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In his 1990 autobiography, “Gifted Hands,” Mr. Carson writes of a Yale psychology professor who told Mr. Carson, then a junior, and the other students in the class—identified by Mr. Carson as Perceptions 301—that their final exam papers had “inadvertently burned,” requiring all 150 students to retake it. The new exam, Mr. Carson recalled in the book, was much tougher. All the students but Mr. Carson walked out.
“The professor came toward me. With her was a photographer for the Yale Daily News who paused and snapped my picture,” Mr. Carson wrote. “ ‘A hoax,’ the teacher said. ‘We wanted to see who was the most honest student in the class.’ ” Mr. Carson wrote that the professor handed him a $10 bill.
No photo identifying Mr. Carson as a student ever ran, according to the Yale Daily News archives, and no stories from that era mention a class called Perceptions 301. Yale Librarian Claryn Spies said Friday there was no psychology course by that name or class number during any of Mr. Carson’s years at Yale.
Well Ben Carson has had enough of his good name being sullied by people bringing up those damn "facts" so he posted this earlier today on Facebook.
On Saturday a reporter with the Wall Street Journal published a story that my account of being the victim of a hoax at...
Posted by Dr. Ben Carson on Sunday, November 8, 2015
Yep. That article, labeled under the header “parody,” is responding to a joke issue of the Yale Record, the college’s humor magazine, where the story about the hoax class first appeared. Carson is treating Yale’s equivalent of The Onion as a matter of historical record.
Wow! I don't even...I mean wow!
I think we may actually have to stop comparing Carson to Sarah Palin. Because at this point I kind of think he has left Palin in his rear view mirror as far as telling lies and batshit crazy statements are concerned.
Seriously....wow!
This just in from the bat-shit-crazy signal:
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"Recently, Bachmann was invited on a right-wing hate group’s radio show to discuss the biblical End of Days. Like host Tony Perkins, Bachmann is a firm believer that Jesus is returning to harken the Rapture any day now. And like many on the right, Bachmann feels that Israel is the key to kicking the whole thing off. If you’ve ever wondered why otherwise intolerant conservative Christians seem to care so much about protecting the Jewish people living in Israel, the short answer is they don’t. The longer answer is they believe getting Jews to Israel is the bat signal humans can use to alert God that we are ready to be raptured. The actual Jewish people instrumental to this whole scheme won’t be raptured, of course. However important they may be, they never accepted Jesus Christ into their hearts and therefore don’t get to go to Heaven."
It's not like Dr. Carson is all that unique in republican batshitcrazy presidential candidate wannabe's.
He is not nuttier than Palin. She lies just as much as he does.
ReplyDeleteWhat does being voted as most honest have to do with retaking a test?
Deleteyeah, i missed that too...
DeleteNothing at all, of course. It's just Carson trying to elevate himself above everyone else at all times in his life. He actually has an ego that compares to Trump, which I didn't think possible until I saw the interior pics of his home and all the crap on the walls about him. It didn't look like a home. It looked like a museum built to honor Carson.
DeleteJust like Sarah Palin, Ben Carson knows that his supporters are the stupidest of the stupid. He knows they won't read that clipping or if they do, they won't understand it. He will just claim liberal media bias, once again.
ReplyDeleteThe article he posted identifies that the false exam was a joke and "was attended by several students". It was not the product of a professor wanting to test students honesty. Even if this happened, Carson has lied about two very important details and has placed himself on a pedestal of false honesty that he claims no other student could claim.
ReplyDeleteIf he did attend this exam, he would simply be one of the students who fell for the prank and not some kind of super honest human. The fact that he has tried to use this to prove his honesty is pathetic as well as proving that he is anything but honest.
Sorry, but I think to this day Carson doesn't realize the paper he read was a parody nor that the test he attended was a hoax.
DeleteI don't think he understands the article he's cut out and saved all these years.
I believe he thinks it proves he is an honest student that showed up for a make-up exam.
He just can't get his head around the concept of parody nor believe he was the butt of a hoax.
That nutjob freak has followers who will jump off the cliff with him..By the 10s of thousands.. UNREAL, But REAL!
ReplyDeleteSP will be holding his hand i think..PLEASE LEAP NOW..
A Martyr In His Own Mind: Ben Carson Thinks He’s Doing You A Favor By Running For President
ReplyDeletehttp://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/08/ben-carson-running-president.html
This fellow is certifiable. It becomes more obvious daily. He, like Palin, is not tethered in any form to facts. He floats freely, making it up as he goes along. His oblivious base (The Carson ignorati) think he is wonderful. They, too, live in a world of make-believe and pretend.
ReplyDeleteNext thing you know he'll turn up pregnant
DeleteSo, Carson is basically admitting he was the gullible subject of a hoax and couldn't tell the difference between the legitimate Yale newspaper and the Onion version.
ReplyDeleteAt least that's how I read it.
He read the parody newspaper, went to the hall where the hoax tests were being presented. Yeah, maybe they took his photo and gave him $10 for the inconvenience of being a gullible fool. Maybe the hoax issue even printed the photos of the clowns who showed up to their little prank in the next issue.
This is hardly anything to brag about.
And the professor wouldn't have given him $10 for being honest if the other students walked out after seeing how hard the test was. She would have given him $10 for being tenacious enough to stay and take it again.
Didn't a study show that Republicans had a difficult time recognizing parody and satire? I'd say this is proof positive since to this day Carson has no clue he was reading a parody paper nor that the test he showed up to take was in fact a hoax.
Like other commentators, I fail to see why falling for the hoax signals honesty on his part. To me, it seems that he was the most dense, the most gullible, etc. Did he think that any one who left the room must have cheated on their exam? Is that how his mind works? If so, how perverse!
ReplyDeleteNo one left the room. There was no second exam. The story was a joke.
DeleteUnfortunately, 1:27, HE doesn't believe it was a joke. He obviously firmly believes it actually took place.
DeleteToo bad the Republicans didn't make him their nominee and THEN all this stuff came out about what a whackadoodle this guy is. Makes some of the other candidates look quite sane. He's just a grifter wanting to increase sales of his novel about his fictitious life.
ReplyDeleteAlso, too, Carson wants to justify upping his speaking fees.
DeleteWon't matter.
DeleteThis guy is polling FIRST.
And after knocking Trump off the #1 spot.
Says a lot about both the clown car and the clowns voting for them.
I'm no psychology expert, but isn't there a concept that sometimes a person keeps drawing attention to his or her weakness or something they don't like about themselves? Carson wants to deny that he has a problem with honesty, so he often attributes statements that others have said as being statements about his honesty, when in fact, those people probably never even commented on the issue of honesty. He seems to use a situation that happened and turn it into "praise for his honesty," when the story was probably about something totally different.
ReplyDeleteYes, you are right. I think the way I say it is "People most loudly criticize in others what they most quietly fear about themselves".
DeleteSo here is the problem with Dr Carson's explanation. His autobiography apparently claims that his professor of 'Perceptions 301' (not a class conducted at Yale when Dr Carson attended Yale) told a group of 150 students that their exams had been destroyed. The article says that 'several' students showed up. They showed up for a fake retake of a test in Psychology 10, not 'Perceptions 301' (which would have been an advanced class, if normal college class numbering is used). No mention of money handed out. No professor's name given in the 'hoax'--but didn't Dr Carson know his professor's name? He remembered that it was a woman, apparently. So he took a remembrance of a hoax, and made it into his own little excellent story about how honest he is. It doesn't bolster his case one bit. Now the journalists need to ask even more questions!
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It's already been verified that there was no such class by the name either Dr. Carson wrote about, or the parody news source wrote about. Dr. Carson originally identified the course as "Perceptions 301", the numerical designation customarily assigned to courses for 3rd year students who've completed 100 and 200 level courses.
DeleteThe parody course in the "Off the Record" article in the real Yale DAILY NEWS is listed as "Psychology 10". I'd be vastly surprised if any university titled a course for 3rd year students who've completed prerequisite courses with only a 2-digit identifier.
Carson is looking pretty whack. The truth is starting to leak out about all the sh*t he has made up.
ReplyDeleteThe truth about Sarah will leak out too. It is much worse than what people think.
Palin hoax or not, I think most people would just as soon forget she was ever in the national political picture. I doubt anything will ever be unearthed until after Todd and Sarah lose what power they still seem to exert over folks in Alaska. In other words, after they're deceased.
Deleteafter they're deceased.
DeleteThat may not be all that far away.
If a professor presents a mandatory make-up test, students will NOT sacrifice their hard earned important grades by walking out.
ReplyDeleteBenjie, when your are up to your eyes in bullshit it's better not to open your mouth!
But a prof could certainly be challenged on something like this. Esp. If as Carson's version claims, it was a surprise retake NOT a make up exam.
DeleteAnonymous @ 4:45 PM, IT WAS A HOAX STORY. NOTHING about the story is true.
DeleteCarson either lifted the story from the fake Yale Record (which is the parody campus news outlet) or he lifted the story from this Yale Daily News follow-up debunking story, plugging in the name of a course he actually did take instead of the Psychology 10 course in the story.
It's amazing how many people commenting on his Facebook page are as taken in by the debunking article as he apparently was when he wrote the book the hoax story appeared in.
OT-Tax Ammo to help pay for Mental Health Care for all.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/peggy-drexler/straight-shooting-the-gun_b_8478242.html
On his Facebook page, Carson says, And here is the syllabus for the course."
ReplyDeleteBut the link he posts is to a syllabus for something called Psychology 323b: Perception.
And the syllabus is from 2002!
Carson is . . . unhinged.
I'm hoping for such a severe public breakdown that he has to be carted off the stage.
Unfortunately, those who truly believe he is the right one, will probably think he is "speaking in tongues".
DeleteThat Yale Perception & Cognition Lab syllabus Carson posted a link to is from 2002, and none of the references, alumni, grad students, affiliates, lab abstracts, news archive, or publications listed at that link go back farther than 1997.
DeleteYet Carson apparently claims his Perception class was attended in, what, 1970?
The newspaper article is a joke, a spoof, a PARODY. It says so. It's made up and repeated from school to school. Carson read it and somehow made that part of his memory.
ReplyDeleteI wonder why he stopped operating on people and turned instead to operating a hoax on people. Did he suffer brain damage? Did someone whack him upside the head? Oh, maybe this is his defense (insanity) when those malpractice lawsuits come to court.
If student exams were lost in a fire, then I'd like to see the newspaper article about the fire, not the makeup exam.
ReplyDeleteexactly - it would be big news.
DeleteI'm sorry, did I miss something. I read that article several times, and I couldn't find any mention of Ben Carson receiving $10. for being the only student to show up for the re-test, hoax or no hoax. He just saved an article which has nothing to do with him. The gist of it is whether on student newspaper copied an article from another school. Ben, I still don't believe you!
ReplyDeleteBen Carson: My biography isn’t ‘100 percent accurate’ — but ‘none of the things are lies’
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-carson-my-biography-isnt-100-percent-accurate-but-none-of-the-things-are-lies/
Politico has an interesting story, relating how Tony's Dinner Theater in Columbia, Md., has showcased a play about the life of Ben Carson for the past 20 years and ended this year.
ReplyDeleteInteresting that many of Carson's defenders in that piece claim it is another hit piece. Someone needs to dig into why revealing this play's history is a "hit piece" because I did not see it that way.
66gardeners
I think the question is did Tony's Dinner Theater in Columbus, MD really have a play about the life of Ben Carson running for the past 20 years.
DeleteSeems simple to fact check.
Is there a Tony's Dinner Theater.
What plays have they showcased or even run in the last 20 years.
Which one was about Ben Carson.
How long did it run, from what year to what year.
How hard is this?
first test: Link provided?
Deletesecond test: Seem believable?
third test: google that chit!
Amazingly enough this comment is actually apparently fact based!
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/11/the-other-ben-carson-213333
"For 21 years, Havely has played Carson in “Ben Carson, M.D.,” a children’s theater production seen by a generation of Baltimore area school kids who read Carson’s memoir Gifted Hands as part of their curriculum. Long before Cuba Gooding Jr. played the neurosurgeon on film, "
Bonus links from 1995 and 1999
Deletehttp://articles.baltimoresun.com/1995-01-23/news/1995023054_1_ben-carson-theatrical-arts-arts-production
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1999-01-21/news/9901210050_1_ben-carson-toby-s-dinner-theatrical-arts
And hour long children's play is the "showcase" Of TOBY'S Dinner Theater?
DeleteGot the name wrong and seriously inflated or mislead the "play".
Yeah, add this to the hoax test and Joseph's pyramids.
Anyone voting for this clown *needs* a neurosurgeon.
I still think there is something else here to dig up. Why do Carson supporters see the revelation of this play as a "hit piece".
DeleteTo showcase means to put on a show @9:04.
showcase as a verb: To showcase is defined as to clearly display. An example of to showcase is to put on an art show of the works of the best students.
66gardeners
I just noticed autocorrect changed Toby's to Tony's in my original post. I also figured if I said it was in Politico everyone was smart enough to find the piece on their own without supplying a link. There was so much in that article that I didn't bother recapping the highlights. It is definitely fascinating stuff.
DeleteI live 1/2 hour away and had heard of Toby's so I know it is TOBY'S although I actually had never heard that this play ran nonstop for 20 years. I never heard of the play at all, as a matter of fact. I guess because Carson received no $$$ from the endeavor, he never spoke about it publicly that I know of. It could be that his handlers knew revealing this play would make defending his inaccuracies about his history very difficult to say the least.
66gardeners
I think the reason you never heard of it is because it wasn't a showcase for the dinner theater.
DeleteI think Toby's was used to stage this one hour play during the day for school field trips.
After 20 years it was finally no longer relevant to the kids, those putting it on finally retired, or with shrinking budgets they either decided no more field trips or whoever is staging it decided to go to the schools and do it in the auditoriums.
As a physician, Carson should have known that no psychology professor would perform an experiment on human subjects (students) without prior written informed consent from the students. The whole entire story start to finish is complete and utter bullshit.
ReplyDeleteNo university's IRB would ever have permitted such an asinine stunt.
And why is it Carson's explanations always make him look even worse?
Today he whined that of course one's memory might not be perfect when recalling events from 40-50 years ago. Yes, but dumbass, you wrote Gifted Hands 25 damn years ago when you were much closer to events.
That man is not right in the head.
Funny. I'm 61 and was reminiscing with my Mother about events 45-50 years ago and our recollections matched perfectly. Yeah, we're both getting on but wouldn't we have made separate memory errors?
DeleteI have grave doubts about a neurosurgeon with such faulty recall and poor retention.
Carson had a perfect formula for making money from the books that others (check the list of different named authors on his many books) paired up to author with him. Poor boy, illiterate mother, bully turned saint with Jesus at his back, doing surgeries no other doctors would attempt, etc. He got a movie out of his religious conversion and it and made him millions.
ReplyDeleteHe has to be a superman if he did 500 surgeries a year and wrote all those books too. Did he ever sleep or eat?
Maybe he thought only the xtian right would read his books, not people vetting him for president. Surprise!
He said in 2002 that he had surgery for prostate cancer and was completely cured of the disease with the surgery. In 2004 he gave a speech at a Mannatech event and credited the Mannatech supplements with curing him of prostate cancer symptoms. Which is it, Ben?
Also too
ReplyDeleteBen Carson Says Drug Addiction Is A Symptom Of ‘Political Correctness’
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/11/08/3720420/ben-carson-addiction-political-correctness/
hmm... needle on the bs detector is pegged...
Good thing they didn't have cocaine before the Harrison Narcotic Act of 1914 Dr Ben 'make shit up' Carson! Because that's before there was such a thing as political correctness...
He was yammering on and on on the sunday news shows, complaining that journalists are asking people things, checking and double checking their sources, then calls them liars because they couldn't find ONE person who remembers any of the incidents.
ReplyDeleteSee, he took a book from Shemp Palin, when your backs against the wall because of something YOU said, it's that damn lamestream media and librul bias. He spoke over George Stephanopoplous a few times, and George should have cut his mic and went on to the next story.
Carson dug this hole, and it's up to Carson to fill it. Will it get him votes? I doubt it.
In all of his internet bios Carson is listed as professor of neurosurgery, oncology, plastic surgery and pediatric medicine. Really? How? Where?
ReplyDeleteUm, all of 'em, any of 'em that, um, have, have been in front of me over all these years. Um, I have a
DeleteI believe one is a professor of surgery or medicine, not a professor of a subspecialty. A physician may specialize, but their professorship is in surgery.
DeleteI may be wrong but I worked in medicine and never heard of anything but a professor of medicine or a professor of surgery.
66gardeners
Ben Carson was fake pregnant with a Down Syndrome baby in 1989. This baby helps him do brain surgeries and also guides him in his daily life and teaches him lessons.
ReplyDelete"Wow! I don't even...I mean wow!"
ReplyDeleteG, Thanks. Precisely the right words for this loon and his nutty story.
So, if that story was a creation from a humor magazine, then.......say what????
ReplyDeleteDid Ben Carson read that and think, hum, maybe if I use that in my book, and use ME as the main character, It'll impress readers as to my tenacity and endurance.
I almost feel like Sarah ain't all that bad. I said, "Almost".
OMG.
ReplyDeleteI feel like Teresa Giudice in the season finale of RHONJ.
Pay Attention!! Crazy...then flip the table.
Ben Carson is nuts. WAKE UP AMERICA and PAY ATTENTION
They don't mention Ben Carson in the newspaper article. He is not being applauded as the only honest student in the class. It was a parody column seems to have been lifted from another school's parody paper. Carson, can't you take a joke? Why was it who told you that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain? Someone has been pulling your leg.
ReplyDeleteHe STILL reminds me of Clarence Thomas.
ReplyDeleteClarence Thomas is silent. Ben Carson talks too much.
DeleteCarson, you flunk that psychology class if you can't tell a parody from serious reporting. You are lucky that your name didn't appear in that article because then you would be a joke, too. Oops.
ReplyDeleteyou've got that right. Carson's perceptions are lacking.
Delete66gardeners
Both Palin and Carson tell stories that are not true. Their motives appear to be to enhance their images-- Sarah didn't abort that DS child so she is pro-life. (Never mind that Sarah didn't give birth to Trig. She was really covering for Bristol who was pregnant, but when they saw that Trig had DS, Sarah took him on as her political ticket to the VP nomination).
ReplyDeleteCarson lied to make himself even bigger than he already was. There was no dinner with Westmoreland, no scholarship to West Point, no $10. for being the only honest student in a non-existent psychology class. His Biblical version of Joseph and the pyramids is right up there as a climate denier and and evolution denier. Can that guy have gone to medical school and performed those operations? Really?
Carson's story of being held up in a Popeye's Organization can't be documented by the Baltimore Police, and Sarah's version of her Wild Ride changes from 8 months at MatSu to 7 1/2 months in Anchorage, yet no one saw a pregnant Sarah flying back to Alaska, in labor and leaking amniotic fluid.
I must be missing something. Why would a 50-ish man use an incident from when he was 20 or so to prove that he is an honest man?
ReplyDeleteA LOT can happen in 30 years!
I'm more interested in how honest he is now and what his recent past says about his past actions and how he's learned his "world view" or his "personal view" of life.
Why does he have to prove he is an honest man?
DeleteSeems to me anyone that goes out of his way to prove it, is probably dishonest or hiding something.
Has anyone seen Ben Carson's Yale degree?
ReplyDeleteSerious question, has anyone seen Ben Carson's brain? Can't wait for that dissection.
Delete66gardeners
Jesus. The comments on that Facebook post leave me terrified for the human race. How can THAT MANY PEOPLE buy what Dr. Snoozy Mc PantsOnFire is selling???
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