President Trump’s chief of staff John Kelly on Monday night praised Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee and said that “both sides” in the Civil War fought in good faith.
Kelly was speaking during an interview on Fox News when he made the comments, defending the historical significance of the Confederacy.
“Robert E. Lee was an honorable man. He was a man who gave up his country to fight for his state,” Kelly told the network about the Southern general in the bloody war between the North and the South.
The Civil War was fought after the South seceded from the Union mostly due to a disagreement over slavery.
“The lack of the ability to comprise led to the Civil War,” Kelly said.
I'm sorry, in the disagreement over whether or not it is right to own another human being, where is the compromise?
Black folks should only be slaves until age eighteen?
Or only every other black person should be owned by a white man?
This "good people on both sides" argument is of course the same one that Trump made after a white supremacist ran over protesters in Charlottesville, and several others were beaten and even shot at.
Apparently this is an official White House talking point when it comes to defending Confederate soldiers and their statues.
I had essentially given up on any idea that John Kelly had any integrity after he attacked and lied about Rep. Frederica Wilson, and this own proves that I was right to do so.
Kelly is as big a jerk as his boss. Perhaps worse.
ReplyDeleteWhat type of compromise could there possibly have been? Yikes! You couldn't own slaves you could only lease them?
DeleteDog whistle. They're too dumb to know that we know.
DeleteTalk about revisionist history.
DeleteInitially and for some time I thought this was a man of integrity. I now see otherwise.
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ReplyDelete"New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo called it a “lone wolf” attack and said there was no evidence to suggest it was part of a wider plot.
New York City Police Commissioner James O’Neill said a statement the driver made as he got out of the truck and the method of attack led police to conclude it was a terrorist act."
I have zero respect for Kelly! He gives a very bad name to other Generals! Getting involved w/Trump was his idiocy and he's ruined his reputation for the rest of his life throughout our country.
ReplyDeleteKinda figured when Kelly was put on as Chief of staff he was on the Trump team. As well. Typical. No one in Washington has any integrity anymore. We were just hoping. And now with Trump, it's toilet drain the whole way. No going back.
ReplyDeleteKelly is a disgrace to the American military (who actually fought against the South).
ReplyDeleteGo to hell General.
Kelly clearly a spineless trump sucker. Has no mind of his own. " both sides to blame"
ReplyDeleteWhat a worm, no fucking self esteem.
Bought by the dotard. Ewwww.
Get him out of here!!
Kelly made those stupid Civil War comments on the premier of Laura Ingraham's new show on Fox. The idiot Chief of Staff also stated that he would NEVER apologize to Rep. Wilson from Florida for his false statements about her. JERK. He must be a Trump wannabe.
ReplyDeleteOT Recently (maybe last week) Trump declared
ReplyDeletehe or we “have dessimated ISIS”. How arrogant and untrue is that? I bet his supporters swallowed that hook.
who wrote that line? isis is never going away.
DeleteBirds of a feather flucks together
ReplyDeleteWhat do you expect? The Groper-In-Chief doesn't want boy scouts working for him.
ReplyDeleteno good person wants to own another human being.
ReplyDeleteKelly says Robert E. Lee was an honorable man? According to the Constitution, it is treason to take up arms against the United States.
ReplyDeleteWasn’t Lee also a graduate of West Point? So dishonorable and a traitor.
Delete"Lee entered West Point in the summer of 1825. At the time, the focus of the curriculum was engineering; the head of the Army Corps of Engineers supervised the school and the superintendent was an engineering officer. Cadets were not permitted leave until they had finished two years of study, and were rarely allowed off the Academy grounds. Lee graduated second in his class, behind only Charles Mason,[28] (who resigned from the Army a year after graduation). Lee did not incur any demerits during his four-year course of study, a distinction shared by five of his 45 classmates. In June 1829, Lee was commissioned a brevet second lieutenant in the Corps of Engineers.[29] After graduation"The 1850s were a difficult time for Lee, with his long absences from home, the increasing disability of his wife, troubles in taking over the management of a large slave plantation, and his often morbid concern with his personal failures.[53]
DeleteIn 1852, Lee was appointed Superintendent of the Military Academy at West Point.[54] He was reluctant to enter what he called a "snake pit", but the War Department insisted and he obeyed. His wife occasionally came to visit. During his three years at West Point, Brevet Colonel Robert E. Lee improved the buildings and courses and spent much time with the cadets. Lee's oldest son, George Washington Custis Lee, attended West Point during his tenure. Custis Lee graduated in 1854, first in his class.[55]"
Trump: "Dammit John, I can't get this nuclear launch button to work."
ReplyDeleteKelly: "Donald, you have to turn this key first."
BOOM ... we all going to die
i hope some smart person gave dumpt the wrong codes. OBAMA PLEASE.
DeleteI'm going to get slammed for this. That's fine. Slam away.
ReplyDeleteI think Kelly is mirroring DJT so that he can stay in the position he's in. I think he's a Patriot and that he's doing his damndest to hold the fort while Mueller ties up the loose ends. And I think he will say anything to protect our democracy.
And from a military point of view of armed conflict, I can find no fault with his words. I can't relitigate history, but if y'all want to, be my guest. Personally, I doubt any of you know how you would have felt if you'd been alive then. It's easy to pick a side looking through the prism of hindsight.
DJT is a traitor and he is done. US Intelligence and Five Eyes have him dead to rights. ADX Florence is his future home.
But y'all bicker over the shit that doesn't matter in the long run and turn a blind eye to how Russia bought DJT, Facebook and Twitter to divide us. We are Americans.
Country over bullshit distractions.
GeorgiaPeach
we may all be Americans, Peachy, but we all don't think alike. i live in a small Wisconsin city. we have gangs who came from south and you better be ready to run because some carry guns and pit bulls. we have yellow, black, red, brown and white, and trust me, you don't want to go to that part of town because if you are the wrong colour, you are toast. we had two black men fight with knifes in the parking lot of our store. you don't know who to trust any more. there is no wishing it away.
DeleteKelly is a plant, really. Anyway, I agree that Donald dump is the problem and Lock Him Up. Donald and his stupid spawn. Lock Them All Up!
DeleteThis does matter. Your view of Kelly is infantile and you are free to voice support for fighting to keep human beings enslaved but you're wrong on both.
DeleteKelly is running the White House and he is a racist, a sexist , and an idiot. It matters just as much as any other issue, Russia included. Mueller btw seems to have the Russia issue well in hand.
was his comment that Lee left his country to fight for his state, or words to that effect an euphemism for traitor. Biggest mistake of the Civil War was that the southern leadership were not one and all hung for treason. That mistake,of mercy has left the festering pile of shit we live with today.
ReplyDelete"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States." YEP
DeleteEnslavement today can happen in many ways and forms. The civil war history was written. We don't have to debate it. We don't have to agree. The Union vs Confederates. Slavery ended, everyone equal and vote. Turn the page.
ReplyDeleteYou have to understand the South. One of my Husbands ancestors was named, States Rights Guest.
ReplyDeleteTo this day they will claim it's a matter of states rights and slavery was not the issue. The South will never admit anything else. The civil war caused a great divide that still lingers.
And maybe, just MAYBE, they’ll realize that the Jesus they pray to was not a white boy.
Delete@6:27, I was in the Military(Drafted) in the South, and those 'whites only' signs were difficult to understand. Was that States Rights too?
Deletethey eat too much butter and sugar. kills their brain cells. i had many choices to go on my one and only adventure of a life time. my sisters wanted me to travel south. unlike trump, i am a smart person and went to England, where this kind of stuff isn't a matter of pride.
Deleteslave owners came from england to colonize and make gobs of money for the king. don't kid yourself.
DeleteAnd here I originally thought that Kelly was going to ride herd. Boy was I wrong....and stupid.
ReplyDeletemany were fooled, so don't feel bad. sometimes you learn things the hard way.
DeletePerhaps Kelly decided to say this ridiculous antiquated Civil War bullshit to try to change the news stories from Manafort & Papadopoulos to the confederacy bullshit. Much safer for Trump. His base loves that shit.
ReplyDeleteAnd of course slavery neeeever existed in the north.... even well beyond when it was supposedly ended.....
ReplyDeleteFools. None of you lived then. None of you lived in that time. None of you fools were stuck on one side or the other. None of you fools have any understanding of the civil war IN THE LEAST, other than to misuse it as a modern day talking point to push an agenda. There is no wonder why the liberals are getting called out left and right for their utter stupidity.
Now THERE’S some irony!
DeleteActually, I consider myself a liberal. And I'll be more than happy to match wits with you any day. Bring it on. Maybe liberals are being called out, but conservatives are being indicted.
DeleteGeorgiaPeach
And in an effort to expand your education,
https://www.justice.gov/sco
Here's the website of Mueller's Special Counsel, laying out the indictments that are going to send some "brilliant" conservative traitors to prison for a very long time. And there are many more to come.
@6:59 PM Apparently your grand parents never told you about what was happening in those days. Some of us have written proof and photos of lynchings, rapes, and assaults for merely laughing. Have you heard of the laughing barrels in the South? If a black man wanted to laugh while walking on the street, he was supposed to stick his head in a barrel. In the 1960s there were still 'whites only' signs posted at restaurants, bus terminals, and in neighborhoods. But you would not know about those racist rules.
Delete7:44, guess slave trading and slavery occurring well beyond the apparent 'end' in the north never happened eh? The north never had slaves? The families in the north never had slaves? Lincoln's family never had slaves? And of course to you... the Civil War was only about slavery. Keep trying to rewrite history for your modern day politics and keep getting called out. Slavery is a bad mark on this country and every other civilization on earth. Every skin color that has ever existed has been subject to slavery.
DeleteDoes slavery exist today in this country? Has anyone alive in this country ever been a slave? Are we not all protected by the same laws no matter what we look like?
Keep pushing the race divide! See how that works for the Democrats in the future. The world and workforce is moving on and accepting people of all cultures and colors, even though the Democratic Party desires to keep ownership of black persons. It is like it is all they have left.
Some of us do understand
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98CxkS0vzB8
Strange Fruit by Billie Holiday- Lynching in the 1930s
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DeleteIrony is beyond that dope. I've seen it post on other threads. It's very distinctive... and clueless.
Correct, 8:13 pm
DeleteKelly learned his racism growing up in Boston.
Kelly exposed himself as a racist white power cluck. A disgrace to the Corps and to the uniform.
ReplyDeletei'm sure there were but that doesn't make it right. slavery is so wrong i can't even discuss it. how many "good people" died over it?
ReplyDeletei am very disappointed. i was hoping for ONE intelligent person in the White House.
ReplyDeletebub, i studied it in college, where the smart people hang out. i also studied WW2, where people like you killed 6 million Jews. and that's just Jews. grow up and either make sense or find another site to hang around on. oh, that's right, all the nazi's sites have been removed because they were hurting people. and trump is the stupidest asshat on the planet. doesn't know a damn thing an talks on the level of a FOURTH grader. but he's smarter than you,bub.
ReplyDeleteMug$hot?
ReplyDeleteElections have consequences
ReplyDeleteThis man obviously didn't take his oath of allegiance to the USA seriously, as did his boss the Cheeto-faced Twatwaffle, which is to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic--which now apparently includes him.
ReplyDeleteR.E. Lee was a traitor to his country, his oath, and to the world.
Both are racist pr#/ks. Even if halved the US and move all people of color to one side, there would still be some low life in all white supremists side.
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