Sunday, November 13, 2011

Apparently Mrs. Herman Cain has not suffered enough humiliation.

Courtesy of The New York Times:


At long last, the political spouse who has kept the lowest profile of the campaign season is preparing to make a network debut. Mrs. Cain, who has been married to the former restaurant executive Herman Cain for 43 years, is expected to sit down this weekend with Greta Van Susteren of Fox News, for a segment that could air on Monday, according to a source familiar with the planning. 

Mrs. Cain has, to date, not appeared on the campaign trail with her husband, and is said to prefer her home life in Atlanta, far away from the national spotlight. But since allegations of sexual harassment began to engulf the Cain campaign almost two weeks ago, it had been rumored that Mrs. Cain would eventually come to her husband’s defense on television. 

Mr. Cain has been talking about his wife and family more of late, perhaps to offer a counterpoint to the multiple women who have come forward to accuse him of inappropriate behavior while he was chief of the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s.

Personally I think this is a terrible idea, and truly unfair to Mrs. Cain.

I can only imagine what all of this attention to her husband's less than ethical behavior toward women has done to her self esteem, and being trotted out on national television to provide damage control is the final indignity.

Besides ultimately it will do absolutely no good. Nobody EVER believes their loved one capable of horrible behaviors.

How many times have we seen the mother's of murders or rapists in abject denial of their child's guilt?  Has that ever stopped a criminal case from moving forward?  No, it has not.

And this sideshow will not stop the investigation into Cain's unethical behaviors from progressing either. Only now we have the added "entertainment" of watching Gloria Etchison Cain struggle with her emotions in front of millions of viewers as well.

If Herman Cain were a REAL man, he would end his candidacy and spare his wife and family any further shame and humiliation.

33 comments:

  1. You hit that nail right on the head, Gryphen. Here is a woman who, for reasons of her own, chooses not to participate in her husband's campaign, being forced to provide a character reference. Actually, the whole situation should raise red flags. First, let's say that Cain actually managed to win the nomination and the White House (I know, I know...humor me). An important part of the presidency is presiding at state functions. If Mrs. Cain is averse to the public eye, would Herman Cain preside alone, or would he have a designated hostess? If so, would that not endlessly give rise to rumors?

    Which brings up another point--being the President is the sort of thing that inevitably affects the life of the entire family. To say that Herman Cain could be president while his wife remained a private citizen in Atlanta is simply unrealistic. This very private woman is going to be traveling with an entourage, and she's going to be guarded by Secret Service, at the bare minimum. I have to wonder what kind of man runs for president, knowing that his wife, whose life is going to be turned upside down by this, is so very averse to the idea of public life. The very least he could have done was divorce her before he ran (of course, a good and loving spouse would take his wife's feelings and needs into account before going public, but that's a beef for another day.)

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  2. Anonymous3:37 AM

    It would be interesting, however, if she's in on the giant PUNK being pulled on most everyone, of this pretend candidacy.

    Maybe she'll play "Sapphire" to Cain's "Calhoun" role, from Amos & Andy...and boss him around mercilessly.

    (For those not old enough to recall that marvelous 50's TV show, I'll bet you can catch an episode or two on YouTube!)

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  3. Beldar Fustian Conehead3:42 AM

    Gryphen, you wanna know what's wrong with libtards like you, cuz I'll tell you what's wrong? What separates you and your little blog friends from real common-sense conservative Americans like the beloved former faux-politician Screechy Wretch(tm) and her handi-capable successors like Herb Cain and Rich Perry comes down to one simple phrase: "accentuate the positive". You don't understand? I'm not surprised...

    Take Herb Cain, for example. You're SO quick to slam him for being accused of sexually assaulting fewer than a dozen women. (A LOT fewer!) While you engage in character assassination over Cain's youthful indiscretions you never mention the TENS of millions of women that have NOT accused Cain of sexual harassment and assault. You don't "ACCENTUATE THE POSITIVE!"

    Take Texas governor Rich Perry. Youre always making snide remarks implying that Governor Perry is not intelligent. But you show me another "stupid" man who dresses as well or smiles as gaily as he does? No one? I didnt think so. Yet, over and over and over and over, you drag out the same tired jokes after each predictable gaffe Perry makes. And now that Perry miraculously managed to get through a debate without a humiliating mistake, did you apologize or send him a campaign contribution? NO! Why not? Because you dont "ACCENTUATE THE POSITIVE!"

    When the Screechy Wretch(tm) was pretending to be still thinking about running for president you couldn't wait to mock every stoopid bit of word salad gibberish that tumbled out of her snarling yap. And now that nothing she says has the slightest relevance to anyone, anywhere do you EVER think to write a nice post thanking her for sitting down and shutting the fuck up? EVER? No... Are you starting to see my point here? You never "ACCENTUATE THE POSITIVE!"

    My final thought is this: you're always whining about the poor, the uninsured, the unemployed, the dispossessed, the young, the old, blah, blah, blah... HELP THIS ONE!! HELP THAT ONE!!! You go on and on and on about compassion and human decency. Frankly, I'm sick of it. Especially because there's always one group that just NEVER seems to get the Gryphen love. (if that's even your REAL name, which I'm starting to doubt...)

    Do you ever ask "Who protects the wealthy"? Who stands up for the millionaires and billionaires? Who protects the hedge-fund owners and the successful industrialists who've enriched themselves by outsourcing American jobs and destroying the middle class?

    No, you don't ask. Because you don't care. You dont care about how the wealthy feed their families or how they pay their mortgages. Or where the wealthy can find health care. Do even know what a tune-up costs on a C-class Mercedes? No... I didnt think so.

    YOUR brand of compassion goes just so far and then stops cold. Typical liberal.....

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  4. Fox = Anything to increase (titillate) ratings. Who out there isn't tempted to watch that rag of a show to see how Mrs. Cain is grilled?

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  5. angela3:54 AM

    I never would have believed that she would do this.
    What is she going to say--Herman would never sexually harass women? Of course she will.

    There must have been MUCH pressure put on her. Herman is simply astro-turf and is looking to sell books and speak; so I guess she has to up his speaking revenue by standing by her man.

    Mrs. Cain is a democrat too. Run Gloria, run!

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  6. Anonymous3:55 AM

    And you just know it's going to be a circus act when the ringleaders at fox have a clown performing the 'interview'.

    Can't help but wonder how Sarah feels about her bff Greta consoling someone other than her these days :)

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  7. Anonymous3:59 AM

    I want to know why all Cains accusers have ties to Chicago and why that one has DIRECT ties to Axelrod.

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  8. Anonymous4:15 AM

    Here is a Sarah Perry political cartoon - Sarah is notvportayed as glamorous at all!

    http://danzigercartoons.com/

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  9. Anonymous5:17 AM

    Having worked with the Palin Administration for a year already, I had my opinion firmly made on the aptitude of our State's inexplicable 'Chief Executive' - but the morning I read the Anchorage Daily News headline that Sarah Palin didn't blink in accepting John McCain's invitation to join him on the 2008 Republican ticket, I wrote in the comments section that I didn't think she knew just what exactly she was getting in to.

    She thought it was going to be a love letter in the papers about her and her over-the-top Frontier Woman and moose eating family narrative. It was, until the night after her roll-out at the RNC.

    The morning-after regrets were best summed up in a candid caught-on-tape exchange between conservatives.

    "Wall Street Journal columnist and former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan and former John McCain adviser, Time columnist, and MSNBC contributor Mike Murphy were caught on tape disparaging John McCain's selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his Vice Presidential running mate.

    "It's over," Noonan said.

    When Chuck Todd asked her if this was the most qualified woman the Republicans could nominate, Noonan responded, "The most qualified? No. I think they went for this, excuse me, political bullshit about narratives. Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and that's not what they're good at, they blow it."

    Murphy characterized the choices as "cynical" and "gimmicky.""

    Ever since, the microscope has sharpened on gimmicky candidates, giving them a credibility far beyond a "The Rent is Too Damn High" Party statures. . .

    Perennial Candidates who are un-hireable in the real world have discovered a lucrative gig in the conservative personality market, realizing that campaigns are unmatched in exploitability for living expenses and a lifestyle of access without accountability.

    Christine O'Donnell, Sharon Angle, even The Donald character took the low bar and went running with it in their trumped up 'run for office' for attention.

    Herb Cain is a continued symptom of this farcical vein of attention-getting to sell books, pimp themselves for news commentary guest spots and the speaking circuit.

    Herb Cain, like Sarah Palin, is not fit for office but is an irresistible topic to sell stories. But these kinds of candidates are not useful idiots, they are damaging to the social fabric. And every time conservatives buy into these ugly personalities, they only create a greater divide among our countrymen looking for real solutions, not soundbites and refrigerator magnet policies.

    I dream of the day when the GOP grows up and offers rational counterparts to compliment progressive slants, I believe in a balance and hope we find it again.

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  10. Anonymous5:32 AM

    Gyphen stated: "If Herman Cain were a REAL man, he would end his candidacy and spare his wife and family any further shame and humiliation."

    Let's change that statement just a bit.

    "If Sarah Palin were a REAL WOMAN, she should would have said, 'No thank you to John McCain' as his VP choice, and spare her pregnant teen daughter and the rest of her family any further shame and humiliation."

    She didn't and look what we as a Nation had to deal with & put up with these last 3 years.
    Ergo it's time for us to make sure that Chaos Cain doesn't go anywhere because I just can't picture another 3 years worth of bullcrap with this poor excuse of a man.

    --GypsyGirl

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  11. Anonymous5:46 AM

    @Beldar Fustian Conehead...that was superb!

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  12. Anonymous said...
    I want to know why all Cains accusers have ties to Chicago and why that one has DIRECT ties to Axelrod.
    3:59 AM
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    You stupid damn fool, the Association's headquarters for many years was in Chicago. The national headquarters only moved to Washington in 1979. There is a state office in Chicago.

    And try to get it through your thick, moronic, fact-free skull that at least one of the two women who filed claims in the 1990s, at the time the harassment occurred, has been for many years a registered Republican.

    I would like to know why he has contradicted himself and flat out lied throughout this situation.

    I would like to know why you support Cain's continuing and obvious contempt for and disrespect of women. Every time he opens his mouth he adds more weight to the accusations:
    --"Princess Nancy" for the first female Speaker of the House
    --jokes about Anita Hill
    --jokes about the sexual attractiveness of Ms. Allred

    And his contemptupus, joking attitude toward sexual harassment in general speaks volumes to his lack of character, ethics, abnd morals.

    Also, you stupid teabaggers are obviously all quoting lately from the same drool-stained talking points comic book about the Evil Monster Axelrod. If you are all so powerless before a campaign aide, you clearly can't be trusted with running a country. Morons, all of you. Vicious, stupid, lying, women-hating morons.

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  13. Anonymous6:21 AM

    Speaking of clowns...

    Gov. Rick Perry Can’t Remember His GOP Debate Answer On SNL Either

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/gov-rick-perry-cant-remember-his-gop-debate-answer-on-snl-either/

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  14. Anonymous6:39 AM

    Oh the idiocy burns:

    http://factcheck.org/2011/11/south-carolina-debate/

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  15. Anonymous6:44 AM

    Ha, Ha! Michele's panties are in a twist and she ain't takin' no shit...well, if whining like a candy ass baby is not taking any shit, anyway...

    Furious with Dickerson's response, Bachmann's campaign manager Keith Nahigian stormed through the spin room, where he said, 'John Dickerson should be fired. He is a piece of shit. He is a fraud and he should be fired.'

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/12/michele-bachmann-campaign-bias-cbs-email_n_1090655.html

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  16. Anonymous6:46 AM

    GOP CANDIDATES: LET'S WATERBOARD and start a war with Iran! Whoo hoo!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/12/gop-debate-iran-waterboarding_n_1090667.html?ref=politics

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  17. Anonymous6:53 AM

    Karen Kraushaar calls Herman Cain 'a serial denier'

    Karen Kraushaar, who went public earlier Tuesday confirming she was one of the women who previously filed a sexual harassment claim against Herman Cain, told CNN she is considering releasing the details of her allegations against Cain.

    "I have kept all of the copies of my allegations," she said. "So I believe that could happen."

    In her first interview since Cain's Tuesday news conference - in which he vehemently denied ever sexually harassing anyone - Kraushaar refused to comment specifically on Cain's defense. But she did say that if the female accusers get together to air their charges publicly, she expected he would still deny them.

    "He's a serial denier," she said. "He will deny if it is four or 40 women."

    Even so, Kraushaar told CNN she would like to organize a joint press conference some time in the near future with some of the other women who have alleged sexual harassment against Cain.

    "There is safety in numbers," she said. "It is important that it happen in one conference."

    Kraushaar's attorney, Joel Bennett, told CNN that Gloria Allred and her client, Sharon Bialek, have agreed to participate.

    Kraushaar added that "it's so uncomfortable for people to say what happened" - as Bialek did earlier this week with her public allegations - that "with the redaction of certain names," documents might be the least painful way for the women to tell their stories.

    Saying it's "no longer a private matter" she called the alleged sexual harassment by Cain "a personally embarrassing matter."

    She made the case that, as a civil servant now working for the Treasury Department, she is a "federal career employee and I can't enter into electioneering." But, she added, 'sexual harassment is not a Democratic problem or a Republican problem. It's an American problem."

    Kraushaar told CNN she entered into a $46,000 sexual harassment settlement with the National Restaurant Association in 1999 and said she was aware of the other settlement the association previously reached with a different employee.

    "I lived by the strictures of the confidentiality agreement for 12 years," she told CNN. But when approached by Politico, she felt like she couldn't deny the story. The site "had two names," she said. "At that point, if I deny, I'm lying."

    Kraushaar knows something about the media. She currently serves as the spokesman for a bureau within the Treasury Department.

    She also indicated that Cain's story about her - in which he says that he gesturing that her she is the same height as his wife - has nothing to do with her harassment allegations

    "A comment like that is so innocuous it wasn't even a part of my complaint," she said, allowing that it sounds "vaguely familiar." Without disclosing details, she said that there was "an incident in my office that was part of my complaint" that was the "inappropriate behavior."

    Trying to pre-empt criticism, she also confirmed that she had filed one complaint while working at another federal agency about not being able to telecommute after a car accident while a colleague was able to do so - and she felt it was unfair. She says she was always an employee in good standing.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/08/first-accuser-calls-cain-a-serial-denier/

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  18. WhoDrankAllMyCoffee7:29 AM

    Anon 4:15 THANKS for the Danzinger link, bro! Guess where I'll be spending my morning!!!

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  19. Anonymous7:54 AM

    I want to know why all Cains accusers have ties to Chicago and why that one has DIRECT ties to Axelrod.

    3:59 AM

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    That's funny @3:59, 'cause I want to know why an organization with an army of attorneys went ahead and paid all the accusers off instead of burying them in court -- you know, since according to Black WalNUT, their allegations were nothing more than spurious nonsense. Seems to me that they would've wanted to openly clear CEO WalNUT's 'good' name instead of quietly sweeping the claims under the rug.

    It's fun asking questions, ain't it?

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  20. Anonymous8:02 AM

    Hmm, as he does for himself, I wonder if she'll talk about the pizza godfather in the third person.

    I'd bet with her, it's either the Stockholm Syndrome or she's afraid to confront his bull and bullying behavior. Plus, sadly, he's probably her meal ticket as he would be a very controlling and dominant man.

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  21. Hugh deDu8:04 AM

    "Herb" always claims every inappropriate comment of his is a "joke." See, America, you just too stoopid to get such refined huma. Libruls just so dumb. Bet the fine folks of Bekibekibekistanstan think Herbie is a laff riot.

    Those horrible wimmen with their harassment claims, they just couldn't take a joke neither. Why, Herbert "Black Walnut" Sherbet has completely forgotten his innocent playful remarks, while the ugly wimmen keep hangin' on tryin' to make somethin' of entirely innocuous non-happenin's. Gloria Allred, indeed! Just another celebrity-chasin' fee-male tryin' to make a buck from thin air and false allegations.

    In Cain's interview with Michael Savage, Cain says he won't be anybody's Vice President but he'd like to be Secretary of Defense.
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/herman-cain-wouldnt-be-romneys-vp-would-like-to-be-secretary-of-defense/
    He wants to help "kick the you-know-what out of everyone in the world.” Wait for the backlash-- and he'll say, as he said before about the electric fence, "America needs to learn to take a joke."

    No we don't, Herbie. YOU are the joke.

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  22. sharon8:15 AM

    cain is not serious about running for prez. He's doing this as a joke and Rachael Maddow did an excellent piece on this. I believe her - this guy is just offensive on so many levels in so many ways. Each time i think the GOP can't go any lower or more bizarre they surprise me with a new "low".
    What has happened to this party? It's beyond crazy - it's really tragic - at least they used to be a serious party with educated candidates. Wow.

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  23. DanzTheMan8:35 AM

    Thanks again to Anon 4:15. How could we have missed this one?

    http://danzigercartoons.com/?p=3285

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  24. I was especially struck by the poor woman's body language in the photo. She certainly doesn't look like she wants to be next to him and he looks like he's clutching her to him with all his might.

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  25. DanzTheMan9:11 AM

    Sorry, but more chuckles:
    http://danzigercartoons.com/?p=3033

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  26. DanzTheMan9:32 AM

    Okay, one more:
    Palin as Shakespeare
    http://danzigercartoons.com/?p=2852

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  27. Anonymous10:25 AM

    Sarah's reference to Cain as "Herb" was not a mistake. She was using the Urban Dictionary definition: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=herb

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  28. Anonymous11:29 AM

    And now he has brought God into the act.

    He is another Moses? Who never existed by the way according to reformed rabbi's. A composite figure.

    Now I would love to see them using their voice analysis on Cains speaking about praying and praying and praying and God telling him to run.

    Unbelievable jackass that he is, and the clowns that are running with Gods validation.

    God? Are you listening to them?

    They are religious? What a joke.

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  29. Anonymous said...

    I want to know why all Cains accusers have ties to Chicago and why that one has DIRECT ties to Axelrod.

    3:59 AM

    Why don't you go to Chicago and find out Sarah! Otherwise....STFU!

    Mrs. "Pimp Daddy" Cain has been in some kind of Republican wife immersion program for the last week! She's now practiced enough to answer the questions the way they want her to....I'm sure she got the questions from the Greta show before hand and has the answers memorized....she'll probably relate some stupid ass Herman stories to make him seem NORMAL! It will be an EPIC FAIL!

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  30. Anonymous2:10 PM

    "An important part of the presidency is presiding at state functions. If Mrs. Cain is averse to the public eye, would Herman Cain preside alone, or would he have a designated hostess?"

    Mamie Eisenhower and Pat Nixon hated being in the public eye. But they performed their "job" as hostess and wife with a minimum of press contact. Even Lady Bird kept out of the political side though she was very active in none political ways
    These days that might not be possible but I suspect that the privacy of political wives who avoid the cameras and mics as much as possible are respected for the most part and left alone.

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  31. Anonymous5:44 PM

    Mrs Cain will most probably be seated next to her husband, if not, then he'll be sitting off camera, holding the cue cards with the answers to the questions Greta sent beforehand. I just have a feeling that Cain is one of those nutjobs that consider women as objects and subserviant and not equal to men in any respect.
    It takes a strong woman to stand up to a coward like Cain, just don't see it with Greta not sure about Gloria because I haven't heard a peep from her since the campaign started.

    And Fox? Really? Go on a real interview. Even Rachael would give them a break.

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  32. Anonymous6:46 PM

    Well, it looks like ol' Gloria is standing' by her man:


    After a report surfaced yesterday that Herman Cain‘s wife, Gloria, would be sitting down with Greta Van Susteren for an exclusive interview over the weekend, Van Susteren confirmed the news today on her blog Gretawire, with photos of Van Susteren and the couple and noting that the interview, which will also include some of their children, to air tomorrow.

    Mediaite has also obtained some of Mrs. Cain’s responses to the sexual harassment allegations, in which she tells Van Susteren: “…you hear the graphic allegations and we know that would have been something that’s totally disrespectful of her as a woman. And I know the type of person he is. He totally respects women.” She goes on to add, “I’m thinking he would have to have a split personality to do the things that were said.”

    The full interview airs tomorrow at 10 PM on Fox News’ On the Record.

    http://www.mediaite.com/uncategorized/gloria-cain-shoots-down-allegations-to-greta-van-susteren-herman-would-have-to-have-a-split-personality/

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  33. Anonymous6:29 PM

    If "Mr. Respectful of Women" was so awesome, why did he say he couldn't even think of ONE thing that Gloria Alread was useful for, that he doesn't know if he "called women hot" or something, and referring to Princess Nancy...He's shown his true colors when he's suppossed to be on his best behavior during the scrutiny of his character, he still can't hide his disrespect for women!

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