Sunday, October 30, 2011

The negative hits keep on coming for Herman Cain who is now being accused of "sexually suggestive behavior" by two female employees from his past.

"You know until I see a picture I don't know if I was a sleazeball to them or not!"
Courtesy of Politico:

During Herman Cain’s tenure as the head of the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s, at least two female employees complained to colleagues and senior association officials about inappropriate behavior by Cain, ultimately leaving their jobs at the trade group, multiple sources confirm to POLITICO. 

The women complained of sexually suggestive behavior by Cain that made them angry and uncomfortable, the sources said, and they signed agreements with the restaurant group that gave them financial payouts to leave the association. The agreements also included language that bars the women from talking about their departures. 

In a series of comments over the past 10 days, Cain and his campaign repeatedly declined to respond directly about whether he ever faced allegations of sexual harassment at the restaurant association. They have also declined to address questions about specific reporting confirming that there were financial settlements in two cases in which women leveled complaints. 

I would like to give Herb Cain the benefit of the doubt here but apparently even when given the chance to refute the allegations Cain simply cannot do so.

The latest statement came from Cain himself. In a tense sidewalk encounter Sunday morning outside the Washington bureau of CBS News — where the Republican contender had just completed an interview on “Face the Nation” — Cain evaded a series of questions about sexual harassment allegations. 

Cain said he has “had thousands of people working for me” at different businesses over the years and could not comment “until I see some facts or some concrete evidence.” His campaign staff was given the name of one woman who complained last week, and it was repeated to Cain on Sunday. He responded, “I am not going to comment on that. 

He was then asked, “Have you ever been accused, sir, in your life of harassment by a woman?” 

He breathed audibly, glared at the reporter and stayed silent for several seconds. After the question was repeated three times, he responded by asking the reporter, “Have you ever been accused of sexual harassment?” 

WTF?  Is that his answer?

Let me see if I have this straight. 

Herman Cain has had "thousands of people working for" him in the past, so he CANNOT answer whether or not he was sexually inappropriate with any of them until he sees "some facts or concrete evidence?"

Not to put too fine of a point on this, but doesn't that essentially say that in the past he WAS guilty of sexually suggestive behaviors, but is not sure he is guilty of sexually suggestive behaviors in THIS particular circumstance?

Here let me break it down for you. I have worked much of my life in occupations where there were always more women than men.  So ask me if I have ever been accused of, or brought up on charges of, sexually suggestive behaviors.

Nope.  And I don't even have to know which job, or which fellow employee, you might be talking about.

So in my opinion, considering Cain's refusal to answer with a straight forward denial, he is "Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!"

Let's see how long he holds onto that lead in the polls now!

I can see Mitt Romney's new campaign slogan now: "Hey I don't say sexually suggestive things to women and I don't give drunken speeches. How do you like me now, GOP?"


  1. Anonymous5:24 PM

    Cain countered the reporter by asking him if he had ever been accused?

    That reporter isn't running for the highest office of the land.

    It isn't so fun outside the bubble now is it Herb?

  2. Anonymous5:28 PM

    Cain's situation reminds me of Clarence Thomas when he was appointed to the Supreme Court in spite of sexual allegations against him. It will probably come down to a "he said/she said" scenario and Cain's moneyed supporters will try to drag the women's names through some dirt.

  3. Balzafiar5:32 PM

    Herman Cain & Clarence Thomas -- two peas in a pod.

    Not surprised.

  4. Grey Lensman5:36 PM

    I wouldn't put it past him to have planted the stories. He never wanted to be president, would be among the worst, and probably is shitting bricks at the possibility.

    As if there were one, but he's running scared at being exposed for the asshat he is.

  5. Anonymous5:38 PM

    Cain -- The Bagger response that 'He's one of us' -- he ain't.

    A fact that Cain was President of the National Restaurant Association (NRA!!!), he was a lobbyist in Washington on the issue of the destruction of the minimum wage.

    "Cain worked diligently in Washington and in the media to see that low-wage restaurant workers could legally be paid as little as possible, as In These Times has noted. In fact, Cain's time in the restaurant business was marked by a long and largely successful battle against minimum-wage increases, and even today, some 15 years later, many of the nation's waiters and waitresses have Cain and the restaurant lobby to thank for a federal minimum wage of $2.13 for tipped workers."

    Thanks to Cain, restaurant staff have been screwed for years.

    This plays into his 'Opportunity Zones' where it would be a free for all as to what you would be paid.

    Yea -- Cain is 'one of us' -- Bullshit. Don't ever have your back to him - he'll stab you. He's no motivational speaker -- he'd sooner destroy you.

    His smoke ad: 'I'm blowing smoke out my ass' and the smile says 'I'm gonna screw ya as I'm fake as fake can be. Now buy my book'

  6. Anonymous5:48 PM

    He's guilty..just not sure which women may be coming forward with the accusations.

  7. Anonymous5:53 PM

    Black WalNUUUTTTTT!

  8. Anonymous5:54 PM

    I know you were referring to GINO's reference to Herman as Herb, but perhaps everyone reading the blog does not know this, and thinks you are making a mistake.
    And yes, Balfaziar, he and Clarence Thomas are two "snow" peas in a pod.

  9. Anonymous5:54 PM

    Re Mitt: I'm still not wild about his judgment and values in transporting his dog in a cage atop his car at freeway speed that made the dog so frightened that he lost control of his bowels. Over a long distance. It takes a lot to do that to a dog. No, Mitt is not the man for me. But then, I'm not the GOP.

  10. Anonymous5:55 PM

    "I would like to give Herb Cain the benefit of the doubt here"


    "Cain said he has “had thousands of people working for me” at different businesses over the years and could not comment “until I see some facts or some concrete evidence.”"

    Never deny what you don't have to. Never admit to what you haven't admitted to. F#uk the liberal lamestream media. As far as telling the truth? A republican k*ch sucker??? Why ask why? Smoke 'em if you have 'em!

    Seriously. To be able to answer these types of sexing questions some people need their memories refreshed so they don't make a mistake. Like denying that something happened when there might be evidence to the contrary. It is really unfair to ask politicians these types of questions. Everyone does it don't they?

  11. Anonymous5:56 PM

    Forget pizza...he's TOAST!

  12. I suppose the correct answer might have been "accused and guilty are two different things, and yes, there were several instances in which I was accused of inappropriate behavior but the matter is settled and I cannot comment on it further."

    Or we can do it his way, and sound like a prick.

  13. Anonymous6:05 PM

    Within the Politico article linked in IM's post, it sets out:

    "Cain spokesman J.D. Gordon told POLITICO the candidate indicated to campaign officials that he was “vaguely familiar” with the charges and that the restaurant association’s general counsel had resolved the matter."

    To me, that is clearly admission of guilt in that the Association's general counsel 'resolved the matter'. How convenient.

    Politico has confirmed the identities of the two employees.

    The floodgate has opened!!!!

  14. Sally in MI6:05 PM

    And these guys just keep digging deeper and deeper into the manure pile. Anyone who is as arrogant and rich as Cain (and Perry) have no doubt made suggestive overtures to female employees. As a young married, my boss at McDonald's came on to me more than once. I ignored him, but looking back, I should have made a stink, because I'm sure he did more than come on to others. But it was 1976, I had a college degree and no teaching job, and needed the work.
    Why is it that the powerful always need to keep everyone else as low as they can? For a party that claims their ideas allow all of us to rise to the top just as they have, they sure are anxious to make sure NO ONE joins their elite little club.
    Com on America, wise up and vote the GOP out of power for the foreseeable future.

  15. Anonymous6:07 PM

    @ 5:28 - sorry, but having checks cashed as hush money is a definite paper trail. And somewhere I believe I read that Cain claimed to have had an SA complaint in which the woman ended up paying his court costs - also, let's see the docs on it.

  16. If the women are white, cain can kiss his Rice ass good-bye.

    Another case of weird sex from repugbaggers.

  17. Anonymous6:14 PM

    The people who vote GOP don't care about character or intelligence. Corruption. Sexual harassment. Whatever.

    Like former La. Gov. Edwin Edwards used to say, "unless he gets caught in bed with a dead hooker or a live boy, he's electable."

    Course Edwards just spent 10 years in the pen on charges brought up by Republicans.

    So there you have it.

  18. Anonymous6:16 PM

    Wow, don't Cain's evasive answers sound just like anthony Weiners?

  19. Anonymous6:21 PM

    hmmm....a link over at the sea of pee to a facebook page that is embedded as "palin kids enjoy Halloween" but is now getting a "facebook page down" - anyone do a screen grab before it got deep-sixed?

  20. Anonymous6:42 PM

    GOP won't care unless he's a Democrat. Anything is overlooked by those pigs.

  21. Beldar J Conehead6:43 PM

    Gryphen, you are a MAJOR buzzkill!!! First I was in love with the Coquette From Alaska and you exposed her as a rapidly aging grotesque ignorant grifter, so I shifted to Newt Gingrich and you revealed that he isnt really a newt at all but a cranky old man grasping for relevance in a political world that's long since left him in the weeds. So I shifted to T-Paw and you revealed that he quit before he even started. Then it was Crazy Eyes Shelly Bachmann and you revealed that she's called Crazy Eyes because she has CRAZY EYES! And on and on and on. There's only ONE candidate left that you havent shit on, as far as I know, so I think HE'S my candidate. Yep, it's Ricky "GOOGLE ME NOW!!!" Santorum. Hopefully you dont have anything bad to say about him. Before I send him a HANDSOME check in support of his candidacy, I suppose I really ought to Google him since that does appear to be his middle name... I'll be right back.


    Ok, I give up. Each one is more horrible than the one before AND after. That only leaves ONE person qualified by experience, intellect, temperament and human decency.

    that's right: President Barack Obama.

    btw, when strutters like Herb Cain are accused by "two" women... just wait. It never stops at two. This could be Rudy Julie Annie's chance to grab the nom!! HA ha ha ha ha ha....

  22. Anonymous6:46 PM

    It is over for Cain. This story has teeth and lots of facts. He is done.

  23. Anonymous6:46 PM

    What do you mean drop in the polls. He is a Republican, the party that likes to put women in their place. He may sky rocket now!

  24. Anonymous7:07 PM

    Points and giggles at Anonymous 5:55 P.M.'s inane ramblings.

    Everyone does it = moral certitude

    If it's a Democrat it's a mortal sin

    If it's a Republican, it's a youtful indescetion.

    lamestream media... where did I hear that before? hmmmmmmmm

  25. OT--Does Joe McG. not have any more interviews? There hasn't been anything new from him in a week and he was very active before that. G, do you know what is going on?

  26. Anonymous7:13 PM

    It seems if he wasn't guilty ofthe behavior, he would unequivocally say no. He reminds me of Justice Clarence Thomas in more ways than one, and I like him less and less the more I learn about him.

  27. Anonymous7:20 PM

    Why oh why did no one come after Palin with the same ferocity? Is it because she was a woman? Is it because she never was a serious candidate? Why the double standard?

  28. Anonymous7:22 PM

    Wait people, why the Clarence Thomas references? Am I missing something? Is it because Thomas is the only reference we have? The only other high profile "affluent" African American accused of sexually harassing women who worked for him? Sorry, this just isn't sitting well with me. If the reports are true, he's got lots in common with anyone in a position of power who used sexuality to manipulate a subordinate. The connection is too superficial and has no meaning. My apologies if there is more to it. I mean, did Thomas eat a lot of pizza, or something?

  29. Anonymous7:26 PM

    Oh so THAT'S why I found a pubic hair on my pepperoni.

  30. Anonymous7:35 PM

    The more I see and hear this guy - I don't trust him. He's too slick - or, so he thinks!

    He is NOT presidential material for the United States and Perry is even worse, but his numbers (Perry) in the polls are already reflecting it - thank God!!

  31. Anonymous7:45 PM

    I really wish they would hold the Cain stories since I think he would be a really entertaining GOP candidate. Can you imagine? And you just know Cain is crazy.

  32. Anonymous7:49 PM

    What I'm afraid of is that this feeble crew of GOP candidates will all be exposed for one thing or another and then Miss Quittypants will stride in and look like a saint compared to them.

    Hurry up Fred!!

  33. Anonymous8:01 PM

    Chuck Kopp - ding ding ding ding.
    Got any advice for Cain, Chuckie?

  34. Anonymous8:05 PM

    It's getting to be slim pickin's in the "Who's going to lose to President Obama Palooozaland". Just read the entire article on Politico and it's pretty scatheing.
    I don't care if these women were paid hush money or not. Sexual Harrassment in the workplace is wrong, period. It's even more dispicable when it's perpetrated by the person who signs the paychecks.
    His reaction and responses scream guilt.

    Off Topic: Can't wait to see the spin cycle on the GOP about S&P. The chart's been rising, it seems they've recouped since the earthquake in Japan and the market seems to be going in the right direction.

  35. Anonymous8:07 PM

    Hey, didn't Sarah Palin appoint Chuck "Sexual Harrassment" Kopp?
    Guess he was vetted as carefully as she - and he was to be the top law enforcement officer in Alaska.
    No wonder we are seen as a corrupt state!

  36. Anonymous8:15 PM

    Believable........that is all it needs to be..........

  37. Gasman8:20 PM

    One wonders how apoplectic with rage the teabaggers would be if it were revealed that sometime in Barack Obama's past he was accused of sexual harassment and made the charges go away by buying the silence of his accusers with large cash payments and binding non-disclosure agreements.

    I suspect that one of the reasons Herb is being so circumspect in his statements is that he might also be bound by confidentiality. Any outright denials that he makes might violate those agreements.

    However, here's the rub: Herbie seems congenitally unable to let any such challenge pass without shooting off his mouth, but if he does, it could violate the agreement, thereby nullifying it and thus freeing his accusers to openly and publicly renew their charges.

    This just might be the issue that takes the air out of Herbie's sails.

  38. Anonymous8:22 PM

    Can anyone say "Clarence Thomas?" This must be a clear indication that he'll win the Republican nomination. They do love their scumbags.

  39. Anonymous8:33 PM

    so many anonymous sources!!!!!

    this whole thing has Rove all over it. he just waited for the right time to put it out there.

    im sure the palinbots are peeing in their panties over this. they still think sarah will run if they jump up and down enough causing an earthquake. as they drop one by one on the way to0 the convention i would not put it past her to jump in somehow.

    so KEEP UP THE RESEARCH on that freak cause she is like the booger you cant flick off your finger no matter how hard you try.

  40. Anonymous8:46 PM

    The sad thing about this is that the women who complained about Cain's behavior did not bring this forward, it apparently was the people they complained TO who brought this up to the media.

    But it's the women who will be double-victimized by this.

    While Cain gets to don the Clarence Thomas Mantle of Righteous Victimhood.

  41. Anonymous9:06 PM

    Questions @7:32- I think that Cain is compared to Thomas largely because both men decry any affirmative action legislation to try to give everyone a level playing field.

    At the same time, they both seem to believe that they are so profoundly "special" that they have not benefitted in the least by the struggles of those who went before them.

    As well as believing wholeheartedly that they deserve affluence and power, they also both seem to believe that they can abuse women without any censure.

    So, this is not an unfair linkage.

    Wild Tortoise

  42. Anonymous9:08 PM

    ...ooops, meant to reply to Anon. at 7:22...

    W. T.

  43. Anonymous9:16 PM

    I don't know how to feel about these things. One would THINK we're heading for a complete shoe-in, landslide election to give Obama a second term.

    I mean, REALLY, how are any of these clowns going to rally their supporters, when every stinking DAY something comes to light to show not a one of them has any business even considering the presidency?

    I hear pundits saying to forget about the fringers like Cain and Perry, as they will shoot themselves in the foot plenty of times before the nomination occurs.

    So, its ROMNEY we need to be concerned about? The Republicans seem to HATE him...although, certainly not in the same league as they claim to hate Obama.

    I still seethe over the report I saw of people being asked what they dislike about "Obamacare," and having them all say, "All of it." When pushed to come up with anything beyond that, such as asking if they are FOR the insurance companies weaseling out of claims by saying there was some sort of similar problem in the person's past medical history--they all said, well, no, they LIKED that part (as they did every other aspect of it, brought to their attention.)

    It is THAT kind of utter stupidity and unwillingness to learn the truth, that has me scared that any ONE of these nutcases may find their way to the leadership of the freaking WORLD, simply on the platform of "I'm an idiot, but I'm not Obama."

  44. Anonymous9:30 PM

    In this interview with the Massey brothers they talk about living with Bristol. One of them talks about Tripp and says that they had never been around a two year old 24/7 and then says "so we are learning a lot about the KIDS". ( Slip of the tongue?

  45. Anonymous9:37 PM

    This hypocritical fucking inhuman misogynistic asshole just went on record as opposing ALL abortions, including to save the life of the mother.

    Not at all surprised he's guilty of sexual harassment.

    And I have no doubt he IS guilty. Innocent people simply don't react to such accusations in this extremely cautious, ambiguous way.

    Roll a pizza wheel over him a dozen times - he's done!

  46. Anonymous9:51 PM

    Check out this pregnant photo of Bristol.

  47. Anonymous11:35 PM

    And now Man Coulter is blaming liberals for this information, claiming that the right "never indulges in personal attacks!" And she said that with her usual smarm.

  48. I agree with the anon poster who said this has Roves slimy fingerprints all over it. It serves no purpose for the Democrats to release this information now, only the establishment Republicans want Cain out this early.

    If you read the article thouroughly you'll notice Politico gave Cains camp several chances to respond to the story, and only ran into a total clusterfuck. Politico has the names of the women, verified the payouts, etc. Cain is doomed

    Welcome to the real world outside your little Koch bubble Herb. You can run, but you can't hide. The truth always comes out eventually.

  49. angela2:03 AM

    To anyone thinking Sarah will stroll into the race as Rick Perry dissolves into whatever "stimulant" he seems to be fond of, Michele Bachmann stupids herself into a care facility, Newt is caught licking diamonds in public, Rick Santorum becomes even more unhinged about teh gay, Herman Cain implodes because he's the bully I thought he was and Mitt flip flops so much he is eventually put into traction.

    SHE WON'T.

    She's watching these people fall apart as their secrets pour out and their real faces are shown and she's got a big smile on her face as she bounces on her money. She knows she'd go down harder than the Hindenburg---Just like the rest of the clown show.

  50. Anonymous2:25 AM

    OT: Early this am as in about 4:30 am , I'm making Boston Baked Beans for Halloween..and my old kitchen TV is on a channel I don't remember viewing before.

    There are two old men talking about religion...

    One old gaffer comes out with some ridiculous proof, and what is his ridiculous statement about?... This proves that Jesus did not want the government to look after the poor....

    Wow, just wow... awful old man... Is this what people are hearing? I suppose he feels that he is elevated above the rest of us because of his strong religious beliefs.


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