Thursday, March 06, 2014

Just a few quotes concerning the opinion of "good", and even saintly, Christian men about the role of women.

All quotes courtesy of Atheism and Me:  

What is the difference whether it is in a wife or a mother, it is still Eve the temptress that we must beware of in any woman… I fail to see what use woman can be to man, if one excludes the function of bearing children. — Saint Augustine 

Women should not be enlightened or educated in any way. They should, in fact, be segregated as they are the cause of hideous and involuntary erections in holy men. — Saint Augustine 

Woman was merely man’s helpmate, a function which pertains to her alone. She is not the image of God but as far as man is concerned, he is by himself the image of God. — Saint Augustine 

As regards the individual nature, woman is defective and misbegotten, for the active power of the male seed tends to the production of a perfect likeness in the masculine sex; while the production of a woman comes from defect in the active power. — Saint Thomas Aquinas 

Woman is a misbegotten man and has a faulty and defective nature in comparison to his. Therefore she is unsure in herself. What she cannot get, she seeks to obtain through lying and diabolical deceptions. And so, to put it briefly, one must be on one’s guard with every woman, as if she were a poisonous snake and the horned devil. … Thus in evil and perverse doings woman is cleverer, that is, slyer, than man. Her feelings drive woman toward every evil, just as reason impels man toward all good. — St. Albertus Magnus 

Every woman should be filled with shame by the thought that she is a woman. —Clement of Alexandria,Church father, venerated as a Saint until the 17th century 

If [women] become tired or even die, that does not matter. Let them die in childbirth—that is why they are there. — Martin Luther 

Woman was made for only one reason, to serve and obey man. — John Knox 

Wife: Be content to be insignificant. What loss would it be to God or man had you never been born. — John Wesley 

A wife should submit herself to the leadership of her husband. Leadership in the church should always be male. — Southern Baptist Convention (2000)

As I have said numerous times in the past, there are few things that confuse me more than the fact that so many women still have faith in a religion that has demonstrated nothing but disdain for them since its very inception. 


  1. Anonymous2:56 AM

    At breakfast with my 93-year-old former neighbor last weekend, at one point she said, "I've always loved your laugh. I used to laugh all the time before I was married but Estel (deceased husband) said it was unbecoming of a wife so I quit."

    No man will ever dictate to me what I will or will not do. You want a sammich? Make it yourself.

    1. This is probably why I never married. Him "Can you make me a sammich?" Me "You got a piano tied to your ass?"

  2. Tyrone Shoelace3:43 AM

    You left out:

    "Bitches be crazy" ---Tyrone Shoelace

  3. Anonymous3:48 AM

    You might practice a religion but you don't have faith in a religion, you have faith in a higher power.

    1. Leland4:53 AM

      PLEASE! Alter that to read ONE wherever you write YOU!

      I don't practice any religion, I don't have faith in a religion and I certainly don't have faith in a higher power!

      Crap like the statements above - and many more - are one of the reasons these sleazy trashy fundamentalists are trying the shit they are.

      The above crap is as bad as the idea of original sin! Just another reason to NOT believe.

    2. Anonymous4:56 AM

      Some people have faith in their religion, like Catholics who trust the Pope to make decisions for them or go after abusing priests.

  4. Anonymous3:53 AM

    One need only watch "The Name Of The Rose" to understand how f%cked up Christianity really is..............

  5. Most Christian women have never heard those quotations. It was carefully kept away from them by the priests and ministers, after all, houses of worship couldn’t function without the scullery duties of women. Can you imagine being a pretty nun? Temptress!

  6. Balzafiar5:42 AM

    The difference between the Catholic and other religions, according to an old, old definition:
    Catholic woman with 12 children == good Catholic woman;
    Any other woman with 12 children == wanton hussy.

    That about sums it up, doesn't it.

    1. Leland3:31 PM

      One more equation: ANY woman not catholic = wanton hussy

  7. Anonymous6:21 AM

    Kind of off topic but wtf Oklahoma?

    Oklahoma’s ‘Dr. Mike’ allowed to continue injecting miraculous ‘Jesus shot’ for $300 a pop

    Headline at the Oklahoma source: Convicted Felon, Doctor Injects Oklahomans With 'Jesus Shot'

    The comments at the Oklahoma site: entertaining.

  8. What has always baffled me is how 'men' can have so little regard or respect for that woman they came out of. Men are the result of one half of the chromosomes of a man and one half of the chromosomes of a woman. A marriage of X plus Y equals male. Women are X plus X. Men would not exist without women. However, cloning requires an egg and a few cells from another organism. No intercourse required. Women...can't live without 'em.

    1. Anonymous7:19 AM

      Watch out fellas they're onto us

  9. Anonymous9:27 AM

    Kind of like how any woman could be a Republican. Masochistic tendencies?

  10. LisaB259510:37 AM

    I don't know why anyone would be surprised by these comments. Early church fathers were heavily influenced by Greco-Roman ideas, and women were not well-thought of in the ancient world. Aristotle was a huge influence in this regard, and thought women were unfinished men and therefore inferior.

    The uncomfortable truth is, women were second class citizens long before Christianity ever came around. So all you men who like to pat your enlightened selves on the back and pretend it's just those horrid Christians who ruined it all for women need to realize men didn't need religion to treat women poorly. They were busy doing it long before then. ;)

    It's interesting to note that the Gospel of Thomas, the one record that seems to most forcefully implement these ideas ("Simon Peter said to them, "Mary should leave us, for females are not worthy of life." Jesus said, "See, I am going to attract her to make her male so that she too might become a living spirit that resembles you males. For every female (element) that makes itself male will enter the kingdom of heaven." ) didn't make it into the New Testament.

  11. Anonymous12:11 PM

    I wonder if these statements aren't so much emblematic of Christianity as they are a reflection of the accepted attitudes toward women of the time. These guys were just more literate than most and able to articulate what all men were thinking.

  12. Anonymous2:02 PM

    You know, I used to wonder why Sunday school teachers and pastors/preachers always repeated the same stories over and over again. I was an avid reader as a child and could not figure out why only so many scriptures were never read or shared out of that big ole book. It wasn't until I became an adult did I learn that it's full of bullshit written by men who had mommy issues and blamed women for their struggle with their own sexuality.

  13. Anonymous4:06 PM

    Picked up my intern assignment at the dept. desk and arrived at the professor's office to be greeted with "oh, good, I was hoping for a girl. There's so much filing to be done." Evidently my chromosome combo suited me for work scorned by his previous male interns. A few years later, I really enjoyed telling that prof about my graduate school fellowship.

    I think male entitlement isn't a Christian problem, it's just a PROBLEM.

  14. Anita Winecooler4:44 PM

    You nailed it with this part:

    "As I have said numerous times in the past, there are few things that confuse me more than the fact that so many women still have faith in a religion that has demonstrated nothing but disdain for them since its very inception."

    That's been the only "mystery of faith" in my world view.

    Today's "lesson" from Pope Francis?

    He once stole. Yep, he broke a commandment. He purloined a coveted set of rosary beads out of a dead priest's cold hands because they were such close friends, and he felt the need to take something to remind him of that friendship.

    I think this tipped the "I kinda like the new Pope" see saw for me. Can't wait for the next tidbit confession he makes to show he's just like everyone else. .


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