Tuesday, February 21, 2012

Franklin Graham arrogantly implies that Obama is not a true Christian while embarrassing himself and his faith on Morning Joe.



We live in a country that declares in its Constitution, Article VI paragraph 3, that there will be, "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States," and yet no President has ever been elected to office who did not declare that he was a Christian.

And now that there is a black man in the White House, even THAT is not good enough. Now the President has to be the "right kind" of Christian.

At least according to this monstrous douchebag Franklin Graham.

Graham also expresses displeasure with the Arab Spring sweeping across the Middle East because collaterally Christians have been killed and terrorized, despite the fact that this was the will of the people and in many cases they had suffered great hardship and even death at the hands of those they had now overthrown. But to Graham that really does not count because to him a Christian life is worth far more than the life of a Muslim.

It is beyond clear that Franklin Graham has NO interest in a Democratic America, and clearly supports a theocracy, which I also believe is the underlying desire of Rick Santorum as well.

As if these arrogant pricks have any right to tell people how to live, love, and raise their families.

Thankfully John Heilemann is on this panel to call Franklin Graham out on the double standard that he applies to certain politicians, giving Rick Santorum a pass, and doing everything but calling President Obama and Mitt Romney pagans.

This interview completely pissed me of, and I found myself yelling back at Graham, and wanting to tell this hypocritical bastard just what I think of his religious litmus test and desire to impose HIS definition of morality on the American people.

91 comments:

  1. Anonymous12:02 PM

    If Joe and Mika were there today, there would have been no push back to Franklin's nonsense.

    Franklin loves the Palin's.. out of wedlock kids, never going to church... what he would call "real Christians".

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  2. WakeUpAmerica12:02 PM

    I watched it this morning on Morning Joe. Arrogant prick.

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  3. Anonymous12:05 PM

    Franklin Graham is a friend of Sarah Palin's! Are we surprised? The guy, as well as Palin, do not act as 'christians' that is for sure. I'll bet his Dad would be embarrassed by him and his statements! What a jerk!!!

    I'm glad they actually called him on his statement on TV. Yea!!! More and more of this needs to be done.

    I wish I could see all of their faces when President Obama is reelected. The Republican party is screwing themselves so badly!
    Most Americans across the nation do not agree w/their take on religion (what happened to the separation of church and state?) or contraception and abortion. Thank God!!!!

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  4. Anonymous12:07 PM

    Our Franklin obviously isn't the most intelligent son ever to inherit his father's business- he's doing his best for God's sake!

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  5. Polly Hussein Smith12:08 PM

    I so appreciate coming to this blog everyday and finding the news that you dig up. - How do you keep your sanity? - Thank you for the dedication and hard work. I have a business blog and know what kind of commitment goes into this effort.

    The arrogance of Graham and his crowd is everything that Jesus fought against. "False shepherds" is a kind understatement for these people.

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  6. Anonymous12:14 PM

    Having posted the link to the segment in your previous blog, I have to say -- I found the segment far better than anything when Joe & Mika are there. I cheered when Heilemann called him out. The others took him on too like Willie. When Joe & Mika are there, they really don't. Like their Joe's lapdogs.

    Joe and Mika are two fucking lapdogs to their guests -- they suck the toes of everyone that appears on their show. Time for MSNBC to fire both of the whores. Joe for his ignorance and arrogance of overspeak and only 'his spew is right' - Mika for being the stunned bitch sitting there and being walked all over. For anyone that refers to her as being a good model for women -- needs their head examined. Her book -- total fucking bullshit. As long as Donny drops her mega $$ shoes on her -- she's happy to be a doormat and her mug on TV. I'm sure she gets other perks too (wink, wink).

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  7. Anonymous12:19 PM

    O/T (read on earlier blog post. Worth reading link as in WOW)

    Santorum has been exposed. His skeletons are falling out of the closet!!

    Was on Board of Directors 2007 to 2011 of Universal Health Services, Inc. (UHS), one of the country's largest hospital chains.

    "Rick Santorum-Linked Hospital Chain Saw Suicide Attempts, Abuse, And Loss Of Parents' Rights"

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/rick-santorum-uhs-hospitals-patient-rights_n_1276403.html

    And this moron is now spewing in his stump speeches about the 'death panels' that came to life by you know who in the healthcare period. I think we know who the true 'Murderer' is.

    When asked, he has avoided answering questions about this topic as they have been nailed by DOJ for millions re medicaid fraud, bribery of doctors, etc.

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  8. Anonymous12:21 PM

    Settle down and step back for a bit. The unfortunate fact is that this kristyun pig hater has an audience to speak his trash to. In fact he has the majority of the people in your country who sympathize with his sky fairy nonsense. And here's what's important to you. He is your fucking enemy and you need to be his enemy. You must come to the point where you unequivocally condemn this religious haters every time they try to pass off their bullshit and hate here on your blog. Because, they are the majority and will continue to be as long as decent people abide with their trash talk.

    So the choice is yours, you can be faithful to the truth which you believe is right or you can dance with the kristyuns in order to keep your numbers up.

    You as an atheist are not alone. It's up to each and every one of us to fight back in the same ugly ruthless manner that they are fighting against us.

    We are on the side of right and good. They are on the side of just more hate and exclusion of all who won't pay their taxes of submission.

    Stop what you're doing now and smarten the fuck up. That's how you will eventually find the satisfaction in knowing that you have done good and right for humanity.
    Luv from Canada where we are now in the majority.

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  9. Anonymous12:22 PM

    Glad to see I'm not the only one that thinks the same about Joe and Mika. (Anon 12:02)

    I just posted my vent about them as they both suck the toes of their guests. Joe's overspeak and arrogance. FIRE THEM from MSNBC!!! as tired of Joe's bullshit and lies that he spews ad nauseam buth thinks he's god's gift.

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  10. Anonymous12:23 PM

    Thank God I'm a Hindu, do not have Nuts to listen to or preach to us :)

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  11. I thought I was the only one yelling at the TV. I say bad words too! Scares the cats! Thanks for your sanity! VJ

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  12. Anonymous12:28 PM

    Graham rode his father's coat tails into religious wealth. Just as the Bush sons latched onto their grandfather, then father into the family "bidness" of politics. When you do that, you do not have to be good at what you do, just make sure everyone is aware of the relationship. Surely Graham could afford a beter hairpiece than that? Does he go to $carah's hair salon? Incidentally, I doubt that God would look favorably on a man who pretends to help the poor, while flying all over in a private jet.

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  13. this guy disgusts me.....separation of church and state!!

    obama's obviously a christian....this guy pushing Jesus and insinuating obama isnt christian infuriates me

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  14. Anonymous12:32 PM

    The IRS should immediately start an investigation into this fraud's 501 (c)3 status.

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  15. Anonymous12:39 PM

    Gryphen, according to the ADN, Palin's emails were supposed to be released yesterday. Have you heard anything about that?

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  16. Anonymous12:44 PM

    O/T -

    Santorum - In a December 1995 Philadelphia Magazine article -- which the Huffington Post pulled from Temple University archives -- Santorum conceded that he "was basically pro-choice all my life, until I ran for Congress... But it had never been something I thought about." Asked why he changed his mind, he said that he "sat down and read the literature. Scientific literature," only to correct himself and note that religion was a part of it too.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/rick-santorum-abortion_n_1291634.html?1329857544

    Oh Ricky -- it was good knowing ya!! Bye - Bye!!!!!

    It's only Feb but feels like Halloween -- Ricky's skeletons and ghosts are coming out of the closet!!!

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  17. Anonymous12:45 PM

    When Reverend Wright's combative sermons were run on a continuous loop for weeks on TV, Senator Obama sure as hell was considered a Christian by the wingnuts. But once that uppity Black guy got elected President he suddenly turned into something else. A follower of Islam and all the dark and evil things that come with that religion. These a-holes are so transparent it makes me gag. I'd rather the President worshiped snake charmers than be a part of their so called religion.

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  18. Believe In Me12:49 PM

    Arrogant prick! Playing the holy card for money. God is his boss so he can do no wrong without being able to ask for forgiveness and get it. It's a deck full of aces and they're all his to play. WTF? Arrogant prick!
    So if some not so good christian shoots the prick all they have to do is ask Jesus for forgiveness (from the heart of course)and they still get to heaven? Sign me up!

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  19. Anonymous12:50 PM

    Graham is a hypocrite. Gingrich, the man that been married three times is a Christian. I wish they told him to get off the set because he is a phony. I loved how they corrected him by saying "President Obama" on live TV. These bigots have such a hard time saying the phrase that they need to be put on the spot like Graham was.

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  20. Anonymous12:51 PM

    Franklin Graham is racist Anti-American scum. He has a problem with President Obama because of his skin color. End of story.

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  21. Anonymous12:52 PM

    Franklin is not a real christian. He is the devil.

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  22. Anonymous12:54 PM

    Franklin Graham is not a Christian.

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  23. Anonymous12:59 PM

    Wow. Franklin Graham was not making a rational argument at all. He says he believes a person is a christian by their walk, and thinks Santorum walks the walk, probably because Rick's stand against abortion.

    And, Franklin believes NEWT is a christian, based on his walk. They ask what about his 3 wives, and the answer is well, he told me he is and he goes to church.

    But, Franklin reserves his belief on Mitt and President Obama, with Mitt being the Mormon, and President Obama not telling Franklin that he went to church because as community organizer, he was expected to join a church, therefore President Obama, even though he is a good family man and goes to church every Sunday, doesn't convince Franklin that he's a christian yet.

    That man is shameful. As a christian myself, I can't believe what I just heard him say. It makes me almost want to weep.

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  24. Anonymous1:02 PM

    So sick of these hypocritical so called religious ppl. They really don't have christian values. They think they can do anything say anything as long as they beat the abortion drum, contraception no good- since when? All these so called preachers aren't nothing but motival speakers and getting money hand over fist. I think that since they are so into politics they should all start paying taxes. OR shut up and stand in the corner.

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  25. Anonymous1:07 PM

    Disgusting pig!

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  26. Anonymous1:20 PM

    I'm sure Franklin Graham wouldn't consider me a Christian either. What gall these far-right politicians and their hangers-on have! And who would expect that they would get time on national television to rant and rave? What has happened to political discourse in this country? Our founding fathers, who would not be approved of by the likes of Franklin Graham, must be rolling over in their graves.

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  27. Anonymous1:22 PM

    Wouldn't surprise me in the least if $arah and he have done the horizontal mambo. Peas in a pod.

    That's the thing with these people. All they need to say is they're Christian and a sinner but forgiven, and they think it gives them carte blanche to do say or do anything they want. This is SO against the teachings of Christ. Yes, I'm talking to YOU TOO, Queen Esther!

    Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing.

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  28. Anonymous1:25 PM

    Franklin showed his true colors. He is trying to form an alliance of churches with the Roman Catholics, Mormons not included, and place his 'man' in the White House that will proclaim himself as the protector of this alliance.

    Mr. Graham says his job is to find out who is christian so that he can endorse his favorite political candidates. Does he think this is what he's called for? He hasn't a clue as to what a shepherd's job is then. Any man of the cloth who teaches that the church must elect "their" leader and involve himself with the affairs of State is falling into that same trap that the traditional churches of Europe did. Then people would lose their voice, lose their rights, and the country would be ruled by iron-fisted religious zealots.

    I have faith that believer, both protestant and catholic, can see through this charade.

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  29. Anonymous1:25 PM

    I wrote off Fake-lin Graham when I heard how chummy he is with that moron Sarah Palin (by the way, when was the last time SHE set foot in a church?)

    I live close to Charlotte, NC so whenever I drive by the Billy Graham Library or Samaritan's Purse (with its giant red letters that can be seen from the interstate) I just shake my head. They'll never see a penny from me and I pity those that continue to line this charlatan's pockets.

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  30. Anonymous1:28 PM

    White House Press Secretary Jay Carney Responds To Franklin Graham’s Morning Joe Comments

    ...Asked if the President had any reaction to Graham’s remarks, Carney responded, “He firmly believes that getting an extra $40 in every paycheck is of vastly greater significance to most Americans than someone’s opinion, expressed on cable television, about his personal faith, which again, he has spoken about explicitly as recently as a few weeks ago, at the National Prayer Service.”

    Now, this “controversy will feed the gaping maws of the hydra-headed media beast. The mainstream media will soberly recount the he said, she said about President Obama’s religion (and decide that he is a Christian), liberals will be rightly outraged at Graham’s presumptuousness (and perhaps at the fact that any news show bothers to book Rev. Graham; why not get Bobby Flay to talk foreign policy?), and conservatives will alternately amplify Graham’s claims, and decry how he’s making them all look bad.

    In other words, a good time will be had by all.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/white-house-press-secretary-jay-carney-responds-to-franklin-grahams-morning-joe-comments/

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  31. Anonymous1:31 PM

    What this illustrates is the blinding ignorance of the so called religious right. This man is a con artist. Religion, like the kind being professed by the Republican these days, is an abomination. There is not a day goes by when I am thankful that I live in Canada. At least atheists make an INFORMED decision unlike goose stepping "believers".

    As for Santorum and his looney tune rants about how pre-natal screening leads to abortion - BULLSHIT. My best friend's first child had a birth defect involving his feet and the pre-natal screening allowed for the paediatric orthopaedist to be ready to examine him the day after his birth and make plans for remedial treatment.

    Your country is heading towards becoming a theocracy because corporations and the 1% are trying to beat you down with their dollar bills and Bibles.

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  32. What would Franklin Graham know about Christianity, aside from its high value as a fundraising scheme?

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  33. Anonymous1:33 PM

    I wish people would quit calling Graham a pig. Pigs are highly intelligent creatures. It is an insult to them to associate the two. Not all pigs rolll around in the mud and I should know!

    Signed,

    Miss Piggy

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  34. scarlet/oregon1:35 PM

    I'm sure Old Graham's Christian monetary values mirror his friend $arah's so he really doesn't understand President Obama's Christian values of humility and faithfulness.

    Why doesn't somebody ask Mr. Graham what his salaries are let alone the non-taxable worth of his Christian Company Churches?

    His Christian'brothers'at TBN seem to also be skimming from the Government by avoiding taxes....

    "Trinity Christian Center, a nonprofit in the eyes of Uncle Sam, does not have to pay taxes on its income. It reported revenues of $175.6 million, expenses of $193.7 million, and net assets of $827.6 million at the end of 2010, according to its tax returns.

    Its highest-paid officer was Paul Crouch, with compensation of $400,000."

    All tax-exempt!

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  35. Anonymous1:35 PM

    Franklin Graham is the dark side of populism. In other words, evil.

    Is it any wonder that $arah likes to pal around with this fraud?

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  36. Anonymous1:36 PM

    Here’s a moment in recent history that you’ll be hearing a lot about this week: In a 2008 speech given at Ave Maria University (a Catholic institution), current presidential hopeful Rick Santorum warned those gathered that “Satan has his sights on the United States of America.”

    “This is not a political war at all. This is not a cultural war at all. This is a spiritual war,” he said, describing how American institutions and our nation’s way of life are falling to evil forces. “And the Father of Lies has his sights on what you would think the Father of Lies, Satan, would have his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country – the United States of America. If you were Satan, who would you attack in this day and age?”

    Santorum went on to recount how Satan had more trouble corrupting the United States when the country was first founded, because our foundation was (and still is) very strong. But time, he added, corrodes “even the strongest of foundations.” So Satan soldiers on, using “pride, vanity and sensuality” to attack American institutions. Vanity, for instance, was instrumental in attacking those in academia, in institution meant to educate “the elites.”

    Even other religions, he added, are not exempt from Satan’s grasp. “We look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country,” he said, “and it is in shambles. It is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it.”

    The NBA, rock concerts and movie screens all exhibit, he continued, the decay of American decency.

    Have a listen:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/media-shifts-attention-to-rick-santorums-2008-speech-about-satans-influence-on-u-s/

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  37. Anonymous1:40 PM

    “Rick Santorum is just one of the phoniest… ugh… just a wretched individual!”

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/don-imus-rips-into-rick-santorum-calls-him-a-wretched-individual/

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  38. Anonymous1:43 PM

    Nice toupee...sanctimonious hypocrite.

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  39. Anonymous1:43 PM

    Well his litmus test is flawed as Catholics don't believe in accepting Jesus Christ as their "Lord and Savior" by confession. I think catholics believe in taking a wafer or something.

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  40. Anonymous1:47 PM

    Raising Satan against Santorum

    ...Per ABC News, the full quotes came in a speech in which Santorum said that the issue of denying communion to politicians supporting abortion rights related to a "spiritual war:"


    “While we all see all this as a great political conflict in warfare between the Obama camp and the McCain camp and culture wars, what Bishop Aquila put his finger on and what I think, I suspect those of you who are here understand, this is not a political war at all. This is not a cultural war. This is a spiritual war,” Santorum said.


    “And the Father of Lies has his sights on what you would think the Father of Lies would have his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country, the United States of America. If you were Satan, who would you attack in this day and age. There is no one else to go after other than the United States and that has been the case now for almost 200 years, once America’s preeminence was sown by our great Founding Fathers.”

    more>>

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/02/raising-satan-against-santorum-115112.html

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  41. Anonymous1:48 PM

    Coffee Break: Birth Control Hearings (Redux)

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/02/coffee-break-birth-control-hearings-redux-115092.html

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  42. Anonymous1:54 PM

    THANK GOD I'M AN ATHEIST!

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  43. Anonymous1:56 PM

    I remember last year after the Haiti earthquake, that Graham had flown Palin to the island in one of his many jets which Samaritan Purse has. Was he trying to teach her international foreign policy as the locals wanted to touch her hand which she reeled from? Or was he trying to be a mentor in case she decided to run for Pres? Second Harvest is struggling trying to feed the poor and yet he can fly her around?

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  44. Anonymous1:58 PM

    Do you have to attend a church to be a Christian? I don't believe that is true.

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  45. Anonymous2:02 PM

    The Nazis could have used Franklin Graham's expertise to figure out who was supposed to board the trains headed to the concentration camps.

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  46. Anonymous2:06 PM

    If he thought he could get away with it, Franklin Graham would say President Obama drinks baby blood. Franklin Graham sells hate not religion. It's been a profitable business since daddy got it going years ago.

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  47. Anonymous2:10 PM

    In the words of Gandhi: I like your Christ but I don't like your Christians.
    Hypocrites!! This is one of many reasons I no longer believe in any of them; all of them.

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  48. Anonymous2:13 PM

    Read more about this asshole here:

    http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/antheabutler/5719/graham_whistles_“dixie”_on_morning_joe/

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  49. no one should be surprised that graham is a racist, after all his father was a known anti- semite who only "confessed" after being caught on tape.

    but the reality is graham like his father and like palin even, do not lose support for their blatant racism because THAT is exactly the followers they wish to reach.
    hate is more powerful then love when your looking for reasons to get stupid people to send you their money.

    graham takes many millions of dollars for preaching his hate and could careless who is offended .
    remember these people only reflect the other people who support them.
    racism is big business and graham like palin intend to cash in.

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  50. Anonymous2:14 PM

    No wonder Santorum lost his last election in his homestate by such a huge percentage! He and Franklin Graham are something else to behold!!!!

    Thank God President Obama will be reelected in a landslide. I can hardly wait to see the look on these jerk's faces when it happens next November.

    Santorum, Graham and Gingrich are not in touch with the majority of Americans across the nation!!

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  51. Anonymous2:18 PM

    How Rick Santorum could take the whole Republican party down with him

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/rick-santorum-could-take-republicans-down-with-him/2012/02/20/gIQA8Af8PR_story.html

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  52. Anonymous2:20 PM

    I'm glad Joe and Mika were not present at hosting the show w/Graham this morning! They never would have asked him the hard questions that were actually done by the other cohosts they have on the show.

    More interviewers need to ask questions of their guests when they make idiotic statements or lie through their teeth. The viewers know the questions to ask or responses to make. Why don't they? Get tough journalists and interviewers!

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  53. Anonymous2:23 PM

    When Rick Is President

    http://whenrickispresident.com/

    Add yours. You can click on the title and it will move to the next idea.

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  54. Anonymous2:24 PM

    GOP pollster: ‘Run, Barack, Run’ sticker belongs on front bumper | Fox News contributor Frank Luntz on Monday made a suggestion about running over the nation’s first black president with his car.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/21/gop-pollster-run-barack-run-sticker-belongs-on-front-bumper/

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  55. In Australia, our Prime Minister is an atheist. Who cares so long as she runs our Country well.
    We don't have to put up with the bull $hit you Americans do.
    Isn't American a beacon the rest of the world should look too. I think not. These so called Christians can't take their foot out of your Government.

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  56. Anonymous2:28 PM

    Sarah Palin needs to bury the "Game Change" movie in a steady stream of non-news. Franklin Graham is a pro at self-promotion, any publicity is great for his religion racket. He knows how to be "controversial" enough to get headlines. Sarah Palin probably has lined up a series of Graham-like talent to roil the news cycle and drown "Game Change".

    Sarah Palin is stupid. But she knows how to make her buddies do the dirty for her.

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  57. Anonymous2:29 PM

    Franklin Graham is proof that you can say you're a Christian and be the exact opposite. WWJD Franklin?

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  58. Anonymous2:30 PM

    Anybody associated and identifies with Sarah Palin is not a Christian in my book.

    Does anybody know what Graham's financial worth is?

    That could be why he backs Palin.

    The almighty dollar bonds them!

    Orrrr Graham wants to lay hands on her?

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  59. Anonymous2:32 PM

    The christian "brand" is most valuable when used to label "the other" as evil.

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  60. ibwilliamsi2:34 PM

    No, asswipe, YOU have to ask Obama if he is a Christian because YOU are a fucking traitorous piece of shit.

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  61. Anonymous2:41 PM

    Join the crowd Grypen,I have yelled at these people for quite some time.

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  62. Anonymous2:41 PM

    Ok, Mr. Franklin Graham, how do we know YOU are a Christian? What do you have that President Obama doesn't have? Other than, well, the obvious difference in intelligence, of course.

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  63. Anonymous2:43 PM

    His mom locked him in the trunk too many times.

    His father (Billy) has already declared himself to believe that President Obama IS a christian.

    What do these assholes think? That the President can run into any church any time it passes his fancy?

    Can you imagine the bitching that would go on to pay for security for a President to attend a public church every Sunday?

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  64. Anonymous2:46 PM

    Can we take this as "lessons from my father"......

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  65. Anonymous2:49 PM

    I agree with the poster who thinks the guy would have been a great gatekeeper in the Nazi camps.

    Franklin is a very sick human. And like my mom always said, you are judged by the people you hang out with. Palin fits his friend profile perfectly.

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  66. Merry2:51 PM

    Hey, from over here in NY state we are enjoying all these side shows immensely. We are pulling for Santorum. It's all good.

    Democracy will overcome all this crazy right wing adversity. Yes, it will!

    Keep on keeping on, Gman

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  67. Anonymous said...
    Well his litmus test is flawed as Catholics don't believe in accepting Jesus Christ as their "Lord and Savior" by confession. I think catholics believe in taking a wafer or something.
    1:43 PM
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    With all due respect, your statement is completely incorrect. You might want to consider consulting a Catholic source regarding what the church teaches regarding salvation.

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  68. Just to repeat what many have been saying for months - the republicans have virtually no legitimate ways to criticize the President. They choose to pander to old white men over and over while losing every other voter.

    The level of stupidity coming out of the mouths of GOP supporters has lost its ability to amaze - the level of intelligence is coming down to meet that of Sarah Palin.

    The majority of us stay with the religion of our birth (or become atheists). Like the color of our skin, it is not something easily changed. My view of those who do change (within the bounds of Christian sects) - it is usually for non religious reasons - partners and/or money being the main reason.

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  69. Anonymous3:07 PM

    1:36 -

    So Satan soldiers on, using “pride, vanity and sensuality” to attack American institutions.

    I don't think it's an oversight that he left out GREED.

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  70. Enjay in E MT3:14 PM

    Altho I don't agree with Graham or his ilk - he did keep saying "ask the president" (he cannot read what is in another persons heart) and pointed out Obama has said he is a Christian. More than what Santorum did when one of his voters said Obama is a Muslim.

    Another point that came up (& no I didn't listen to all of it) is Santorum saying Obama has a different "Theocracy" over the weekend. I'll give Santorum benefit of the doubt he MEANT Philosophy. To me - that is one of the credits I give to Obama - he wasn't raised on Lake Ave. in Chicago or Hampton beach front property, he lived in other countries, other cultures / religions, - he experienced life outside the US. So, of course, his "world view" is going to be different than someone who only vacationed in the Rosa Zones in another country.

    Another, highly visible plus (IMHO) for Obama was being raised by a hard working educated loving mother & grandparents. Obviously, Santorum was not and his beliefs reflect his low opinion & lack of respect of women.

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  71. Anonymous3:19 PM

    Whatever happened to Christian teachings of "love thy neighbor"?

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  72. Not caught up on comments, so someone may have mentioned already...

    But I found it ironic and absurd that, near the end there, he says several times, "well this is my business"..just like you guys read the newspapers, dont you??

    BUSINESS is right - as in, income, and profit margin.

    Damn this charlatan !!!

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  73. Anonymous3:23 PM

    Mathews 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves"

    Sarah Palin
    Franklin Graham
    Rick Santorum
    Newt Gingrich

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  74. Anonymous3:24 PM

    Finally - Tamron Hall on MSNBC interviewed a Doctor from Univ. Hospitals Case Medical Center, Cleveland, OH, a leading neo-natal facility on to debunk Santorum's rhetoric about prenatal care. Dr. Greenfield was excellent in the interview!!

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#46469527

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  75. Anonymous3:25 PM

    Franklin Graham must now submit his long form certificate of christianess AND prove he has not lapsed since it was issued. Signature by Jesus Christ himself is the preferred document but Franklin Graham probably thinks all he needs is a note from his daddy.

    When the good lord was handing out genes for logic, Franklin Graham was in the other line getting the gene for grifting.

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  76. Anonymous3:35 PM

    Michael Steele told Graham that he'd been speaking to "young folks" (I'm assuming young Republicans) who were concerned about politicians focusing on religion. Of course, Graham turned it around - completely ignoring the actual import of the question - and brought up the HHS birth control controversy. Too bad nobody called him on that.

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  77. Anonymous3:36 PM

    Palin, Graham, Santorum, etc. are the same as the religious Pharisees Jesus kicked out of the temple for fleecing the people. It's all about money and power for them and if Jesus himself told them he supported universal healthcare these "Christians" would crucify him again. The problem is not true Christianity. The problem is extremists bastardizing it for their own ends.

    To all of my fellow Christians who are also saddened by this, read Psalms 37 and also visit www.sojo.net. There are many Christian progressives out there who get it right. And to the atheists,including Gryphen, there is a big difference between the life, character and teachings of Jesus and the cruel lies these wolves in sheeps clothing have been spouting. Obama 2012!

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  78. Always remember, the average person is of average intelligence, and intellectual bullshit will always flow downstream until it finds an average home.

    Also and too, who the fuck cares what this useless asshole says. fuck him and the horse he rode in on. he's a mindless eunuch followed by even lesser schmucks.

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  79. Anonymous3:49 PM

    Gryphen, I've also been yelling at the TV news a lot lately, especially when that idiot Santorum is spewing his assholery. Also flipping him "the bird" as we used to say. Yes, juvenile, I know, but oh, so satisfying.

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  80. Anonymous5:05 PM

    Franklin Graham is not his father's Oldsmobile. You would never hear this sort of horsepockey emanating from Billy Graham's mouth, and Graham himself often found himself confounded by the tricky shoals of politics. But he responded and recanted or reclarified in honest fashion.

    As a Christian, it feeds my heart to the brim to read all of the comments on this blog because I feel them to be spot on. And yes, even when Gryph goes postal on the Christians, his basis is much the same as Jesus's. (You won't mind me saying that, will you Gryph?) The hypocrisy, the posing, the manipulation to serve human, financial, political and social power by means religious. It's disgusting.

    It's disgusting enough if you are an atheist. Believe me, it hurts double if you are a Christian, or any other person of faith.

    Just sayin' - you don't have to believe in Christ to at least ponder this notion - this was the exact message this guy dedicated his whole life and death to exposing, trying to lift and empower the human spirit beyond such political, financial and self serving garbage.

    It seems the Pharisees will ever be among us. They do not go quietly into this good night.

    MicMac

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  81. Anonymous5:06 PM

    Franklin Graham = $$. Enough said.

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  82. Anonymous5:24 PM

    Anonymous said...

    I wish people would quit calling Graham a pig. Pigs are highly intelligent creatures. It is an insult to them to associate the two. Not all pigs rolll around in the mud and I should know!

    Signed,

    Miss Piggy
    1:33 PM
    ******
    Sorry Miss Piggy!
    I know Pigs are lovely creatures and they have their own personalities!
    I guess peeps are just trying to call Franklin Graham a greedy, money grubbing, hubristic BASTARD!!!!
    There I said it.
    Carry on Miss P :)
    We love those little critters :)

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  83. Anonymous5:42 PM

    It wasn't too long ago that Frank said that he preferred Trump to be the GOP candidate.

    I wonder who arranged Frank's appearance on MSNBC. The International Criminal Court (ICC) issued arrest warrants for the President of Sudan charging him with crimes against humanity, war crimes and the genocide of three groups of people. And NATO and Amnesty International support the ICC in its findings. But Frank was against the ICC issuing those warrants because he thought that the next guy in charge could be worse. Would it be appropriate for President Obama to call a fugitive?

    Frank is stirring the pot again, trying to stir up more hatred among people with his cunning words.

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  84. Anonymous6:17 PM

    Ring, ring: "Hello, the IRS investigating office."

    "Yes, I'd like to offer some suspicious political activity by the head of a 501(c)3, which gives tax-exempt status to non-political charitable operations."

    "Go right ahead -- this isn't the first time we've heard about Samaritan's Purse and "Rev. Franklin Graham. We're starting an investigation immediately."

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  85. Anonymous6:38 PM

    Creepy! This is what happened with me and religion. Pisses me off too!

    Religious wealth... no different from wall street wealth 'cept maybe a bit more dishonest.

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  86. Anonymous6:45 PM

    Alaskans remember when Franklin accompanied Sarah to a rural Alaskan village that was suffering from high price of heating oil and going without food to pay for heat. they brought cookies for the people, had a photo op, and left. Very Christian behavior towards those experiencing hardship!! Not to worry, Chavez gave the villages oil.

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  87. Not What You Want to Hear7:07 PM

    He's horrible, and if that's what Billy Graham produced, maybe he (Billy) isn't quite the sterling man I've always thought he was.

    Franklin Graham, who jets around the world on a private plane and half a million dollar salary as the CEO of a "charity" has zero credibility to judge President Obama's commitment to a faith that, when authentically practiced, is based on grace, compassion, and HUMILITY.

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  88. Anonymous7:31 PM

    Now Romney's being a DICK. Well a bigger one than usual. Jumping on the Graham bandwagon attacking Obama and religion. He better watch it, he IS Mormon and some people have some very strong ideas about the 'cult' that it is suggested to be. He's opening a huge can of worms that he's gonna drown in. He is disgraceful.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/mitt-romney-obama-administration-religion_n_1292473.html

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  89. Anonymous7:47 PM

    Do something good today for your fellow man. When you see a bible destroy it.

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  90. Anonymous11:19 PM

    This guy seems to have a poor no moral upbringing. instead of his father preaching to the world, he should have knocked some sense to this crazy dude.

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  91. I seem to remember that Franklin once rebelled and was involved in drugs, etc. Then he found Je$u$ and became a "Christian" leader, which includes a private jet and fly-bys to stricken areas for photo ops.

    A little OT: a friend of mine has sent letters to friends asking for financial aid to help him go to Nicaragua in March to help a Christian group "build houses for the poor." Of course, these junkets only take place during the winter here in the north. I saw him recently in the local grocery store and he could not make eye contact when I asked him about his "working vacation." Was it something I said?

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