I almost don't want to give this any attention since that is what Alex Jones wants, but it is kind of hard to ignore something this ugly and manipulative.
The gray haired guy that Jones is trying to get Cenk Uygar to argue with is Roger Stone that POS who writes fact free books and articles about the Clintons.
As for Alex Jones he has been wandering around Cleveland trying to start trouble for days now. (I covered another one of his pathetic attempts to garner attention on Wednesday.)
I have long stopped being a fan of the Cenk Uygur and the Young Turks even before they started pushing conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton during their pro-Sanders propaganda period these last several months.
However part of me would really have liked to see Uygar punch that chubby fuck Alex Jones in the face, even though I realize that is exactly the kind of conflict that Jones was angling for.
Here is more from Mediaite.
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Tuesday, August 13, 2013
Very interesting, and much more revealing, interview with Reza Aslan, author of "Zealot."
I usually do not post videos that are this long but I did this time because I found this interview to be very interesting in that it explains what Aslan believes about the existence of Jesus, how much of what we think we know about Jesus is accurate, and how he, a scholar who studies religions, can remain an adherent of Islam.
Essentially Aslan is saying that nobody is supposed to take what is written in the Bible literally, including the words attributed to Jesus, but that what was written was supposed to provide a description of what the authors wanted readers to believe went on and describe the kind of man that people already believed Jesus to be.
He essentially says that where modern believers go wrong is in their desire to take what is written in the Bible as literal fact, when in fact it is Gospel truth, in that it is meant to impart a deeper "truth" about who they believed Jesus and other Biblical figures were rather than to paint an accurate picture of who they were and what they said.
Personally I find that explanation fascinating. To me it appears that the first step toward understanding the teachings in the Bible, or Quran, is to simply have faith, and to read them from that perspective, since without faith the books are of no value, either historically or as factual account of the lives of the characters within.
Since I simply cannot get past that first hurdle, my readings of the Bible have left me confused and sorely unimpressed.
Now another thing that Cenk Uygur was able to get out of Aslan, is the answer to a question that has been driving me crazy since I saw his first interview concerning this book.
You see Aslan has essentially destroyed one of my most personally held beliefs about the study of religion. And that is that somebody who REALLY studied religion, and compared them to one another, simply could NOT continue to be a person of faith.
Aslan's answer still leaves me with a lot of question about his faith, but it does answer the question, to some degree, as to how a learned individual could still believe in a supernatural being "beyond the materiel world."
I especially enjoyed this quote "Anyone who says 'I believe in Christianity' or I believe in Islam' misses the point. Christianity and Islam are not 'things to believe' they are signposts to God. They are a means to an end, not an end in and of themselves."
I don't think this is the way much of Christianity is presented in this country, but it does make some sense.
Of course I still don't find myself compelled to believe any of it, but at least I can respect a learned person wanting to find a way to relate to something that they take on faith alone.
Essentially Aslan is saying that nobody is supposed to take what is written in the Bible literally, including the words attributed to Jesus, but that what was written was supposed to provide a description of what the authors wanted readers to believe went on and describe the kind of man that people already believed Jesus to be.
He essentially says that where modern believers go wrong is in their desire to take what is written in the Bible as literal fact, when in fact it is Gospel truth, in that it is meant to impart a deeper "truth" about who they believed Jesus and other Biblical figures were rather than to paint an accurate picture of who they were and what they said.
Personally I find that explanation fascinating. To me it appears that the first step toward understanding the teachings in the Bible, or Quran, is to simply have faith, and to read them from that perspective, since without faith the books are of no value, either historically or as factual account of the lives of the characters within.
Since I simply cannot get past that first hurdle, my readings of the Bible have left me confused and sorely unimpressed.
Now another thing that Cenk Uygur was able to get out of Aslan, is the answer to a question that has been driving me crazy since I saw his first interview concerning this book.
You see Aslan has essentially destroyed one of my most personally held beliefs about the study of religion. And that is that somebody who REALLY studied religion, and compared them to one another, simply could NOT continue to be a person of faith.
Aslan's answer still leaves me with a lot of question about his faith, but it does answer the question, to some degree, as to how a learned individual could still believe in a supernatural being "beyond the materiel world."
I especially enjoyed this quote "Anyone who says 'I believe in Christianity' or I believe in Islam' misses the point. Christianity and Islam are not 'things to believe' they are signposts to God. They are a means to an end, not an end in and of themselves."
I don't think this is the way much of Christianity is presented in this country, but it does make some sense.
Of course I still don't find myself compelled to believe any of it, but at least I can respect a learned person wanting to find a way to relate to something that they take on faith alone.
Thursday, January 06, 2011
Cenk Uygur responds to Ann Coulter calling him "retarded."
For those of you joining us late, here is my post about this from yesterday.
By the way this is day two, and so far NO angry tweet from Snowdrift Snooki. Of course perhaps she is too busy getting tested for STD's to take the time to unholster her Blackberries.
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