Tuesday, October 11, 2011

Open for discussion. What do we make of this? Update.

I am still very troubled by these two pictures, the one on the left supposedly taken in the hospital on April 18, 2008, and the other taken in the Palin home on May 3, 2008.

The pictures are only supposed to have be taken fifteen days apart, and yet the change in Levi's hair and skin tone is striking. Don't you agree?

I decided to bring this back up after I found that picture of Levi, shown on the left, in his book.

Just to give you an idea of how puzzling that was, the photo in the book is NOT the one that I posted here before, but instead another that I did not even realize existed until it showed up in the photo insert of "Deer in the Headlights."

Here is mine for comparison:

The differences are subtle, but if you look at the "A" on his shirt and his position on the couch you can pick up on them. (Not so subtle is the white backing stuck to my photo as a result of it being stored with other pictures in a box in the back of Sherry's closet. As you can see Levi's does not share that same blemish.)

I am a little confused as to why Levi put that picture into his book at all. It almost feels as if it was in direct response to MY having used the above picture on this blog, and his desire to make sure we all realized that the picture DEFINITELY came from that day in April of 2008.

In fact below the picture it even says the following: That is just-born Trig Palin, I'm on the sofa in Sarah's hospital suite-delivery room. She was snoozing in the bed next to me, exhausted.


Get it folks? Sarah gave birth to Trig. I was right there in the room. Now let's move on!

Of course as all of us have noted before, the idea of Levi being comfortable enough to sit in Palin's delivery room, and her comfort with having him there, actually raises more questions then it answers.

And by the way there are OTHERS who are also having a very difficult time making sense of this picture.  People who you might think would simply assume that Levi was being honest.

So what do you think? Is Levi being honest?  Or is this simple picture really worth those famous "thousand words?"

P.S. I must also note that the date on the back of my pictures show a date of 5/13/2008, which of course is consistent with them having been developed less than a month after Trig was "born." As we know digital pictures can be developed anytime, but it is fair to notice that the date on these supports the official timeline.

Update: Here are the two photos I have.

 As you can see they are indeed hard copies, NOT digital images. The date is stamped on the back as is the brand name "Fuji Film" which I guess might also indicate that these were taken with film and not a digital camera as I assumed earlier. Though of course you can also get hard copies of your digital images, so this might not tell us anything about the camera.

If any camera buffs out there know different please enlighten us.

As to where Levi got his picture I am still not sure, as Sherry and Sadie did not say he got it from them.

307 comments:

  1. Anonymous7:07 AM

    "She was snoozing in the bed next to me, exhausted." This caption sounds like it was written by Sarah. Think of her typical verbiage...she would definitely go with "snoozing" over "sleeping." And what 20-year-old says "snoozing" these days? Perhaps there was someone (Bristol?) asleep in the bed, but I doubt it was Sarah.

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  2. Betsy S7:08 AM

    I can figure out a haircut being obtained between the two pictures, but I can't account for a healed tattoo.
    The baby looks like the same kid, maybe ten days older. There is that other picture in the Palin house, with Keith Johnston holding the baby, with a blushing, very young Levi just beside him, wearing a badly photoshopped McCain-Palin on a Nascar tshirt.

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  3. Anonymous7:09 AM

    the kid on the left, with the blond highlights is the same kid on the right of course, but they look physically different - like a year might have passed? I still think the whole thing stinks - and wonder how many kids this family calved out in the space of two to three years. The babygate book should add more questions but I think the key is going to be someone from the inner circle stepping up and throwing water on the witch - her sounds of "I'm melting" will be music to my ears

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  4. Anonymous7:09 AM

    WTF -- Where did the golden locks of hair go? The "Johnston" tramp stamp ? This picture is of a much younger Levi.
    No doubt.--------Hmmmmmmmmm!!!

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  5. Goddamit! Now we're up to what? 6 babies now and 3 or 4 Levi impostors! I swear I can't keep all this shit straight!

    Please, somebody, figure this shit out before I start drinking again. Just sayin'.

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  6. padoreva7:11 AM

    Nope. Not buying it. Levi's face has aged more than 10 days and he has thickened under the chin. His shoulders are also beefier.

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  7. Anonymous7:12 AM

    levi's face is heavier in the pic on right. as well the bulk of his shoulder frame size.
    id say they were one year apart.

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  8. Anonymous7:12 AM

    IMO, The green t-shirt pic is a pic of Levi at a younger age. Levi has a fuller face ( a little bit left of that childhood look on the way to adulthood) Two babies that the Palin's have Levi cuddling,who according to the Palins--they only really met twice and Brisket wasn't serious about, but f#cked him for 3 years every chance she had.
    Kind of funny that they only see Briskets baby daddy's when she drops one.
    Yep, 2 babies being cuddled by Levi Johnston, both babies having the name Tripp, but 2 different yrs, 2 babies named Tripp! Boy, that Brisket is one fertile heifer, if she was a red angus I'd try and buy her from Granny Lulu.

    Little Rabbit

    and for the person on last nights thread that wanted to know if I wsa from El Paso, I am currently running one of the many construction jobs out at Fort Bliss for our company. But we live NW of San Antonio. And yes, my ex spec forces hubby went down to the funeral to help chase the Phelps away from Sgt Diaz's funeral yesterday. One of us had to be on the jobsite, so I missed it.

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  9. Dis Gusted7:13 AM

    Levi put on a hell of a lot of weight in just a few days didn't he?

    Plus he got a tattoo, cut his hair, and looks about a year or two older than green shirt photo.

    Green shirt baby looks like Tripp.

    I don't know who Ruffles is, or where he came from. This family lies so much, that's it's possible it is ANOTHER Palin child from the extended family or it's a stand in.

    When Sherry and Mercede went to see Tripp in the hospital, they were only allowed to see him for a minute. That baby could also have been a stand in.

    Too much deception - that's the real indicator that what we know is not what is real.

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  10. Gryph,

    Not that it makes a big fuckin' difference, but Apr 18th and May 3rd would be 15 days in between. Just fix it and delete my comment if you want to.

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  11. Anonymous7:13 AM

    I still believe Bristol and Levi arrived at the hospital BEFORE todd and sarah arrived, and they arrived WITH TRIG from?? anchorage NICU? home?
    Thus the heavy hat, blanket on the couch, so when bailey arrived, he saw bristol sleeping on the couch, because SHE WAS UP SO EARLY TO GO GET THE KID, or deliver the kid, who was then tucked away until sarah arrived. I said before, that bristol took this picture of levi holding HIS SON one more time before it was turned over to S&T
    how sad sad sad

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  12. Anonymous7:15 AM

    I hope he meant he was sitting in a chair, not IN BED NEXT TO HER
    but that is totally possible, ICKY!

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  13. Anonymous7:16 AM

    "She was snoozing in the bed next to me, exhausted."

    LOL.
    well, someone may have been 'sleeping' but it wasnt grannyP.

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  14. Anonymous7:16 AM

    Where is the Johnston tattoo in the first photo? it appears he didn't have it one and does in the other

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  15. Anonymous7:16 AM

    also look at the arm tattoo, seems that has been discussed, like he got it for his birthday or something

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  16. Dis Gusted7:16 AM

    Not only is Levi much much bigger in the May photo but the baby is a LOT SMALLER in the May photo.

    As with 'all things Palin', the dates of the photos are fudged.

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  17. Anonymous7:18 AM

    (ahem)
    Stop being curious. Stop asking questions. Levi is a liar. Joe is a liar. The only ones who tell the truth are Bristol and Sarah. They are too busy to go to church, but they don't need to go anyway, because they are naturally good and decent people who would never lie about another human being.

    It's sad and insane and weird and whatnot that people are so interested in discussing the Palin's life. They are a humble family who shy away from the spotlight.

    Trig is a happy and loved little boy who sees his family whenever he can, on holidays and special occasions.

    Tripp loves his uncle Trig and goes on play dates all the time when he isn't sniffing nail polish remover sitting on Bristol's lap or sucking on a pacifier or learning how to root out pregnancy tests from Aunt Willow.

    Levi is liar. He hardly knew Sarah and Todd at all. Sarah told the truth when she said they only talked a couple times. It's obvious that Levi was trained in preemie care, which is why Sarah let this boy she hardly knew hold her premature baby with a hole in his heart hours after he was born. But Levi lied about his training, just like he lies about everything else.

    Stop being curious and stop asking these inconvenient questions. Stop reading this immature blog. Stop looking at these pictures. Stop talking about these people who only want to live their lives out of the spotlight on reality tee vee.

    Stop blogging. STOP BLOGGING RIGHT NOW!

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  18. Anonymous7:18 AM

    Where's the tattoo? Did he get that in the 10 days between shots? Do tattoos heal that fast?

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  19. Anonymous7:19 AM

    He got a hair cut and it cut off all the bleaching. Skin tone....the lighting is different and 10 days, for me, is enough time for a tan to start fading. The two pics are very different. Two different angles, maybe two different cameras. It was a staging and they needed Levi to be there for later down the road when questions would be asked. I know of NO other women who would want or allow their daughter's boyfriend to be in the hospital room so soon after delivery--next day maybe. Levi, again, is young and dumb and easy to fool. He is just a tool willingly going along with the ride as long as his pockets are full and he doesn't have to pay that support. Hire a PI to look into Levi's banking activity and child support payments--I think there is where you will find some interesting information. BTW, FUCK YOU, scara. Sorry to IMERS, I am in a foul mood today, don't mean to offend any of the loyal.

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  20. Anonymous7:21 AM

    why would Levi be in the hospital holding SP's newborn child when she claims she hardly knew him at all.

    Where was Bristol? Was she actually the one snoozing in the bed next to him?

    What a freakin' bunch of LIARS.

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  21. Anonymous7:25 AM

    did Levi have his arm tattooed in those 10 days, on top of changing his hair and skin?
    Don't tattoo's stay covered for 2-3 weeks to avoid infections?

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  22. Oops. my bad.

    Yes the pics are fifteen days apart, NOT ten.

    I knew that, but I must have been getting tired last night when I wrote the post.

    And as we know those five days make ALL the difference in the world LOL!

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  23. Anonymous7:28 AM

    Is the GOP paying Levi (and family) to continue backing the "official" birth story?

    The GOP will lose if the truth is ever exposed.

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  24. Anonymous7:34 AM

    Do you suppose (ahem) is Willow? Whoever it is they are very defensive, almost petulantly so

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  25. Anonymous7:35 AM

    you are wrong -- if you look in the baby's hat the torn photo is there -- these pics were stuck on top of each other

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  26. Anonymous7:37 AM

    The hair is all wrong. Even if you cut all the blonde highlights out of it there is no way the length would be so long ten days later. Levi is lying/hiding - the truth will come out sooner or later, Levi can either be a positive part of the truth or be run over by the bus that will leave tire tracks on his ass for years to come. Is that how you want to be remembered as a responsible dad?

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  27. Anonymous7:37 AM

    So the other question is where does a teen aged boy in AK get a tan in the winter? Did they take him to Hawaii with them at some point? If he was doing the tanning bed then he would have simply continued on with it. Tans that come from a fast one week trip to the sunlight fade fairly fast. Tans from tanning beds or a summer of being outdoors last a little longer than two weeks

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  28. Anonymous7:39 AM

    Out of curiosity, is the date hand written? I'm assuming not but just wondering.

    Also, so you know who took the picture?

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  29. lostinthe midwest7:39 AM

    I call bullsh*t! I raised 4 boys and there is CLEARLY an age difference in these two photos of around a year.

    Tripp first, Ruffles second. Where in the hell is Ruffles?

    Anonymous said...

    Stop blogging. STOP BLOGGING RIGHT NOW!

    7:18 AM

    Good one. bwahahahaha

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  30. jcinco7:39 AM

    I think his "highlights" were fairly grown out and the hat hid the "darkness" of the roots of his hair. He has his hair cut fairly short to get rid of the rest of the highlights. The difference in skin tone is probably lighting. I do find it odd that there are so many pictures of him holding Trig.

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  31. Anonymous7:40 AM

    I am so enjoying the posts by"ahem".
    And to Little Rabbit, A big "Thanks" to your husband for standing watch at Sgt Diaz's funeral.
    Glad to see another IM'er in the area even if you are only here temporarily.

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  32. You need to see if friends or maybe Sherry or Mercede have photos of Levi from years before this photo was taken.

    Also high school yearbooks. You need to be able to match up his golden hair with a year. Then it will be easier to document when this photo had been taken.

    That's the only thing I can think of to begin to figure out this mess.

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  33. Nancy In New York7:42 AM

    Why is Levi so cozy with Trig? Wasn't he supposed to be the barely tolerated boyfriend at that point (2008)?

    What new mom lets her daughter's boyfriend come into her hospital room (while she's "snoozing") and hold her just born preemie special needs baby?

    I'm with the theory that Bristol gave birth to twins (not sure on what day exactly) one with downs and the other not. Granny then took Trig to raise as her own.
    Not sure where Tripp plays in the picture. Could he be Trig's twin? I'm not sure about the supposed December due date of Bristol either.

    Either way, the Palins are one fucked up lying family and Levi seems to be covering up for them as well. Has anyone in that family heard of visiting a pharmacy before a big night of abstinence only sex?

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  34. Anonymous7:47 AM

    I have never been able to really see the supposed difference in skintone. And the hair could easily have been dyed and cut within 15 days.

    Now the whole "She was snoozing on the bed next to me" thing is weird. From your picture, Gryph, it's clear Levi is sitting on a couch-like bench. These are not found in hospital rooms, in my experience. They are more to be found in hospital floor lounges and such. So it's clear to me he is NOT sitting in her room with her snoozing in bed nearby.

    But the missing tattoo...now that's something to thin about....

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  35. Anonymous7:49 AM

    Digital images are not "developed". Ever. There would be no date stamped on the back of a photo that relates to anything except a commercial print.
    Do you mean that prints were printed? Or were the photos taken with film?

    Gryphen, I'm sure you already know that different film processing companies use different identifiers to their prints. For example, if you get prints made at Costco, they'll look different than prints made at WalMart. Some have date stamps; some do not.
    The point? The camera's internal date stamp (doesn't matter if it's film or digital) and the photo printing date stamp are different and distinguishable.
    Now. _YOU_ have prints in your hands? Or digital images on a flash drive? Some scanned, some "live"?
    Either do the homework or hand them off to someone who's interested and will run around and figure out what they have.

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  36. Anonymous7:50 AM

    Wasn't Trig a special needs baby, needing immediate attention at birth? I realize that Palin is special, but I doubt that even she could give birth to a Down baby that is treated perfectly normal, passed around within minutes. Something is rotten not just in Denmark, but Wasilla also, too.

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  37. Anonymous7:51 AM

    The 2 pics of Levi are different. One is taken from a higher angle.

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  38. To a person who had absolutely no knowledge of the back story or myth, seeing the picture of a teenaged boy holding a baby, he or she would automatically assume that it was the picture of a young man holding his son.

    First, no casual boyfriend of a teenaged daughter would be part of such an intimate event; allowed to hold a premature, recently born DS baby; or be so enamored of someone else's baby that he would even want to hold it. Not what we know about Levi. Why in the world would Sarah having a baby have so much importance in his life that he felt compelled to even include the picture in his book? Because he had to in order to perpetuate the myth and be able to have any kind of relationship with his son(s). The Palins have the Johnston Family by the short hairs. The arrest of Sherry was the warning of what can happen if they stray off script. I do think that Sadie knows something, but not the whole story. But she is also protecting her family.

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  39. Anonymous7:52 AM

    Hmmm, a tan body would be explainable with a summer due date.

    I think green shirt Levi is holding the mono baby. Bristol's first.

    The other baby looks like Ruffles, the Trig understudy until Trig could be passed off as Sarah's.

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  40. Those two young men are about a year apart in age. No doubt about it.

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  41. Anonymous7:57 AM

    It is beyond weird for the mother of his girlfriend to be "snoozing" on the bed next to him. And she claims to have barely met him. ha! The lies are just plastered on over the other. Why wouldn't Bristol be there? If you put this together with Sadie's comments about her brother you can come up with some strange explanations.

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  42. Anonymous7:57 AM

    Agree that Levi looks like a mature guy in the later picture, physically. He looks quite young in the first one, hair color and other details aside. He would have had to gain weight and built up muscular bulk in the intervening time.

    More important - that little baby gained absolutely NO weight, however, in 15 days time, if you ask me. Can't remember if they said he was premature? I don't know enough about that; maybe premies don't gain much weight. I would imagine it's the opposite, however, and 15 days of receiving intravenous nutrition would add weight to a newborn.

    If we're talking about the baby, looks like the pics were taken just one or two days apart. If we're talking about Levi, the photos could be separated by months to years.

    I think one is Trig and one is Tripp; I don't think they were twins. (But one of them may have a twin sibling...makes 3 then.)

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  43. Anonymous7:57 AM

    Where did the book photo come from?

    It was clearly taken only seconds apart from the Sherry photo.

    Is it also from Sherry's collection?

    Or did somebody else take it?

    If so, who?

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  44. Anonymous7:59 AM

    What hospital staff would allow a just born premature down syndrome baby with jaundice and a hole in his heart, in the arms of a non-family member who is not wearing a mask and a hospital gown on?

    That folks just does not play out at all.

    If Mat-Su hospital really did allow this, please don't send your relatives there for treatment.

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  45. Anonymous7:59 AM

    Things That Make You Go Hmmm...

    http://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2008/08/things-that-make-you-go-hmmm/212233/

    http://ingrimayne.com/spp/sarahPalinPregnant.html

    http://www.alaskahdtv.com/2008/juneau-hike-with-sarah-palin/

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  46. Anonymous8:00 AM

    I make nothing of it. If you notice, his hair is lighter at the tips and much longer in the first pic. I could easily see it looking the way it does in the second pic after being cut that short.

    The skin tone is meaningless, different film, different camera, different lighting, any number of things would explain it.

    Baby looks pretty much the same.

    I see nothing conspiratorial in these pics, sorry.

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  47. First picture was not taken 4/18/08.

    Isn't that a different cap than the one on the baby the Heaths held a few hours later?

    Could be Trig, taken early Feb., or Tripp, taken whenever he was really born.

    Yes, Levi put stuff in his book just the way Sarah wrote it. I certainly hope he is lying for a noble reason, such as access to his son, but if that's the case, he needs to go to family court and stop the blackmail.

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  48. Anonymous8:02 AM

    Are there any other dated photos of Levi with the same long blond hairstyle and no tattoo, that could help to date the green shirt picture?

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  49. Anonymous8:03 AM

    I doubt very seriously that there would be a picture of my daughter's boyfriend holding any newborn of mine in the hospital. For the simple fact that "he" would not have been invited to the event.- I agree that Levi looks a year older in the second picture. His face and musculature has changed too much for two weeks time.- It makes more sense to have pics of Sarah or Todd with a newborn baby if they are the real parents. - I'm a mom with four kids, two of 'em are adult sons for which I base my opinion of Levi's age in the photos. I have seven grandkids, and non-family were never present for any births. If they were, it would not have been a time for photo ops of them with the newborn. Doesn't ring true at all that Levi was at the hospital for the birth of Sarah & Todd's baby delivery.

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  50. Anonymous8:08 AM

    How do these two photos compare with the one of Levi holding a baby and looking right at the camera? I am sorry I can't remember where I saw it, but I remember several people commenting that he looked liked a shell-shocked kid holding his first child.

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  51. Anonymous8:08 AM

    I read a book once about the psychology of people posing for photos.Even if they are set up by the photographer, you can learn a lot from how people position themselves in the shot. All the pics of Levi with those babies show him very naturally looking at the baby as a new parent, thrilled with his child, would do. All the pics of Sarah with Trig, she is looking out at the camera so that the photo will have a nice shot of her. Not one shot of her looking down lovingly at the baby. As others have said repeatedly, where are all the pics of the family with Sarah and the baby or just Sarah and the baby in the hospital room?

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  52. Anonymous8:09 AM

    His jawline difference does jump out at me.

    So, GMan, what does Levi's family think of this?

    Btw, I now notice a difference between those babies. However, I see similarities between Heath/april18 baby and triggybear.

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  53. Anonymous8:10 AM

    So, WHO wants to prod Frank B to relinquish HIS other pictures of Trig in the hospital. You know, the one with Todd?

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  54. Anonymous8:10 AM

    I wouldn't think too much about the verbiage. Nothing is that book is Levi's wording.

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  55. Anonymous8:10 AM

    The baby Levi is holding? Looks like little Tripp. I know, I know, everyone is speculating different things and it's very confusing.

    But, some have a good eye at noticing these things, and moms definitely see little nuances and small details in an infant's face.

    I see that baby with the little upturned nose (looks like Tripp's) and the face is healthy-looking, yet average size, no big jowls or huge swollen cheeks.

    Don't babies faces swell up immediately after birth? And aren't their heads (with a natural birth through the birth canal) a bit elongated from front to back, moments after delivery? It takes a few days, a week, before their head takes it's normal shape. Hard to tell in this photo. The baby has a hat on. But at first glance, this baby, in Levi's arms, looks like it's been fed well and is in the shape a several days' old baby would be. Not a newborn preemie.

    And no mask and gown? Germs? Viruses? With a down syndrome premature infant? No way!!!

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  56. Anonymous8:11 AM

    Is anyone sure Levi ever had that tatoo? It could have been stenciled onto the surface of his arm or been added after the picture was taken.

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  57. Anonymous8:12 AM

    anon 7:34 - ahem is joking.

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  58. Anonymous8:13 AM

    Betsy,

    The tat would have healed miraculously in minutes to hours OR it would have hurt like a bitch all day. Someone lied previously.

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  59. Anonymous8:15 AM

    Can Sadie tell us anything about Levi's hair throughout his teen years?

    I assumed that because she didn't say anything in the past, she didn't find anything odd about it.

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  60. Anonymous8:17 AM

    Why ARE there no pictures of Levi like there are of Bristol from this time period and in 07? Did he exist?

    I've always wondered that. Bristol is a popular girl whose picture was often taken in high school. Was Levi a recluse?

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  61. Anonymous8:18 AM

    When did that A&F come out? I"m betting it was new. Anybody know the year?

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  62. Anonymous8:19 AM

    When was that car picture of Levi and B taken? He didn't have blond hair then. I can see him cutting his hair. That's not the issue. But his jawline is different.

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  63. Anonymous8:19 AM

    Considering how much Sarah disapproved of Levi, I doubt this picture.

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  64. Anonymous8:21 AM

    You can see DS in the triggybear picture. You cannot in the other. Or at least I can.

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  65. Anonymous8:21 AM

    You can see DS in the triggybear picture. You cannot in the other. Or at least I can.

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  66. Anonymous8:21 AM

    No mention in your article about the magically appearing tattoo? I thought that at least as significant as the other discrepancies in appearance.

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  67. Anonymous8:21 AM

    It's weird that his ghost writers SAY that Levi knows nothing about Trig and that business. It's all confusing.

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  68. London Bridges8:23 AM

    I think Levi's forearms look bigger in the blond picture, maybe from pumping iron or hard labor. Anyone else see this?

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  69. Anonymous8:24 AM

    More 3 year old pictures.

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  70. Anon 7:34, satire alert. Ahem is tongue-in-cheek, and hilarious!

    Tks, Ahem. Always enjoy your posts!

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  71. Anonymous8:26 AM

    Wonder what the hospital's policy visitors to come in and handle newborns, especially newborns that SHOULD have been born near an NICU. Especially premature newborns. Especially down syndrome newsborns with a holes in heart and jaundiced.

    Wonder how this hospital could explain why a premature infant who should be in an incubator, especially moments after it's birth, is in the arms of a young skanky-looking young man moments after it's birth, while the mother is sleeping in the bed? What nurse would allow this? Shouldn't the infant be in an incubator shielded from people around him? Considering he may or may not have had sucking impulses (being a DS baby) wouldn't he have been in an IV for liquids until he was able to breast-feed? Wouldn't it be important for staff to be watching him 24/7 and keeping him fed during his incubation and light therapy treatments?

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  72. Anonymous8:27 AM

    He must have gotten the tatoo on his arm during that time, also.

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  73. Anonymous8:27 AM

    I have not read any comments yet~ but the 2 pics on the top of the post??
    That doesn't even look like the same baby!
    The first one, with Levi holding the baby, the baby looks BIGGER than the second one where the baby is supposedly a few days or weeks later.
    Neither one look like a preemie to me, either.
    You right Gryphen, the more we find out, the more questions come up!
    Thank you for all of the hard work you're doing!! Don't give up!! You are getting closer & closer with each post!!

    mary b

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  74. Why would a disliked boy, by the palin's, be in the hospital room while the mother of his girlfriend sleeps?

    Why would her sickly baby be held by a grubby, nasty dirty boy?

    Why isn't the baby being taken care of? He is suppose to have a hole in his tiny heart and I believe jaundice on top of his mental problems.

    Where is toad? Where are the picture of toad holding the new born in the hospital room? Where is the insufferable bitch's first born pics?

    Where are the grandparents? Where are her kids? Where are pics of bustol with levi in the hospital?

    G, Can we get a comparison of the grandparent pic holding a wrapped baby in the hospital and the above levi pics?

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  75. Oh my God...he is so much older in the second picture. His skin has taken on a teenage look, possibly pimply and it was so smooth in the first picture, not to mention his adoring look at the baby. It's actually very sad, knowing what we know.

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  76. Anonymous8:29 AM

    Has a wedding band in the green shirt photo, no hospital bands on wrists. Younger, teen ager in the green shirt photo, at least a year older in the right hand picture. Who took the pictures in either case especially on the green shirt photo?

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  77. Anonymous8:32 AM

    To me April baby looks nothing like Trig, whereas May 3 baby does indeed. Not only does May 3 baby look like Trig to me, but that's the same baby in Bailey's book. Sorry to kill your Tale of Two Babies saga, but I've never noticed a difference in any one bay presented as Trig.

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  78. Anonymous8:32 AM

    When I see that picture (on the left), I am always drawn to the odd blue blanket and the yellow hat on the baby.

    Those are not "standard" hospital issue for any hospital I have ever seen and I have had 2 children in 2 different hospitals years apart and seen countless other people's babies, not to mention pictures of newborns in hospitals.

    Most hospitals have a certain kind of knit (not to be confused with knitted with yarn) type cap that are fairly universal.

    The same goes for the types of blankets newborns are swaddled in.

    Would it be possible to find someone that has given birth at Mat-Su or even go to Mat-Su and take a peek in their nursery and see what their standard issue blankets and hats look like?

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  79. Cracklin' Charlie8:33 AM

    ahem,

    you crack me up everyday!

    Thanks for that!

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  80. Anonymous8:33 AM

    Anon 7:47, that's the same couch thing that Todd, Willow and Piper were sitting on when Willow was holding Tripp.

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  81. Anonymous8:34 AM

    8:00 am said: "I see nothing conspiratorial in these pics, sorry."

    And he went right from there to get a haircut AND a tattoo that healed in 2 weeks??? Right...

    You're onto something here, G. This may be the iceberg that gets the Titanic.

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  82. Anonymous8:34 AM

    Wow @ 8:00 am, I think they may be over-paying you. Just lame.

    Hope you are checking all the blogs, because this isn't the only place they are going over these pictures with a fine-toothed comb.

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  83. Anonymous8:35 AM

    (ahem) is sarcasm. Snark. A parody of the fairy tale troll.

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  84. Anonymous8:36 AM

    Sunshine, the only way to match up Levi's hair is to find picture around the same time period. Other years won't cut it. Levi had blond hair in some of his past hockey yearbook pictures but that was in Bristol's 06 yearbook, when Bristol wasn't pregnant. Those pics would have been taken early in the school year. Bristol and Levi began dating late in her freshman year. (Not that they were serious)

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  85. Anonymous8:38 AM

    Also, wearking the hat two different ways. Usually, it's like pretty consistant the way somebody wears a hat. One year you wear it one way, the next you switch.

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  86. Anonymous8:38 AM

    How do the photos jive with the school pics?

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  87. Anonymous8:39 AM

    Crystal Sage, absolutely re: Levi holding a newborn Trig. NO way, unless he were the father.

    I do think the arrest of Sherry was a warning of worse to come if the Johnstons made any trouble for the Palins. Not sure that means Mercede or Sherry know anything in particular, but I sure do bet Levi does.

    Bad mess they are in with these monsters. And they are connected through these little ones, and so will be their entire lives. I don't envy them at all.

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  88. Anonymous8:40 AM

    Do you suppose (ahem) is Willow? Whoever it is they are very defensive, almost petulantly so

    7:34 AM

    ===================================
    No, (ahem) is not Willow and also not petulantly defensive. Apparently, you are not familiar with snark.

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  89. Anonymous8:40 AM

    I would imagine everyone is different concerning tats. Mine was crusty and bled for 2 days. I think Gryphen said 3. His tat looks fresh in that picture (or fresher than currently) But why wouldn't it be covered if he just got it?

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  90. Anonymous8:40 AM

    I can see a tan fading and a haircut in 15 days but what gets me is how fast Levi bulked up in those two weeks. I think the curly haired Levi pic was taken in 2007.

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  91. Anonymous8:40 AM

    Now the whole "She was snoozing on the bed next to me" thing is weird. From your picture, Gryph, it's clear Levi is sitting on a couch-like bench. These are not found in hospital rooms, in my experience.

    Why oh why oh WHY do posters SAY things like this?

    Have you been to every freaking hospital in the country?

    Obviously not, or you would know that *my* hospital room when I had my hysterectomy included a comfy sofa against the window wall, for daytime guest sitting and nighttime guest sleeping. All "female problem" patients/new mother patients got private rooms like that.

    Not to mention, the third picture in this post.

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  92. Cracklin' Charlie8:40 AM

    Maybe Levi is trying to tell the truth without actually saying the words.

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  93. Anonymous8:43 AM

    Enough. This is tiresome. What do you want?

    Time to write your own book - you and Shailey Tripp. The two of you have "information" and details that no one else in the whole world has. And that both of you are unwilling to put out there in the public and on your respective blogs.
    You have easy access to agents and publishers, with a single phone call. Do it. We'll buy the book.

    Here's an interesting alternative strategy - publish your book. Retail it for some ungodly amount that a few people will buy, but most won't. Excerpt it on both of your blogs, one chapter at a time, but as a teaser to buy the book. Just enough to keep readers coming to your blog, but not the whole enchilada.
    Both of you do a bit of book tour business, separately and together.
    After awhile, drop the price to normal retail.
    Follow it up with personal memoirs: a-day-in-the-life-of stuff.

    I volunteer. Give me a call. You've got my email address.

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  94. Anonymous8:43 AM

    Here is what is missing from every damn one of these photos!

    Where is the 'happy' family holding the baby? Where is the tired yet jubilant mother lying in bed? Where is the happy Dad and all the sisters and brother gathered around their new little miracle?

    Every single Mom in the world has those pictures unless they gave birth in a cab. EVERYONE! I've had four kids and I have those pictures for every one of them. We all do!

    But all we have even seen are some very questionable pics of the boyfriend? Even if the boyfriend was there (which would be highly doubtful) he would be one of a crowd of family not the only one with a picture of the newborn.

    These pics are of a young Dad holding his new child(ren). Whoever is 'snoozing' next to him is NOT the Governor of Alaska. The only real question is when were the baby(ies) born?

    And I also don't believe Bristol was conveniently 5 mos pregnant at the RNC and I also don't believe Sarah Palin conveniently birthed a DS baby just in time to cement her pro-life credentials. All that is too darn convenient for my taste.

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  95. Anonymous8:43 AM

    The green shirt Levi looks at least a year younger and the babies do not look the same.

    One would think Levi would have a pic of Bristol holding her new "baby brother", or of Bristol AND Levi with the baby. But not Levi holding the baby solo. Bristol wasn't in the picture because she was in bed and didn't want to be photographed wearing a hospital gown.

    Gryphen, there have to be pictures of Levi you can find that would help narrow down the time these pictures were taken - highschool yearbooks, hockey pictures. Mercede is always taking pictures. She must have pictures of Levi at different stages of high school. I can't...and don't...believe that she doesn't know the truth about these babies.

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  96. Anonymous8:43 AM

    I was 16 when my only sibling was born (same 2 parents). And I can tell you there was NO way my boyfriend at the time would have been in my mom's hospital room! I would have been mortified! I was totally embarrassed by the whole pregnancy at that time -- proof that these two old people were still doing it! LOL.

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  97. Anonymous8:46 AM

    Levi has a bruised thumbnail in the photo with Mercede. Are there any hospital photos that show his thumb? His fingers look rough, and red, but his hands look soft in the hospital photo.

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  98. ThanksABunchJohn8:46 AM

    @ (ahem)

    YOU ROCK!!

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  99. Anonymous8:47 AM

    Did he take his *wedding* ring off 15 days later? Or am I not seeing too well?

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  100. Anonymous8:47 AM

    Why not take up a fund to hire a real PI and get to the bottom of this? I have followed this since the bitch came on the stage in 08 and really sick of it. I can't beleave that NO ONE can find proof only a bunch of pictures.
    I am sure a real PI can find Tigg and get DNA, after all his family is never around him.

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  101. Anonymous8:48 AM

    Haven't read the comments yet. But there is NO WAY a new mother would let her daughter's teenage boyfriend hold her newborn baby like that. Also the way Levi is holding him says "I'm a dad now."
    The green shirt pic looks like its from 2007. Its definitely not from the same time as the kitchen photo.

    Therefore green shirt pic = the original Tripp before he was stolen by Sarah and renamed Tri-G after his condition. Prove me wrong Sarah.

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  102. Anonymous8:49 AM

    Okay. Now that I have read the comments, I find a few things wrong with ALL of these pictures.
    I have given birth to 5 babies, at five different hospitals.
    There is NO WAY possible that a Downs Baby with a Heart Defect (and other health problems), being a preemie, etc, would not be in an incubator asap after birth.
    A few of my kids were put right into incubators when they were born for much, much less.
    One of them was a little Jaundiced. The other was not breathing well at first. The Doctors did what any good Doctor would do, that is, take precautions!! A preemie is automatically put into an incubator until he/she gains weight, can bottle/breast feed good (Down's Babies are known for having feeding problems at birth) and if the baby had a hole in his heart?? Definitely would be in an incubator.
    No one, except the parents and maybe siblings, would be allowed to take the baby out of NICU. They would also have to be wearing a mask and surgical gown (or something similar).
    Alaska can't be that far behind the rest of the USA!!
    Sorry $arah, it's all a bunch of bullshit.

    mary b

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  103. I thought we had determined on Audrey's blog that the word 'Johnston' was flair added by Mercedes.

    Just like the little black footprints.

    Prior to the scrutiny, the 'tattoo' was thought to be incriminating as far as the date of that picture.

    Does anyone else remember that discussion at PalinDeception.blogspot.com?

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  104. Anonymous8:49 AM

    Another thing that is weird. Why is the only picture of someone holding the newborn Trig in the hospital room, Levi?

    No Track, Bristol, Willow or Todd? Just the barely tolerated daughter's boyfriend?

    If they were passing the newborn preemie, DS, hole-in-the-heart baby around to all and sundry why aren't the pictures of the whole family holding him?

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  105. Anonymous8:50 AM

    Now that is absoultely amazing Gryphen. The first picture is nearly identical to the second picture. But what is even more amazing is that both pictures show Levi and a baby! Please continue.

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  106. Anonymous8:50 AM

    Why did Sadie initially claim that this was the first time Levi had visited any baby in the hospital?

    Is that statement similar to this one from her: "I promise Bristol was not pregnant before Tripp"

    In that, she really knows jack crap about her brother.

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  107. Anonymous8:51 AM

    I think they're all liars trying to cover up something unsavory that happened and resulted in a baby being born. I don't trust the Palins, the Johnstons, the Heaths or "Tank". They are all hiding something.

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  108. Anonymous8:52 AM

    I highly doubt Levi cared much about his outer appearance. I mean, have you seen how nasty his hair has gotten in pics? He seems like he'd be the type to bleach it, go awhile without touching it, then being told to cut it.

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  109. Anonymous8:52 AM

    I am so tired of reading the "experts" here declare so authoritavely that no way would a teenage boyfriend of the new mother's daughter be allowed to hold the premature new baby in the hospital, yada yada yada.

    You weren't there. So you don't know what would and wouldn't be allowed. Your own experience is just that, YOURS. It is not by any means universal. Nor were you the governor of a state, staying in a hospital whose board was stacked with your buddies.

    So please just stop with the know-it-all "if it didn't happen to ME then it just didn't happen to Sarah either" comparisons. They do not jibe and they add nothing to the investigation.

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  110. Anonymous8:53 AM

    Regarding Levi's bruised thumbnail: I now see that he has red knuckles and a scabbed scrape on his left hand in the enlarged hospital photo. If we could just see that thumb...

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  111. Anonymous8:53 AM

    Whats with the wedding band..holding his mother-in-law's baby in her hospital room??? A mother-in-law the fairy tale trolls say he barely knows??? I would love them to explain this...waiting

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  112. Anonymous8:55 AM

    Anonymous said...
    Do you suppose (ahem) is Willow? Whoever it is they are very defensive, almost petulantly so

    7:34 AM
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    (ahem) is a "joke" troll doing a sarcastic rendition of actual troll posts.

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  113. Anonymous8:55 AM

    For what it's worth, the green tee pic from the book has a similar white splotch on the bub's white hat to the white splotch on the window in the sherry pic. So at some point, the two pics needed to be in the same box - sharing what looks like damage from moisture which caused the pics to stick together?

    Lots and lots of my kids early photos got stuck together like that from being stored loose in shoe boxes.

    I know this is not going to help the dialogue but -

    I also have similar photos of my son aqe 14-16 holding his newborn cousins on my sister's sofa - and another at age 19 holding his brand new niece.

    If Levi is a loving kid and this (these) babies are the first he's been around, it's really possible he could appear this emotionally attached to a bub not his own but with whom he feels a connection.

    I do not however, not for one second buy the BS about Sarah being asleep in the bed beside him. That's just way out of character for Sarah and very out of place for a teenage boy who is not a relative.

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  114. "Can't remember if they said he was premature?"

    trig was premature and her doctor induced labor while she was leaking amniotic fluid with a physically and mentally challenged new born.

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  115. Anonymous8:56 AM

    Here we go:

    Bristol gives birth to premature fraternal twins in very late Dec.07-very early Feb. 08. It has already been decided for Bristol that she will give the babies up for adoption. But one is born with DS. Sarah decides to be the "walk the walk" mother of this DS child if McCain gets the GOP nomination. She prepares by wearing lots of loose black and big colorful (distracting) scarves. She tells NO ONE of her plan. Once McCain has the nomination nailed, she announces she is pregnant to the astonishment of her entire family. Bristol is LIVID. She was already upset, angry and heartbroken at giving up the babies. She has already been having unsafe sex with Levi. She becomes pregnant again sometime in late Feb-early March. The baby is due in November. They pretend she is due in Dec. to avoid a conflict in case she goes into labor around election day. No distractions from the Sarah Star! McCain's people think she is due in Dec, they are clueless (maybe some of the women are suspicious, but they are not in on the due date deception). Bristol gives birth sometime in November after election day. She is seen clearly NOT pregnant in December walking very fast over icy cement into church. They announce Tripp's birth is on Dec. 27. They need to give it a month or more before anyone sees him, to make it less obvious that he is older than they are saying he is. By mid Feb, Bristol decides it's time to present him to the world on GVS. She is still mad at Sarah, and doesn't "clear" the interview with her.

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  116. Anonymous8:57 AM

    Do you suppose (ahem) is Willow? Whoever it is they are very defensive, almost petulantly so

    7:34 AM
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    ahem is brilliant troll parody.

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  117. Anonymous8:57 AM

    of the levi-holding-baby pictures, his sideburns are all different.

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  118. Gasman9:00 AM

    Let's see, a totally different haircut, minus the hightlights; different skin tone; a brand new tattoo with no swelling or redness, no indication at all that it hadn't been there while; and a noticeably older looking face in 15 days.

    Can anyone say "BULLSHIT?"

    Unless they can come up with other pictures that match the highlighted Levi that can definitively be dated to the April 2008 timeframe, it appears to be nothing more than a very bad and desperate attempt at deception.

    Like the movies, the Palins need someone in charge of continuity so they can keep all of their conflicting lies in order. Apparently, they think nobody will notice the HUGE discrepancies between the two images that ABSOLUTELY means they were taken FAR MORE than 15 days apart. They give themselves away far too easily.

    Levi is still a paid Palin stooge.

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  119. Anonymous9:01 AM

    But where did Sadie and Sherrie get these photos? Who took them?

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  120. Anonymous9:01 AM

    Pretty intimate photos, both of them, for a self professed "fuckin redneck that doesn't want any kids".

    http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2008/09/levi-johnston-loves-bristol-palin-hates-kids/

    I included this link because his hair looks to be in the same style as it was in the school photo in this article. Wonder when this was taken? 2007? Wasn't that the last year he was in school?

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  121. barney9:01 AM

    Levi looks much younger with the blond highlights. He is older in the photo with dark hair.


    So did Levi think he was a father twice? These photos are not even taken in the same year!


    Check out the wedding band, Levi married?

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  122. Anonymous9:03 AM

    Anonymous @7:34 AM said...

    Do you suppose (ahem) is Willow? Whoever it is they are very defensive, almost petulantly so.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I guess you don't get sarcasm, do you!

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  123. Anonymous9:03 AM

    Does anybody want to share with the class - who is "Frank B."?

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  124. I looked at the photos (including the full face/green shirt shot) very carefully when they were first posted on IM, even to the point of researching the healing time for tattoos. I concluded that they could have been taken 15 days apart.

    However, it seems strange both photos were developed on the same day. Did Levi take Sherry's camera to the hospital with him in April?

    Another big question is where Levi got the photo. Was there a third green shirt photo in the box at the Johnston home? Is it a photo with a special meaning that he carried around? Or, was it in a Palin's possession and given to Levi recently and specifically to put in the book?

    Gryphen - Any chance you could let us in on WHY the OTHERS are puzzled?

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  125. Anonymous9:05 AM

    When we looked at the green shirt pictures before, it seems we got a general date by dating the A & F t shirt. Was it the summer of 2007 version? It is small for Levi in this picture.

    I am beginning to think this was Bristol's baby born sometime in the Fall of 2007. It may or may not have been Trig. I would guess not and that this baby was put up for adoption. That is why Bristol was so anxious to have another baby.

    There was that email from Parnell to Sarah on 11/9/07 about an extremely urgent situation involving OCS and he asks her to call him in a quiet place.

    Bristol could have been sent away not to hide per pregnancy but to keep her away from Levi and maybe even away from the baby and away from her friends in whom she might confide.

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  126. Anonymous9:07 AM

    For what it's worth, the green tee pic from the book has a similar white splotch on the bub's white hat to the white splotch on the window in the sherry pic. So at some point, the two pics needed to be in the same box - sharing what looks like damage from moisture which caused the pics to stick together?

    Lots and lots of my kids early photos got stuck together like that from being stored loose in shoe boxes.

    I know this is not going to help the dialogue but -

    I also have similar photos of my son aqe 14-16 holding his newborn cousins on my sister's sofa - and another at age 19 holding his brand new niece.

    If Levi is a loving kid and this (these) babies are the first he's been around, it's really possible he could appear this emotionally attached to a bub not his own but with whom he feels a connection.

    I do not however, not for one second buy the BS about Sarah being asleep in the bed beside him. That's just way out of character for Sarah and very out of place for a teenage boy who is not a relative.

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  127. Anonymous9:10 AM

    If nothing else, the doctor and hospital need to be investigated for their practice of allowing any number of people to be allowed anywhere near a premature baby with a hole in his heart.

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  128. Anonymous9:10 AM

    To the person who likes the word, ahem, that's really annoying.

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  129. Anonymous9:11 AM

    From this vantage point, the babe in the photo on the left appears to be the blond-haired child, we currently know to be "Tripp."

    Just my 3 cents,

    :")

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  130. Anonymous9:14 AM

    Another thing that is weird. Why is the only picture of someone holding the newborn Trig in the hospital room, Levi?

    ---

    This is a stupid comment. How can you KNOW this was the ONLY picture taken? Think before you type.

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  131. Anonymous9:15 AM

    If this is a photo of Levi in a hospital with a newly born, preemie, special needs baby whose health is likely compromised, why in the world isn't he wearing a gown and/or a mask? I'm no medical professional, but others out there probably know. Would a kid be allowed to throw on some rumpled, dirty clothes, race to the hospital and then hold a sick new born? Maybe I'm wrong, but it just doesn't seem that this would be SOP for any hospital

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  132. How come Levi is the only one holding them damn babies?? Where's the Toad? No pictures of the Toad holding babies...or is he too busy holding Granny Lulu's purses?

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  133. Anonymous9:18 AM

    Anon 8:40

    There are lots of narrow-minded people commenting. People don't realize all hospitals are different.

    My favorite stupid comment of all time is "Why is Levi the only person photographed holding the newborn?"

    Um, hello, McFly???!!! He's the one releasing photos. Why would HE have pictures of the Palin family with their new brother?

    Gryphen, have you considered bribing Frank Bailey to let you see his pictures from this day?

    Because Bailey is the second person to mention specifically visiting Sarah in the hospital, I CAN believe they used Levi for a photo op and witness.

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  134. Anonymoose9:19 AM

    Do Sherry and Mercede remember when he had the long blondish hair and when he got it cut? Do they have any other photos of Levi with the same hair that they can positively date?

    And on the topic of photos, I think I found one of Ruffles! At the RNC:
    http://cache.heraldinteractive.com/blogs/news/freeze_frame/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/090308rncms37.jpg

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  135. Uh 7:34am...."ahem" is doing parody of the troll and that last bit...."STOP BLOGGING...STOP BLOGGING NOW" is what Ivy Frye said to the blogger Syrin.

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  136. Anonymous9:23 AM

    The picture in the green shirt looks like a younger and sightly thinner Levi. The jaw looks a bit more narrow - think he must have put on a good 10-15 pounds by the time the next picture was taken. Probably pictures are a year apart.
    You mentioned subtle differences - the only thing I noticed was the actual window looks different. In one it has a blind and in the other it looks like white bricks or lathing material.
    Pat Padrnos

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  137. LoveAndKnishesFromBrooklyn9:24 AM

    Levi Johnston, 2006 yearbook photo:

    http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1884882_1855412,00.html

    Make of it what you will--looks like the first photo to me, sans blond highlights. What age would he have been here?

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  138. Anonymous9:24 AM

    Does anyone have the picture of Levi and Mercede out camping and holding guns/ I think at one time it was posted to someone's facebook.

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  139. Well, that answers my question about the tattoo. It is definitely NOT there on "April 18th, 2008", and fully there on "May 5th, 2008".

    So, Levi obviously is able to time travel.

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  140. Anonymous9:26 AM

    @8:56 - I never believed in the twins theory before, but for some reason, the story you've laid out seems pretty plausible to me (heck, as messed up as this family is, I wouldn't be surprised if Trig/Tripp were dropped into AK by aliens.) Honestly, I had no idea that a set of twins could be born and one have DS until I did some quick online research.

    Uncle G. - Just for shizz and giggles, perhaps you could add the pic of the Heaths holding that giant baby in the hallway?

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  141. In the top photo on the left side, there is a toy right on the seam of the baby's cap and that appears to be part of the knit cap. None of the other photos show that toy.

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  142. Anonymous9:29 AM

    When you put the two pictures together like that, that is what convinced me. The first picture is nearly identical with the second picture and they are both taken with a camera. The camera used is a digital camera but it is also a old camera that uses film. Fuji film to be exact and that is what is so astounding about it all!!

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  143. Anonymous9:30 AM

    She was already upset, angry and heartbroken at giving up the babies. She has already been having unsafe sex with Levi. She becomes pregnant again sometime in late Feb-early March. The baby is due in November. They pretend she is due in Dec. to avoid a conflict in case she goes into labor around election day. No distractions from the Sarah Star! McCain's people think she is due in Dec, they are clueless (maybe some of the women are suspicious, but they are not in on the due date deception). Bristol gives birth sometime in November after election day. She is seen clearly NOT pregnant in December walking very fast over icy cement into church. They announce Tripp's birth is on Dec. 27. They need to give it a month or more before anyone sees him, to make it less obvious that he is older than they are saying he is. By mid Feb, Bristol decides it's time to present him to the world on GVS. She is still mad at Sarah, and doesn't "clear" the interview with her.

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  144. Anonymous9:34 AM

    Honestly... I can no longer keep up on the details and timelines for the various "births"... But, I am totally convinced that if any of the Palin clan provided so much as the "current time of day," I'd immediately discount it. If the majority of Americans now feel this way (or soon will), then there's the reward for your hard work, Gryphen, no matter what.

    Perhaps Fred's book will help sort this whole issue out. But clearly the lies have accumulated & piled up on each other so much that I doubt we'll ever be sure of all the "answers." We shall see...

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  145. Anonymous9:37 AM

    I had a feeling a long time ago that Levi was not acting independently of $carah. I don't know.. back when Levi and Brisk broke up, got back together, etc... It was all too contrived and ready made for the tabloids. The "fight" kept everybody in the news, created this opportunity for a book deal, helped build Brisk's image as jilted single mommy. It's all a bunch of bullshit. Mostly I don't care about this sort of thing with reality TV stars or Beyonce types. To have a child would impact her $$$ making ability by changing her body. So what if someone else carries her kid, people do it all the time... and maybe she's concerned about the health of the baby. Whatever she is doing to keep that body may not be healthy for a fetus. She's trying to protect her image because we have such high expectations and her paying someone to carry her baby seems cheating to some. The lie is unfortunate, but again, I don't care. Politician I hold at a different level. $carah's lies are very different because she seeks political power, and actually has the ability to affect policy in this country. Her motivations are relevant. She gained that power under false pretense (we though she had a brain for governing), aggressive behavior (just look under that bus), and at the expense of productive political discourse. I appreciate your efforts in trying to connect the dots with all this. It is possible that Levi had a hair cut the removed his highlighted locks and revealed his true hair color. And his coloring could be different if he'd just woken up after drinking all night. But more likely that the one on the left is a summer shot- unless Levi was into highlighting his hair and making use of that tanning bed. And the one on the right does look like an older Levi with some skin irritation. His facial hair looks different. Smooth shinned and tan on the left, stubble and blotchy on the right. The picture quality difference doesn't seem to account for this variation.

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  146. Anonymous9:38 AM

    The green shirt picture looks like summer; he's got a deep tan plus a burn on top of it. More than just a day or two in the sun. The other picture in the Palin's kitchen is winter time, based on his doughy-white skin.

    Plus he's definitely older in the kitchen picture.

    And yes, Sarah probably wrote "snoozing in the bed next to me" because it sounds inappropriate, like they were intimate, and Levi wouldn't have said it like that. He also wouldn't have said, "exhausted." That's Sarah all the way; sounds exactly the way she would try to frame something.

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  147. Anonymous9:41 AM

    Jeebus Christmas there is no frickin way a Tri-G premie is being held by a random kid's boyfriend so soon after birth. Not without a gown and a good scrub.
    GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEADS.
    If so, MATSU needs to be shut down.
    This is a key to the deception.

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  148. Anonymous9:43 AM

    why are the only pictures we see of baby Trig in the hospital are of Levin and Trig and Chuck and Sally and Trig? Where are pictures of happy brothers and Sisters, and happy parents? Also, maybe we need to see a side by side shot of Levi in the green shirt and Chuck and Sally with Baby Trig at the hospital and compare the babies. Weren't those pictures supposedly taken the some day?

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  149. WHY did Levi put this picture in his book?

    To REMIND SARAH to keep their agreement. What agreement? The one hinted at near the end of Deer in the Headlights (thepalinplace.blogspot.com)

    WHAT jumps out in these pics? I'm leaning toward the green shirt pic being younger than the blue shirt pic for reasons already mentioned and also:

    Green pic hat on backwards/blue pic hat forwards - hints that he had matured. Usually a hat is worn the same way, over and over out of habit. Blue shirt Levi is a more grown-up Levi.

    Just sayin'

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  150. Anonymous9:47 AM

    To which I respond, Sarah and Bristol have unbelievable nerve to seek paid gigs to reward their bad behavior.

    Seriously. They need to be brought down for the swindling they wrought on their supporters, the Candies Foundation, and paid speaking venues.

    Liars. They are like nailing jello to the wall. Is anything about them real or true?

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  151. Anonymous9:48 AM

    Cheap cameras, digital or film, in artificial light are not going to be accurate with respect to skin tone.

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  152. WHY did Levi include this pic?

    To remind SARAH to keep the agreement she made with Levi (thepalinplace.blogspot.com)

    WHAT do the pictures show? Levi is younger in the green shirt, for all reasons mentioned above and also:

    Green pic hat on backwards/blue pic hat forwards - hints that he had matured between the one picture and the next.

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  153. Anonymous9:50 AM

    Anonymous said...
    Whats with the wedding band..holding his mother-in-law's baby in her hospital room??? A mother-in-law the fairy tale trolls say he barely knows??? I would love them to explain this...waiting

    8:53 AM
    -----------------------------------
    Why would you refer to Sarah Palin as Levi's MIL? Levi has never been married and at the time of the birth (S) he and Brisket were not even engaged.

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  154. Anonymous9:53 AM

    Does every teen girl in Alaska Breed like Brisket? If so your population must be booming up tere and the sales of tents and wine coolers must be a huge money maker!

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  155. Anonymous9:54 AM

    Why are there regulars from Mudflats here today saying, "nothing to see here, move along" ?

    bullshit "there's no difference in skin tone" and "it's the lighting." Lighting does not account for a sunburn on top of a good base tan!!!

    Come on people.

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  156. Anonymous9:54 AM

    Here's what I make of this: All of these people are flippin crazy and totally devoid of morals. I do think that, someday soon, we WILL know WTF went on with Levi, Bristol, Sarah, Trig, Ruffles, et al. Something will come to light.

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  157. Anonymous9:55 AM

    There is so much wrong with the photos and the stories that it just calls out "amateur cover up." My daughter has been married for years. If I was sick, in the hospital or just delivered a baby, there is no way that my son-in-law is going to be sitting on a sofa next to my bed while I sleep. No way!

    There is no way that a 20 year old boy refers to the deluxe birthing hospital suite of the little MatSu hospital. Boys call it a room. Sarah, needing to explain the sofa, the unrelated people and any6thing else would call it a birthing suite.

    The baby was premature, had a hole in its heart, jaundice and Levi looks like a dirty mess. He also wrote on his My Space that he didn't want to have any f-ing babies. He would be the last person I would expect to see tenderly holding anyone's baby, let alone a baby with special needs. That hospital should be charged with neglect. Levi should be wearing a gown and a mask, especially since he describes a scene that takes place soon after Sarah needed to be induced, she is snoozing (boys don't say that) and exhausted from labor.

    None of the stories and photos make sense. For all we know, that is a photo of Levi holding some cousin's kid, the photo taken at some other date. Why is he wearing a wedding ring? The sounds like the plot of a bad movie where the writer never had thought through the plot or the characters very carefully.

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  158. Anonymous9:55 AM

    Fuji Film on the back of the print is just the name of the paper mfg. The date stamp is the day they were printed. I suspect they were printed at Walmart in Wasilla or at Costco in Anchorage. Are they 5x7" in size? They could be either from a film or digital camera, but I suspect they are from a digital camera as the color balance looks correct for mixed light sources (flash and overhead).

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  159. Anonymous9:57 AM

    @ 8:32- I had a baby at this hospital April, 2007. Babies are given the typical hospital baby hat until their first bath. A knitting group makes hats for all the new babies- nice personal touch. After they are bathed, the babies wear the knitted hats. The blankets we used had pastel blue bears on them.

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  160. Anonymous9:57 AM

    That green shirt photo is a young father with his baby for sure. That tan and younger looking face tell me it was summer in Alaska, the summer of 2007 perhaps. Teenage boys do not look loving down at other people's babies in photos. They look at the camera. AND they are typically not the only one in the photo. If that was his girlfriend's mother's baby, Bristol would also be in the photo.

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  161. Anonymous10:08 AM

    The baby Levi is holding? Looks like little Tripp.


    I said that also the first time Grif posted the picture. I was jumped on immediately by a troll, so it's probably true.

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  162. Anonymous10:15 AM

    What if this whole Palin debachle was the biggest reality show ever?

    Dysfunctional family brought in to the fold. Their lives are played out in the media & tabloids. The reason the babies keep changing is because of child labor laws. Bristol's boyfriends keep changing depending on the season contracts. Todd only signed up for 2 seasons, but the money is good so he keeps renewing. (he wishes Sarah hadn't thrown the ring in the lake after season 2) They tried a location change, but found that productions costs were more in Arizona.

    Kind of like a Truman show, but the joke is on us.

    I wish all of this was fake. It would hard to write believeable fiction this messed up.

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  163. Anonymous10:17 AM

    rumors in the valley were that Levi and Bristol were married when they were 16 - that would explain the wedding ring in the green shirt photo.


    At the time, it was said that SP INSISTED they be married.

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  164. Anonymous10:17 AM

    OK;this has really been bugging me.
    Levi claimed, on the Joy Behar show, that he had his hair cut short because the RNC didn't like his mullet: http://cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2011/09/21/behar-levi-johnston.hln

    So he still had a mullet before September 2008? Or is Levi makin' it up?

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  165. MNmomof410:20 AM

    Here's what I see...in the photo provided by Levi in his book,an embellishment, a bow?? knitted in the same material as the white baby hat,not evident in the photos provided by Gryphen. Look at the cap outline just above Levi's arm
    cradling the baby's head. Am I wrong....the hat looks more feminine.

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  166. Anonymous10:22 AM

    http://www.news.lalate.com/pictures/levi7.html


    no tattoo

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  167. Anonymous10:25 AM

    http://www.news.lalate.com/pictures/levi3.html


    2006-2007 curly haired Levi before blond

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  168. Anonymous10:30 AM

    When did Levi get the Tattoo??

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  169. Dis Gusted10:30 AM

    The Johnston tattoo is real, not just printed by Mercede. If you look at his Playgirl photo spread, the tattoo is present.

    If you look at the pictures of him changing the diaper of a baby boy, there is no tattoo. The boy is a lot bigger than the Triggybear photos, but the tattoo is not present YET.

    http://www.televisioninternet.com/news/pictures/levi-johnston-1.jpg

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  170. Anonymous10:32 AM

    There is also the picture you published of Levi with newborn 12/08 Tripp.

    http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2011/06/previously-unknown-pictures-of-levi.html

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  171. Anonymous10:34 AM

    Wow, imagine how any of this would be possible without
    Bloggers
    Digital photos
    Mobile uploads
    John McCain

    thanks technology...and one old crusty fart who introduced the world to Sarah Palin...
    (the world OUTSIDE of Alaksa that is)

    Is it far fetched to think the Palin klan thought they could get away with this?? I mean, who would know???
    without facebook, and myspace and uploading and tweeting and blogging and mobile uploads...
    this wouldn't even be a story.

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  172. Anonymous10:39 AM

    My guess: green shirt photos taken with a cheapo disposable film camera that has a flash, development included in price.


    The only people I know who use those are older folks without a digital...like my mom.

    ~Canuck~

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  173. Anonymous10:46 AM

    Sarah Palin Has Become a Global Threat

    A National Security Threat is anything that represents a threat to the safety and security of America. Until today we viewed Sarah Palin as destructive to the United States because of the discord she inspired throughout this country. By telling lies about the President and the leadership in this country, Palin has promoted a feeling of fear and insecurity across the country. She is not a politician. She is not the Governor of any state. She is not even a mayor. She is not a candidate for any political office. Yet she feels it appropriate to leave her children and travel to South Korea to begin a campaign to instill fear on a global level. She is now condemning the “Political Elite” not only in the United States, but has broadened her attack on Europe and China.

    Sarah Palin Has Become a Global Threat

    October 11, 2011 in Uncategorized






    19 Votes

    A National Security Threat is anything that represents a threat to the safety and security of America. Until today we viewed Sarah Palin as destructive to the United States because of the discord she inspired throughout this country. By telling lies about the President and the leadership in this country, Palin has promoted a feeling of fear and insecurity across the country. She is not a politician. She is not the Governor of any state. She is not even a mayor. She is not a candidate for any political office. Yet she feels it appropriate to leave her children and travel to South Korea to begin a campaign to instill fear on a global level. She is now condemning the “Political Elite” not only in the United States, but has broadened her attack on Europe and China.

    In her speech in South Korea, she declared there would be a “woman president of the United States.” She accused China of seeking to use its military influence in regional disputes. She proclaimed the need to oust North Korea’s dictator. Palin cited the Arab Spring as proof that new information technology was playing an “enormous role” in spreading cries for freedom. She said “ China has a reputation for wanting to exercise its military influence to sway territorial disputes in the South China Sea.” In North Korea, the first victims of the regime are the country’s people, she said.”That is so inherently unfair and unjust that I look forward to this entire region being able to rebuild, South Korea being able to assist North Korea when that regime is finally ousted.”

    What gives Sarah Palin the right to involve herself in global affairs? Even if the things she said are true, who ordained her to lodge an attack on these countries? “Diplomacy” is essential in maintaining world peace, and Palin doesn’t seem to be familiar with that concept. She is now posing a national threat to the safety and security of this country as a result of direct attacks on countries like China and North Korea. John McCain, the Republican Party, and Fox News has promoted the image of Sarah Palin as a leader in the United States. It is not enough for the government to say that she doesn’t represent our country. The perception of the international community is what matters. If a known terrorist attempted to enter the country, they would be stopped by passport control. Perhaps Palin should be added to the “no fly” list as an enemy of the state...

    http://malialitman.wordpress.com/2011/10/11/sarah-palin-has-become-a-global-threat/

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  174. Anonymous10:46 AM

    Ahem is just joshing. Has been doing it a few days now and I think they are pretty funny, actually.

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  175. Anonymous10:46 AM

    Sherrie and Sadie should be able to clear up the questions of when Levi got the tattoo, when he wore his hair long and blond, and where the photos of him holding the baby in the hospital came from. Sherrie had the photos, right?

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  176. Anonymous10:47 AM

    Stop blogging. STOP BLOGGING RIGHT NOW!

    7:18 AM
    _____________________________________

    Ahem, you CRACK ME UP with these!!!

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  177. Anonymous10:48 AM

    Can someone tell me why the links don't work on this blog?

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  178. Anonymous10:48 AM

    @ Dis Gusted - 10:30

    Same scene but with Levi's tattoo on his arm.

    http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/
    MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new
    /090528-GQ-levi-johnson.grid-4x2.jpg

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  179. Anonymous10:49 AM

    "Another thing that is weird. Why is the only picture of someone holding the newborn Trig in the hospital room, Levi?

    No Track, Bristol, Willow or Todd? Just the barely tolerated daughter's boyfriend?

    If they were passing the newborn preemie, DS, hole-in-the-heart baby around to all and sundry why aren't the pictures of the whole family holding him?"

    BINGO! To me this has been one of the most odd (and dare I say damning?) aspects of this whole charade. Obviously there was someone there with a camera, so why no pictures of ANY of the family holding the baby? All we have are pics of skeezy Levi (young punk BF of Bristol). No Todd? No siblings? No Chuck? No Sally? No Sarah even? WTF?

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  180. Anonymous10:50 AM

    Where's the Anchorage or Wasilla tattoo artist who remembers the date s/he inked the Gov's son-in-law-ish?

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  181. Anonymous10:54 AM

    Where are the originals of the many FB/Myspace pix that disappeared, of Levi and pals from ages 16 - 18, posted on specific dates showing various haircuts/looks/A&F tshirts

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  182. Anonymous10:55 AM

    (ahem) -- you rock!!! You make me laugh out loud!!

    Southern Virginia Voter

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  183. anon 734 - "Ahem" was spoofing - didn't you recognize all the trademark troll phrases neatly stitchec together?

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  184. Anonymous11:00 AM

    I think we all need to let go of favorite pet theories. Bristol may be loose and fertile, perhaps birthmother to more than one baby, but geez-louise, she has not cranked out a baby every ten-eleven months since 2007 or 2008. She just hasn't, so quit it. She is a "mother duck" for the blue-eyed, blonde stand-in for Tripp, that one didn't spring from her loins. Well, couldn't she be?
    If we believe Tank, we have to let go of previously held ideas but some things actually begin to make more sense. Levi has custody of Tripp. Covering for Sarah Palin could ostensibly provide him with secure income and housing and the custody of the one kid that is his. Part of the price tag is estrangement from Sadie and Sherry but it was a deal he was willing to make. Team Levi has appeared to us to be working against Levi because we were making assumptions that were not actually relevant. He has custody of his actual son. Team Levi's machinations keep the facade intact so that he can retain custody and so Sarah can cover her Trig "birth story"/Tripp#2 aka "see, Bristol can't be Trig's mom" fairy tale. All Bristol/Sarah's badmouthing of Levi are wholly irrelevant under this new scenario. He isn't fighting back because he's in on the game. He isn't asking for custody or child support changes because the deal is already what he wants and has agreed to.
    Gryphen, I would guess these green t-shirt pictures were taken by Bristol of Levi and real Tripp just before the wheels were set in motion on this crazy melodrama; with a drugstore, throwaway camera. She developed them in duplicate, one set for herself and one for Levi, as keepsakes. She surely never thought her private nightmare would be public. They were minor children caught up in an adult/political situation. Her hardcopy was only dug out for use in Levi's book because you published a copy found by Levi's family.
    Anyone else think this makes sense?
    I would really love to hear from Sadie now about when Levi wore his hair like that.
    I think the tan is irrelevant. Levi was living with the Palins a lot of the time and they had a tanning bed.
    I think the tattoo is probably photoshopped and therefore also irrelevant.
    I think the picture with Levi, Sadie and tiny baby in Palin kitchen could be Trig,Trig stand-in or Tripp. So, not really too informative.

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  185. Anonymous11:01 AM

    Write your book, Gryphen.

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  186. Anonymous11:03 AM

    Now, if I'm wrong, please let me know, but didn't Palin say right after she had the kid, she starting doing Gov. work? It seem she said something to that effect in her emails that were published. How is she sleeping and working at the same time.

    Like Judge Judy says, if you tell the truth, you don't have to remember the lie. Good advice to that bunch of lying sacks of shit.

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  187. Here is the pic of the grandparent holding the newborn baby

    http://www.verumserum.com/media/2011/04/trig-palin-2.jpg
    Look at the blanket and hat, completely different from the pic Levi with the green shirt. The baby with the Heath is a bigger baby. I believe it is Piper and not Trig.

    This is another pic of Levi with dark blond hair... from Mecede's blog...

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KxV6QPhgz3U/ThEct8hBY_I/AAAAAAAAABU/F0F7_AvKUUM/s1600/levi+and+Bristol+sleeping.jpg

    Levi was about 16 and Bristol about 15... I believe it is before or right after the camping trip.

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  188. Firecracker11:08 AM

    The photo paper will tell you nothing about the type of camera used. I only shoot digital but have prints on Fuji Film paper that I had printed out at Fred Meyer's. I believe Wal-Mart uses Fuji paper as well but am not certain. It only tells you that where ever the prints were made used that type of photo paper. If you have a digital copy of the picture it often has information embedded on the type of camera used, date taken, etc.

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  189. FEDUP!!!11:09 AM

    O/T, but it seems that $arah is putting global politics in danger with her screech in South Korea, calling, in effect, for the overthrow of the North Korean Regime, and also, too for China to ditch their rulers.
    She is dangerously close to skirting provoking WWIII!
    Even Korea realizes that:

    From http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/10/116_96469.html :

    "...Regarding Palin’s remark, the Seoul government showed a cautious response.

    Jo Byoung-jae, spokesman for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, said flatly “regime change is not a policy goal or the objective of this government.”

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  190. Anonymous11:09 AM

    I'm going on gut here and as a mother of a son in his 20's--

    The photo on the right is earlier. Yes, Levi's beefier, but if Tripp were born first (as yesterday's post suggests) and way earlier than we thought, Levi would be closer to his hockey days, when he would have been beefier and more cleancut. (I'm basing that on coaching and on his HS hockey photo.)

    The left photo is taken 6-10 mo later and shows the effects of too much Palin family on Levi. He's faced fatherhood, Sarah madness, Bristol's rages. He's no longer playing hockey-- so bored, he dyes his hair and let's his body go.

    One thing is certain. The Triggybear photos are happy ones. The left photo (green shirt) just looks scared and bewildered, which is what I'd look like if I'd been ordered to Sarah's bedside to hold my girlfriend's mother's baby.

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  191. Anonymous11:10 AM

    So this kid who never really had a relationship with their daughter, other than to knock her up (according to the Palins.....and that supposedly happened after Sarah gave birth to Trigg) was right there at a moment when only close family members are there.

    The best scenario I could hope for out of all this is that Sarah wasn't getting any from Todd, so she cougared up to her daughter's horny boyfriend and he knocked her up and she had a DS baby. She hid the pregnancy so long because she wanted Todd to forget when the last time was they had sex so he couldn't do the math and figure out the fact that he couldn't have been the father. Then somehow Bristol figured it out and kicked Levi to the curb. But because of money and fame, all of them had to hide the secret and they lived unhappily ever after, all hating each other, but each of them having enough on the others that none of them could rat out the others. The End.

    At this point, that little scenario makes as much sense as anything to me. And it makes me smile!

    Rick

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  192. Anonymous11:12 AM

    Griff, I have 45 years of pre-press experience and I have been all digital since 1984. Levi probably had his hair cut between the top 2 photos and Flesh Tones will never be the same when times and settings change, and possibly the camera. Fugi print paper is marked 'Fugi Film' on the back side no matter what kind of camera was used. These are 2 different photos from a digital camera. The second photo was caused by the shutter release being held down after the 1st photo was taken just seconds apart. The baby and Levi are both moving between the 2 shots, which accounts for the slight differences. I didn't read all of the comments so your questions may have been already answered. But, if you have any other photos you want analyzed I will be happy to pick them apart also.

    Robert

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  193. Anonymous11:12 AM

    Just finished reading the comments. Scrolled back up to look at the pictures again. Why isn't the JOHNSTON tattoo visible in these pictures as we saw in the kitchen pictures we saw months ago? What is A & F??
    About 22 years ago, birthing rooms became very popular. Labor and delivery in same room and one or two days later. "Drive-thru" birthing! I had 4 of our six brand babies born in such rooms. They all looked alike and they were in 4 different hospitals from Washington to CO. They all had a built in couch along the window (not beside the bed) for hubby, significant other or mother to lay down and rest during labor or for visitors to sit. We have pictures of the other children sitting on the couch holding their new sibling with one of the family helping to support the head.

    The baby was removed from the room to the nursery for processing after the birth and was brought out to the mother for nursing/visiting. I was there for 3 of the births and all people in the room had gowns and masks on during the birth. Not later. One of our babies was a 34 week preemie and she was taken immediately to the nursery and into an incubater where she stayed for two weeks, only being taken out as she got closer to 5 pounds and to teach the mother how to deal with a preemie taking the bottle. We could go into the nursery to see her (with a gown) but could not hold her. We could touch her very gently. I loved how she would grasp my finger with her little hand! We had to scrub before we were gowned.

    When I worked in the nursery years before this and with these babies too, we had rolls of sterilized knit tubing that we would cut off to a certain length and knot one end and roll up the other to fit the little heads for caps. They came in pink and blue. I have never seen hand knitted caps allowed in the nursery (germs). Each day, every baby got a new cap or more often if they would spit up on them. The hat on these babies appeared to be hand knit. Things could be different in Alaska but germ control is the utmost job in most hospitals.

    These pictures looked like they were staged in an empty birthing room.

    When the birth is immanent, the bed is pulled away from the wall, the bottom of the bed comes off, rubber draping is placed under the mom, stirrups are pulled out, the mother is draped, the doctor pulls up a stool and the birth takes place. Surgical trays are wheeled in for epesiotomies, head clamps are on the tray, needles, suture, scalpals, are all layed out and it becomes a surgical room with everything a delivery room needs. The incubator is there with the nurse to recieve the baby and do the initial measurements and cleansing, It is then taken back to the nursery to finish all the work,charting, etc is completed. The baby just doesn't pop out and handed to the closest warm body! The doctor is busy delivering the placenta and checking for hemorrhaging. The mess is cleaned up, the fluid pan is removed, the stirrups are cleaned and inserted back into the bed, the bottom of the bed is attached and the patient will probably have the feet elevated to keep mamma from going into shock after the loss of blood and fluids during delivery. The family will often follow the baby down to the nursery while mama gets her composure back! And all the vitals are being taken to see she is not going into shock and she can wash her hands and face after the ordeal. As most of our doctors would tell the mama's...it took you 9 months to get here and 9 month to get back into shape! I saw very few mama's leaving the hospital in their regular clothes! Robes, breast pads. extra long sanitary pads and feeling like a truck had hit them. I doubt very much that Sarah had her hair done, put on those monkey pumps and that pencil-thin skirt wearing a smile for an interview in her office 3 days later!!

    Having 3 boys, those two pictures of Levi had to be several months apart!

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  194. Anonymous11:14 AM

    This is all we need to know:
    http://www.palindeception.com/subpages/subpage10.html

    Isn't it time we stopped pretending that Sadie is on the level?

    Isn't it time we just accept that Bristol is the mother of Sarah's faked pregnancy?

    Or is that going to just put an end to speculation too soon?

    All that's lacking now is getting it out to the world and that's not happening here and never will on this blog. It's just not a popular issue with the public. Too bad though because it proves that palin is a phony lying bitch.

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  195. Virginia Voter11:16 AM

    9:24 and 10:54

    Here ya go:

    http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2008/09/bristol-palin-photos-guns-booze-and-girl-on-girl-action/

    No blond highlights

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  196. Anonymous11:18 AM

    I left a note earlier about the difference in the window. I said one has blinds and the other looks like white bricks or lathing. Also the window ledge is different in the two pictures.
    Pat Padrnos

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  197. Anonymous11:19 AM

    Wearing green, with blonde tips, and a ring, I think Levi looks sixteen in that photo. And in the other photo where he's wearing almost black blue, with a hair cut, and a new (really) tattoo, I think he looks like he's in the middle of a growth spurt and voice change.

    Screechy said she only saw that boy, what, twice?! Screechy was not in bed like Levi said because she was not pregnant during that partial term. So, who can I believe? Neither.

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  198. Anonymous11:20 AM

    My son is about the age Levi was then. If his looked changed that significantly, I would recall when that happened, and if he was dating the governor's daughter and was visiting her at the hospital, I would remember that. Can't Levi's family fill in any of these blanks? The timing of the appearance of this photo and it being given to you seems unusual.

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  199. Betsy S11:20 AM

    Gryphen, I think you once posted a picture of Levi holding a baby, WITH ANOTHER BABY'S ARM just out of the picture. It might have obtained been from Sadie--and didn't she say somthing like the second baby was "some other family member?" Does anybody still have this pic?

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