Courtesy Raw Story:
Calling her comments “despicable and wrong,” Reid copped to writing some of the offense comments, but said she truly believed she did not write them all.
“A community I support and deeply care about is hurting because of despicable and truly offensive posts being attributed to me,” the somber Reid began. “Many of you have seen the blog posts circulating online and social media. Many of them are homophobic and discriminatory and hateful. When a friend found them and sent them to me, I was stunned. Frankly I couldn’t imagine where they came from and whose voice that was.”
“I spent a lot of time trying to make sense of the posts,” she continued. “I hired cyber security experts to see if somebody manipulated my words or former blog and the reality is they have not been able to prove it. But here’s what I do know: I generally do not believe I wrote those hateful things because they are completely alien to me, but I can definitely understand, based on things I have tweeted and I have written in the past, why some people don’t believe me. I’ve not been exempt from being dumb or cruel or hurtful to the very people I want to advocate for. I own that. I get it. And for that I am truly, truly story.”
I held off writing about this situation because to be honest I was not sure what to make of it.
The posts showing up on the internet, and being attributed to Reid, did not really fit my perception of her at all.
I am still not completely convinced that it was her.
Besides that I also went through something similar myself, after this blog gained a little infamy.
After the Splitsville story the Right Wing trolls went through my old posts forensically and found some that, taken out of context, did not paint a very flattering picture.
In my case most of the content was misrepresented, but there were a few things that I wrote, back when virtually NOBODY visited IM, that were truly impossible to completely defend.
They were the type of musings that one might jot down in a diary with the expectation that nobody would ever see them, but that is certainly not a mindset which translates well to the internet, where everything lives forever.
So that should serve as a lesson to us all, that we need to consider that the things we write on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and even the comment section of a blog, might one day be dredged up and used against us when we least expect it.
I think that Joy Reid is very admirable person, but there is a journey to arrive at the best version of ourselves, and sometimes those missteps along they way can trip us up even after we think we have already arrived.
Could be sabotage. She is an important voice on the left.
ReplyDeletePay back for Diamond and Silk being banned from Facebook?
DeleteI believe this is all too true; look at how important voices are being silenced on the opposite side of Trump's group. First Franken, then Rose, now Joy...
DeleteThese bastards will stop at nothing.
Are the Ruskis funding all this expensive dirt-digging-up? The GOP? BOTH?
DeleteI'm not sure it's dirt-digging-up as much as bomb planting. I'm pretty sure that Al Franken never did a thing wrong, ever- but that doesn't matter, because Kirsten Gillibrand opened her idiot yap and their dirty work for them.
DeleteAnd nobody who was in a position to told her to STFU.
It's no surprise that when the Right find some little crumb on a molehill they inevitably make a mountain of shit out of it- because Democrats are so predictable.
11;41; but hey, it's not like you hate women or anything. You're not an incel, are you? Or maybe you are...
Delete3:16 AM, quite a leap you took there.
DeleteAt least you're not stlouisix on c4p, Gryph, he walks on water! Even e-mails the English parliament on how wrong they are, citizen or not. I highly doubt that he apologizes for anything. Include M Jospeh Sheppard in that mix. I'll take you any time. :)
ReplyDeleteYou really need to reevaluate your life if you're spending any time on c4p.
DeleteKeep your enemies closer, 4:33 PM. They are a fascination with the golden calf worshipping of their queen. Pure entertainment.
DeleteToss her down a mine shaft.
DeleteI pop in there once every few days but after a couple of minutes of their psychosis I generally quit. They truly are the most disgusting little group I've ever encountered. Even Sarah Palin doesn't have anything to do with them.
Delete2:01 ZM - if that site is the definition of God-fearing Christians, no THANKS.
DeleteOT but I have a question.
ReplyDeleteThis bullshit about 60 women signing a letter of support for Tom Brokaw.... does it say "he never groped me so those other women are obviously lying", or does it say "he never groped me so he wasn't all bad"?
And where were all the women supporting Al Franken?
At least no one can accuse Fred Rogers because he's dead.
Delete4:53 - That hasn’t stopped them. Haven’t you heard the sniper story?
Delete4:41. I think there is more of a defense for Brokaw because people are just realizing that these are intended hit jobs.
DeleteUnlike Bill O'Rielly, Ailes, and Trump, and Wienstien who were really doing the deed, these people had some unfortunate incidents and women from the Right were called to bring it forth.
I mean look at Trump. There has been tons of stuff he has done and the Republican party just yawns and pats him on the back. But when Al Franken tried to be funny years back, he had no idea what the future held.
Now, I say this. Even us, the average American will be held accountable for what we say if we continue to allow Putin to run our country. It's the only way he knows how to operate. Out of fear, blackmail and propaganda.
Do we want this? I don't.
At some point in time we need to fight back. We are Americans, dammit! Don't let our most beloved tradition of speaking our mind without fear of reprimand get taken by that bald headed bastard and his many minions.
Yes, the internet is forever and sometimes we all get a bit angry, tired and just need to blow off a little steam. There is also the selective editing the Fascist Right so embraces alá O’Keefe.
ReplyDeleteBut I also think it’s ludicrous to attack someone in their 30s for something written in a high school yearbook or the equivalent. We all grow as people and for some of us, what we believed and said in our teens have nothing to do with who we are decades later.
This isn’t about Reid but about the runaway train of attacking people for their past.
I’m not saying those that commited crimes should never have to pay for their actions. But I really can’t fault someone for something they said 20 or 30 years ago. Especially if there is overwhelming documentation that they are simply not that person any more.
Humpty Trumpty has brought out the worst in everyone.
DeleteHaphazard Humpty Trumpty.
Deletehttps://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/time-lawyer-alt-right-leader-richard-spencer-begs-money-pay-legal-bills/
DeleteThen Reid should say that, not lie about having done it or remembering whether she did it.
DeleteShe has really damaged her credibility by not owning up immediately.
6:14.
DeleteYou're assuming she did it.
Can you testify for certain whether something you wrote years ago was written by you or not? If you write a LOT, post on blogs, twitter, Facebook, comments, etc., can you swear whether or not you wrote something 10 or 20 years ago was really written by you?
Would you quickly own up and apologize for something you don't think you did?
Yes, this is all about damaging her credibility.
Just like they took out Al Franken.
Isn’t that the entire blogosphere every civil person knows and loathes? A place where bitter shrews and the worst men go to displace energy to get out frustrations regarding their pointless lives? I run a travel blog and even that is stupid.
ReplyDeleteOh. Now don't diss $arah like that. She's way worse!
DeleteOops ;-)
ReplyDeleteShe's a black woman that discriminates against gays; whites discriminate against blacks, blacks against whites, blah, blah, blah.
ReplyDeleteThe human citizens of this planet will never get along, there will always be discriminatory lines. It's okay, it's how we're wired.
Just like the BLM thing, it's mostly black people, of course it is, we draw our lines and support our causes but "all of the causes" are never going to come together across racial boundaries, and that is okay.
Joy can hate fags, blacks can hate whites and vice/versa. It's what makes us human.
FAGS~Ni&&ers~Honky Crackers~Kike< Words Matter.
DeleteLanguage is 'what makes us human'.
True Colors...
If anything separates us from the animals, it is prejudice and religion.
DeleteAnimals make tools, mourn, show compassion, have many traits the humans share.
But as far as I know, the don't have religion or senseless prejudice. Any animosity they have is based on survival, what is best for the family or group. It isn't simply "I don't like they way you look" or "You don't believe the same way I do."
What separates us from the animals? Hate. Baseless hate.
The reason I believe Joy when she says specific posts are alien to her is I watched a short video clip of former President Obama, only it wasn’t really him. With the advances in technology it is possible to make anyone say anything anyone wants.
ReplyDeleteIt’s dicey out there. We need to be aware and keep our wits about us. If something sounds too ‘good’ to be true, it most likely is.
Thank you for that. I am not a paranoid person, but what honestly can one believe anymore? This is MAGA????
DeleteI don't believe it. I think she was hacked. Joy has been a fair minded journalist. She can be direct but I would guess that she was hacked and blog was altered.
ReplyDeleteI believe she wrote and believed those things on her blog. People can change over time but the internet is forever. I'll sure she had said worse things too. But hey, go to confession or church and all is forgiven. It's the Xian way ya know.
Delete826 Joy admitted to writing certain posts and apologized for the harmful words. The other posts, ones unearthed recently are what trolls are focusing on now. Those posts do not pass the smell test as the tech exists to mask hacking efforts. Joy says the words are alien to her. I believe her.
DeleteGrey One talks sass...
DeleteHonestly wake up. She wrote the posts and is in full on damage control. lol. Gimme a break.
https://www.fundedjustice.com/Spencer-legal?ref=ab_7AwJIVfysVP7AwJIVfysVP
ReplyDeleteSaw a brief clip of trump ego rally,again there was the lone black behind him with the tshirt blacks for trump.
ReplyDeleteDoes this guy travel with him and how much is he paid.
Local democrats said trump is worried MI will go blue,since he barely won I would say if they russians are kicked out and next election isn't rigged,MI will go back to blue,especially since no one is seeing any benefit from his tax scam.
Forgot to add,they are still ranting lock her up,that's all he has and he is the one going to be locked up.
DeleteMy guess is Trump buses his crowd in every time with a few locals thrown in. Hope the WHCD pushes him over the edge. Also, my belief Al Franken and Joy Reid both set up. The republican Russian party is evil, vile, without a conscious, ruthless.
DeleteAnd you elected that. Shrug.
DeleteO/T - White House Correspondents' Association Dinner
ReplyDeleteTrump no show, again. The narcissistic wimp can't take criticism even in this venue. He struts and preens and attacks at some
'campaign' rally. The bullying five year old really is a bullying five year old. Think of the million of retards who voted for this monstrous cowardly infant and still support him despite his actions and his thousands of lies. This country has a very large population of idiots. Most of them cloak themselves in religiosity. Evangelicals are the worse. Totally phony hypocritical shitheads ... holier than thou dimbulbs.
EVILangelicals, pseudo, wanta be goody two shoes longing for a theocracy.
DeleteHucksterbee Slanders not having a good time. You can see from her face that this is a cross she's bearing, probably because she was ordered to show up.
DeleteI'm sure she's planning her revenge for the press room.
OMG What a super-delicious beat-down Michelle Wolf gave Sarah Huckabee Sanders; and, everyone else in the room.
ReplyDeleteMichelle called some people in the room liars, and nazis, and shamed all of them for profiting off the monster they launched.
Hee hee she called Ivanka a Diaper Genie: sleek on the outside and fulla shit on the inside. Torched!
Cousin Fuckerbee looked ill.
DeleteBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Laughing out loud. Cant wait to see twisted fuckerbee get a lesson in journalism and being a LIAR.
DeleteIt was stupid unfunny and pointless. They need to stop having this dinner. It hurts journalism and Democrats.
DeleteRaw 'Truth' Telling...
Deletefelicitations!
She was an equal opportunity truth-sayer.
DeleteShe called out the media for not doing their jobs.
She called out the Democrats too. How they'll find a way to lose in November despite everything that should make it a cakewalk.
She didn't hold back from anyone.
But I thinks he could have attacked Trump and the Cabinet more.
A few duds but mostly on target.
Joy Reid is an intelligent, accomplished woman. She is black. She doesn't brook any nonsense from any white man, never has.
ReplyDeleteShe doesn't have Rachel Maddow's ratings to protect her. Of course the Far Right would go after her. They know what they're doing, the same as they knew what they were doing with Al Franken. They know Democrats are fuckwits.
"Joy Reid is an intelligent, accomplished woman. She is black. She doesn't brook any nonsense from any white man, never has."
DeleteLol, what does her being black... and the mere existence of white men on earth have to do with anything?
God. The fucking racist, race division politics of the left is so totally disgusting. We are all humans.
People can come to see differently and behave differently. Monotheistic religion tends to not allow for this, as all eggs are thrown in the "worship of idol" basket, leaving the worshippers stripped of any ability to see the nature of their own self accurately.
ReplyDeleteGreat, thoughtful, self-aware piece Gryph. Thank you. It’s why I love IM - you.
ReplyDeleteThe problem with the "she was hacked" story is that the technology doesn't really add up. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/04/the-evidence-is-not-with-joy-reid/558935/
ReplyDeleteI think most people of a certain generation have changed their minds about gays/gay marriage, etc. I don't see what's so wrong about admitting that you've---ZOMG!---learned something! The whole point of any awareness campaign is to make people rethink their positions.
This could have been a great teaching moment about the importance of activism and why we should keep lifting up injustices.
Instead it's "I'm sorry, but I don't remember." Sounds like a cop out.
Here is my issue Lisa - Joy admitted to writing specific blogs which were harmful but not others. Why wouldn’t she claim all the words? The tech exists to mask ones movements in the Internet. It may not be commercially available but it exists.
DeleteBecause she can fool people like you her buy her BS story 7:26.
DeleteWhy should you admit to something you truly don't believe you did? She apologized for what she did do. Doesn't mean she should apologize for what she didn't.
DeleteIn case your readers are interested, Gryphen, there's a more honest appraisal of the Joy Reid apology over at Huffington Post, than the one you gave here.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joy-reid-hacking-scandal_us_5ae4ab77e4b055fd7fcc3ec2