, or maybe if he had not used the term 'blind trust' so much."
No we won that election, and we allowed it to be stolen from us.
And the same thing just happened again.
So go ahead and blame the most qualified candidate that we have ever run for office, or blame the DNC for not "allowing" Sanders to win instead, or maybe just blame yourselves. After all that is what we do.
And that is what the Republicans, the Right Wing media, and Vladimir Putin are counting on.
But if we don't start looking at the reality of what went on in this election, we are going to find ourselves right back here again in four, eight, or twelve years.
Update: Well now the Clinton Campaign is officially participating in this recount effort.
Good for them!
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Thursday, November 24, 2016
Citing “compelling evidence of voting anomalies” the Green Party's Jill Stein raises over 3 million dollars for a recount in three states.
Courtesy of The Guardian:
Jill Stein, the Green party’s presidential candidate, is prepared to request recounts of the election result in several key battleground states, her campaign said on Wednesday.
Stein launched an online fundraising page seeking donations toward a multimillion-dollar fund she said was needed to request reviews of the results in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Before midnight EST on Wednesday, the drive had already raised more than the $2m necessary to file for a recount in Wisconsin, where the deadline to challenge is on Friday. The campaign had reached $2.5m by 5am EST.
Stein said she was acting due to “compelling evidence of voting anomalies” and that data analysis had indicated “significant discrepancies in vote totals” that were released by state authorities.
“These concerns need to be investigated before the 2016 presidential election is certified,” she said in a statement. “We deserve elections we can trust.”
(Since this article was written the amount raised hos increased to over 3 million.)
I'm not gonna lie when I first heard about this I was a little suspicious of Stein's motives.
She has always seemed like a loose cannon to me, and this seemed like it could just be an attempt to keep herself in the news.
But since she WAS one of the presidential candidates she is in a unique position to demand a recount, and clearly her fundraising is on point, so I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and see how this thing plays out.
Now before any of you get too excited I still do not think this will change the outcome of his election in Hillary's favor. She has already conceded and if the Democrats tried to fight this thing I do not think it would work out well for anybody in the end.
However I would certainly like to know what exactly happened in this election, and if we do find those anomalies perhaps we can ensure that our next elections are free of manipulations.
Jill Stein, the Green party’s presidential candidate, is prepared to request recounts of the election result in several key battleground states, her campaign said on Wednesday.
Stein launched an online fundraising page seeking donations toward a multimillion-dollar fund she said was needed to request reviews of the results in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
Before midnight EST on Wednesday, the drive had already raised more than the $2m necessary to file for a recount in Wisconsin, where the deadline to challenge is on Friday. The campaign had reached $2.5m by 5am EST.
Stein said she was acting due to “compelling evidence of voting anomalies” and that data analysis had indicated “significant discrepancies in vote totals” that were released by state authorities.
“These concerns need to be investigated before the 2016 presidential election is certified,” she said in a statement. “We deserve elections we can trust.”
(Since this article was written the amount raised hos increased to over 3 million.)
I'm not gonna lie when I first heard about this I was a little suspicious of Stein's motives.
She has always seemed like a loose cannon to me, and this seemed like it could just be an attempt to keep herself in the news.
But since she WAS one of the presidential candidates she is in a unique position to demand a recount, and clearly her fundraising is on point, so I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and see how this thing plays out.
Now before any of you get too excited I still do not think this will change the outcome of his election in Hillary's favor. She has already conceded and if the Democrats tried to fight this thing I do not think it would work out well for anybody in the end.
However I would certainly like to know what exactly happened in this election, and if we do find those anomalies perhaps we can ensure that our next elections are free of manipulations.
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Friday, October 24, 2014
So why is Joni Ernst gathering information about recount procedures a week and a half before the election?
Courtesy of TPM:
Iowa state Sen. Joni Ernst (R) this week requested materials on recount procedures, signaling that she might be gearing up for a recount request in the Iowa Senate race against Rep. Bruce Braley (D-IA).
Ernst filed open records requests in multiple counties for training materials, satellite voting locations, names of ballot counters, recount procedures and any thing also sent to Braley, The Gazette reported.
Such a large record request so close to an election is unusual for candidates, multiple Iowa auditors told The Gazette.
"I think they’re gearing up for a recount," Johnson County Auditor Travis Weipert said.
Okay well there are two ways to take this.
One is that the Ernst campaign is thinking proactively with an abundance of caution.
Or that they expect to lose and like many recent GOP candidates will simply refuse to accept defeat until they have exhausted all possible challenges?
Yeah I am going to go with the latter.
Iowa state Sen. Joni Ernst (R) this week requested materials on recount procedures, signaling that she might be gearing up for a recount request in the Iowa Senate race against Rep. Bruce Braley (D-IA).
Ernst filed open records requests in multiple counties for training materials, satellite voting locations, names of ballot counters, recount procedures and any thing also sent to Braley, The Gazette reported.
Such a large record request so close to an election is unusual for candidates, multiple Iowa auditors told The Gazette.
"I think they’re gearing up for a recount," Johnson County Auditor Travis Weipert said.
Okay well there are two ways to take this.
One is that the Ernst campaign is thinking proactively with an abundance of caution.
Or that they expect to lose and like many recent GOP candidates will simply refuse to accept defeat until they have exhausted all possible challenges?
Yeah I am going to go with the latter.
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