Friday, October 28, 2011

Psst, can you keep a secret? Good, because I have chapter three of "The Wild Ride" for you to read. But remember, don't tell Sarah!

"Dammit! I thought I stopped this book?"
I will not bore with all of the drama that has erupted around the release of this book (actually to be honest I CAN'T bore you it yet), but have no fear as it is still on track to be released in the very near future. 

There are still last minute pieces of information being added and some behind the scenes dealings with the assholes currently trying to keep it out of your hands. But I have been assured that, come hell or high water, the book is ABSOLUTELY going to be released!

I have been very fortunate to have read seven chapters so far, and personally I am psyched!

I asked if I could share some of it with you and was told that I could, but that I needed to avoid giving away the more hush hush portions.  So I chose to share Chapter Three which is an overview of the mountain of evidence that leaves no doubt that Palin faked her last pregnancy, and then offers the pathetic excuses offered by Palin-bots to refute that evidence.

So with no further ado, let me present Chapter Three of The Wild Ride entitled "The Devil's Details."

"I'm telling you a lie in a vicious effort that you will repeat my lie over and over until it becomes true" – Lady Gaga 

There are multiple irregularities in Palin's pregnancy story and birth history. Some of these irregularities are simply curious (for example, her abruptly canceling her security detail less than 24 hours before she went to Texas on April 16th, and taking only Todd) and others border on the inexplicable (for example, the failure of the flight attendants to notice that she was pregnant as she returned to Alaska on April 18th,, in spite of the fact that a photo allegedly taken only five days earlier showed an advanced stage of pregnancy.) 

Any of these taken alone might be no more than an odd footnote retained in the memory of a few Alaskans. However, when all the anomalies are taken together, presented coherently, and dissected matter-of-factly, one gets a story that becomes so unlikely, so implausible, and so bizarre that it defies all statistical odds that it might be true. 


(Please note that the statements made in this overview will be expanded upon, with appropriate citations, in the following chapters. For this reason, this overview section contains no footnotes.) 

Consider: 

1. Palin never looked pregnant prior to her announcement. There exists no record of any one who knew Palin, including aides, reporters, or casual friends who stated, after her announcement, that they either knew or even suspected that she was expecting a child. The only person who has ever stated that she was beginning to appear pregnant (or that others thought so) was Palin herself. 

2. After her announcement, Palin did not look particularly pregnant, when compared either to "average" women at her announced state of pregnancy, or when compared to a photograph of herself in a prior pregnancy. 

3. Her stage of pregnancy seemed to change, from more visible, to less, to more, to less, multiple times between March 5 and April 18th, 2008. The photographic record on this is clear. 

4. Her birth story is a long list of troubling medical inconsistencies and outright impossibilities. It starts with an inexplicable failure to seek any medical counsel or attention in Texas though her amniotic sac was, by her own account, leaking for ten hours. It continues with her decision to travel on two separate long airline flights, and concludes with her allegedly giving birth at a small community hospital in Palmer Alaska which accepts no "high-risk" women as maternity patients. (Palin, at the time of her alleged admission presented with at least five separate "high risk" criteria.) 

5. Her alleged birth attendant was a family practice physician who was a long time friend, not an obstetrician, and this physician, at the time of Palin's delivery, was no longer actively practicing obstetrics. 

6. Palin has either overtly lied about (or at the very least, changed details of) her birth story on numerous occasions. 

7. Palin has given details about the diagnosis of Trig Palin's Down Syndrome that appear to be a fabrication, and do not match standard diagnostic guidelines. 

8. Palin has never released any medical documentation that her story is true. This includes either a medical record or Trig Palin's birth certificate. 

9. Palin's physician, after releasing several vague statements in the days immediately following Trig's presentation in April of 2008, has subsequently refused to speak to the press on any occasion about the birth, including when asked to do so during the presidential race in the fall of 2008. 

10. Sarah Palin never looked postpartum, when compared to at least one photograph of herself taken after a prior pregnancy. 

11. Palin acknowledged rumors in late winter / early spring 2008 that her daughter was pregnant, and in fact was desperate to discredit these rumors, but never did the obvious thing: appear in public with her. In fact, no photograph appears to exist of Bristol Palin from December 2007 until mid- February 2008, and no public record of her appearing anywhere between early December 2007, and early February, 2008, when she was enrolled at a new school. 

12. Palin sent routine emails to her staff within five hours of the time of Trig Palin's alleged birth that did not mention that she was in the hospital or that he had been born. 

13 . Palin, supposedly thirty-four weeks pregnant, (and eleven days prior to Trig Palin’s “birth,”) sent, from one of her email accounts to another, a draft copy of the letter she eventually sent to friends and family announcing Trig's birth. This email refers to the pregnancy in the past tense, mentions how easy the pregnancy was (even though she still should have had six weeks to go) and seems to reference the fact that he had come early. 

 14. Palin has never offered a single photograph of herself, her husband, or her children with a newborn in the hospital. The only photos that exist are a photo of her daughter Bristol’s boyfriend Levi Johnston, holding a baby alleged to be Trig Palin at Mat-Su hospital, allegedly on April 18th, and several screen shots from a television interview which featured Palin’s parents, Chuck and Sally Heath, holding a baby alleged to be Trig Palin on the afternoon of April 18th. 

What have Sarah Palin and her supporters offered to refute the story? 

1. The statement that she must be telling the truth because she wouldn't lie. 

2. The statement that the story must be false because it is too outrageous/offensive/bizarre to be true. 

3. A vague less-than-two page "medical letter" released by the campaign in the name of her physician the night before the election. This letter did not confirm that the doctor in question was even at the birth, does not state where or when the birth occurred, got the birth year of one of her other children wrong, and left out several major aspects of Palin’s medical history, including two miscarriages, one of which was serious. In addition, the signature on the letter appears to have been tampered with. 

4. A few photographs in which she appears to be pregnant. 

5. Continued outrage that she is even being questioned about this. 

6. Constant assertions that to question her story is nothing but an attack against her children and/or is motivated solely by "hatred" of her pro-life stance. 

7. Repeated references to the fact that because Bristol Palin was allegedly pregnant with her own child by late April of 2008, she could not be Trig’s mother. 

8. Eyewitness testimony from several reporters who state she appeared pregnant during the correct timeframe. 

9. The idea that because older women are more likely to give birth to a child with Down Syndrome, this is ipso facto proof that Trig must be Sarah’s. 

As pointed out in the previous chapter, one strategy used by those who do not wish to consider this story in any sort of critical fashion, is to refuse to look at the “big picture.” They will look at one small piece, and refute it with an argument that sounds somewhat reasonable. However, when one looks at the whole story, with completely fresh and objective eyes, the question becomes not whether Sarah Palin is lying, but why anyone at all thinks she could possibly be telling the truth. 

Now let me remind you that this portion is not meant to reveal any of the new information discovered by Fred, so much of it you are already familiar with.  However trust me that there is certainly information that will be quite new, and quite astonishing to be found in other chapters.

Joe McGinniss, in his book "The Rogue," masterfully set the stage for this book by detailing the official version of Palin's pregnancy, and her "Wild Ride" back to Alaska. 

What Fred has done is to take the hand off from Joe and carry the story forward using photographic evidence, Palin's own e-mails, and a number of interviews, to prove to even the most stubborn Palin supporter that she simply did NOT give birth to Trig Paxson Van Palin on April 18, 2008.

And what is important for you to remember is that this information will FINALLY no longer be relegated to anti-Palin blogs. It will be found on bookstore shelves, and talked about on cable and network television, and factually discussed in newsroom all over the country. My hope is that it will no longer be something that the MSM can continue to completely ignore.

Just like McGinniss was able to discuss the inconsistencies in Palin's version of Trig's birth, so now will Fred be able to discuss the PROOF that Palin made the whole thing up. Now THAT is what I call "must see TV!"

Now I know I talked about a website, and that IS still coming.  However apparently it is taking longer than was anticipated, and currently I do not know have a firm date as to when it will be up and running.

Yes I am frustrated too.  Especially since, as I explained just today, I could have had my friend Dennis Zaki create the whole thing from scratch well over two months ago.

But what can I say? It is not always up to me.

Anyhow I hope you enjoyed Chapter Three, and I will try to bring you more soon.

I will  also let you know the minute the website is up and the minute I know the manuscript is in the hands of the publishers.

P.S. Fred will visit here so if you want to tell him what you think, or send him a message, feel free.


142 comments:

  1. Anonymous1:23 PM

    Thanks, G. and "Fred". A good read, so far. I will buy the book, visit the website and talk, talk, talk it up to all and sundry.

    ReplyDelete
  2. Anonymous1:23 PM

    Yay, Gryph!

    ~Pogo

    ReplyDelete
  3. Anonymous1:27 PM

    This is zero hour, the last possible moment for someone who does know the truth of the Trig story to sell their story to the National Enquirer before this book is released. I'm guessing that NE would pay enough money for the full story with some proof that would allow the person to leave Alaska and retire someplace where Sarah and her pals could not find them. There isn't very much time left to sell that exclusive story. Photos would be a bonus. Just saying.

    ReplyDelete
  4. Anonymous1:29 PM

    Was Lady Gaga talking about the Rove/Bush/Cheney crowd, Goebbels, or Hitler when she said that one?

    Under Wiki's "the big lie" you can find an assessment of Hitler which describes his use of this repetitive brainwashing/propaganda technique.

    Now, on to Sarah Palin and her Wild Ride - whoopeee, Gryphen!!!

    ReplyDelete
  5. Anonymous1:35 PM

    Chapter Three lays it all out. Having each of the many inconsistencies all listed together certainly paints the picture. If the book includes photographs and footnotes, it should be pretty good proof, hard to ignore. I assume the delay has something to do with Mrs. Palin's lawyers, but since they can't prove any of this is false, they have no leg to stand on.

    Thanks for this nice little preview. I'll try to be patient while waiting for the rest.
    ~Pogo

    ReplyDelete
  6. NOW THAT'S WHAT IM TALKIN ABOUT!

    This would make an excellent Christmas gift

    ReplyDelete
  7. Gryphen/Fred

    You guys just brightened up my totally shitty week (husband loses job at end of year, and me, I have a year left then I'm booted--and all found out within the span of two days)

    I really can't wait for this book. I do hope it's out by my birthday (Nov 27th)

    Pretty please with sugar on top...?

    :-)

    ReplyDelete
  8. Anonymous1:43 PM

    Good point, Anon @ 1:27!

    I am curious to see if the trolls really come out now... I suspect Gryphen will be inundated.

    This is fantastic - just this portion is so freakin' compelling! You'd have to be such a complete, stubborn idiot to ignore the cumulative evidence.

    Thank you, "Fred", thank you Gryphen, and thanks Joe G for getting it started! True patriots, one and all.

    This lady's political career will not be over until the truth is out. She will probably come up with her personal family reasons, but in our country lying to this extent is a permanent disqualifier, whatever the motivation.

    I think some of us still wonder if this thing could ever hit the MSM and the national level. Hear that, Matt Lauer (poster child for the MSM, sorry Matt)? Whatcha gonna do with this? Talk about a "get", as they say in the biz.

    ReplyDelete
  9. Anonymous1:54 PM

    I applaud you and Fred, Gryph, for keeping her feet to the fire over this. You've taken, and will continue to take, tremendous heat over it. From that alone, the firestorm it's going to cause must be huge.

    You asked everyone to be patient, and I will continue to be in joyful anticipation that the utter frauds that "family" are exposed beyond refute.

    ReplyDelete
  10. hedgewytch1:57 PM

    Wonder what my chances are of having Palin sign my copy of the "Wild Ride" when I get it and go up to see my Mom in Wasilla? I can just stop right on by the Lake Lucille house, it's just a few miles out of my way. Oh, that's right, Sarah's probably down in Az in that concrete mausoleum she bought. Hmm, maybe Todd will? ;-)

    ReplyDelete
  11. Oh, geez, "Fred," this is what I wanted to hear: "when one looks at the whole story . . . the question becomes not whether Sarah Palin is lying, but why anyone at all thinks she could possibly be telling the truth."

    Still reading.

    ReplyDelete
  12. carollt2:04 PM

    It would be wonderful if the truth came out. The truth is this case is probably the biggest fraud ever by a sitting Governor.

    Americans who were taken in by Sarah Palin are entitled to the truth.

    ReplyDelete
  13. Anonymous2:06 PM

    Ahem...but where is MeAgain?

    (no I'm not trying to be Ahem)

    ReplyDelete
  14. Hi Sarah, Welcome Back!

    Quick Question, Where's Trigs Birth Certificate?

    ReplyDelete
  15. I just hope that what we have thought of as MSM "lack of interest" is not in fact a MSM blackout on this, ordered from the highest levels of ownership of the MSM.

    I'd love to know, when you see fit, who the folks delaying the publication of this info are. And why? And whether that gives us a clue whether it's "lack of interest" vs "media blackout."

    Because, as "Fred" says, once one pays attention to the data (both the overwhelming mountain of circumstantial stuff and the unassailable photos), it is impossible not to realize that Palin hoaxed the electorate.

    And then the obvious and far more important question becomes: were the enablers (McCain and staff; MSM) stupid or deceptive? Has to be one or the other, although I'm expecting all kinds of creative "I didn't know nuthin' 'bout no baby stuff" excuses.

    Bravo Fred! Bravo Gryph! Thank you both for this preview that looks like it could do the job. Can't wait until it's out.

    ReplyDelete
  16. Anonymous2:16 PM

    HI FRED!
    I'm really looking forward to your book, and I want you to get lots of attention.

    Good luck, and as you move forward into this final phase of publication and publicity, stay calm, focused, and professional. Readers, journalists, and detractors will notice that, and it can only help your credibility. Keep it real, and stick to the facts. The firestorm will rage on its own!

    Squee!!

    ReplyDelete
  17. Anonymous2:18 PM

    who really cares about all this old stuff? suppose you think you prove sarah had to have adopted trig, instead of giving birth to him - so what?

    ReplyDelete
  18. Anonymous2:20 PM

    I like this excerpt.

    Can't wait to read the whole book.

    If you happen to read this by mistake Sarah- what about that license plate application? You know which one don't you?

    ReplyDelete
  19. Look forward to buying the book.I do think it will have an impact but her fame is fading. Hard to gauge how many people really give a fuck what this woman does anymore.Let's hope it shuts her lying ass up and Fox finally drops her.

    ReplyDelete
  20. Can't wait till the trolls see this... :)

    ReplyDelete
  21. Excellent. Once it is more mainstream people will become curious and believe it, because it is true.

    ReplyDelete
  22. "What have Sarah Palin and her supporters offered to refute the story?"

    Fred, something like "the story that she was not pregnant with Trig?" would be clearer. At first I read it to be refuting her (fictional) story, which didn't make sense and confused me.

    We cannot thank you enough for trying Big Time (to quote Cheney) to get the MSM to pay attention! Please release it in time to be a holiday gift for all my relatives who've been rolling their eyes at me for over three years.

    And thank you, Gryphen, for helping to birth Fred's baby.

    ReplyDelete
  23. Anonymous2:37 PM

    Two things:

    I don't think it was smart to mention sarahs "post partum" look. There are a lot of pictures of her looking hefty, heftier than her post partum picture with Piper

    2. I also don't think it was smart to mention Bristol, who has nothing to do with Trig. That detail makes trig truthers look like assholes to the general public.

    ReplyDelete
  24. Anonymous2:38 PM

    Her followers are in so much denial that I am not sure that even if she came out and admitted it they would believe it.

    However, I still look forward to this book and can't wait to read it. I truly hope that the LSM does not ignore it.

    This has been one of the biggest hoaxes ever & even if SP never runs for anything ever again we need to discuss how this could have happened and why it happened.

    Thanks for the update!

    ReplyDelete
  25. Smirnonn2:41 PM

    Hey Gryph, thanks for sharing!! :)

    Hi "Fred!!" Looking forward to the book and the website. Time to expose this bizarre fraud situation for what it is. Crumps, even Hollywood couldn't write something this convoluted. Leave it to the snowbilly grif-tard clan to spin such a complicated web.

    ReplyDelete
  26. Anonymous2:43 PM

    I was just reminded that GE owns MSNBC. Is that why Joe McGinnis has not been on Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell or Ed Schultz?

    ReplyDelete
  27. "F" and G: can you offer an opinion re whether Dar plays a role? Just yes, no, don't know, or maybe. In your opinion.

    Also I'd love your opinion on this: Does it help us to discuss the backstory to the hoax? Like who had which baby, when, where, which MD, was there more than one Trig, Bristol's role? Or can we leave all that alone and still get SP+enablers to accept responsibility for her hoax?

    ReplyDelete
  28. Anonymous2:53 PM

    @ 2:18, yes it's over.

    However, the serial and AUDACIOUS lying done in the name of covering up the truth of the situation is something that has never in the history of our country been tolerated, coming from someone at her level of political activity. Little lies, yes. Affair cover-ups and the like, sure.

    But to pretend to be pregnant, to lie over and over and over and over again to cover up the fact that you are/were not - this kind of deception is unheard of.

    Doesn't matter what her reason was. She is a liar. Proven liars cannot hope to hold office in this country.

    That's what we are about here. We are not moralizing about unplanned pregnancies or being unsympathetic about protecting pregnant daughters - we are judging the bold faced lying, period. Lying with a smile - from someone who might have been one heartbeat away from the President's desk, from the nuclear button.

    Having secrets in one's background is not the same thing as actively and repeatedly participating in a cover-up, let's be very clear about that.

    It's about her character. Sarah had a million and one opportunities to deal with this directly. I said long ago that if she had simply said, "I will not discuss this any further, this is a private family matter and our business alone. This has nothing to do with my ability to hold office", blah blah, blah - she might have survived it politically. She didn't have the courage or determination to handle it that way, so now it's going to be the hard way.

    ReplyDelete
  29. WakeUpAmerica2:55 PM

    So if "someone" is trying to prevent the book from being published, the cat must be out of the bag. Why is Fred's identity still a secret? Just curious as this seems unnecessarily cloak and daggarish, but I don't really know.

    ReplyDelete
  30. Anonymous2:56 PM

    Fred, thank you for allowing Gryphen to post a sample from your upcoming (and sure to be groundbreaking) book. The chapter you provided was well written, concise and to the point. I am eagerly looking forward to your book and will let others who need convincing know about this important work as well.

    ReplyDelete
  31. Anonymous2:56 PM

    This is great news and I can't wait to order the book as soon as it is available!!!!!

    Thank you so much for the update and Fred, it sounds as if Palin and her entourage have discovered your identity and are attempting to stop you.

    Remember, there is no greater advocate for freedom of speech than Sarah Palin. She sent her firstborn child off to fight a war just to protect your freedom of speech.

    ReplyDelete
  32. Woo hoo! A Christmas gift for any of 'em - all of 'em. Maybe we should all buy and extra copy and send it to either Sally, Chuck, Sarah or Toad.

    It would be soooo worth it to have UPS pull up and deliver a truck full.

    Allison

    thepalinplace.blogspot.com

    ReplyDelete
  33. Anonymous3:06 PM

    The best evidence that this was a hoax is that Mrs. Palin claims she had an amniocentesis that revealed that her baby would have Down Syndrome.
    The only reason to have an amnio is to detect such possible problems and then terminate the pregnancy.
    A "pro-life" woman wouldn't bother to have the procedure, since it risks the life of the fetus, which can spontaneously abort.
    A "pro-lifer" doesn't choose to keep a baby -- there isn't a question of choice at all. And never a need to have an amnio.
    It doesn't add up.

    ReplyDelete
  34. Anonymous3:08 PM

    Hi G and Fred,

    This is fantastically well written. I'm so happy to know it's happening and there's been care put into it. Everybody needs an editor...Do you have one? I could edit for you--just some punctuation and small changes for clarity, that's all that's really needed. Melly

    ReplyDelete
  35. Anonymous3:08 PM

    I truly feel that the 'zero hour' (the time that this fraudulent scheme must be exposed) is rapidly approaching. I think the time frame is from now until about December 5th, right before the holiday season gets cooking and certainly before the new year. Sarah Palin is going to be so 2010 when the new year rolls around I feel there will not be enough momentum to provide fuel for this story after New Year's eve. That is why it is so critical that this book comes out ASAP. Of course we want the author(s?) to get their ducks in a row and also have a solid media plan in place (website, press materials, good contacts, etc).

    Think of it this way: Every time NASA launches a space craft they have a very, very small window of time in which to get their craft into the proper trajectory/orbit so it can reach its proper destination. Do it too soon or too late and everything goes out the window. The launch of this book (no pun intended) has a very critical time window as well. To early and it won't have the polish or solid backing it needs. Too late and the MSM will not deem it important enough to pursue as SP will be so 'yesterday' and they won't think it's worth taking the flak from the bots that they know they will get over this subject matter.

    My two (or three) cents.

    ReplyDelete
  36. Anonymous3:21 PM

    Thanks for the chapter. I can't wait to get the full book!

    ReplyDelete
  37. Anonymous3:26 PM

    Whoops! Sorry I just read the entire post of that last link which appears as an anti-liberal/pro-Palin website.

    ReplyDelete
  38. Anonymous3:35 PM

    Is she out getting plastic surgery haven't seen her for a while

    ReplyDelete
  39. LoveAndKnishesFromBrooklyn3:36 PM

    Fantastic! Wishing you the best, Fred and many thanks, Gryphen, for sharing this with us. Can't wait to read the whole thing, but I'm patient. The most effective bombshells come when you least expect it.

    And the trolls will be summoned in 3...2...1...

    ReplyDelete
  40. Anonymous3:40 PM

    Very exciting! I want this skank outed and I want her to have to repay every cent of money she grifted off special needs and prolife groups. Every! Single! Cent! Every time she retells her hoax tale and makes money off it needs to be accounted for.

    Also,remember:
    Trygve means "brave victory" or "trustworthy" in old Norse.
    Tri-G means trisomy G, trisomy 21, Down Syndrome. Sarah: please address your horrific naming gaffe of your "precious goft from god." We will continue to ask and wait for your explanation. There are no coincidences.

    ReplyDelete
  41. Anonymous3:44 PM

    This is sounding like a self-published book, and if that's true, it won't be found on bookstore shelves.

    If substantial changes are being made at this late date to the book, then it REALLY sounds self-published.

    Not that there's anything wrong with a self-published effort -- but unless this author works with a minimum (conservative) publicity budget of $10,000 or so, it's highly unlikely this book will be noticed, written about, or talked about by anybody but US.....those who have been following this hoax for a long, long time.

    Look at how hard it has been for an established bestselling author like Joe McGinness to get the mainstream media to follow through on scheduled interviews with him...and he barely even HINTS at Babygate in his current publicity tour.

    So.....highly doubtful that this will reach those who REALLY need to be talking about it....i.e, the true mainstream media.

    Sounds like the wonderful commenters, Tweeters, and other ingenious folks from here and other blogs are going to have to help to do some heavy lifting to spread the word about "Fred's" book.

    It's worth the effort, though. So let's prepare to put some sweat into it.

    ReplyDelete
  42. lwtjb3:48 PM

    "Under Wiki's "the big lie" you can find an assessment of Hitler which describes his use of this repetitive brainwashing/propaganda technique."

    This statement appears to characterize the entire Republican party going back to Reagan. The worst thing is it has worked for them.

    ReplyDelete
  43. This post is a tonic for my depression over the state of the media and renews hope that all will be held responsible. I can’t help wondering if we’d have a different/better crop of GOP candidates if the media had responsibly investigated and reported on babygate and Sarah Palin’s mental state in 2008. Better late than never!

    As immersed as I’ve been in babygate, I still found some new info from Chapter 3:
    *one of the miscarriages was SERIOUS
    *CBJ was not actively practicing obstetrics (have never seen this documented)

    And I’m intrigued.

    I was overwhelmed by the ridiculousness of the refutations seeing them listed this way. I would add that they came, not only from her supporters, but also from the media.

    Keith Olberman and a female journalist guest (I think it was either Margaret Carlson or Joan Walsh) discussed the McCain campaign’s statement 'refuting' the faked pregnancy rumor. The female journalist was aghast that anyone would consider that Palin would do something so horrible...of course the rumor wasn’t true.

    I have a concern about consideration #3: “Her stage of pregnancy seemed to change, from more visible, to less, to more, to less, multiple times between March 5 and April 18th, 2008. The photographic record on this is clear.“

    I’ve read this claim numerous times but have never seen a photo that supports it and I'm pretty sure I've seen all of the 'pregnancy' photos.

    I urge caution if Fred is using stills from Elan Frank’s April 8-9 video as support for shape-shifting. There are versions of the video that are badly distorted and make Palin’s belly look more flat than other existing versions. I have a comparison I can provide if Fred’s interested.

    Playing Devil’s Advocate: Can the Alaska Airline’s statement, "The stage of her pregnancy was not apparent by observation. She did not show any signs of distress," be interpreted that the flight attendants only noticed that the pregnancy wasn’t in the final stage and that she didn’t show signs of labor contractions or leaking rather than that she didn’t appear pregnant at all?

    And...of course...Thank you, thank you, thank you!

    ReplyDelete
  44. hedgewytch3:52 PM

    @ Anony 2:53;

    The lying. We impeached a president for lying about what the meaning of "is" is. We've made congressmen leave their jobs because of lying about taking iphone pictures of themselves in their underwear, for lying about hiking the Appalachian Trail, and whether they toe-tapped a "code" or not in a public bathroom - oh wait, he's still serving - but you get my point - if we have allowed other, longer serving political figures to be run out of town because of lying about their little picadillos, why should this be any different? As you pointed out if she had portrayed the pregnancy as a private matter and kept her kids (any and all of them) out of the public spotlight - this wouldn't even be an issue.

    I can't wait to read the new info in this book.

    ReplyDelete
  45. Anonymous3:52 PM

    @ 2:37, she absolutely did not look typically post-partum. And you sound like you know whereof you speak regarding Bristol and Trig. Or you are just boldly asserting things and trying to sound confident? Spill the beans or write something that isn't debatable.

    Btw, NONE of us care about looking like assholes, but nice of you to be concerned about us.

    Funny how you are giving us tips about how to appear more credible and appealing (in your opinion)!

    ReplyDelete
  46. I've always been curious - and maybe "Fred" talks about this - about the doctors' appointments Palin must have had during her pregnancy. (Or didn't have, as the case may be).

    Are her logs and date books open to the public? If so, has anybody noticed Dr appts listed, either before she announced her "pregnancy", or after? I mean, at her age she was a high risk patient and she would have had loads of appts.

    Oh, and the other thing that always stunk to high heaven to me was the lack of notice by the flight attendants on any of the Alaska Air flights she took to and from Texas. Those attendants are trained to spot pregnancy.

    ReplyDelete
  47. Anonymous4:01 PM

    Gryphen: If the book is still being written, I'd like to have your author write in more depth than in 'The Rogue' about Sarah's early life was like... I understand the church attendence, but the living in a home where Chuck placed the TV in an unheated, gravelled edition to their home.. the wood burning stove upstairs that heated outside Sarah and the girls bedrooms. In Alaska.

    Was her Dad really an accredited teacher... or someone who taught part time.. how was it that Sarah grew up with such a dislike of teachers.

    Examples of her lying..early lying.. maybe that is impossible to find..

    I guess I'm curious to know how she thought she could get away with lies.. was it because she always got away with lying.

    Then surprise" Todd Palin as a high school student is able to purchase a truck for 12,000 cash.. just how amazing is that?? Does the fishing business provide that much ready cash for teenagers?

    I think that Sarah Palin decided to do just about anything the Repubs asked her to do.. for $$$. So, if there is still time and some blank pages to fill.. that is one idea... life in Alaska for SP & her family & environs..

    What about her sisters as supportive of her etc.

    She has an overabundance of what I think of as a sense of entitlement... that it flies off into a superdimension somewhere :)

    Take Care, Grypen.. just ideas..

    ReplyDelete
  48. Anonymous4:02 PM

    psychopaths lie with a straight face. they then go on to add details to the lie for good measure. liars, cheats, psychopaths all.

    ReplyDelete
  49. Anonymous4:11 PM

    the key point to remember is that the GOP allowed the hoax to remain in play during a presidential election.

    ReplyDelete
  50. Unless Fred is some kind of big celebrity, I wouldn't count on the media even acknowledging the existence of this book. Even if he is a celebrity, he will probably run into the same kind of character assassination from MSM types as Joe McGuinness. It will be up to the readers to spread the word about any compelling evidence presented in the book. No matter how convincing the evidence is, the mainstream media is likely to turn a blind eye, just like it has up to this point.

    ReplyDelete
  51. Thank you, Gryphen and "Fred. I'm looking forward to the book's release.

    ReplyDelete
  52. Anonymous said...

    who really cares about all this old stuff? suppose you think you prove sarah had to have adopted trig, instead of giving birth to him - so what?

    2:18 PM
    Anonymous said...

    Two things:

    I don't think it was smart to mention sarahs "post partum" look. There are a lot of pictures of her looking hefty, heftier than her post partum picture with Piper

    2. I also don't think it was smart to mention Bristol, who has nothing to do with Trig. That detail makes trig truthers look like assholes to the general public.
    2:37 PM

    Oh boy...poor trolls...doesn't matter what you guys say....the bottom line is....TRIG PALIN DID NOT COME OUT OF SARAH PALIN'S COOCHIE! Fred's book will prove this...good luck with your delusions.

    ReplyDelete
  53. Anonymous4:28 PM

    Anonymous said...

    The best evidence that this was a hoax is that Mrs. Palin claims she had an amniocentesis that revealed that her baby would have Down Syndrome.
    The only reason to have an amnio is to detect such possible problems and then terminate the pregnancy.
    A "pro-life" woman wouldn't bother to have the procedure, since it risks the life of the fetus, which can spontaneously abort.
    A "pro-lifer" doesn't choose to keep a baby -- there isn't a question of choice at all. And never a need to have an amnio.
    It doesn't add up.
    ********************************

    You are wrong on this one. I had an amnio as what you do in terms of setting up a properly stimulating nursery is vital to a downs baby potential for growth. I wanted to be prepared and ready to go.
    That is actually the thing I have wondered about with SP, did she prep Trigg's environment and prepare everyone on how best to stimulate him so his potential for growth was at it's optimum best. I hate to say it, but don't think so.

    ReplyDelete
  54. Anonymous4:30 PM

    If Fred's identity is still unknown, how can whoever be trying to stop the book from being published?

    ReplyDelete
  55. Anonymous said...
    who really cares about all this old stuff? suppose you think you prove sarah had to have adopted trig, instead of giving birth to him - so what?
    ~~~~~~~~~

    lol...so what....lol...so why pretend that you are pregnant and subsequently given birth?

    That is Palin's "bona fide" for pro life...that out of the blue she became pregnant, discovered it was a DS baby....but because "life is sacred" and she COULD have but did not have an abortion....

    If she merely adopted a DS baby, well isn't that nice....BUT ....nothing nearly as sensational as "going through the tough decision not to abort, God testing her resolve and all that malarkey.

    It proved to the base of the GOP that she wasn't JUST "pro life" but a "Christian" too,,,adopting would have NEVER done that for her.....

    LOL...that's ..."so what"......

    The McCain family adopted ...TWO...orphans with mental and physical challenges....and the only ONLY time that that came up was when GW Bush accused McCain of having a black mistress and having these children out of wedlock....

    That's how the GOP roll.........it never pays to be honest OR loving.

    ReplyDelete
  56. lwtjb4:38 PM

    The only reason to have an amnio is to detect such possible problems and then terminate the pregnancy.
    A "pro-life" woman wouldn't bother to have the procedure, since it risks the life of the fetus, which can spontaneously abort.
    A "pro-lifer" doesn't choose to keep a baby -- there isn't a question of choice at all. And never a need to have an amnio.
    3:06

    These are false assumptions. For one, my Catholic boss' wife got pregnant in her mid-40s. She had amnio because of her age. Her husband was adamant that no matter what the results were, she would carry the baby to term and they would raise it. Whether that would have been her choice if left to her own devices, I don't know. In any case their child was unimpaired. He seems to have grown up to be a hellion but that's a different issue.

    Some people decide to do amnio to help prepare themselves for a possible Down Syndrome or otherwise impaired infant. Or decide to deliver anyway. This is not a black and white question.

    ReplyDelete
  57. Anonymous4:53 PM

    minimally $carah's a skank fraud

    ReplyDelete
  58. Anonymous4:53 PM

    Fred, when you say "the failure of the flight attendants to notice that she was pregnant" -- I don't think that's correct. The real quote was something like "the stage of SP's pregnancy was not apparent by observation." This weasel-wording, it was always obvious, was intended to bypass any statement by the airline that SP was or was not pregnant, and was or was not showing. I.e., the airline did not want to be involved in this issue.

    ReplyDelete
  59. Anon 2:18 - "who really cares about all this old stuff? suppose you think you prove sarah had to have adopted trig, instead of giving birth to him - so what?"
    ______________________________

    Are you serious, 2:18? Like if she adopted Trig it would be OK to LIE? Because that's what she did. Sarah "bore false witness" to the whole world. Pinocchio nose -- pants on fire -- the whole bit. And why did she lie? She lied for POLITICAL reasons -- to make herself look like something she wasn't. SANE.

    ReplyDelete
  60. Anonymous4:56 PM

    Gina, that wasn't my point.

    MY point was, bringing people into the equation that have nothing to do with the result looks bad. And it makes the truthers look heartless.

    Question: why are YOU personally so heartless?

    ReplyDelete
  61. Anonymous4:57 PM

    Joe M's character wasn't assassinated. He wrote a trashy book that contained outright lies. I don't fault him, as he had to believe his sources' to write the book. Decent people don't pay attention to trash.

    ReplyDelete
  62. Anonymous4:59 PM

    "psychopaths lie with a straight face"

    By this assertion, you just outed EVERY politician, even your precious Obama, as a psychopath.

    ReplyDelete
  63. N'yah5:00 PM

    Sunshine1970,

    I just wanted to say I'm really sorry for your sucky day :(

    But hey, since you're now going through major trauma and instability, maybe someone will show up on your doorstep with a plate of COOKIES and make it all better.

    In all seriousness, I will say a prayer for you and Mr. Sunshine.

    ReplyDelete
  64. Anonymous5:03 PM

    @Anon 4.18 and 4.19

    Take your filthy thoughts elsewhere. You are one sick bastard.

    ReplyDelete
  65. Anonymous5:07 PM

    To comment on this: My thoughts in caps

    Gryphen: If the book is still being written, I'd like to have your author write in more depth than in 'The Rogue' about Sarah's early life was like...
    NO ONE TO DATE HAS ACCURATELY PORTRAYED SARAHS EARLY LIFE. ONLY LIES HAVE BEEN TOLD.

    I understand the church attendence, but the living in a home where Chuck placed the TV in an unheated, gravelled edition to their home.. the wood burning stove upstairs that heated outside Sarah and the girls bedrooms. In Alaska.

    Was her Dad really an accredited teacher... or someone who taught part time.. how was it that Sarah grew up with such a dislike of teachers.
    SARAH WAS A GOOD STUDENT. I DONT THINK ITS SO MUCH THAT SHE DISLIKES THEM. SHE JUST RAILS AGAINST PEOPLE WHO AUTOMATICALLY TRY TO DISCREDIT ANYONE WHO FINDS HIGHER EDUCATION SOMETHING THEY'RE PERSONALLY NOT SUITED FOR. JUST BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DONT ATTEND COLLEGE DOESNT MEAN THEY SHOULD BE LOOKED DOWN UPON. CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW THE WORLD WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF BILL GATES AND STEVE JOBS WERE OSTRACIZED AND COULDN'T CREATE WHAT THEY CREATED?

    Examples of her lying..early lying.. maybe that is impossible to find.. THIS SEEMS MOOT, AS ALL POLITICIANS LIE.

    I guess I'm curious to know how she thought she could get away with lies.. was it because she always got away with lying. I THINK HAVING BRISTOL HAS A BACK UP HELPED HER GET AWAY WITH IT. IF SHE LETS BRISTOL CLEAR HER NAME, SARAH WOULD HAVE TO EXPLAIN HER ACTIONS. IT'S STRANGE HOW THERE'S NO ANIMOSITY THERE.

    Then surprise" Todd Palin as a high school student is able to purchase a truck for 12,000 cash.. just how amazing is that?? Does the fishing business provide that much ready cash for teenagers?
    IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR AK TEENS TO HAVE EXTRAVAGANT THINGS. TO US, IT'S WEIRD. IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD THERE.

    I think that Sarah Palin decided to do just about anything the Repubs asked her to do.. for $$$. So, if there is still time and some blank pages to fill.. that is one idea... life in Alaska for SP & her family & environs.. I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS.

    What about her sisters as supportive of her etc.
    HER FAMILY, THE PALINS AND THE HEATHS SUPPORT HER

    She has an overabundance of what I think of as a sense of entitlement... that it flies off into a superdimension somewhere :) I DON'T SEE HOW YOU ARRIVE AT THIS STATEMENT. THE PROTESTERS FEEL ENTITLED. PERPETUAL WELFARE RECIPIENTS FEEL ENTITLED. I THINK SARAH JUST ENJOYS INSPIRING PEOPLE. SHE LIKES SUPPORTING HER FAMILY. THEY STRUGGLED THEIR WHOLE LIVES. NOW THEY HAVE MONEY. THAT MUST FEEL GOOD. IT FEELS GOOD TO KNOW YOU INSPIRE PEOPLE.

    ReplyDelete
  66. Lydia5:17 PM

    I find it funny that people call Sarah entitled.

    Certainly state and federal govts are packed with people who were only given their jobs because of their personal connection to a legislator. about 10 years ago, I worked in for the city in NYC. The entitlement among kids of legislators who were handed their jobs once they graduated is enormous. These types of people literally won't even acknowledge people they deem lower class.

    It's these types that Sarah speaks out against. I'm aware she hired friends as well but that is not my point. Bringing up Sarah's hypocrisy on cronyism doesn't make other's less guilty of it. Sarah is a perfect scapegoat. She allows people to ignore problems in DC and fully focus just on her. This is dangerous thinking on our parts. In the grand scheme of things, Sarah is small potatoes. She holds no national power. Without her over the last 3 years, we'd still be where we're at, only I'd wager, Obama would have gotten away with more shitty deals that would have killed the economy. Looking to you stupid HEalth care bill.

    We've got to request ALL correspondence having to do with Health care reform. I am SURE it will be eye opening.

    If you want things changed, HOLD OBAMA ACCOUNTABLE for bad bills and decisions. He is part of the problem. No one of intelligence can deny that.

    ReplyDelete
  67. Anonymous5:17 PM

    Setnetters in Alaska when Todd was in High School could easily had made 40k in a summer and he had more than one site. So could he afford a truck-I think so

    ReplyDelete
  68. Anonymous5:17 PM

    Ya know Gryphen, it is time to come out and say exactly who is trying to stop the publication of this book.

    Is it the Palin Mafia, or is it someone(s) who should know better? We need to know who REALLY wants this info out to the public, and who doesn't.

    If you cannot bring yourself to say, then please stop alluding to it.

    ReplyDelete
  69. Anonymous5:18 PM

    DKey,

    I am about 80% sure that person is a regular posing as a troll.

    ReplyDelete
  70. Anonymous5:23 PM

    Gryph, you know anything about all the activity at the fortress? We drove by and it looks like the set of a bad dude movie, you expect a guy in overalls with three teeth to hop out from behind the fence and growl "yawl git off ma prop-tee!"

    There are trespassing signs everywhere, and even more fences and walls. It looks like they are REALLY trying to keep something out. Or IN.

    ReplyDelete
  71. Anonymous5:28 PM

    I too am a little bit skeptical of Fred's book getting much coverage.
    Just a few weeks ago Nicole Wallace was out trying to promote her latest book, that book had a character in it that she claimed was based on Sarah Palin, that character was mentally ill, let me repeat that, the character was MENTALLY ILL and there was barely a murmer from the MSM.
    A VP candidate was potentially mentally ill, ho hum.

    ReplyDelete
  72. Oh, God...someone woke up April from her pot induced haze so she could earn her keep from SarahPAC.

    Bristol and Sarah tell your troll to at least TRY to make herself sound different in each post. Don't you know we make fun of your dumb posts all the time with parodies.

    "Ahem" is brilliant and has April down.

    Give it up, Trolls, you convince no one here. Time for a new gig

    ReplyDelete
  73. Anonymous5:36 PM

    First of all Gryph, you need to delete Anon at 4:18 pm ASAP - it is homophobic and beyond offensive to you and your child. Please get rid of it!

    Second, I'm excited that Fred's book is close to release. One issue I have is in the section describing the bots refuting the Trig Truther version of events, under number two, it's not clear which "story" he is saying is false. The antecedent to the noun "story" isn't obvious. If that could be fixed, that section would read much better.

    I agree with others that there is a specific window of opportunity here to get the book out. Wait too long and it will be hard to engage anyone into the discussion, least of all the LSM. Thanks for keeping the light on this issue.
    ~physicsmom

    ReplyDelete
  74. Anonymous5:41 PM

    Anon 5:07

    You are either Sarah, or a relative of hers.
    Truth is, Sarah is undereducated. She knew nothing about the world or even American history, until she was told by McCain aids.
    I am willing to bet she cannot produce a legit college degree with her name on it. She is too lazy and trifling to have finished college.

    So your little commentary is just a pile of excuses.

    ReplyDelete
  75. Anonymous5:52 PM

    What about this? Is it mentioned in the book?

    "In fact, the 562 pages of her daily schedules—obtained by Mother Jones under Alaska's Open Records Act—indicate that Palin had few meetings at all with any foreign representatives and rarely dealt with any topic related to foreign policy"

    motherjones.com/mojo/2008/10/calendars-show-gov-palins-foreign-policy-experience-about-20-meetings-about-12-hours

    Later in the story it states:

    "It's possible that the calendars are not fully accurate reflections of what happened—perhaps some meetings ran longer (or shorter) than scheduled. And it's possible that in her off hours, Palin pored over Foreign Affairs, held unofficial chats with foreign officials, and sought out foreign policy experts. Also, there is a six-week gap in her calendars—from mid May through the end of June 2007—due to what her office calls a "computer failure."

    ReplyDelete
  76. Anonymous said...

    Gina, that wasn't my point.

    MY point was, bringing people into the equation that have nothing to do with the result looks bad. And it makes the truthers look heartless.

    Question: why are YOU personally so heartless?

    4:56 PM

    *Giving the hard stare to the troll @ 4:56pm...slowly removing my earrings and smearing some vaseline on my face...because IT'S ABOUT TO BE ON!!

    Listen up Bristol....Let me say this in some sort of English language that you can understand...STFU and take care of your damn babies! I am sick and tired of your broke down, new face wearing, big one day, smaller the next day Palin chicks! If you can't take the heat of the blogs...you ignorant, non educated, brat...then take your lumpy ass to school and get a damn education so you can understand what your crazy, bad wig wearing, possibly herpes lip infected, crusty ass toes of a mother has done to you...for her FUCKING POLITICAL CAREER!

    ReplyDelete
  77. I have to say, the trolls on this site are hi-larious!!!

    Seriously, though----I wouldn't care AT ALL about the age-old practice of mothers' adopting their teenager's baby. It's USING Trig for political gain, and her many statements demonizing pro-choice people---acting like anyone questioning 'the wild ride' is a crazy communist baby-killer.

    ReplyDelete
  78. Anonymous5:59 PM

    I thank God for this final chapter - it's long time coming and Gryphen has been exceptionally patient through all this. I knew he had reasons to keep silent all this time and it must have been hard to hold it in. I hope Fred gives Gryphen lots of credit for keeping the story relevant through IM and hope Gryphen is nationally honored if this finally gets the exposure it needs.

    This is great news!!!!!

    ReplyDelete
  79. Anonymous6:00 PM

    Don't you think the various people associated with the McCain campaign (including Schmidt et al), who despite their dislike of Palin, would use every weapon in their arsenal to prevent this book from being published? It just undermines their credibility for having done SUCH a poor job of vetting her, particularly with regards to the pregnancy. They probably never imagined having to ascertain the truth of it during the vetting, and having realized the truth or even just the inconsistencies in the story after choosing her, they have no choice but to hush it up now. Their livelihoods are at stake, because they would look like idiots if the truth came out. With such highly politically connected and powerful forces behind the attempt to kill this book, what hope is there of a) it being published and b) it being taken seriously by the media? :(

    ReplyDelete
  80. Anonymous6:01 PM

    Great read! Can't wait for the final book to be released.

    My only suggestion is: # 8 on the "refute" list about eyewitness testimony of reports, I really think it should be pointed out that this "eyewitness" testimony came nearly 3 years after-the-fact.

    A day late and a whole lotta dollars short if you will.

    ReplyDelete
  81. Anonymous6:17 PM

    I think Sarah was such a draw to anything MSM could publish about her BECAUSE everything she did was an antic. She is a curiosity. Soooo, they would be thrilled to have any big juicy story about her again to draw in readers. This will be just the ticket.

    ReplyDelete
  82. Oh boy ...where to start with the trolls...what, was ya'll on a break or lunch...because all of a sudden the place is crawling with you nasty buggers!

    @ 5:07pm...Um...you might...er...let me start all over again....what you just sharted(look it up) out must be some kind of stream of consciousness that only a true drug addict or alcoholic could appreciate...the all caps (shouting)...the grammatical and run on sentences...you have got to be the Crazy woman herself! Listen Sarah...can I call you Sarah? Put down the vodka, baileys, with the red bull twist and get thee to the nearest Rehab...as you may have heard...Amy Winehouse died of severe alcohol poisoning and as much as I dislike you...even I don't want you to go out that way....personally I prefer to see you wearing that fabulous orange jumpsuit that only you could pull off! So put down the bottles and get yourself some help....ASAP! There...see that wasn't hateful...*still giving the hard stare to the troll @ 4:56pm

    ReplyDelete
  83. Anonymous6:22 PM

    Sarah's lies aren't lies to cover up any private family matters. They were made to embellish her credentials. She used and referenced her baby, her precious gift from God often, to media, crowds, cameras, TV hosts, journalists, even wrote a book describing intimate details of her delivery. She chose to bring this subject, the subject of her premature Down Syndrome baby's birth to her and John McCain's political platform. No one forced her. She CHOSE to talk about it, and she CHOSE to talk about it for thousands and thousands of dollars. She gained monetarily by discussing Trig every chance she got. She sold photos of herself and Trig on covers of magazines. She profited monetarily by using him to make herself the sacrificial giver of life. She earned praise, national attention, opportunities for herself and her family. They all benefited because of Trig.

    So if Sarah lied about being the biological birth mother of Trig, she owes the world a huge apology. First, she should ask God forgiveness for lying to so many, to misrepresent herself and to exploit an innocent child, then she should ask the child when he's older for forgiveness, her children, family, devotees, donors, fans, supporters, those who worked tirelessly believing she had only noble intentions to serve her electorate.

    And finally she needs to forgive herself. Come clean and get help. For Trig's sake and others like him, I hope we never ever hear of such a phenomenon appearing out of nowhere because people are so gullible and stupid to place one woman on a pedestal like the Virgin Mary because she did not have an abortion. Many women with less ideal circumstances chose not to abort. Placing SP on a pedestal where her reward was to accumulate wealth beyond her wildest dreams is the ultimate betrayal of the innocent.

    ReplyDelete
  84. Anonymous6:28 PM

    @5:17 PM

    If you want things changed, HOLD OBAMA ACCOUNTABLE for bad bills and decisions. He is part of the problem. No one of intelligence can deny that.

    Here's the truth: our 23 year old can stay on our health policy. Several relatives with pre-existing conditions won't be turned down when they need health insurance. "No one of any intelligence can deny" that this is a good thing for families.

    ReplyDelete
  85. Palinbot6:30 PM

    Laughable effort. Defending argumentum verbosium? Really? Of course if you shut off your brain and step away and look at the "big picture" one could conclude that Palin faked her birth. But when you get down to the " little details" your whole conspiracy falls apart.

    I highly doubt a serious author does not release parts of an unfinished book to a fifth rate blog. Nobody will buy it. I mean "The Rogue" at best sold a few thousand copies, while "Going Rogue" sold a few million. Big difference. Honestly, I think you anti-Palin authors need to take a lesson or two from the principle character of your subject material.

    ReplyDelete
  86. Lydia said...

    I find it funny that people call Sarah entitled.

    Certainly state and federal govts are packed with people who were only given their jobs because of their personal connection to a legislator. about 10 years ago, I worked in for the city in NYC. The entitlement among kids of legislators who were handed their jobs once they graduated is enormous. These types of people literally won't even acknowledge people they deem lower class.

    It's these types that Sarah speaks out against. I'm aware she hired friends as well but that is not my point. Bringing up Sarah's hypocrisy on cronyism doesn't make other's less guilty of it. Sarah is a perfect scapegoat. She allows people to ignore problems in DC and fully focus just on her. This is dangerous thinking on our parts. In the grand scheme of things, Sarah is small potatoes. She holds no national power. Without her over the last 3 years, we'd still be where we're at, only I'd wager, Obama would have gotten away with more shitty deals that would have killed the economy. Looking to you stupid HEalth care bill.

    We've got to request ALL correspondence having to do with Health care reform. I am SURE it will be eye opening.

    If you want things changed, HOLD OBAMA ACCOUNTABLE for bad bills and decisions. He is part of the problem. No one of intelligence can deny that.

    5:17 PM

    Okay Lydia....can I call you Sarah? Where to even start with your bullshit...you almost had me until you got to the ALL CAPS (shouting) about PRESIDENT OBAMA YOU DIPSHIT...see I can do all caps too! And this statement..."No one of intelligence"...describes you so succinctly(look it up) that I have no further use in even speaking to you...begone Troll...you're stinking up the joint!

    ReplyDelete
  87. Anonymous6:36 PM

    4:28 PM

    You are wrong on this one. I had an amnio as what you do in terms of setting up a properly stimulating nursery is vital to a downs baby potential for growth. I wanted to be prepared and ready to go.
    That is actually the thing I have wondered about with SP, did she prep Trigg's environment and prepare everyone on how best to stimulate him so his potential for growth was at it's optimum best. I hate to say it, but don't think so.

    ----------

    Yes, that lack of preparation is also what should set of the alarm bells of thinking people.

    I remember a story of a friend's brother who found out before the birth of his first-born that the child would be afflicted with Down's syndrome. They were already nervous and almost-hesitant potential parents. When they found out that the child would have this affliction, they did not think they could handle it. But they found so much support (from some advocacy group?) that they elected to continue the pregnancy. They had huge support from this group (sorry, do not remember name) but I know that their mission was to totally prepare the parents about what to expect.

    It is now about 30 years later since that child (my friend's brothers) was born. It very hard to believe that Sarah could have had a Down's syndrome child and not have been advised to prepare and educate her family before the birth of that child. What a dummy.

    ReplyDelete
  88. Anonymoose6:42 PM

    is fred litbrit? writing style reminds me of her blog

    ReplyDelete
  89. We know that the story of who's the baby-daddy and who's the baby-momma is going to be crazy.

    Regardless of the players, we were lied to about the origin of Trig.

    The cover-up is more dastardly and interesting than the baby's origin! I believe it could have been attempted with very few people involved.

    Go Fred! ... can't wait to download your book on my laptop!

    ReplyDelete
  90. Anonymous6:45 PM

    What did John McCain know and when did he know it?

    Who continued to run Sarah Palin for vice president when it was abundantly clear that she was mentally unstable?

    Why was the media complicit in the attempt to place a psychopath one weary heartbeat from the Oval Office?

    Fred's book is just the start of path to the truth.

    ReplyDelete
  91. Anonymous6:48 PM

    4:57 said: "Joe M ... wrote a trashy book that contained outright lies." (and many truths?....)

    Which is why Sarah is going ahead with the lawsuit, right?

    G posted: ""I'm telling you a lie in a vicious effort that you will repeat my lie over and over until it becomes true" – Lady Gaga "

    See the converse of this is, tell a lie once but don't repeat it and it gets you out of a pickle and then no one remembers you said it or asks any more questions. Sort of like the big weddings Bristol and Track were going to have. You knew as Sarah was saying the words that she never intended any of it to happen. It was just an effort to look like a good Christian upbringing. Smoke and mirrors, it's all about creating an illusion.

    ReplyDelete
  92. Anonymous7:24 PM

    Anonymous said...

    "You are wrong on this one. I had an amnio as what you do in terms of setting up a properly stimulating nursery is vital to a downs baby potential for growth. I wanted to be prepared and ready to go."

    But why the amnio when there are others tests that can provide the same information and have less likelihood of causing miscarriage?

    ReplyDelete
  93. Anonymous7:36 PM

    Anonymous said... Is she out getting plastic surgery haven't seen her for a while 3:35 PM
    ****
    She needs a heart and brain transplant.

    Keep in mind that Joe McGuiness may have been bumped when Occupy Wall Street started up in the news. The media tried to ignore it, ridicule it, ask it to do the media's job for it, etc. Then the Tony Bologna white shirt "cop" maced some women, a few days ago, a cop "hit" an employed Marine from Iraq Veterans Against War, etc. This is NEWS. Granny Palin is a has been. Bristol is a has been. I'm not saying they don't need to be investigated and held accountable, and I'm hoping Granny ends up in an orange jump suit, but We Are the 99% is VERY important now.

    The Presidential election is very important now. The obstructionists in Congress is VERY important now. The implosion of the Euro and Greece, Italy, Spain, etc is important now. Thailand flooding until maybe Xmas is important now. The slowdown in China is important now.

    Dipshit Palin isn't important now. I still want her utterly exposed, but keep awareness of what is going on in the world. I agree about the launch window--books like this would have gotten more coverage if they hadn't delayed until after her prick tease of running/not running was going on.

    An MBA with years of Marketing, PR, and Strategy experience talking here.

    nswfm

    ReplyDelete
  94. mom2special child7:41 PM

    To Anon
    4:28 PM who wrote

    "You are wrong on this one. I had an amnio as what you do in terms of setting up a properly stimulating nursery is vital to a downs baby potential for growth. I wanted to be prepared and ready to go."
    ___

    I call BS on this!!!

    I am an ACTUAL mother of a special needs child. I know that the only realistic reason to do an amnio (as a pro-life mom) is to to be ready for the high-tech intensive medical/surgical intervention that mom and baby will probably need at, or before, delivery.

    There is nothing any parent can do to "stimulate" a disabled child's development right after delivery that will make any difference, or that is any different from what would be done with a normal newborn.

    Sarah actively avoided every high-risk nursery (there were more than 3 that could have helped Trig) on her wild ride.

    So she failed to carry out the one act (seeking high-risk medical intervention) that could have made a difference.

    Sarah is a liar and hypocrite, and so are you, if you think having a developmentally enhanced nursery justifies the risk to fetal life of an amnio.

    ReplyDelete
  95. Anonymous7:43 PM

    Two things:

    I don't think it was smart to mention sarahs "post partum" look. There are a lot of pictures of her looking hefty, heftier than her post partum picture with Piper

    2. I also don't think it was smart to mention Bristol, who has nothing to do with Trig. That detail makes trig truthers look like assholes to the general public.

    2:37 PM
    -----------
    Oh there you are! Hi Bristol! We were wondering when you'd show up. A little late this time. Were you busy changing diapers?

    ReplyDelete
  96. Palinbot said...

    Laughable effort. Defending argumentum verbosium? Really? Of course if you shut off your brain and step away and look at the "big picture" one could conclude that Palin faked her birth. But when you get down to the " little details" your whole conspiracy falls apart.

    I highly doubt a serious author does not release parts of an unfinished book to a fifth rate blog. Nobody will buy it. I mean "The Rogue" at best sold a few thousand copies, while "Going Rogue" sold a few million. Big difference. Honestly, I think you anti-Palin authors need to take a lesson or two from the principle character of your subject material.

    6:30 PM

    The best thing about your comment....is your name...at least your are honest...with your bad self! And as far as "Going Rogue" selling a few million....Um...sure...if you don't count the ones that the RNC, SarahPac and Koch brothers bought...then sure...yeah...she "sold a few million" *SNICKER.

    PS...um Mr/Ms Troll....heads up...if there is a red squiggly line under your BIG impressive word...either the word is miss-spelled or the word DOESN'T EXIST...guess which words I'm talking about!

    ReplyDelete
  97. O/T but not really...saw this comment over at the PeeZoo and had to share....

    56Survivor Moderator Today 09:20 PM
    I remember the morning after I heard Gov Palin speak at the GOP Convention when she accepted the VP nomination.

    My daughter called to excitedly ask me what I thought about Sarah. With tears in my eyes I whispered, "It is like I have known her my entire life."

    I still tear up when I think about it.


    Dear God, please convict Sarah to run.


    W T F! All I can see and agree with this statement is..."Dear God, please convict Sarah"...AMEN(I added in that part)and believe it or not...this genius has more than 25 likes on this comment!

    ReplyDelete
  98. @curiouser et al. I have given up trying to remind people that it was the stage of her pregnancy (8 mos? in labor? leaking amniotic fluid?) that wasn't apparent to flight attendants--not the fact that she was pregnant. I think even Joe got that one wrong.

    ReplyDelete
  99. Anonymous8:15 PM

    I can keep a secret, your secret is safe with me

    I love it and look fowrad to devouring every little detail.

    I don't know if the book is formatted this way, but I like the "bullet point" style of presenting the facts. It's easy to follow a complex and convoluted tale when presented this way.

    Gryphen, please let Fred know there's a lot of interest in this book. I applaud Fred's reasoning for the delay. What's the rush?

    It's like water torture, imagine the boost in brain meds. I hope there's a kindle verson released as well, but this is one book I'm most definately buying.

    Thanks Gryphen and Fred.

    PS Wow TWO palin posts after a period ignoring her. I'm sure she'll be pleased with the attention, in a sick joke kind of way) any attention is better than none.

    Will have to revisit the thread....I hope the last post "Troll Patrol" purged them of their vile, you never know in Sarah World.

    This and Gabby's new book are going on my gift list.

    ReplyDelete
  100. Anonymous8:16 PM

    @5:28 Yes, Sarah was mentally ill, and they were working their butts off to get her elected. They also claimed to have a plan to sideline Sarah because they knew how dangerous she was. What was really dangerous was that if anything happened to the 72 year old president with a history of recurring cancer.

    We have had other people who were not fit to service in office. Ronald Reagan was already showing signs of Alzheimers while in office. He fell asleep during cabinet meetings and summit talks. JFK suffered terrible back pain, and we do not know how his pain killers affected him.

    Woodrow Wilson suffered a stroke while he was president. It was kept from the public and other politicians, even though he was really unable to serve.

    Franklin Roosevelt was confined to a wheelchair while in office, but he was never photographed that way. The media has been very good at manipulating images, instead of telling and showing the truth.

    ReplyDelete
  101. Anonymous8:20 PM

    Anon @ 6:22, agree with your points as the whole thing did enhance her right to life cred, etc -

    But, I feel sure she faked the pregnancy to cover up something in her family, and hopefully we can uncover that. I think she realized later, when Dobson pointed out the acclaim she would receive for keeping a child with disabilities, that it would be to her political advantage among her fanatical constituency in the sense you describe. Initially, however, I think she was flying by the seat of her pants and just trying desperately to do damage control.

    Her national political career, not quite in its beginnings, could not sustain the revelation of a pregnant teenage daughter or some sort of love child through her husband - just two possibilities. I personally agree with many who think Bristol was the pregnant one at that point. (I think Bristol is probably Trig's birth mother, I mean.)

    The only reason Sarah went public with the later Bristol pregnancy was because she had gotten the VP nod and was headed to the GOP convention. She basically had no choice at that point, or they would have had to hide Bristol in a cave indefinitely. We now suspect they fudged the dates on how far along Bristol was in order to "prove" she could not have had the earlier child, also.

    This was all likely a cover up to hide a serially pregnant teenage daughter, something NO politician in this country could ever, ever survive. One pregnancy like that in the family, maybe - but two or more? No way.

    ReplyDelete
  102. Anonymous8:26 PM

    Sarah Palin was a highly visible state governor too stupid to display a normally expanding baby bump. Palin was too stupid to realize her version of the Texas to Alaska flight before Trig's appearance brands her as criminally neglectful.

    Palin is STUPID.

    Someone is keeping this stupid woman in American politics. Who? Why? How? Fred's book is just the beginning.

    ReplyDelete
  103. Anonymous8:31 PM

    I hate to admit it Gryphen but the Palinbot trolls you attract are damn entertaining. Logic, reason, or even a minimal connection to reality doesn't exist in their universe. Sarah can spit in their faces and they think they are being sprinkled with holy water. They just sit there hoping for more.

    ReplyDelete
  104. Anonymous8:51 PM

    @5:07 Sarah was such a good student that no one remembers her from the University of Idaho, the fifth college she went to after bouncing from here to there.

    Sarah has no respect for teachers or education, and I doubt that she did all that well in school. We know that she got a D in economics. I am willing to bet that Sarah has always had a learning disability. She is unable to learn simple facts. The evidence is clear. She heard a lecture about Paul Revere, and minutes later, she couldn't remember any of the details of the Midnight Ride of Paul Revere, something that most of us learned in grade school.

    A quote from that comment:
    SARAH JUST ENJOYS INSPIRING PEOPLE. SHE LIKES SUPPORTING HER FAMILY. THEY STRUGGLED THEIR WHOLE LIVES. NOW THEY HAVE MONEY. THAT MUST FEEL GOOD. IT FEELS GOOD TO KNOW YOU INSPIRE PEOPLE.
    Yes, Sarah is really inspirational. She was elected to serve in public office, and she quit to cash in and make money. That is not inspiring; it is greedy and selfish. I have not seen any evidence of Sarah donating time or money to charity. At the very least, she should be supporting Down syndrome organizations.

    ReplyDelete
  105. (ahem)9:15 PM

    (ahem)

    It's got to feel really good having money when they didn't have any before, when they were stuck with a vacation cabin and no money to pay taxes on it, and Todd couldn't afford a happy ending every time,, and each kid had only one snow machine, and they couldn't afford permanent eye liner for Sarah (only permanent lip liner, but Todd figured out how to get tribal health services to take care of that...something about pigs and lipstick and Sarah's earning potential), and they couldn't even afford to send any of their kids to college (and now it's too late because they have babies of their own--sunrise, sunset, swiftly flows the year and a half or so).

    It must feel really good to know you've inspired people...people like Shawn Christy, and Joe Miller, and that old guy who chased down a dad and young daughter who had an Obama sticker on their Subaru, and Jared Lee Lautner who was inspired to exercise his god-given right to carry a bunch of guns, and Jeremy Morlock, who asked Sarah for help but was inspired by Sarah's disregard to stay overseas and serve his country in a way that would make Sarah proud to call him a close family friend.

    God bless you Sarah for making a ton of cash and acting as a role model and inspiration for Americans like these. You truly are Ronal Reagan in a pushup bra, wig, and high-heeled boots.

    ReplyDelete
  106. ThanksABunchJohn9:28 PM

    "Fred" left out one MAJOR key to the opposition: JournOList black-out. They should all be contacted, all be called out. Without Palin's "Death Panel" Facebook post, there might have been a single payer option. Without the same "lie of the year", the tea party probably wouldn't have grown the grass roots to their astroturf operation, and Wisconsin might not have happened, or the downgrade, or all of the other disastrous ALEC and Koch-inspired consequences.

    These supposedly "progressive" bloggers need to take responsibility and finally put the the stake in the heart of our American Horror.

    ReplyDelete
  107. Anonymous9:29 PM

    Franklin Roosevelt was confined to a wheelchair while in office, but he was never photographed that way. The media has been very good at manipulating images, instead of telling and showing the truth.

    8:16 PM

    ======================
    While the rest of our post is OK, in other words, valid reasons for questioning a President's health, this last is not. FDR had polio or Guillain-Barre, which resulted in waist down paralysis.

    At the time, it was thought polio, and it did not seem to progress like GBS. I don't know about you, but I see no reason why anyone should be barred from office due to such a physical disability. Modern day leaders aren't required to lead cavalry charges, and it's silly to pretend otherwise. As long as their physical health is stable, no problem. I'm much more concerned about mental health and/or the many illnesses like heart disease and cancer - on both those counts, McCain/Plain were losers, as is "Herb" Cain.

    ReplyDelete
  108. ThanksABunchJohn said..

    "Fred" left out one MAJOR key to the opposition: JournOList black-out. They should all be contacted, all be called out. Without Palin's "Death Panel" Facebook post, there might have been a single payer option. Without the same "lie of the year", the tea party probably wouldn't have grown the grass roots to their astroturf operation, and Wisconsin might not have happened, or the downgrade, or all of the other disastrous ALEC and Koch-inspired consequences.

    These supposedly "progressive" bloggers need to take responsibility and finally put the the stake in the heart of our American Horror.

    No ThanksABunchJohn, Fred does NOT give the Journolist cowards a pass. In fact he takes them on directly in another chapter.

    This chapter was just a taste, and in NO way is indicative of how deeply Fred delves into this story. Including ALL those who helped Palin pull off her hoax.

    ReplyDelete
  109. Anonymous9:54 PM

    So she failed to carry out the one act (seeking high-risk medical intervention) that could have made a difference.

    Sarah is a liar and hypocrite, and so are you, if you think having a developmentally enhanced nursery justifies the risk to fetal life of an amnio.
    ---------------------
    it's me from the post about the nursery..... 24 years ago my doctor advised the amnio.... I was so thrilled to be having a baby at my age, there would have been no way I would have gone through amnio if there were a high risk of losing my child no matter what the results were. Also I was told the baby's HOME nursery would be vital in how it would be setup. Usually you think of soft pastel colors, I was advised at the time the home nursery should haven more vibrant colors to stimulate the child... Wether this information has since been proven incorrect, it still doesn,t explain the level of your vicious attack on my personal experiene.... And to paint me as being the same kind of person like sp..... You are one self righteous bitch... I was merely informing the poster that not all mothers getting an amnio were doing it with planning an abortion in mind if ,the results came back positive.. There are other reasons to know before the actual birth.

    ReplyDelete
  110. Anonymous10:40 PM

    "No ThanksABunchJohn, Fred does NOT give the Journolist cowards a pass. In fact he takes them on directly in another chapter."

    Thanks for posting that TABJ and Gryph. I was hoping Journolist would be called out for the piss poor job they've done.

    And, thank you to Anon 8:16 PM for your support of FDR. I was going to post something similar but you did it for me.

    ReplyDelete
  111. ThanksABunchJohn10:49 PM

    Gryphen, thanks for the response, and thank God "Fred" takes them on, but I'm terrified that the same powers-that-be will be instrumental in the continuing cover-up of their own journalistic failures and lack of coverage. God Damn. (her)

    ReplyDelete
  112. Anonymous10:51 PM

    "No ThanksABunchJohn, Fred does NOT give the Journolist cowards a pass. In fact he takes them on directly in another chapter."

    Thanks for posting that TABJ and Gryph. I was hoping Journolist would be called out for the piss poor job they've done.

    And, thank you to Anon 8:16 PM for your support of FDR. I was going to post something similar but you did it for me.

    ReplyDelete
  113. Anonymous2:04 AM

    @9:29 pm, the post you are referring to is not implying Roosevelt wasn't fit to be President, it is referring to how the media rarely was able to take a picture of Roosevelt in a wheelchair as the administration didn't want to imply the President was "weak" or not capable to hold office. He was perfectly fit to hold office, but it was the times then, having a disability was viewed differently by some folks back in those days. And because of that, it is a prime example of how the administration took great pains not to provide opportunities for the media to take photos of him in a wheelchair. And the media knew it was simply taboo anyway.

    The poster was simply giving an example, not implying Roosevelt was not fit to serve because he had a physical disability.

    ReplyDelete
  114. Anonymous3:10 AM

    A couple of posters mention the early knowledge of Down's and support for the family in preparation for the birth.

    Unless things work very differently in Alaska, then why would a sitting governor not have had the best support (both medical and information/advice) possible? I had a high risk pregnancy and was immediately referred to a specialist perinatal doctor for the whole of my pregnancy. If something is known (which was being monitored), you are not just turned out into the street to fend for yourself. Loads of resources are offered to you and you are encouraged to take them up. If such advice/support was available to Sarah, why would she not use it? That is as damning as anything. Are we meant to believe that she thought she knew all there was to know about how to support a Down's baby? (like she knew everything about foreign policy lol). Sorry, not buying it. It is a huge hole in the story and one that should have more attention paid to it.

    ReplyDelete
  115. comeonpeople4:10 AM

    @curioser 3:49.
    Alaska airlines is screwed on this: if the stage wasn't apparent, (and if they try and stay labor stage) then that still allows that she possibly looked hugely gusty pregnant. If she looked huge gusty pregnant, why was she allowed on the flight? Did she have a doctors note or did the dog eat it? If she was not wearing the gusty belly on the flight she thus did not look pregnant, well then that's huge. You have flgiht attendants who know she wasn't gusty pregnant and who can't/won't speak and you have the public who has seen the big belly gusty photo and who should be freaking out that flight attendants aren't noticing hugely pregnant women. What the hell else aren't they noticing, hmm? Take it from the safety angle.
    If we could reopen this can of worms it would help.

    ReplyDelete
  116. Anonymous5:01 AM

    To Sunshine1970~

    You wrote;
    "You guys just brightened up my totally shitty week (husband loses job at end of year, and me, I have a year left then I'm booted--and all found out within the span of two days)"

    I am so sorry this has happened to you and Hubby. The very same thing happened to me & spouse in late 2008. Spouse had had a part time night job, but it still was not enough to pay the rent.
    I hope that you're able to find jobs asap. Being the Holiday Season, maybe you could do some retail work. Sometimes, if they like the way you work, they'll hire you on after the season is over. They don't pay much in retail, but it would be better than nothing. Maybe unemployment might even pay better than retail work.
    I hope you have people around to help/support you until you land on your feet again!!
    Good Luck, Sweetie!

    mary b

    ReplyDelete
  117. Oh yeah baby. Only idiots think she had trig...she caters to idiots. I do believe something very serious happened or is going to happen to make her drop out faster than light. And not announcing '16 as a possibility? Come on now. c4p will be done just like the rest of them.

    One small thing, I was under the impression that trig was born at mat-su hospital. No? But hey what do I know...I'm going on hearsay.

    ReplyDelete
  118. " Anonymous said...
    who really cares about all this old stuff? suppose you think you prove sarah had to have adopted trig, instead of giving birth to him - so what?

    2:18 PM"

    My gawd man! How stupid are you?

    you are on the side of beyond ignorance. It's a wonder you know how to breathe.

    ReplyDelete
  119. Anonymous5:29 AM

    It's getting to be kind of fun to see how few words I have to read in a comment before exclaiming "troll" and skipping to the next comment.

    Troll quality is deteriorating. SarahPAC must pay peanuts.

    ReplyDelete
  120. Kimosabe5:36 AM

    Ahem,

    You hit it out of the park with your post. You rock!

    ReplyDelete
  121. Anonymous5:45 AM

    I say Kudos to everyone who's worked on revealing the truth about the Palins and getting them off their media attention train, you did it!! About a year ago this time and every other day there was something on TV about the Palins and I wanted to scream because I couldn't stand that they were receiving so much attention for being NOBODIES! A useless ex-gov and her grifting family thought they were the stars of the world, and I for one, couldn't wait until this day would come! Awesome job!!

    ReplyDelete
  122. Anonymous5:50 AM

    Amnio's are done for many different reasons.
    All of the comments arguing about it just don't understand.
    An amnio depends on the health of the mother/baby, and other circumstances and Doctor's do not do them unless necessary. I had one with my 3rd child, because I was still having light menstrual cycles by my 5th month of pregnancy. They did the amnio to make sure I was NOT leaking any fluid.
    If $arah had really thought she was leaking fluid, no Doctor in the World would have let her go anywhere except to the closest ER. That is just a blatant FACT.

    mary b

    ReplyDelete
  123. GinaM said...
    "...Dear God, please convict Sarah to run."

    W T F! All I can see and agree with this statement is..."Dear God, please convict Sarah"...AMEN(I added in that part)and believe it or not...this genius has more than 25 likes on this comment!
    7:49 PM
    ----------------------------
    Hi GinaM,
    I have evangelical friends who use the word "convict" in a specific religious/biblical way, similar to "convince" but much stronger. Ex. "I was convicted by the Holy Spirit to follow the Lord."

    So it is not surprising that his comment got so many likes, as he was essentially praying that God would "convince" Sarah to run.

    By saying "convict" though, he was putting a decision to run in spiritual terms and suggesting that God would be the cause of and supportive of an eventual decision by her to run. (And if God wants her to run, he must want her to win, right? Which justifies anything done to ensure her victory, right? Brrr...)

    ReplyDelete
  124. $arah probably wouldn't bring her big fake 'gusty belly' to Texas, because the flight attendants would have never let her fly there in the first place.

    I can't get over the fact that her 'wild ride' story involves TWO very long flights, and $he thinks it's just fine (if her story were true) that $he endangered BOTH FLIGHTS.
    TOTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE---and $he wears it like a badge of honor.

    ReplyDelete
  125. Anonymous6:59 AM

    For those of you who are confused--faking a pregnancy to hoodwink the entire country is 'not ok' when running for the vice presidency.
    For any reason.

    Sarah Palin's deception must be exposed and she must be held accountable so we are never again inflicted with such an egregious and blatant misuse of the public trust.

    THE PUBLIC TRUST.

    ~Canuck~

    ReplyDelete
  126. One singular point must give even Palinbots pause: If SP's facts are true, the whole matter could be cleared up so easily with a birth certificate, an interview (with SP's permission) with the doctor who delivered Trig.

    The fact is, the doctor essentially disappeared, and the birth certificate is ne'er to be seen.

    ReplyDelete
  127. Nefer...thank you for your explanation....I kinda of figured "convict" was some kind of coded bible word...it still doesn't change the fact that those kooks at the Peezoo are certifiable...just like their Queen!

    ReplyDelete
  128. emrysa8:37 AM

    looking forward to the book!

    one thing gives me a good laff: when the quitter was planning and living thru her fake pregnancy, I bet she never even considered that 3.5 years later, someone would be writing a book about it. I bet she thought it would all be gone and forgotten years ago. but now, every detail of her fake pregnancy fraud is all going to be documented in a book available to everyone. hahaha quitter your shit will always haunt you! you can't escape it! hahahaaa

    ReplyDelete
  129. Anonymous9:26 AM

    Dr CBJ,

    I believe that you originally were tricked into helping SP with this hoax, but for what are you still risking your entire professional life? I come from a family of physicians, and having good judgment is of paramount importance to one's reputation. How are you going to defend SP's claim that it was fine for her to fly with leaking amniotic fluid? That you were on board for delivering a high risk premie at a hospital not even certified for such a birth? How is this a good example for any doctor, or any pregnant woman?
    With Fred's book coming out, the scrutiny is only going to get much more focused on you. I empathize with your situation, but at a certain point you need to protect yourself and stand up for truth. Physicians are often put in tough positions, but with the hoax about to become mainstream, you have an opportunity to make this right

    ReplyDelete
  130. mom2special child10:07 AM

    to Anon 5:54 who wrote:

    "there would have been no way I would have gone through amnio if there were a high risk of losing my child no matter what the results were. Also I was told the baby's HOME nursery would be vital in how it would be setup. Usually you think of soft pastel colors, I was advised at the time the home nursery should haven more vibrant colors to stimulate the child... "

    _____

    You were SERIOUSLY misinformed, on several issues.

    The risk of losing the baby via amnio (vs. any possible good a "stimulating" nursery might do) is high.

    Most parents are told to AVOID overstimulating a neurologically compromised baby! It overloads their ability to process stimuli and leads to hyperactive behavior -- to the sort of "orneriness" which Sarah tells us now prevents her from taking Trig with her on publicity tours. (i.e., she can't drug him and carry him around easily).

    Even if the "stimulating nursery" advice were given to you and accepted by you in good faith, why couldn't a few bright posters and toys have provided this stimulation?

    And you say you would risk losing a baby to paint the nursery walls a "vibrant"color?
    Your argument makes no sense.

    ReplyDelete
  131. "I have given up trying to remind people that it was the stage of her pregnancy (8 mos? in labor? leaking amniotic fluid?) that wasn't apparent to flight attendants--not the fact that she was pregnant. I think even Joe got that one wrong."

    The thing is, I can remember hearing a flight attendant saying, "She wasn't pregnant," and then later that night, Alaska Airlines released the statement that "her stage of pregnancy was not apparent." That was way back when the story first blipped in the news, in 2008, right after she was announced as the nominee. I've never since been able to find that original statement of "she wasn't pregnant" but that doesn't mean I didn't hear it- it just means it got wiped like so many pictures of her did. I barely noticed at the time, because I wasn't paying a lot of attention to election news. I'm probably one of the few people in the US who did not watch either convention. I already knew I wasn't going to vote repugnant, so I didn't bother. But I did read Kos, I read the original statement about Bristol being pregnant before it was disappeared too, I heard the Wild Ride story and immediately knew she was nuts- you don't have to think very deeply about that story to know that the woman who came up with it was a lying liar who lies.

    ReplyDelete
  132. Anonymous11:54 AM

    Can't figure out what your definitions of "proof" and "evidence" might be.

    Also, this will NEVER be discussed in any mainstream outlets unless Palin herself is compelled to confess. She's the media star. If it doesn't come from her no one will ever care.

    ReplyDelete
  133. “8. Eyewitness testimony from several reporters who state she appeared pregnant during the correct timeframe.”

    The above statement “eyewitness testimony from several reporters” is very misleading – Wesley Loy is the only reporter who had an epiphany in April 2011 by restored memory of an event 3 years earlier when he suddenly remembered that he saw her cloth-covered pregnant belly in March 2008.
    http://www.salon.com/2011/04/22/trig_palin_wesley_loy/singleton/

    The other “reporter”, ADN’s Julia O’Malley, only referenced an anonymous person who said they saw Sarah at the gym looking pregnant. O’Mally also referenced Sarah’s puffy fingers, which were NEVER puffy, they looked the same boney claws she always has. The picture of Sarah hugging Lisa Murkowski with her scrawny hands blows the “puffy fingers” excuse right out the window!

    Finally, the Andrea Gusty interview of April 13, 2008 showed an enormous pregnant looking belly which highly contradicted all of Sarah’s accounts that she had “tight abs” and never got very big with this “pregnancy”.

    Please correct me if I am wrong, but that is not even a handful of reporters.

    I can hardly wait for Fred's book!

    ReplyDelete
  134. B - "I think even Joe got that one wrong."

    The interpretation that Palin didn't appear pregnant may well be correct. I tend to be cautious, though, and can't help myself from bringing it up...I guess I gain a sense of assurance that Fred has considered all angles. I also think we may find he covers the airline statement in more detail elsewhere in the book.

    comeonpeople "Alaska airlines is screwed on this: if the stage wasn't apparent, (and if they try and stay labor stage) then that still allows that she possibly looked hugely gusty pregnant."

    Alaska Airlines has no policy for pregnant travelers--no cutoff date or physician note requirement--so I don't see an issue for them unless it was apparent that she was in labor. I don''t know if another airlines was involved on the Dallas to Seattle leg and how that would fit in. Palin may have unwittingly helped them out...and provided a key to interpreting the statement...with an interview reported by the WSJ:

    ""Maybe they shouldn't have let me fly, but I wasn't showing much so they didn't know," she [Palin] says."

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122002615833483595.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

    ReplyDelete
  135. FEDUP!!!12:47 PM

    I am wondering if 'Fred' will address the TRIPP license plate ordered by Toad in March '08, well BEFORE Tripp was supposedly born (late December '08)....

    ReplyDelete
  136. This comment has been removed by the author.

    ReplyDelete
  137. Anonymous1:23 PM

    @11:54 AM

    Hello Scarah! You just keep telling yourself that... TICK TOCK TICK TOCK!

    ReplyDelete
  138. 5:55 PM

    HAHAHAHA

    From the sidelines: Doing the "All Beep Beep" cheer.

    ROTF

    ReplyDelete
  139. Anonymous6:41 PM

    This may seem like a non-issue, but I am not a big girl either....and i stay in great shape and I was 34 at the time this happened..
    But I was ok'ed to fly at 8 months pregnant. I was on my 3rd kid and I carried him 'in the back'..meaning my tummy was a ball, but not protruding..
    But you could really tell I was pregnant...
    And guess what???
    I had to get AN EXTENDER for my seatbelt on the plane because the regular one wouldn't work well without gouging into my stomach...
    Guess sarah didn't have to ask the attendant for one of those either...
    Also, since we know sarah drinks on plane rides thanks to that pic...wonder if she ordered anything...???
    Its hard to get stuff past flight attendants, they are highly trained especially since 9/11 to notice even slight issues.
    I find it unbelievable that Sarah was ever pregnant, but even more convinced since she didn't alert the flight attendants one bit.

    ReplyDelete
  140. Anonymous6:52 PM

    Interesting comment..
    I always wondered about the 'wild ride' and how she got on that plane without anyone noticing she was pregnant..blah blah blah..

    But what about the plane ride TO TEXAS??
    So, does SARAH really think that 2 sets of flight attendants, (more if she changed flights, etc.) NEVER noticed the GOVERNOR of ALASKA as pregnant??????

    This is a post 9/11 world..flight attendants can spot a bomb in a damn shoe!!!!!

    You don't think that pregnant women were a possible threat??? (fake belly bombs)
    I think not!!!!!

    I am even more sure that Sarah is a filthy liar.

    ReplyDelete
  141. Anonymous6:57 PM

    Gryph...

    What would be interesting to see would be celebrity face pictures during pregnancy. Take for instance Nicole Kidman, or Angelina Jolie. Get pictures of just their faces at different terms of their pregnancy...
    The faces get fuller, noses get bigger..it happens to pregnant women.
    Neck thickens, and honestly the face just get chubbier! And these are very fit women!
    So, take a look at Sarah's face pictures during "pregnancy" with Trig..
    HER FACE DIDN'T CHANGE A BIT!!!! Even in that pregnancy pic where she was pregnant with Track, her face is so puffy!!!! Side by side pics of pregnant faces would be fun to see.
    I guess since Sarah's face didn't change one bit, we are to assume her face is just as 'in shape' as her rock hard abs...
    And if you believe that..I have a bridge I'd like to sell you...

    ReplyDelete
  142. 7. "Palin has given details about the diagnosis of Trig Palin's Down Syndrome that appear to be a fabrication, and do not match standard diagnostic guidelines."

    I wonder if Fred considered additional problematic information from Bristol's book:

    CBJ showed the Palins the simian line in Trig’s palm as a characteristic of DS. Note: There's a photo of Trig showing he does NOT have a simian line.

    http://www.lauranovakauthor.com/1/post/2011/08/the-ghostwriter-a-guest-post-by-viola-alex.html

    ReplyDelete

Don't feed the trolls!
It just goes directly to their thighs.