Saturday, November 04, 2017

So apparently today begins the Civil War 2.0. Or not.

Courtesy of The Guardian:

If you are inside the “alt-right” information bubble, you might be preparing yourself for a civil war to commence this Saturday. 

Since late September, the idea has been circulating on Facebook groups, subreddit message boards, Twitter, and leading conspiracy media outlets that on 4 November, anti-fascist groups will begin a violent insurrection. 

Some websites are telling their readers that antifa groups are “planning to kill every single Trump voter, Conservative and gun owner” this weekend. Hundreds of Facebook posts show how seriously consumers of such media are taking the news, and comments like “One more threat against white people and I swear to God I’m going to take a goddamn car and run over every fucking one of them” are not unrepresentative of the response. 

But antifa groups have no plans to protest that day, and the small leftist groups who are planning protests have only dubious connections to the antifa movement. So what gives? 

Beginning in late September, three things kicked it a into higher gear. First, Refuse Fascism, a small group linked to the Revolutionary Communist party, staged a visually spectacular protest in Los Angeles. They blocked the 101 freeway and held up signs that enigmatically spelled out “Nov 4 it begins”. This is the same group that is organizing a series of protests around the country against the “Trump-Pence regime” this weekend. 

Second, a video posted on a Facebook page called Vets Before Illegals went viral. The video, entitled “Antifa sets a date for civil war”, claimed that “on their website, they are calling for an open civil war that will start in November”, and set out alleged plans for attacking police officers, then citizens and the government. 

Last, but by no means least, the rumor was picked up and amplified by Alex Jones, the radio star with an audience of millions. As Sunshine explains, Jones “is a kind of meta-conspiracy theorist now” who “harvests other people’s theories” and repackages them to fit his narratives and his audience.

Good old Alex"I never met a conspiracy theory I didn't like" Jones.

So helpful isn't he? 

There was also a report from Gateway Pundit based on a bad joke written on a Twitter account, with no actual connection to the antifa movement, which claimed that on November 4th  a leader of that movement promised to "behead white parents."

Now my first thought is that this is much ado about nothing , and that there will likely be NO actual armed conflicts or violence today. Especially since there do not seem to be many protests actually available for these wingnuts to flip out over. 

However this could also be a dry run just to see now many people can be agitated in anticipation for a REAL call for violence against a larger antifa, or progressive protest.

That could easily result in a number of fatalities, which I would assume is the whole goal here.

I would also like to know if the Russians are involved in promoting this thing, since it sounds like it is right up their alley.

The major message to take away from all of this, is that people are incredibly high strung right now, and in all honesty it would only take a small spark to ignite a very real, and very dangerous civil war in this country.

It behooves all of us to watch our rhetoric and to make sure that while we are expressing our very reasonable anger and outrage, that we are not also giving others an excuse to turn to violence.

30 comments:

  1. Anonymous6:26 AM

    That bunch of lilywhite chickenshits talks a good game but when push comes to shove they're all Alex Jones under the skin: just a big loud bag of farts.

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    1. Anonymous8:41 AM

      I guess you didn't read Gryph's last sentence.

      It behooves all of us to watch our rhetoric and to make sure that while we are expressing our very reasonable anger and outrage, that we are not also giving others an excuse to turn to violence.

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    2. Anonymous9:23 AM

      https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/maher-while-trump-distracts-us-with-his-bullsht-the-asshles-in-his-administration-do-horrible-things-everyday/

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    3. Anonymous9:54 AM

      @9:23 LIfEtime federal judgeship$

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  2. Anonymous7:06 AM

    I cannot even fathom the mindset of "they're out to get me" and constantly looking over your shoulder, need bigger guns to protect myself, let alone those who amp it up to fever pitch. In the name of the LORD. Holy CRAP.

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  3. Anonymous7:21 AM

    Oh damn, was that today? And I had so much I wanted to do to prepare: rolling bandages, collecting leeches, ordering chloroform, sharpening my saws...

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  4. I'm sorry, but there's a big sale at Kohl's and I GOT to get to Costco for some dog food, so if you're going to have a bloodbath, could you schedule it for another day???

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  5. Anonymous8:00 AM

    TRAITOR! "Flynn followed the accounts Jenn_Abrams, LauraBaeley, Pamela_Moore13, SouthLoneStar, and Ten_GOP. Baeley, Abrams and Moore falsely claimed they were female American Trump supporters. SouthLoneStar claimed it was an account by a “Proud Texan and American Patriot” who featured “Islam is against Western culture” in its Twitter bio." LOCK HIM UP.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-flynn-followed-russian-troll-accounts-pushed-their-messages-in-days-before-election

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    1. It’s a sad commentary on our military when someone so stupid and gullible can attain the rank of General.

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  6. Anonymous8:03 AM

    “Labor force shortages are tied to population declines and labor force shortages are a limiting factor in economic growth, and limited economic growth poses a problem when government tries to pay for public services infrastructure,” Rep. Allen claimed. “In spite of this Mr. Speaker, ironically, the Democrats continue their effort to support the ABORTION INDUSTRY”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/watch-wisconsin-goper-insists-women-need-to-stop-having-abortions-because-businesses-need-more-workers/

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  7. Anonymous8:19 AM

    Fuckin' Facebook idiots.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/358757-facebook-estimates-200-million-users-may-be-fake-report?amp

    Mueller Monday comin' down.

    GeorgiaPeach

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  8. Anonymous8:23 AM

    Sound familier?"“This individual was status-driven, based on how he liked to be recognized in the casino environment and how he liked to be recognized by his friends and family.
    "On Thursday, more than a dozen news organizations, including the Associated Press, Los Angeles Times, ABC News, CNN and the Las Vegas Review Journal, filed two lawsuits, one seeking access to audio of 911 calls, body camera video and other still undisclosed police records related to the shooting and the other seeking to unseal court papers related to search warrants connected to the investigation, including any served on Mandalay Bay."
    "Stephen Paddock was a successful real estate investor and prolific gambler"Police still have no clear answer for why Paddock stopped shooting. According to Lombardo, the gunman still had 4,000 rounds of ammunition left in his room when he killed himself."“I actually hope we find something in the pathology of his brain that will help us understand this,”" Almost happened in Fairbanks...

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/portrait-las-vegas-gunman-narcissist-losing-streak-120720948.html

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    1. Anonymous8:35 AM

      https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/man-who-killed-three-in-colorado-walmart-was-angry-loner-with-no-furniture-but-stacks-of-bibles/

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  9. Anonymous8:45 AM

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/coal-miners-are-refusing-to-learn-new-job-skills-because-of-their-faith-in-trump/

    "“We’re going to bring the coal industry back 100 percent,” Donald Trump told a Virginia audience of campaign supporters in 2016. At another rally in West Virginia, Trump announced, “Miners, get ready, because you’re going to be working your asses off.”" what NO I?

    "Across the region, many former coal workers are turning down federal and state job training opportunities that could lead to new jobs and steady incomes."Sylvester signed up for a coal mining course.

    “I think there is a coal comeback,” Sylvester told Volcovici.

    Two brothers, Steve and Sean Moodie, echoed the same misplaced faith. “I am optimistic that you can make a good career out of coal for the next 50 years,” Sean told Volcovici." {they will be dead by then dontcha know?}

    "“I’ve suggested to Mr. Trump that he temper his expectations,” Murray told the news outlet, adding that coal industry employment “can’t be brought back to where it was before the election of Barack Obama.”"Even Trump’s chief economic adviser and director of the National Economic Council Gary Cohen has spoken about the superiority of other energy forms compared to coal.

    “Coal doesn’t even make that much sense anymore as a feedstock,” Cohn told CNN Money back in May. “If you think about how [much] solar and how much wind power we’ve created in the United States, we can be a manufacturing powerhouse and still be environmentally friendly.”"
    Here is the I in Sylvester>
    “I have a lot of faith in President Trump.”

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    1. Anonymous9:35 AM

      Because fossil fuels prevent sexual assault.

      Eye Roll Troll

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    2. Even China is going green. Who does Trump think they’re going to sell the coal to?

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  10. Anonymous9:07 AM

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2017/11/03/why_a_conspiracy_about_antifa_starting_a_civil_war_saturday_won_t_go_away.html

    Je$u$ Bull$hit>which is advising that people have buckets of water and sand ready to put out fires from antifa. Even the Gateway Pundit, a White House-credentialed pro-Trump blog, has helped spread the rumors of antifa beheadings." This is a guy who seems like he could really have police intel—and he says antifa is coming in November.”He has also purchased a Lamborghini with recently-acquired funds capitalizing on the video's success. “I’m not sure how I became the poster boy for this,” he said. “The video that went viral was me talking about information I had seen on some websites. ... It is not from any official agency.”
    " Now looking to distance himself from the phenomenon, he wants to focus his efforts on combating cyber bullying. (The website that Peltz set up after his video went viral, called nazi-donkeys.com, has information both on suicides caused by cyberbullying as well as content ridiculing female “SJW’s”—social justice warriors—and “crossdressing leftists.” He claimed to me that he is thinking about changing the name of the site and directing more of the content towards combatting cyberbullying.)" But>
    "Twitter users shared the jokes as proof of the violent intentions of the left, and Nelson was temporarily suspended from the platform. The lies and misinformation that have sprouted show us how a conspiracy-inclined community can turn benign plans and a random YouTube video into a plot against the country."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society

    REMEMBER THIS VIDEO? BENGHAZI BENGHAZI BENGHAZI

    Watch and learn: In the Beginning...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGsFHAO0pMA&bpctr=1509816913

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  11. Anonymous9:27 AM

    OT? "Banks explained. “What he saw in Donald Trump was to take all the things that worked with Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan and he saw Trump had the ability to turn it all into a great tweet and to modernize it.”

    “He saw his charisma and over the years helped teach him the methods to turn that charisma into the presidency,”
    "“Roger Stone has also done work in the Ukraine,” he added. “[Former Trump aide] Michael Caputo has also done work in the Ukraine working for Boris Yeltsin. That is their new bread and butter,” CRIMEa!

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/roger-stone-documentary-makers-reveal-how-gop-consultant-molded-trump-into-the-new-nixon/

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  12. Anonymous9:40 AM

    I think Russia is behind this. Alex Jones, Faux news, Trump. Russia is not going to go half way but all the way.
    And when he has his second two hour private meeting with Trump, then the puppet will return to the US and sow more of what Putin tells him to. It's almost predictable at this time.

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    1. Anonymous2:48 PM

      Century of planning. Shrug.

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  13. Anonymous10:11 AM

    IRIS is using Russian ISPs to recruit, they are probable behind this also. Putin isn't done with getting his revenge.

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    1. Anonymous11:02 AM

      https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/putins-revenge/

      "Putin isn't done with getting his revenge."<YOU
      got that RIGHT!

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    2. Anonymous2:49 PM

      Why? Found out no money? Waa!

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  14. Just a couple years ago. Obama used joint military operations to take over Texas and haul all Texans to shuttered WalMart stores where the Chines had dug tunnels and Texans were to be turned over to the tender mercies of the Chinese.

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    1. Anonymous11:06 AM

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11745220/No-signs-of-military-takeover-in-Texas-as-Jade-Helm-exercises-begin.html

      'Obama used joint military operations to take over Texas and haul all Texans to shuttered Walmart stores'
      16July2015

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    2. Anonymous3:00 AM

      According to the Alex Jones YouTube show, it was only Christians (read 'white people') who were to be rounded up. Because, think about it, Walmart has everything you need to survive. I listened to this while waiting for medical treatment in Houston in December 2015.

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  15. Anonymous11:24 AM

    OT:
    "Los Angeles officials named Nov. 3 “Selena Day.”
    EXCEPCIONAL!

    http://time.com/5010432/where-is-selena-quintanilla-star-in-hollywood/

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  16. Anonymous1:09 PM

    Here it is 5:00 PM Saturday on the East. Coast. Opening day of muzzleloader deer season in my Virginia county. Lots of gunshots in the woods behind my property - maybe the. I I’ll war started here? Or is it just my neighbor Vance scaring the deer?

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  17. Anonymous2:45 PM

    People in America had a good life going and then they got bored. Decided it's better to fight than work out solutions. That means we got lazy. And then crazy.
    Aside from Obama being black he also challenged people to work their minds on how to solve our problems but no one wants to do that these days. We've been spoiled by the culture for instant gratification. These people want war? Haven't they been watching how horrible war is in Syria, and Iraq? Children and women are paying the price. And we know that rich people are behind all of this. So please, everyone needs to calm down and let's approach problems with a different mindset other than taking down our neighbors. And let's not forget that those that are trying to ram down people with trucks, guns, and knives may have some serious mental illness that Donald Trump may be inciting with his daily hate and anti American rhetoric. In the last 10 months, I have never heard that man say anything positive about an American. Only Putin gets his praise. What does Putin stand to get when all is said and done?

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  18. WA Skeptic3:02 PM

    Man, I missed the beheadings. Drat.

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