As Republicans begin to gear up for the 2016 presidential race, GOP insiders have one major concern that wasn't mentioned anywhere in the RNC's autopsy report.
Her name is Hillary Clinton, and Republicans worry that they won't have a shot against her, regardless of what changes the party makes before 2016.
Although most Republican strategists would not go on the record disparaging the party's chances, in private conversations with Business Insider, many savvy GOP insiders conceded that any Republican nominee would face an uphill battle against the former Secretary of State.
"If she runs, it'll be almost impossible, I fear," one Washington-based Republican strategist told Business Insider.
A New York-based GOP media strategist concurred: "It will be extremely hard for Republicans to beat Hillary in 2016," he said, adding that the difficulties would be compounded if the party nominates another candidate who fails to ignite the conservative base.
"Should Hilary run and Jeb [Bush] be the nominees, how can you ever defend the Bush years against the Clinton years?"
I asked in my last post who could possibly follow President Obama's amazing presidency? I think we have our answer.
Oh and by the way, for the troll that is about to post that the Republicans prepared for a Hillary campaign in 2008 and are prepared with all kinds of ammunition to use against her, all I have to say is that they prepared for the 2008 Hillary Clinton, they have NOTHING in their repertoire to deal with the 2016 Hillary Clinton.
What are they going to do, yell "Benghazi" while stomping their feet and pulling their hair?
"What are they going to do, yell "Benghazi" while stomping their feet and pulling their hair?"
ReplyDeleteWell, yes, after all, that *is* what they have been doing since the attack in Benghazi. Why change a winning strategy?
Oh, wait...
Until they start being honest about what actually happened, yes, the topic should be discussed.
DeleteOh, yes, "11:00am", why don't you go ahead and explain to all of us just what "actually happened"...
Delete11:00, after you explain to us exactly what happened, would you please give an explanation for all the Americans killed in various attacks while Bush was in office?
DeleteOlivia -
DeleteBut you KNOW that was different because...well...umm....
How about a Sarah Palin sex change: Samuel Palin?
ReplyDeleteIt can only improve her looks. She already has that masculine look and the flat ass of a 10-yr old boy. I'm sure Toddy will be more attracted to her once she has a set of her own balls and can give him back his tiny shriveled raisins hat she keeps in her purse.
DeleteSara won't do a sex change. she loves her belmonts and knowing how many men have abused themselves thinking about working her over.
ReplyDeleteWhat does this have to do with Hillary?
DeleteWhat does Sarah have to do with anything? Not much, other than a numerous moment laughing at her trying to be something she's not--- competent.
DeleteJeb Bush could probably beat Hillary, with a lot of GOP trickery and voter fraud.
ReplyDeleteThey're good at that stuff.
He is already losing to Hillary in his own state in polls that were announced yesterday. Plus, he can't win due to his brother's record when he was president. He'd be cremated if he ran!
DeleteEvery time I read or see a reference to Jeb Bush as a potential nominee for 2016, I cringe. Does the Bush family plan to finish doing in the US with a third president in the family?
DeleteBeaglemom
I look forward to the Hilary-in-shades "I got this" tweets to rise again
ReplyDeleteI can hardly wait to vote for Hillary Clinton. Love the idea of her following President Obama! We will likely have 8 years of Dems in the White House and it will be outstanding.
ReplyDeleteI doubt the Republicans will constantly demean her as they have our wonderful President Obama for his first term and are continuing the same thing into his second. He beats the shit out of them in spite of their obstruction.
Hillary will run circles around them too!!! Love the idea of President Clinton being the husband to President Hillary Clinton too!!!
How did the subject change to Sarah Palin for crying out loud! She's a fraud and idiot.
ReplyDeleteHillary Clinton is a fine, fine example to women across the USA. I can hardly wait to vote for her!
It will be nice to see her take the reins from President Obama with an improved economy and possibly both houses of Congress.
DeleteI still think it's funny that people who hated everything about HIllary in her Presidential campaign years ago now are kissing her hiney. Lookin at you G man.
ReplyDeleteHas there been any other politician go from being reviled to being worshipped in less than a decade? Less than 5 years?
That's remarkable. And probably stupid considering nothing has had time to change with the person, though people can change day to day and do.
Let's hope Hillary is no longer a farleft, 2 bit hack who doesn't think things through as far as political goals and policy.
You are overlooking Hillary's 4 years as the Secretary of State. She is respected all over the world. In 2008, I would have been happy with Hillary or Barrack although after Barrack's 2004 speech at the Dec convention, I knew he was destined to be President. I sincerely hope that Hillary decides to run - I will do everything I can do to help her win.
Delete10:59am. It must be miserable being you. Still whining about 5+ yrs ago. Get on with your life. lol
DeleteI was a volunteer for the Obama campaign in 2008, and while I supported him over Hillary, I certainly did not 'revile' her, nor did any of the other volunteers I knew. You right-wing trolls just don't get it, because you are so disrespectful and full of hate. It's possible to support a person you believe to be a better candidate without having to resort to hatred of opponents. That's how civilized people act. Now that Obama has been elected TWICE, I am happy to support Hillary Clinton in a bid for the presidency. I also believe that her term as Secretary of State has made her a greater candidate than she was in 2008. And I would have supported her even then, had she won the nomination.
DeleteSarah Palin has gone from being worshipped to being reviled/laughed at in less than 5 years.
DeleteSo Sarah's been reduced to bitter posts on liberal blogs LMAO!!!!!
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DeleteHilary was never far left. Are you kidding? She voted for the Iraq war and I've always thought of her as a bit conservative.
If you hold grudges and let a tough campaign be a yardstick, no one of any quality would ever get elected. Sure---many people did not exactly love what happened in 2008. But Hilary showed what she was made of as Sec. of State. And bouncing decent democrats out of the party is not what we do---unlike what the hysterical GOP does to people in their party who don't eat paste and think the world is round.
And as far as hacks go---we have the whole of the damned GOP who fill out the hack end of politics. Better?
I was a Hillary supporter during the 2008 primary. She was my candidate of choice. It will be nice to finally cast my vote for her in 2016. I simply didn't know enough about Obama to cast my vote for POTUS in 2008 but after watching him for 4 years I did vote for him in 2012.
DeleteThe troll in the first comment loves to pigeonhole all liberals but we don't all just vote in lockstep. Sometimes we vote for other progressive parties, such as Green, and sometimes we don't vote for a candidate until we find out more.
Hillary's accomplishments speak for themselves and I feel she is the strongest Democratic candidate we've had since her husband! She too will most likely face an obstructionist Congress but I think she just might have a few tricks up her sleeve.
@10.59am:
DeleteYes, and I know YOU could certainly do better if you won the nomination.
Oh, wait....
This same ole limited troll always makes the BIG FAT MISTAKE of assuming that we're all "Democrats" on IM. No. That's why only 20% of the population identifies with the GOP, now, though. You "Conservatives" keep misunderstanding who "We The People" really are. Bye bye, GOP.
DeleteShe's running. I can't wait.
ReplyDeleteI can't wait either...
Delete10:59 Stupid statement as to Hillary. She's gonna win, win, win because she is a 'winner'!
ReplyDeleteI respect Mrs. Clinton greatly, most especially her recent work as Sec. of State. I do however, have some reservations about her past record. Again, like Obama, we have pretty much a centrist being posed as a progressive.
ReplyDeleteI also have some reservations about returning a Clinton to the White House. Smacks of Theocracy. However, I'd much rather see a Clinton in the White House than any Republican! (Especially a Bush!)
I'd like to see Elizabeth Warren in 2016. I'm imagining the Democratic runoff debates - Hillary against Elizabeth - wouldn't that be a great thing to see?
I don't know much about Hillary's voting record in the Senate other than that she supported the Iraq war. It seems that others' support for her is more personal than based on her record. My criticism of Palin/Marty Rutherford/TransCanada pipeline applies to Hillary. As Sec. of State, she had ties to TransCanada and was (is?) favorable to the pipeline.
DeleteOn the other hand, Hillary worked hard for single-payer healthcare during Pres. Clinton's administration. As Sec. of State, she was a strong advocate for women's rights and freedom. That's enough for me to vote for her over any GOP opponent. We're still a 'center' nation and I think electing a true progressive would be a crap-shoot.
1:03 -
DeleteAs a New Yorker, I was very happy with Hillary as my Senator and was sorry to lose her, despite thinking she did a superb job as SoS. Although many people were originally skeptical because she was not considered a 'real' NYer prior to the election, she changed a lot of minds during the time she served. She spent a LOT of time travelling the state in the beginning of her term, talking to people and learning about what New Yorkers needed. She worked hard for the state and helped bring a lot of much-needed economic development to western NY where I live. Fortunately, after she left we got a wonderful replacement in Kirsten Gillibrand.
While I am a strong supporter of President Obama, I supported Hillary when she ran in 2008 and wanted to see her as President with Obama as VP, and then have him elected POTUS for the 8 years after that. Maybe I'll be lucky and get that after all, just in a slightly different order!
Clinton-Warren 2016!
DeleteSen Clinton voted with the majority to allow GWB to invade Iraq.
DeleteGOP candidates who lose primaries do not win later elections - I doubt that Hillary would be any different - but I don't believe she will run. Bill wants Hillary to be President more than Hillary wants to the President.
Hey, wasn't that what all the jive ass posturing was about at the Benghazi hearings? creating sound clips for 2016?
ReplyDeleteThe bottom line is they got nothing PERIOD, because of their policies. 10 million bucks to blow on minority outreach, while you're still disenfranchising the people you want to attract is quantum dumb ass.
12:00 I think it would be wonderful if Elizabeth Warren ran as VP w/Hillary and then after Hillary completes her second term, Elizabeth Warren could serve 8 years as POTUS. Wouldn't that be a kick? Wouldn't the Republicans be pissed!
ReplyDeleteYes, and yes!
DeleteYes, and yes and another YES!!!!!!
DeleteI would be ecstatic if that happened.
DeleteLooks like Sayrah's home bored, what with the desert that is her day planner nowadays!!
ReplyDeleteReading IM's posts with her one good eyed while picking the lint off her gnarly toes!
Bwahahahaha!!!!
Appears she's living in Arizona now as one of the commenters on her Facebook post today was talking to her about the weather in Scottsdale.
DeleteYeah but I think you meant the commenter was talking AT her.
DeleteHer Highness Cross Eyed Tarantula of Darkness doesn't deign interact with her stunned cash cows.
The reason that Palin's name comes up is that one reason for her being the VP nominee was to pick up the disenchanted Hillary supporters. But it didn't turn out that way. Hillary is smart and Palin isn't and wasn't. Hillary works hard and Sarah doesn't. There was no comparison.
ReplyDeleteThat move alone showed how dumb John McCain is! Whatever made him think that Hillary Clinton supporters would automatically be Sarah Palin supporters? It just showed how little John McCain and the GOP knew then or now about women. It also showed how little they credit our intelligence.
DeleteBeaglemom
Hey, it worked for a handful of sad, sorry losers (right, Becky?).
DeleteI don't think you mean "theocracy" since that is a form of government ruled by a deity or god. Remember our two Adams presidents? Nothing wrong with a husband, then a wife since we know Hillary established her ethos as a senator and a secretary of state. A 3rd Bush in the White House will never happen. I'll have to move to Italy.
ReplyDeleteI love Hillary. I was a supporter in the caucuses before Obama won... But I hope she gets a makeover. She's looking like an early Golda Meir. I hate to admit it when Palin bugs the hell out of me. Hillary seems to be oblivious to her looks. Palin cares only about her looks. Can Hillary hit a healthy middle ground? It will improve her chances.
ReplyDelete\Sorry to be so superficial, but as a woman I think it matters if you present your best self.
Anyone who would not vote for HIllary, or any other candidate, because he feels that the candidate needs a "makeover" is the type of shallow individual that many of us hope simply stays home on election day. If your political judgement is based on the candidate's exterior rather than their agenda then you my friend are part of the problem in our fair country.
DeleteShe presents her best self intellectually and diplomatically. Who cares about the rest? (the only people who do are the same people who get an actual or virtual hard on when Sarah Palin winks).
DeleteI think Hillary looks fantastic!
DeleteShe is a 65 year old, highly accomplished woman, who has spent her whole career trying to make your life better. What/who would you rather she looked like?
It isn't just Hillary we should consider getting into office. We need to get the states out of Republican control and take back the House, as well as reduce the numbers of conservatives gumming up the works. If more common sense conservatives rise up to drive off the extreme right, then fine, but right now there isn't much getting done because they are obstructing everything they can.
ReplyDeleteM from MD
Best visual ever..."stomping their feet, pulling their hair and yelling Benghazi!!" Can't you just see the campaign poster for that??
ReplyDeleteExcellent.
And not that I want to hurry along President O's next few years...but 2016 is going to be fun!!
We've got a big job to do in 2014 first. Time to take back the House and any state races we can wrest out of the slimy grip of the right wing.
DeleteI confess, I am not a Hillary fan. But I know there are lots of female voters who are still angry that Obama beat Hillary in the 2008 primary, and they will work their hearts out to make sure Hillary is the Democratic nominee in 2016.
ReplyDeleteDedicated, tenacious, obsessed Hill-bots I'm talking about.
Add to them all the former Obama voters, like myself, who would rather walk on broken glass than vote for a Repub. Hillary cannot lose.
ReplyDeleteShe will crush them, right after she carries their testicles out in her brief case. I love that a strong, intelligent woman is poised to fight off the party of hate (against women and L/B/G/Ts), inequality, racism and idiocy. My gay hairdresser has been waiting for years for Hillary to kick their asses. She will be the first woman president, but more important than that she is going to be the most level headed and qualified person running. I don't agree with her on many things, including foreign policy, but she cares about fairness and equality and wants to help the women of the world who are being oppressed, it is way past time for that to happen. Just think how much fun it will be listening to the idiots who hate women spewing their crazy thinking while she is running and during her presidency.
Hillary cannot win - much as you wish it to be so. The GOP are desperate for her to run - don't get hooked on the media spin - the media carries water for the GOP all the time
ReplyDeleteEveryone I know will vote for her. It has nothing to do with the media. And the GOP has no one.
DeleteKarl Rove is going to make sure Jeb Bush is the GOP candidate. ANYONE will crush him. Jeb will lose at a large margin than Romney did.
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