Courtesy of The Daily Beast:
Ivana Trump’s assertion of “rape” came in a deposition—part of the early ’90s divorce case between the Trumps, and revealed in the 1993 book Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump.
The book, by former Texas Monthly and Newsweek reporter Harry Hurt III, described a harrowing scene. After a painful scalp reduction surgery to remove a bald spot, Donald Trump confronted his then-wife, who had previously used the same plastic surgeon.
“Your fucking doctor has ruined me!” Trump cried.
What followed was a “violent assault,” according to Lost Tycoon. Donald held back Ivana’s arms and began to pull out fistfuls of hair from her scalp, as if to mirror the pain he felt from his own operation. He tore off her clothes and unzipped his pants.
“Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified… It is a violent assault,” Hurt writes. “According to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, ‘he raped me.’”
Following the incident, Ivana ran upstairs, hid behind a locked door, and remained there “crying for the rest of night.” When she returned to the master bedroom in the morning, he was there.
“You’re talking about the front-runner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as a private individual who never raped anybody. And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you can't rape your spouse.”
“As she looks in horror at the ripped-out hair scattered all over the bed, he glares at her and asks with menacing casualness: ‘Does it hurt?’” Hurt writes.
Remember this is the same guy who accused Mexicans coming over the border of being rapists and drug dealers.
In response to this Trump's attorney, Michael Cohen, claimed that when Ivana used the word "rape" she did not mean rape in the legal definition of the word, and besides:
“You cannot rape your spouse,” he said. “There’s very clear case law.”
Yeah, no there isn't.
Then Cohen got a little more aggressive with the Daily Beast reporters:
“I will make sure that you and I meet one day while we’re in the courthouse. And I will take you for every penny you still don’t have. And I will come after your Daily Beast and everybody else that you possibly know,” Cohen said. “So I’m warning you, tread very fucking lightly, because what I’m going to do to you is going to be fucking disgusting. You understand me?”
“You write a story that has Mr. Trump’s name in it, with the word ‘rape,’ and I’m going to mess your life up… for as long as you’re on this frickin’ planet… you’re going to have judgments against you, so much money, you’ll never know how to get out from underneath it,” he added.
Wow that seems awfully defensive and unnecessarily aggressive. Why would that be?
So I don't know folks, you tell me, do YOU think Donald Trump is a man capable for abusing his wife and forcing himself on her sexually?
And if he did, do YOU consider that rape?
Because I'm pretty sure you all know what I think.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/ivana-trump-denies-accusing-donald-trump-rape-daily-beast-120721.html?hp=l3_4
ReplyDeleteThat is rape, and Trump knows it. He uses his money to buy off any detractors. If Trump did not commit rape, how is having sex after drinking wine coolers in a tent rape. Sarah Palin has found herself another rapist to pal around with. Trump is a pig, and should have been jailed for violent assault and rape.
ReplyDeleteIt was predicted yesterday when this Daily Beast story first came to light, that Ivana Trump would issue a statement defending The Donald, and repudiating the details outlined in the "Lost Tycoon" book (published in 1993, 4 years after the incident).
ReplyDeleteSure enough, she did, as Anon's comment and link above show. No doubt this was done to protect her monthly income stream from The Donald.
In other news, the lawyer, Michael Cohen, profusely apologized for his stupid claims about marital rape and his threats to the Daily Beast investigative reporters.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/28/politics/donald-trump-adviser-michael-cohen-rape/
Of course she is.
DeleteShe said Donald ripped out chunks of her hair by the roots, held her down, and jammed his penis inside her.
So, was she lying then or now?
Her response didn't exactly repudiate it -- i.e., she didn't say, "This report is a lie! That's never happened!" No, she merely said the report was "without merit." That's a deliberately, lawyer-ly vague term that obviously aims to sound like a denial, but stops short of an actual denial.
DeleteTrump is less concerned that people think he raped his wife and more concerned that people think he got treated for a bald spot.
ReplyDeleteNow we know he's hiding a botched plastic surgery under that disgusting pelt in his head
Delete"... do YOU think Donald Trump is a man capable [for[ abusing his wife and forcing himself on her sexually?"
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Yes. He has given no indication that other people exist as individuals in their own right, free to have opinions differing from his.
"And if he did, do YOU consider that rape?"
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Yes, of course. Forcing oneself on another individual sexually is rape. Period. Marital status is irrelevant.
Nefer, I was just coming to answer those two questions myself.
Delete#1 Absolutely, and #2 even more emphatically, ABSOLUTELY.
Mildred
O/T but interesting comments about Sarah Pac.
ReplyDeletehttp://news.yahoo.com/sarah-palins-pac-her-tv-141138365.html
Boo hoo..... massive media attacks against Trump, reminiscent of severe attacks on former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.
Delete“One of the things I most admire about her (Palin) is that she took so much nonsense, lies and disgusting lies. She handles it so well. She’s tough and smart and just a great woman so it’s an honor to be with you today,” Trump said. “I still have people saying, get Sarah’s support, get Sarah’s support, no matter where I go…everybody loves her.”
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.130257!/img/httpImage/image.jpg
Check out the chart shown in this article. A huge revenue nosedive just like her career!!
Deletehttp://www.publicintegrity.org/2015/07/28/17713/sarah-palins-pac-her-tv-career-wane
This article was also published by Slate.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/07/sarah_palin_s_pac_is_spending_more_on_hotels_and_travel_than_on_gop_candidates.html
I don't recall Mrs Palin getting attacked, except for feedback from her own personal attacks on others. And, unlike most politicians, ushing her children to the front of the stage, whether pregnant or not. Attacks came from one of them claiming a future of chastity, then that daughter who made so much money from "abstinence" preaching turning up pregnant again. The other children have been ignored for the most part, haven't done anything particularly newsworthy except for some of them in the brawl in S Anchorage. One of them seems to have graduated from beauty school, that is nice. But Mrs. Palin herself has never been attacked unless she attacked someone else first.
DeleteBwahaha, 9:54.
DeleteAre you serious? Are you that big of a dumbass? Trump took the Palins to a pizza joint where anyone off the street can eat. Trump refused to allow the Palins to step foot on any of his properties.
Get a clue, you desperate morans. Sarah pitched Bristol for Trump's show. Trump shot her down. Sarah spent the rest of her "fantasy" pizza "date" with Trump going full on fangirl wannabe.
Bristol, to be blunt, is not pretty enough to interest Trump. She is "fat and boring." Sarah is "old and stupid."
Trump just wanted the world to see Sarah Palin kissing his ass. Get a clue....
Sarah Palin's PAC, like her TV career, on the wane
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So where’d the money go?
Diamonds are a girls best friend.
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/e15/10724056_914490625280623_220092626_n.jpg
http://flapsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/Mansour.jpg
Unlike many political action committees, very little of the $753,000 it spent from Jan. 1 to June 30 went directly to political candidates and committees.
Instead, SarahPAC’s top expenditures largely helped fortify its own existence — or help Palin personally.
Yay! The famous "pizza summit." Fun times! Sarah made the Donald promise her a personal tour of Trump Towers. The Donald said he'd give her a call.
DeleteSarah is still waiting for The Donald to call.
Was Mansour the Penguin in Batman the movie?
DeleteThere is also a Palin radio station broadcasting Palin news all the time. Trump was a recent guest and he said that he would love to have her advise him or perhaps be in his cabinet.http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-would-love-sarah-palin-in-his-cabinet-shes-a-special-person/
Deleteomg!
ReplyDeleteI suppose I better be careful about what I say about this lawyer. Maybe I won't express my opinion at all about him I am soooo intimidated.
In GENERAL (in life and not so much with attorneys) this seems like a small man syndrome type of thing. Big talk from a little shit.
SO these bullshit threats and bogus legal analysis didn't se to scare the reporters. Buahahaha.
FUCK you Donald. You know how to pick them also too.
One more thing.
Small man, big talk, little dick. Just ask Sarah!
Off rape topic but still about Trump from Right Wing Watch:
ReplyDeleteDonald Trump Would Consider Tapping Sarah Palin For Future Trump Administration -
See more at:
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/donald-trump-would-consider-tapping-sarah-palin-future-trump-administration#sthash.51MGT3Bo.dpuf
Well, thats it. He has finally shot himself in the foot.
Deletehttp://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-would-love-sarah-palin-in-his-cabinet-shes-a-special-person/
DeleteNow we really know he is an idiot! As if Sarah Palin would be knowledgeable enough to handle ANY position in ANY administration!
DeleteWe don't need to worry folks - Trump will never be elected POTUS. And, his bringing up Sarah Palin just decreased his chances!
Trump will say anything for a headline.
DeleteI don't know. She could be kitchen help. Or maybe she could count silverware before and after state dinners. Anyone who tries to eat NYC pizza with a plastic fork is surely not capable of much else. If this story gets out, she'll be full bore for Trump, and bring her straggling supporters along with her..watch it Donnie. The Palin Curse is very real. And Sarah really really really wants a White House wedding.
DeleteA White House wedding with all of Bristol's bastard babies as ring bearers and flower girls. What fool would volunteer to be the Husband?
DeleteThe Palin Curse is very real.
DeleteIf Sarah really wanted to defunk Planned Parenthood she would start having all the family reproductions handled with Planned Parenthood. The curse is real and once the Palins were sincerely advocates that would take care of things.
What Sarah in fact has been doing is defunding SarahPAC. She will never be able to help defund anything else the way she is going about this. She has the Palin Curse and she is too dumb to know what to do.
I'm sure she's capable of fetching coffee, providing someone else takes the orders and makes sure it's correct before she totes it back. Someone else will need to hand them out, of course.
DeleteShe can't work reception as she can't answer the phone or take messages.
Aside from eye candy, she's really not good for much else. Using her for that will only be good for a few more years.
Maybe he'll put her in charge of the White House Twitter account. She can be the Chief Twat.
Ya think he raped only one time?
ReplyDeletenope. probably not as much as old cosby did probably not that desperate or needy. But ugly and nasty? yes. probably prefers alive and kicking. the fight. old cos preferred comatose and dead.
DeleteOf course it's rape and as for Ivana I am sure she got paid handsomely for covering for him.
ReplyDeleteI didn't believe that about Cosby either. I don't understand Trump at all and I believe it's very possible.
ReplyDeleteI bet a photo of what lurks under that hidious pelt on his head would fetch a pretty penny....,
ReplyDeleteThe first 30 seconds of this clip shows what lurks under that hideous pelt:
Deletehttp://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/3kb8ma/7-20-15-in--60-seconds
To paraphrase Skakespeare: "God made him a dick (man), let him pass for one."
ReplyDeleteThought I was reading Game of Thrones for a minute there. He had scalp reduction surgery to reduce a bald spot, then ripped out the hair of his wife and raped her because of a bald spot gone wrong? Hey, sounds like presidential material to me. GOP version.
ReplyDeleteOne of the most seemingly asexual candidates in years, like jindal, or huck, can any of you gals imagine being attracted to any of the 3? A rape story on the donald, true or not, will only make the "conservative" women swoon as though reading one of their romance novels. Good news for him, any "rape" story, true or not.
ReplyDeleteHuck turns me off the most! Doubt he can even find his pee pee due to his obesity. The guy is vile! And, he is the worst kind of Christian on this earth! '
DeleteNone of those three will ever be elected POTUS!
>>do YOU think Donald Trump is a man capable for abusing his wife and forcing himself on her sexually?
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely, hands down, yes, yes, yes. He's a big bully and he uses his financial status to get away with all sorts of crap. He's a disgusting, vile, creepy guy, and that's why the GOP seems to love his sorry ass. He's a manipulative, despicable, vindictive asshole and YES, he would hurt a woman, in a heartbeat.
Most times you see him with his wife she's walking about 10 feet behind him and his entourage. All you need to know.
DeleteAll I can think of is their adult kids reading about their father raping their mother! The family is dealing with a mess!
ReplyDeleteMoney helps one get through anything.
DeleteThey will just go kill elephants or exotic animals on a reserve.
DeleteYes and yes.
ReplyDeleteSimple answers to simple questions.
(I have always loved this story, not sure who told it, maybe Sarah herself, in one of her books?)
ReplyDelete. . . a younger Sarah Palin, perhaps when 'playing mayor', played hooky one day and went into Anchorage to visit the Nordstrom's and gaze with wistful fascination at the glamorous Ivana Trump, who was there promoting her perfume line.
Following the players and the plots through time, bringing us up to the present, could be quite the introduction to 21st Century GOP Politics, 101. Especially the intersection of faux celebrity, money, and hidden power...
ps who wants to bet that the dentist from Minnesota who killed Cecil the Lion is an upstanding member of his Church and the Republican Party?
hmmm? I remember that story. Maybe during her shorty tent with city council or playing mayer thingy. She had a dream of being miss con gentil frumpy trumpy dumpy then.
DeleteMore is coming about about that dentist, who I am sure is going to lose his practice.
DeleteWalter J. Palmer, DDS.
Seems he poached a bear in Wisconsin the same way. Had a tag for one area, but killed this bear 40 miles outside of his designated zone. Then he and his buddies trucked the bear to his area and lied about where he shot it. He got a year suspended sentence and had to pay a three thousand dollars in fines. Didn't get to keep the bear either.
Prior to that he had been cited for fishing without a license.
A year after the bear he was censured by the medical board for sexual harassment of his receptionist and a patient. He paid $127,500 to settle that.
And now Cecil. Cecil had a collar and was lured out of the national park by them dragging a carcass behind their truck. After this inept A-hole shot Cecil, who was so tame he would lay in the middle of the road and expect cars to drive around him, Cecil was tracked for 40 hours, via his collar. When they found him they shot him with a rifle. Then then beheaded and skinned him. Didn't even offer the meat to the locals who are bound to lose a lot of tourist revenue now that this sporter of the tiniest dick in the world has shot their livelihood.
His excuse? "I didn't know."
Same old bullshit.
The two hunters with him are already arrested and being questioned. They are charged with poaching.
I'm sure Dr. Demento Palmer is already safely back in the U.S. Without his trophy as Cecil's remains were confiscated.
Palmer had to take down his twitter and Facebook due to the outrage. He and his clinic are still being skewered on Yelp although they are censoring those comments too.
I only hope the people of Minnesota take it to heart this Prick isn't someone they'd want to so much as clean their teeth. It has been in the local papers.
www.weau.com/home/headlines/18015589.html
www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_28548920/bloomington-dentist-accused-killing-zimbabwe-lion-illegally
He probably did rape his wife. He has so much money and is such an arrogant prick, he feels he is above the law.
ReplyDeleteNo. Like all rape it is a matter for controlling your victim, show of power and who's boss.
DeleteI'll bet none of the wives were allowed to say no or have a headache.
Let's hear the depositions in a criminal case. Trump can't lie, or, if he does,then he'll be jailed for perjury on the wittiness stand.
ReplyDeleteSind 1984, it's been illegal to rape one's own wife in New York State.
This will reveal wether, for tax reasons, Trump claimes to be a Florida resident.
Wlttiness stand. Lol.
DeleteExcellent read..
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marital_rape_%28United_States_law%29
If asked he would honestly answer no, I did not rape my wife. Because they is what he believes. He actually believes a husband cannot rape his wife.
DeleteDoesn't mean he didn't. Sure sounds like rape to me.
I'm sure the divorce settlement has a gag in it for Ivana so you'll never get anything out of her.
This story rightfully takes The Donald down from "powerhouse" to "sad little man".
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-would-love-sarah-palin-in-his-cabinet-shes-a-special-person/
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin's PAC, like her TV career, on the wane
ReplyDeletehttp://www.publicintegrity.org/2015/07/28/17713/sarah-palins-pac-her-tv-career-wane
'SarahPAC has this year depleted much of its once prodigious cash reserve, spending about a quarter-million dollars more than it raised, new filings with the Federal Election Commission indicate.
DeleteSarahPAC’s financial malaise coincides with Palin’s own star power dimming: Fox News in June declined to renew Palin’s contract as a commentator, and the Sarah Palin Channel, a subscription-based online TV feed Palin launched in 2014, is going dark this week.'
"Cohen apologized for his comments Tuesday, calling them "inarticulate," and said the reporter's question sent him into a tailspin."
ReplyDeleteI would say his response was way more than 'inarticulate' and went far beyond a tailspin. It was volatile, aggressive, threatening, and borderline violent. Completely unprofessional, but just the kind of lawyer that I would expect to be working for Donald Trump, who has exactly those same kind of personality traits.
Both of them are egotistical, arrogant bullies who think they can get their way by threatening someone they deem lesser than they are (which they believe includes everyone).
Disgusting and despicable, both of them.
I was going to post the same idea -- "inarticulate" -- you've got to be kidding! Inarticulate is any speech by Sarah Palin. I would hate to hear Cohen being articulate -- it would the strip paint off wall (kinda like Sarah's screechy voice).
Deletewhew!!!! so juicy. ugly dude raping the Iv over the bald spot removal? Trying to imagine this one? I think the Donald should pull a jenner and become donalina with the penis at both ends for the added qualification of president of celebraty moron club south.
ReplyDeleteI think he's capable of rape & being abusive. He's an asshole, liar, bully & a delusional braggart. I'd like to see the depositions. If this is true, I hope it causes him to fail politically and financially.
ReplyDeleteThat said, I also know the GOP is royally pissed at him. They can't control him as he's stealing the thunder from other presidential hopefuls. The GOP and their allies are devious, and even dangerous people. Look up the word 'ratfuck'. This may be a payback against him - whether it's true or a lie.
I know this is going to sound crazy, but I've had this nagging feeling that Trump is being paid /rewarded to be a stooge for Walker. He's taken many financial hits, along with spending his own money - that doesn't seem like a fiscally sound business practice.
We know Walker has some serious skeletons from Wisconsin that he needs to overcome, so what if the Kochs set up a popular stooge that eventually fails, which in turn makes the bought and paid for Walker look reasonable and like a sane dream come true to carry the Republicans to victory.
They say things are not always as it seems. After the 2000 selection, lies to war, treasury depleted, gerry-mandering, Citizen United, ALEC, so on and so forth ... I trust no Republican and their financial puppet-masters to do anything honorable.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist by any means. These are just things I've wondered about and decided to voice them out. I've just learned that the GOP and the big, big, big money wants things done their way, and will stop at nothing to achieve it. I learned that when Bush* had to win at all costs in 2000.
Denise
I am so sad to have to agree with you. What has happened to democracy in your country? The rest of the world is laughing/crying to see such stupidity, fraud, dark money run your elections.
DeleteWake up, you Democrats: get it together or you're going to lose a Presidential & Congressional election to regressive thugs.
Your country still affects the rest of the world. We are all watching and hoping for the best.
I think you might be right.
Deletethey hadn't had sex in 18 months? what's that about?
ReplyDeleteHe was having an affair with Marla Maples,and she got pregnant nd had his daughter out of wedlock.He only married her much later in a "gaudy" white wedding because after 9/11 happened he started feeling guilty about not marrying her.I can't wait until his holy rollers find out about this.Can't wait!
DeleteActuallyI misstated when they got married and why.....it was after the 'FIRST" World Trade Center Bombing in 1993,not 9/11.
DeleteThe thing about trump that always fascinated me was his upbringing. He was a rich kid from day one. Once he recognized that he had no real friends because he was rich, he eventually couldn't trust anyone, because they might be working an angle. That can make someone who has everything, very lonely. Money can buy anything, but, true friendship shouldn't cost a thing. So, to counter that, he became a ruthless prick. My thought is, the kids who pretended to be his friends were wealthy, too. So he's surrounded by a bunch of brats like him, he just decided to become the biggest brat, and he has. He never grew up, he simply grew richer. Now, he thinks, let's wage war on the poor people. Yeah, real fucking presidential
ReplyDeleteTap Duncan
Since CNN could not obtain a copy of the book:
ReplyDelete"Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump"
I sent them a Twitter with the url to Amazon. ;-)
>>do YOU think Donald Trump is a man capable for abusing his wife and forcing himself on her sexually?
ReplyDeleteDoes a bear shit in the woods?
He's an uber rich bully. He feels he is above the law and above decency. He will do anything he wants to, until someone will not be bought off, or the courts stop him.
Sound familiar?
It's not like rich people every buy or pay for sex...or have to pay off after sex.
DeleteRachel and LOD did this story. Trump had a "scalp reduction procedure", came home and assaulted Ivana. And yes, there IS such a thing as "marital rape". What convinced me wasn't the allegations nor Ivana's attempt at supporting the assaulter. She's done a lot for money in the past, and I'm sure she's compensated for her words now, which makes her doubly a victim in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteRape is an act of aggression against another person, involving control, power and sexual assault. What was described in the article fits the definition perfectly.
What convinced me most was Donald's crowing vindication because Ivana supported him AND the vile threats and language used by the lawyer, Mr Cohen. So yes, she had her hair pulled out, thrown on the bed and overpowered, then used as an object of Donald's rath and sexual conquest as "payback" for recommending the plastic surgeon.
Here's an idea, sic Cohen on the Doctor, he's the one who fucked up your scalp and leave your mail order ex wife out of it and the reporter who did the story. Better yet, prove him wrong.
Cohen did himself and his client no favor by his non apology apology.
Not only do I believe Donald Trump did exactly that, it sounds like he hired a lawyer just like himself.
ReplyDeletePlease tell me The Daily Beast said Trump and rapist in the same article. Pleaseohpleaseohplease.