Gov. Mary Fallin on Tuesday said the Ten Commandments monument will stay at the Capitol despite a court ruling that said it violated the state Constitution and must be removed.
Fallin said Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt has asked the Oklahoma Supreme Court to reconsider its 7-2 decision, which was handed down last week after a challenge by the ACLU of Oklahoma on behalf of three plaintiffs.
In addition, lawmakers have filed legislation to let people vote on whether to remove a portion of the state Constitution cited in the ruling. Article II, Section 5 of the constitution reads:
“No public money or property shall ever be appropriated, applied, donated, or used, directly or indirectly, for the use, benefit, or support of any sect, church, denomination, or system of religion, or for the use, benefit, or support of any priest, preacher, minister, or other religious teacher or dignitary, or sectarian institution as such,” according to the Oklahoma Constitution.
The court said the monument was obviously religious in nature and an integral part of the Jewish and Christian faiths. The constitution bans the state from using public money or property for the benefit of any religious purpose, according to the opinion.
So to be clear these lawmakers are actually willing to change their state's constitution in order to be allowed to put up a display of the Ten Commandments on the Capitol grounds.
Thereby placing Christianity as more important than the laws of the state as determined by their founders.
Yeah, nothing troubling about that.
Remind me, this is the 21st Century, right?
Why would anyone want to live in the 'flat' state of Oklahoma? Most of the Christians living there probably don't live by the commandments anyway!
ReplyDeleteI really hope that they change it. But change it so vaguely, that the Muslims' as well as the Spaghetti Monster and the Satanists and all the other crazies will then insist on having their own memorial/statues/statutes posted. Just like it happened with the Creche displays in some states, where they now have to have the Nativity Scene, but also other religion's displays.
ReplyDelete"Remind me, this is the 21st Century, right? "
ReplyDeleteIt is, except for Oklahoma, which remains firmly stuck in the 15th Century. I would not be surprised to learn there are more churches per capita than anywhere else in the US.
9:17 "Except for Oklahoma" and Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Georgia, Floriduh, Arizona, Texas, West Virginia, Virginia, Tennessee, North/South Carolina, Ohio, Missouri, Arkansas...... Tell me again why America didn't want the south to secede?
DeleteIf this passes every religious denomination should petition to have an artifact of their religion displayed also, especially a monument to the Koran. Watch them scramble then.
ReplyDeleteWhy would anyone let people in Washington DeeCee in judicial robes rule their lives when we already have our own religion to do that?
ReplyDeleteThat the Ten Commandments may be placed at every courthouse in this great land for EVERYONE to bow down to as they seek justice!
Insha'Allah!
Typical republican mindset, scream and yell about the Founders and the Constitution but when your own state constitution conflicts with your desire to place religious monuments on state grounds their answer is not to obey the law but to change it!
ReplyDeleteAnd these are the same fuckwits that are always screaming about Sharia law. But they want to enforce their own brand of it on the rest of us.
Man, my list of states to never go to is getting longer and longer. Wonder how many others have a 'don't go there' list of states? I'll save my plans and visits to states where the stupid (or in other cases, the racism) doesn't assault me.
ReplyDeleteMassachusetts welcomes you. We probably have some rules and laws you'll disagree with, but, by-and-large, we're a pretty descent place to visit. From Plymouth Rock and Cape Cod on the ocean, to Boston, once home of notorious bell-ringer Paul Revere, throughout the state, all the way to its western border which has mountains and theaters and museums.
DeleteAlso. Eliz.Warren is one of our Senators and we're right next door to Bernie Sanders' Vermont. Come enjoy some clams and lobsters and a visit to Thoreau's pond.
Since it violates the U.S. Constitution, those state-owned Commandments will be down as soon as the ACLU and others file a suit.
DeletePerhaps Ron Reagan, (son of St. Reagan) who's an atheist, will join in. His personal motto: "Not afraid of burning in Hell."
More good news from the god botherers!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/disgraced-minister-godly-carpentry-work-gave-josh-duggar-a-whole-new-respect-for-young-ladies/
Josh Duggar learned to control his “lust” while doing construction work under a “godly mentor” after admitting to sexually abusing his sisters and another girl, said the disgraced former minister who ran the counseling program.
Bill Gothard, who resigned last year from the Institute of Basic Life Principles he founded over sexual harassment claims against him, described the Christian counseling Duggar, then 15, underwent after his parents learned of the molestation, reported The Daily Mail.
“Once he became a Christian, of course his conscience became even more delicate and he wanted to follow and please the Lord,” Gothard said. “When Josh came back he was a different person.”
Ain't nothin' like a few weeks of hipperkrit schoolin' to make a southern boy into a good xtian man just like his daddy.
DeleteI thought the Duggars WERE Christians? One of the Quiverful xtians?
DeleteBill Gothard? Really???? They took Josh to someone called "Got hard" and when he came back, he was "like a different person"
DeleteIn what respect, Gothard????
Go read the article on Daily Kos, headlined something like Oklahoma governor needs civics lesson. If u were to read her response to a question about the ruling, u would swear she wad channeling someone with the word salad coming out of her mouth. And it was the OK supreme court who ruled, and I would bet that all of them were appointed by Republican governors.
ReplyDeleteThis whole fiasco is nothing more than scared evangelical disciplinarian/ authoritarians tinkling all over the public arena like Chihuahuas to mark their lackluster territory. "Smell that, atheist people, gay people, Muslim people, woman people?? That's the stench of [beer belch] Amrrkun Freedumb!!!"
ReplyDeleteMost people don't realize that Catholics and Protestants number the Ten Commandments differently. The version they want to put up is probably the Protestant version. Why aren't the Catholics complaining and wanting equal treatment for their version?
ReplyDeleteNo room in the Oklahoma clown car for Catholics!
DeleteMonument looks like a gravestone to me. Ironic, no?
ReplyDeleteNow who is shitting on the constitution, Mr. Nugent?
ReplyDeleteMan, my list of states to never go to is getting longer and longer.
ReplyDeleteNo kidding.
DeleteI'm thinking of the tax money that will be used to pay these legislators to write the state constitutional amendment, and the time that they spend in committee and in session to vote on it, knowing perfectly well that it's going to be challenged and eventually they lose. This is just their way of saying, "We got a bunch of ignernt constituents who want us to do something 'bout this here gravestone, so we're pretending we give a shit about it despite the fact that we know we're gonna lose. When we lose, we'll blame that Kenyan islamofascist in the White House and they'll be dumb enough to believe it."
ReplyDeleteDoes that mean it would become illegal to worship any other than Yahweh?
ReplyDelete"I AM the Lord your God, and thou shalt not have any other gods before Me."
Does that mean Christianity would become illegal, since Yahweh was/IS the god of the Jews?
Or would that mean that Catholicism would become the State Religion? Or Lutheranism? Methodist? Baptist?
Pass the popcorn and let the games BEGIN!
Michigan Town Must Provide Equal Access to Atheists, Judge Rules
ReplyDeletehttp://freakoutnation.com/2015/02/michigan-town-must-provide-equal-access-to-atheists-judge-rules/
Conservatives in the West cannot advocate for the Ten Commandments and campaign against the Shariah at the same time, the two are one and the same.
ReplyDeleteThat's a horror story.
ReplyDeleteWill the last sane person to leave Oklahoma, please take the flag with you.
ReplyDeleteActually, I hope they DO change it, against the judge's order. But don't complain when the Muslims, Buddhists, Rastafarians, Protestants, Wicca, Atheists, and all Polytheistic sects erect their own monuments.
Was God "Christian" before his son was born? If I remember correctly, he always was, is and will be. So what was he before his son was born?