Saturday, October 17, 2009

Here is the report from Friends of Democracy Corps and Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research that attempted to determine why the GOP base hates Obama.

The self-identifying conservative Republicans who make up the base of the Republican Party stand a world apart from the rest of America, according to focus groups conducted by DemocracyCorps. These base Republican voters dislike Barack Obama to be sure – which is not very surprising as base Democrats had few positive things to say about George Bush – but these voters identify themselves as part of a ‘mocked’ minority with a set of shared beliefs and knowledge,and commitment to oppose Obama that sets them apart from the majority in the country. They believe Obama is ruthlessly advancing a ‘secret agenda’ to bankrupt the United States and dramatically expand government control to an extent nothing short of socialism. While these voters are disdainful of a Republican Party they view to have failed in its mission, they overwhelmingly view a successful Obama presidency as the destruction of this country’s founding principles and are committed to seeing the president fail.

"Committed to seeing the President fail", I am sorry but that statement alone sets these "teabaggers" apart from any Democratic frustration at George W. Bush of which I am aware. We well knew that when the President fails, the country fails.

First and foremost, these conservative Republican voters believe Obama is deliberately and ruthlessly advancing a ‘secret agenda’ to bankrupt our country and dramatically expand government control over all aspects of our daily lives. They view this effort in sweeping terms, and cast a successful Obama presidency as the destruction of the United States as it was conceived by our founders and developed over the past 200 years.

In other words he is not going to stick to our revered history of oppressing the minorities and furthering the interests of big business (ie WHITE business), as was done by almost every President before him.

This concern combines with a profound sense of collective identity. In our conversations, it was striking how these voters constantly characterized themselves as part of a group of individuals who share a set of beliefs, a unique knowledge, and a commitment of opposition to Obama that sets them apart from the majority of the country. They readily identify themselves as a minority in this country – a minority whose values are mocked and attacked by a liberal media and class of elites. They also believe they possess a level of knowledge and understanding when it comes to politics and current events, one gained from a rejection of the mainstream media and an embrace of conservative media and pundits such as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, which sets them apart even more. Further, they believe this position leaves them with a responsibility to spread the word, to educate those who do not share their insights, and to take back the country that they love. (Did you catch the evangelical slant in their way of thinking?)Their faith in this country and its ideals leave them confident that their numbers will grow, and that they will ultimately defeat Barack Obama and the shadowy forces driving his hidden agenda.

This last paragraph is very important. It illustrates the kind of mindset that one might find in the citizens of a country which is being occupied by hostile forces, such as France during World War 2. In those circumstances a kind of fervent nationalism bonds the countrymen together and they become desperate to expunge the invaders from their country.

But in this instance these people are responding, not to an invader, but a duly elected President who they fundamentally disagree with. How did THAT evolve into the kind of persecuted desperation that we see today? The answer of course is simple.

Fox News.

The cable news channel has done everything in its power to make its viewers feel marginalized and oppressed. Have you noticed how many of their programs and books have the word "America" in their titles? The Fox program "Sean Hannity's America". Glenn Beck's book "The Real America: Messages From The Heart and Heartland". Bill O'Reilly's transparent attempt to rape our children's minds with his book " Kids Are Americans Too". (Of course they are, who in the hell would suggest otherwise?)

And in the background there is always a flag waving and the implied message that THIS is the REAL America. And that every other news outlet is against THEIR America.

The result of that intense indoctrination is reflected in this next portion of the report.

Their feelings toward Obama are not simply a reflection of intense partisan differences. They are actively rooting for Obama to fail as president because they believe he is not acting in good faith as the leader of our country. Only 6 percent of these conservative Republican base voters say that Obama is on their side, and our groups showed that they explicitly believe he is purposely and ruthlessly executing a hidden agenda to weaken and ultimately destroy the foundations of our country.

These conservative Republican base voters were not just shooting off half-cocked theories about conspiracies. They actively believe President Obama is purposely lying about his plans for the country and what his policies would do, and that he is exaggerating the threats America faces in order to create support for his policies. A key component to this deception is a pattern of always telling people what they want to hear, regardless of the truth.

The part that really struck me about these two paragraphs is that they almost perfectly reflect the kind of paranoia that I felt about George W. Bush during his second term.

I also felt that there was a hidden agenda and that his stated reasons for doing things were not truthful. Of course in that case we had the evidence behind the Valerie Plame case, the Downing Street Memo's, the lack of WMD's in Iraq, and the fact that the administration engaged in Domestic Spying. It is almost like the teabaggers have taken our very legitimate fears of an out of control administration circa 2001 to 2008, and applied them, without alteration, to the brand new Obama administration.

That is OUR fear and outrage. NOTHING President Obama has done comes anywhere close to the kinds of criminal and treasonous behavior we saw in President Bush and his administration, and yet these people are angered enough to take to the streets repeatedly in protest. WTF?

Just listen to THIS description of President Obama.

Conservative Republicans do not oppose Obama’s policies simply because they think they are misguided or out of partisan fervor. Rather, they believe his policies are purposely designed to fail. When they look at the totality of his agenda, they see a deliberate effort to drive our country so deep into debt, to make the majority of Americans so dependent on the government, and to strip away so many basic constitutional rights that we are too weak to fight back and have to accept whatever solution he proposes. The numbers from our database also demonstrate this belief – 92 percent of these voters believe Obama is a “big spender” and only 17 percent believe he has good plans for the economy.

WHO are they describing again? It is almost like they saw all of this happening for the last eight years but could not bring themselves to blame it on THEIR guy. So they held their tongues for all of that time waiting for a Democrat to take office so that they could finally exhale and start bitching about the state of their country. The fact that it was a black guy is just frosting on their hypocritical hate-filled cupcake.

I disagree with the fundamental findings of this study which goes out of it's way to say that this fear and suspicion is not racially motivated. Wrong!

Just because these yahoo's do not want to go on record as being racists, certainly does not mean that it is not the driving force behind their anger. In their eyes they went from running the country, to being left out of the running of the country. From being in power, to being out of power. To being the majority, to becoming the NEW minority.

Yes, they see themselves as the minority. The oppressed. The downtrodden. And WHO suddenly made the white men, the founder's of this country, the master's of this nation, into second class citizens? A black man!

And you believe that racism is not the fuel that lights a fire under these whackjobs? Then you my friends are fooling yourselves.

I understand that the people behind this study do NOT want to identify the Republican base as racists. That may put an end to the ability to engage with this group of citizens in the future. Name calling can definitely be a conversation killer.

But here is the thing. Crazy people are also very offended if you refer to them as crazy. However just because you do not label them crazy, it does not make them any more sane. And not calling racists, "racist", will also not make them suddenly want to celebrate Kwanzaa and buy a bunch of Kanye West records. And if the Democrats believe that not referring to these hoodless KKK members as racist will make one bit of difference to them, then perhaps it is the Democratic party who is really crazy.

(Click the title to read the entire report.)


  1. Some of you may notice that the New Rules post is no longer here.

    I hoped that using Metacafe would mean that HBO would not have the video removed, but I was incorrect.

  2. If they weren't damnfools, they wouldn't be mocked. The fact that they believe themselves separate, set apart, gifted with special knowledge, means they're paranoid. And we do want to "get" them- with education, with knowledge, with judgment.

    I suppose identifying the problem is the first step to solving it. Otherwise I don't see where we're much forwarder.

    As far as Obama goes, and I do support him, I think he's so invested in being the nonthreatening Black Man that he's not going to achieve as much as he should. And I don't think that'll achieve much in race relations. There is nothing he can do that will make them not hate him; there is nothing he can do that will make Republicans cooperate. He should be pitching to Dems and progressives and independents that we can move ahead on our own- we're strong enough.

    My son's first grade teacher told me she taught to the top third. The middle third, she said, got it after a bit. And you just drag the bottom third along. That's what we need to do. Although I admit "bottom third" is unfortunate language choice.

  3. Anonymous8:56 AM

    I agree with a post on another blog I read this morning. We should be taking these teabaggers/crazy people somewhat seriously and calling them by their true identity: seditionists.

  4. Anonymous9:00 AM

    For all the talk and posts about Palins bad policies on aerial wolf hunting, I wish you would write about the tragic death of Palins fiercest foe, Gordon Haber.

  5. Anonymous9:03 AM

    Classic "projection". Their bunch ran our country into the ground, and instead of taking responsibility, they point the finger at others and make a lot of wild accusations.

    I think the GOP is haveing a kind of a mental breakdown, because having been in power the last eight years, not one of their plans has been anything but a disaster, and they can't bear to take a look in the mirror and ask why that is.

  6. Since most of the people interviewed were southerners, and I've lived my entire life in the South while being African American, I can say, due to experience, that much of the opposition to President Obama is based on racism. In my city every time an article is written about the president, his family, or his policies, there are more racist comments than there are comments that defend him. The kids in a city nearby celebrated National Hispanic Month on Friday. The article reporting on the event was published in today's online version of the paper. The comments were awful. 99% of the comments were negative, and any sane person could not miss the racism expressed in them. Erick Erickson is on the city council where I live, and most people here have the same attitude and say/believe the same things about President Obama that he does. That should tell you all you need to know about whether most southern white opposition to the president is based on racism or not.

  7. Anonymous9:14 AM

    Does anyone else find it strange that although the Birthers are constantly making fraudelent charges against the validity of President Obama's citizenship, very few people have challenged the validity of Rupert Murdoch's store-bought US citizenship? Isn't this odd?

    Hell, even Wikipedia states (without any challenges) that " On September 4, 1985, Murdoch became a naturalized citizen in order to satisfy the legal requirement that only US citizens were permitted to own American television stations."

    Compare the relationship of the Republicangelicals 20% Club to FOX News in the USA to the profiles of his news companies in other parts of the world -- it is obvious that Rupert is looking to score World Dominance for the conservatives of the world.

    for 25 years we have been under psychological, econnomic, and political attack by an Australian fascist. Murdoch's unprecedented global jingoism has whipped a large portion of the conservative American public up into a frenzy that could easily spill over into violence and acts of treason.

    Murdoch should be charged with sedition, and his News Corporation dismantled.

  8. Anonymous9:21 AM

    I looked up Becks "The Real America" and see that it was published before her rants about "real America" on the campaign trail. One more clue as to the sort of reading material she was afraid to tell Katie Couric about? Maybe she only reads the title.

    Anyway, there must be a place at the intersection of Glenn Beck's "White Culture" and Sarah Palin's "Real America" where those people described in the study would be comfortable; a place right out of the "Twilight Zone." If she ever gets elected, it will be the beginning of this great country's twilight era; it will be "Night In America."

  9. Anonymous9:23 AM

    "Hypocritical hate-filled cupcake"


  10. Anonymous9:35 AM

    They believe that paying less than $6000 a year in taxes makes them 'slaves' but that paying $12,000 a year for health insurance makes them 'liberated'.

    I just don't get these people.

  11. SoCalWolfGal9:36 AM

    Whether you call them racists, which they, are or seditionists, which most of them well could be, they are a real threat to our President and our country. Please read the article on Nalinpalinnow about the Christian Taliban and their all out effort to get Frank Schaeffer, author of "Crazy for God". The White House thinks it is not safe for Michelle Obama to travel to SOUTH CAROLINA! People, it is going to get a lot nastier, and a hell of a lot more dangerous.

  12. Sorry, but I truly believe many of these crazies wouldn't think this way if Obama was white. The fact that the president is a Democrat would still incite hatred among some of the base. But not to the extent it is now. Nor to the intensity.

    I'm still holding my breath waiting for the report of an attempted assasination by a white, male, teabagging, Talibangelical.

  13. Anonymous10:26 AM

    Excellent blog Gryphen, and I'm assuming that everything that wasn't in italics was yours. Time will tell whether or not this sort of thoughtful work by you will pay off but here's hoping. Without this sort of posting the site is worthless.

    Sarah Q.

  14. Anonymous10:51 AM

    While most of the right's claims are nothing but paranoia there still remain some of it that is not. Below is a quote from the report:

    "They believe Obama is ruthlessly advancing a ‘secret agenda’ to bankrupt the United States and dramatically expand government control to an extent nothing short of socialism."

    Deliberately bankrupting the US is of course nothing but paranoia but the mention of socialism is not. So I'll explain from a Canadian's POV. We Canadians don't see ourselves as socialists but unfortunately many Americans do. We see ourselves as promoting a capitalist system which needs to be capable of understanding it's social responsibilities toward the people. Yet in a way Americans are right about Canada because we differ in our fundamental beliefs. Not in a small part but in a very significant part. The word 'socialism' is still a somewhat dirty word in Canada and we would never accept being placed under that description. Many Americans now, and most in the not so distant past would gladly label us as socialists.

    My point is: Make no mistake Americans, you are going to have to become somewhat socialist yourselves in order to bring about the change you need. And so in that respect the political right in America is at least somewhat correct. It is a simple fact that your brand of crass and irresponsible capitalism is failing you and will fail you completely in this modern competitive world.

    And so when above, the right claims that Obama is attempting to change America from what is has been for over 200 years, they are again at least partially right. This is not the sort of change to be fearful of, but rather the sort of change which is inevitable and so desperately needed for a prospering and successful future for the huge majority of ordinary people who make up your citizenry.

    The political right is very afraid and the reason why they are afraid is because it's no secret that they are on the verge of having to share some of the enormous wealth your wonderful country has to offer it's people.

    I've mentioned before and I will mention again a great prophetic book, 'A Declaration of Interdependence', by Will Hutton. Absolutely mandatory reading for anyone who wants to be able to understand what is happening in America today. Will Hutton told about it all at least 5 years before it happened. Get it Gryphen and anyone else who wants to completely understand the political scene in the US today.

    Luv from Canada!

  15. These people are so sickening (being polite. - President Obama won't be able to get the whole country back on track in just four or eight years, but his election and the internet has brought all the sedition personalities to light. They have always been around, right? Now we can see them better. It may be a good thing to get all this out in the open. President Obama isn't perfect and we won't always agree with him or Congress. I am still happy that he is president rather than McCain. Obama is what our country and world needs right now. I am thankful everyday for all who helped him get elected... Blessings to Everyone :-)

  16. Anonymous10:57 AM

    mlaiuppa, Don't hang your hat of the racism thing too much, it's not the primary problem the right is having with Obama. No doubt there is a lot of racism alive and well in your country but it's not the big factor. The big factor is the threat of social change and the fact that it is going to deprive some on the right of their proclaimed 'right' to earn something like 90+% of the wealth in their top 1 or 2%. As I have attempted to explain more completely in my above post.

    Luv from Canada.

  17. Anonymous11:28 AM

    Great post. This is the first time they have been defined. Who is behind these crazy paranoids? Murdoch, Rush & Beck. I would think Rush & Beck are more like puppets. Clearly the "brains" behind the mind control of these nitwits needs to be defined. Obama is in an awkward situation, if he says this movement in fueled by racism , being black, he opens up a whole can of worms & the rest of his presidency the "race issue" will be "the" issue. It seems like such a cynical control of racists & who gains certainly not them. I do wonder just how many "birthers" there are. What % of the repub party they make up.

  18. Obama is nothing more than a smooth talking con man. He has used 43 different social security #s and 143 different addresses. Not only that..He hides his personal info and has spent millions on attorneys to keep that info hidden.

    "He who has nothing to hide, hides nothing. He who hides everything is always Guilty"

  19. The post from Annella is meant to be funny, right? If not then please list all sources from which you gleaned such nonsensical information.

    I apologize in advance if I misinterpreted your attempt at humor...

  20. Anonymous12:17 PM

    Annella 11:28

    I bet he pals around with terrorists.

  21. Anonymous12:38 PM

    Annella @11:35, got any links for that? No?

    If not, you are just a lying libelous slanderer. Perhaps you should go look up defamation in a legal dictionary.

  22. Anonymous12:39 PM

    Oh Annella, Annella, Annella. 43 different social security numbers and 143 different addresses, huh?

    Well, for what it's worth, I went on line to check this out--I saw 27, 33, 37 and 39 as the number of social security numbers he has, but didn't see 43. You have apparently done some intense research and have come up with four more. I also saw claims about different addresses, but no further information was provided.

    So, if you want me (us) to believe you, or to even take you seriously, you should take the time to provide that information to us: List each and every number and the state where he proportedly lived when issued. Then, list every single one of those "143" addresses.

    This inquiring mind wants to know.

    Now, you be sure to get back with us, when you can provide valid evidence to support your claim, ya hear?

  23. Anonymous1:00 PM

    Luv from Canada

    My question is how the 3% of the very wealthy was able to hijack the "birthers" & turn them into such crazies. I read on another blog awhile back someone from Ireland said that middle & lower classes there would never buy into this sort of propaganda. Clearly these people don't have a lot of money or great health insurance & we have a president that is trying to get this for all americans. What has made this country susceptible to this manipulation? That's for the book info...will read.

  24. Anonymous1:40 PM

    Annella, we won. You lost. Why such a poor sport? :-(

  25. Annella @11:35 - I take it your sources are Orly Taitz and World Nut Daily, right? OMG, you need to get out more! I am sorry that the loons have led you to believe the lies and false information. But the fact that you are here gives me hope. Just keep reading, analyzing and use your God-given brain to figure out what is real and what is fear-mongering, hateful lunacy.
    You CAN do it, yes you can!

  26. Anonymous1:50 PM

    Ah...a birther. Annella: please provide any proof other than the rantings of Orly Taitz about eh SSNs and addresses. As for "spending millions," it's utterly false. That's a canard that keeps being repeated by the fools who buy into this nonsense but it's no more true because it's repeated. These are Justice Department attorneys who are required to represent federal employees when they are sued. It's what they get a salary for.

    As for the constant refrain about "why is he hiding it?" he already responded. Continuing to respond to your sort of drivel is a waste of time. And I have a sneaking suspicion that the majority of people view those of your viewpoint as so utterly laughable that by continuing to allow you to carry on, he's knowingly emphasizing your ignorance.

    I've been practicing law for 30 years. I've seen some incompetents but never of the sheer magnitude of Orly Taitz and the other lawyers pressing this birther silliness. Donna

  27. Anonymous2:22 PM


    Orally Taintz much?

  28. Anonymous2:27 PM

    Wow! Annella - I'll bet you are some crackerjack private detective or professional researcher to have uncovered this amazing information. We just know that you wouldn't be so irresponsible or stupid as to report something like that just because you heard it somewhere.

    BTW - care to share your documentation?

  29. Anonymous2:46 PM

    Great post, Gryphen, thanks for the info!

    Opposition towards President Obama is complex. Being a native Southerner, I would definitely agree there are racists against President Obama; but that's not the entire picture. The brainwashing by the Faux News Network plays a very important role, too. I read that the owner of that network built a home in China a couple of years ago; his wife is a Chinese communist. And then you have those fundamental extremists who want to take over as if they are the only true Christians. Like peeling an onion.

    Oh, and Annella @11:35, I would never vote for McCain, ever.


  30. SouthernMiss2:49 PM


    Would you mind sourcing your info from your post at 11:35, dear? And your ass doesn't count as a reliable source.

  31. Anonymous3:22 PM


    Come out come out where ever you are.

  32. Anonymous3:47 PM

    this reminds me of the political climate in GERMANY following their defeat in WW I, which brought their own CRAZIES up from the muck, including ADOLF.

    then, their opposition to the PROGRESSIVE WEIMER REPUBLIC, which brought the country out of their funk and improve the well being of all. THAT brought the CRAZIES to their own TEA-BAGGING frenzy.

    then comes the '29 depression, economic collapse and human misery / hardship; PLUS, a POLARIZED / INEFFICIENT GOVERNMENT and you get the 12-year NIGHTMARE of 1933-1945!

    just in case you have seen this list, i'll post it here. notice how many--if not all-- can define FOX and the TEA-BAGGERS:

    Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

    1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism

    2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights

    3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause

    4. Supremacy of the Military

    5. Rampant Sexism

    6. Controlled Mass Media

    7. Obsession with National Security

    8. Religion and Government are Intertwined

    9. Corporate Power is Protected

    10. Labor Power is Suppressed

    11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts

    12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment

    13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption

    14. Fraudulent Elections

  33. Anonymous5:38 PM

    Gryphen, this is so informative.

    I have not yet seen this report mentioned on other 'progressive' it okay if I paste your article out there?

    Still not clear on 'blogging good manners';)

  34. Go for it Anonymous 5:38.

    I first heard of this report on Hardball on Friday, and found the link to the actual report on Huffington Post. So this HAS been covered by some progressive media outlets.

  35. Anonymous at 3:47. I used to post that list regularly during the Bush administration.

    Is it any wonder these magical thinking keepers of the secret knowledge think they're so special when Rush Limbaugh repeatedly screams he hopes Obama fails and John L. Perry is encouraging treason?

    I still don't understand why some of these right wing whackjobs aren't arrested for sedition. If it was left wingers under Bush, he would have had their heads first and tried them in a kangaroo court later.

  36. Gasman11:50 PM

    What do these morons say when the numbers are not in their favor? If the stock market, say rises above 10,000, does that give them pause? What happens if the deficit begins to go down? What happens if and when all of Obama's numbers are better than W's best? Will they admit they were wrong? Hell no they won/t.

    We can only hope that the sudden inrush of reality will make their tiny little heads implodes.

    What moronic asshats. I damn near laughed out my spleen when I read that "They also believe they possess a level of knowledge and understanding when it comes to politics and current events, one gained from a rejection of the mainstream media...."

    And how do they gain such enlightenment, you might ask? By gorging upon the limitless 24 hour per day feast of fetid and festering sewage that constantly issues forth from the rancid anuses of Rupert Murdoch and Rush Limbaugh.

    Our only comfort is that these folks are exceedingly stupid.

  37. Gryphen,

    This is the scariest part of all:

    " They also believe they possess a level of knowledge and understanding when it comes to politics and current events, one gained from a rejection of the mainstream media and an embrace of conservative media and pundits such as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, which sets them apart even more."

    When average everyday people really believe Beck, Limpballs and the rest of them, then it's pretty bad. I don't believe that Beck et al really believe themselves a lot of times. They've stated numerous times that they say crazy shit just for the ratings. Ratings=money. Just like Palin, they don't care who they destroy or hurt chasing after that almighty dollar. (I think Palin believes most of her own crap, though. Except for the death panel lie. She knows damn well it's a lie.) Whoever gets the most attention (toys) wins!


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